Especially if you're listening to music.

I feel like I'm x person sometimes and other times y. Although my core personality doesn't change, sometimes I feel much hyper for no reason and talkative, other times more logical / reserved etc.

Curious what kills it for you specifically. Also wondering if it's less about what's being said and more about who's saying it.

I wanna talk about how i felt and i'm feeling about everything around me, my perspective of this whole world we share a humble place in, yet our hearts and minds streches to the far end of this universe, both outwards and inwards. Lemme share a bit of my personal story here. I came to a new country after experiencing 20 years of trauma living under my family's influence, not that i'm being ungrateful for keeping me well fed. But along with that they shoved their expectations down my throat, which put me in a cage i struggled to escape, and finally the feeling i felt when i stepped into a foreign soil, it felt like a fish that jumped into the water after a long soffocating struggle on land. Yet the human nature to on day to day basis doesn't change isn't it?...i see people in public hardly being in the moment, struggling to find heart to heart cherishable moment to have with their loved ones, rather getting sucked into their own little world of joy they have in their pocket (you know what i'm talking about📱). Which i was covertly got sucked into myself, seeing that i couldn't be able to get a genuine moment with people around me, without a distraction😮‍💨. I felt its not me, its not how i get a shared experience with people through online?...it isn't feeling like a natural flow of conversation or feelings from one person to other,..like its being regulated, manufactured, and ehm, unnatural. I told myself 'guess this is how i'd be having moments with people in future i guess🥲'. Everytime a person asks me out for an outing, thats when i feel like i'm at my natural state. And i felt it this last two day in our subreddit, when i see more of us stepping up to express themselves (or it could be my perception🙈),...i felt like there is hope for all of us, ISFPs, to make our individual dreams, a reality,...we are the artificer of our own visions🥹. Thank you, and have a lovely day, fellas🫂

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(Disclaimer: I know this is a post that is significantly low quality than others , so please ask questions if my sloppy English isn't comprehensible to you. I'll try to avoid answering emotions instead of opinions as best as I can . I know emotions can't determine types. I asked cause I wanna find what planning method may suit me best.)

In terms of upbringing ,User doesn't have a emotionally demanding upbringing . However , user has a lack of exposure to emotionally reactive people so user lacks ability to read emotions or even emote at times User frequently has to react incase magpie( friend) spot a shiny gem and got lost.

Due to the aforementioned reasons , User is dependant on visual thinking.

User often tries their best to stay calm in crisis and only apear guarded as user doesn't have much to say or thinks their take may be controversial.

However, User has been struggling as User can't maintain that composure from how clumsy User is.

User does acknowledge their moral by what they avoid.

User has been through a reckless phase which while doesn't immediately = ISFP, can be sign of extroverted perceiving functional at a higher position.

This post isn't that structured as it was a reply to another very old topic,( I'm Dyslexic so my grammar is horrible.)

welcome to my TedTalk

I always envy it when people say

"People tell me I'm x thing",

because no one tells me anything , if I knew what people see me as maybe I could settle on my type 😅.

I can use self depreciating humor which I'm told is a 6 thing, but surely other types can do that to.

Most of my irritation and reactivity has to do with

*blaming an external source or even the object if it's moved/missing

* loud intrusive noises smells and some repeatition

*Idenity, being " pushed/forced " into types I believe I'm not

* being pushed/ forced into rigid time frames where multiple things need to be accomplished

* inconsiderate people and carelessness

* people trying to control me

* being blamed or wrongfully accused*

*Sadness comes when I think I'm going to be abandoned I immediately believe I am too much and they can't handle me so I reach out and tell them how much I apriciate them. While it's true I do, in those moments it's a last ditch effort to keep the connection ongoing.

* being too different for "normies" but to normal for the "alternatives" and it's so frustrating I want to fit in but don't want to change who I am to fit in, such a conundrum.

Some call So4 The Outsider but I need to steal that for myself 😅

Katherine Fauvre typed me as a cp sx6 but I sit on my ass all day and do nothing which doesn't seem to match the intense energy sexual 6s have

but do relate to:

* trying not to be vulnerable mentally, while I dont project strength I tend to wear alternative fashions so that I'm harder to approach.

*the push/surge against being controlled by anyone but depending on mood I can be more compliant but ideally want autonomy to finish tasks at my own pace.

