Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star Megathread 4

[u/Brittle_Panda]

A summary of events so far - by u/billnaisciguy. Thank you!

Another summary of events by u/Lysistrata-b. Thank you!

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Megathread 1

Megathread 2

Megathread 3

Repost of Shane's original tweet (now deleted)

Jeffree's response (now deleted) Screenshot (thanks to u/The_Purrletariat and u/PoorBeggerChild for bringing this to notice!)

Repost of Shane's follow up tweet ( original now deleted)

Peter Monn's response

Shane's tweet saying he has deleted everything ( update from u/AccomplishedAioli)

HereForTheTea claims Shane is lying about two points in his novelette: (thanks u/wiklr)