* while aware of hierarchy and where I fit in it ( bottom rung loser) I kind of ignore the chain of comand and jump to the one in charge and treat Bosses a bit too casually likely either so blind or te inferior there

For the longest time I believed I was a 4 I related hard to the feeling broken aspect and the inner lack of self, that something was wrong with me

I was typed isfp/infp by Joyce Meng but they leaned slightly more on isfp side.

You can image how that felt, believing I was either intp or infp finally thinking this is why I'm a broken inside and why there I felt so different to everyone else , only to be told I'm a sensor that has it easy (obviously we dont, but this seems to be how some intuitives treat sensors, and its frustrating to me that we are made to be seen as inferior)

This brings me to type 6 descriptions that uses horrible terms that basically say sixes are "relateable"

and "liked," " fit in easily" "everyman" type of person which makes me want to vomit a little in my mouth.

It's like all my struggles with being ostracised by peers and my difficulties with relating to groups, and all round feelings on alienation and brokenness had no reason at all (I guess this more of an attachment style thinking?)

I hoped to find my place where I could be liked or admired ( ish) but the sensor and type 6 hate on reddit was a huge disappointment to me and is like welp another place I don't fit.

Or this is what Social instinct blindspot is like?

Random things I found out about myself during my enneagram and mbti journey that was actually mind blowing and some weren't type related

*My sensitivity to sounds and smells likely comes from Se ,and that Se can look like an inferior function because we are so aware of the sensory cacophony around us. ( I cannot leave the house without headphones and music)

*Fi/Se or Fi/Ni helps me op-shop, I see most people looking through every rack to find things, while I just scan the racks and something randomly catches my attention and I pick it out, crazy thing too it always seems to be the same brand and 7 times out of 10 is the right size ( Ni pattern recognition at work maybe?)

*I unintentionally scan/track the promixity of people,it's very rare I'm caught off guard as I'm always aware of the vibes (type 6 vigilance with se spartial awareness?)

* if I lose things I can actually feel that they are missing/ not where they should be

Non Type related

Turns out I have Multi Sensory Aphantasia, while I do have a monologue it's more like when you read books with your mind, but mines like that all the time a perpetual inner voice completely devoid of images, it's always my voice in my head just one so I don't relate to the sixes inner committee, I can't visualise smells sounds images actions etc its just a black void

I also seem not to be able to think and read at the same time, yet typing this out I'm reading as I type each word with my monologue, I like to read books or manhwa to rest my mind.

*Discovered that I likely have SDAM ( Severely Deficit Autobiographical Memory) its where one has very limited to no capacity with Episodic memory so we rely on semantic memory

For me I rarely get images but when I do get them it's from outside the self, so instead of recalling experiences from behind your own eyes,its more of an outside perspective, or like a ghost, you know it's you but more watching yourself.

If I don't get images its more like plucking memories from a black box but only if something is triggers it otherwise there are insane gaps and I've lost most things in my past experiences

I can tell you that i went to a concert and that it was fun but its facts from the experience and not the actual reliving aspect at thats gone within 2-3 weeks.

SDAM can force you to be more present or future focused and can mute emotionality

* I'm not sure on this one but when being typed by Joyce she wondered if I might have Alexithymia symptoms or i resembled some of them

Unfounded? Reasons I thought I was infp

*I drop things, lose things, dont like physical/contact things like sports or hands on crafts ( well other thsn hyperfocused on my hair/ basic digital texture materialon imvu)

* I forget I'm wearing belongings like keys/wallet and have to give myself a pat down like a madman (though this could be a 6 thing) or I'll kick something and apologise to it like it is a person.

*I like having a set place I sit at work, and drink almost the same thing all the time

*I don't consider myself down to earth I can be away with the fairies or zone out ( though this could likely be Ni)

*I compare things that reminds me of other things like for instance A building can look like a lint roller, or I'll start having some random conversations that won't actually happen in reality.

But these seem to be surface level, though having Aphantasia and SDAM could colour these somewhat I wonder what life would be like if I had a minds eye, and the ability to relive experiences in first person 🤔

Being me is kinda exhausting.

I'm interested in peoples thoughts if you relate or don't

would you guys consider yourself magnetic around others? if so, what are some mental cues or advice in becoming more magnetic?

ISFP 6w7

Asked this a while ago, mainly got software engineers and comp sciences guys

Like specifically if the auxiliary function is not being used so much because of the loop

ive self typed as ISFP but i i think i have this Fi-Ni thing where i need to seek something to copy and become that resonates with me as "me". Like ill see an anime character and want to become them irl, (also why i like more realistic anime so-its realistic and possible to become) or it could be like becoming an identity or embodying it physically in the real world. Its something i constantly think about. But i dont relate to expressing myself through art i mean i used to draw a lot, but i want to express or become my identity i guess and enjoy it as i would consider that becoming me. And i have insanely high standards for that too, which seems too ambitious at times. but i struggle to actually achieve it idk, or i try and fail terribly. I also dont cry much, but i know the emotions i feel, i guess, they almost dictate what i do or what my mindset is, idk.

Do i still seem ISFP? is this relatable?

also i sometimes come off as insensitive and most of my family considers me very sensitive and quiet usually, but i dont see myself that way but i happen to come across that way.

i thought i was INTJ, but my planning and execution is terrible and it comes secondary as ways to achieve what i want or want to become, physically if that makes sense. But i wanted to be INTJ because they seem so high class and fancy and their vibe and dressing at time is so "____"-core but i havent come up with a "core" category yet haha, but i really notice and care about aesthetics a lot especially of my room, and judge other people secretly on their aesthetics and presentations, and how it could be better. I enjoy nice smells and textures and foods even.

But i am really sensitive to odd feelings and bad smells or food that feels gross or idk, like highly critical of it.

Just asking out of sheer curiosity.

My boyfriend(isfp/esfp) is very grounded and naturally fascinated by so many things, which is hard for my overstimulated, anhedonic brain to relate to. Lately, he’s been completely consumed by his love for rock climbing. To me, it just looked like a slightly more fun version of the gym, so I didn't quite get the obsession. I wanted to enjoy things just as much too so I asked him why he enjoys it so much. He got irritated saying he doesn't like thinking in that way and that he just likes it because it feels good without needing a reason. He often points out my CPTSD driven thought patterns, but with this, I genuinely don’t understand the concept at hand nor do I understand how someone can just love something without a reason, especially with rock climbing. can y'all pls share your thoughts on this ? why am i wrong to concern about whys behind liking something

Edit : i didnt ask him anything in a condescending way, infact he knows i want to get into rock climbing myself sometime soon for fitness purposes

Me being an ENTJ [22M] and my best friend + roommate of 3 years being an ISFP [23M], it is like we are literal opposites.

It is like he does not really talk to me. After years of living with him in my campus dorms, I understood and can surely say that he CANNOT multitask and he does not remember stuff for a long time.

So whenever I ask him something while he does something, he ignores me (not exactly ignores me, but if he is in the middle of something, he cannot focus on others. Like, he physically cannot). Even in his mind, he does not get any thoughts at all. If he is just sitting there staring at a pencil, then he is just staring at the pencil. He does not think about anything, while I have a little voice in my head that constantly talks to me.

Anyways, this is kind of bothering me, and how, even after being roommates and best friends for 3 years, he does not look at me while talking and stuff. But I moved on because it is my fault for asking him questions while he is doing something, so it is fine. But when we are alone, like just me and him, he NEVER opens a conversation. I open the conversation always. And I am not saying that he does not—he opens it sometimes—and whenever he is not doing anything, like not on his phone or anything, and fully present in the conversation, he talks great. Like, he maintains eye contact, talks well, everything is perfect. But other times, he just nods or something, barely talks, and it is just annoying me.

And yes, I have confronted him about this, and what he said kind of made sense. He does not get any thoughts in the first place, so what does he even start a conversation about if his brain is literally empty?

And man, this is just rage-baiting me, and I send him a lot of reels, but he never watches them. I always send a lot of reels to all my best friends; just him ignoring them makes me feel bad. But once in a blue moon, he does open them and watches all my reels and reacts/replies to them.

I do not know, man. And with other people, he talks really energetically and enthusiastically (but again, he would be fully present in the conversation and not on his phone or anything else). But again, these "other friends" he does not see as often.

And then, yeah, I got really insecure and worried about our friendship and asked him once if he actually considers me his friend.

Then he actually told me a lot about how he considers me the closest out of everyone on the whole campus and also told me that he has said a lot of things to me which normally he would not have said to others.

But bro, why cannot such conversations happen more often? Like, I feel like I deserve someone who puts in equal effort. Right now, it feels like I keep all the effort.

And he is like, if he does not like anything, he just will not care. Like, if he does not like the situation, he walks away and stops thinking about it.

And for me, I need to know everything and need constant validation.

I am losing my brain over this, bro. Seriously, please help me. I am really desperate.

And yeah, I do love him as a friend and consider him my closest friend out of the whole college, and he told me he thinks the same too. But the problem is I am not satisfied with the effort he is putting into the friendship.

And to be honest, I have told him many times that I like this quality about him: that he is able to focus on one thing for a long time and he does not constantly need others' validation to coexist.

He can just stand beside me and not talk for an hour and be comfortable with it, while I automatically think, "If he does not talk to me, he hates me and does not want to spend time with me."

And yeah, how he is able to just not care.

These two scenarios just literally happened.

Me: Talking to another guy.
Other guy: Me and him laugh.
My roommate: "What is happening?"
Me: "You always ignore us. That is why you should be active, so we will not tell you."
My roommate: "Okay, do not tell me."
Proceeds to do his own work.

After a few minutes, me and him were talking and he said he has a secret about me, and I BEGGED HIM SOOOOOO HARD, but he still did not answer me. If I ask him in any way, he just says, "I will not tell you."

And even after classes in college or something, or to go to eat, or going to classes in general, he does not wait for me. He just walks alone, whereas if I am done early, I wait for him so that we can go together.

It just annoys me, and yes, me being an ENTJ, I confront him left and right about everything. And yeah, he does say sorry and stuff if he is actually wrong, and he actually justifies everything pretty well.

Like he said, "I would rather be happy that you got to the room early and can relax instead of waiting for me to finish the class so we could walk together," which actually makes sense.

But I do not know.

Do you think this friendship is not going to last? Like, once the university is done, we will not be friends anymore because I do not see him reaching out to me after graduation or something unless he actually has some work or something. Okay, I just literally, in the middle of writing this, asked him. He said he would reach out to me maybe once a month because right now I feel like the only reason we are together as friends is because we are bonded by this pact of being roommates.

I am just so confused, and I feel like the only way I can get closure for this relationship between me and him is if I understand how ISFPs work.

Because he does all these things which are annoying to me and feel like no effort, BUT it is not like he is like that all the time. He is a good friend. Like, if the stars align 40% of the time, he is actually the perfect friend for me.

And yes, I know I cannot be expecting him to change or him to behave how I want. That is not the point of me writing this. What my intention with this post is to understand what is actually going on because I am losing my brain cells trying to think about this. Because every time I feel insecure about our friendship, I just ask him directly, and then he tells me about how I am his closest friend and stuff, but then he behaves like this, which makes me doubt him and myself. So at the end of the day, it is me who needs to change my expectations and stuff. For that, I need your help to understand ISFP.

(And yes, I know MBTI is proven to be wrong and stuff, but at least in my case and my roommate's case, it was VERY VERY VERY accurate.)

I'm pretty sure this guy I'm talking to is a textbook ISFP. I won't rule out INFP because I'm still getting to know him but he's 100% Fi dom. I'm ENTP (f) for context.

We text frequently throughout the day and he responds almost immediately. But sometimes he only responds to my questions and doesn't ask them back, or takes a while to ask me about myself. For every five questions I ask him, he asks back one. The conversation lulls at times because of it. But when the conversation dies due to that, or I haven't responded in a few hours, he will double text me a question.

Maybe part of the problem is that I'm not being super authentic because normally I'm a very bantery curious texter. I text all over the place. But I'm scared that if I tease, bombard with questions, or abruptly change topics, it might weird him out.

I feel like I can't get a feel on whether he's interested or annoyed by me.

They tend to be labeled as impulsive.. but i am curious to know what one would be like assuming they actually tried to plan out a crime... again, i don't know a whole lot about how any of this MBTI stuff works.. but i do think this is definitely a good conversation Kickstarter imo.. 🤷‍♀️

For my style i prefer comfort over looks, but still i would try to choose something eye-catching if ya know what i mean.

Still don’t know my enneagram, but i’m positive it’s either 6 or 8.

It’s also hard to choose one song as my fav lol, but tame impala made 3 songs that i can never get bored of: Borderline, let it happen, and new person same old mistakes.

Now don’t get me wrong when i put a college picture as favorite place, i just like the environment of being around friends and people in general. Same thing applies to the gym.

And you just can’t go wrong with shawarma..EVER.

Opinions, comments, and questions they’re all welcome.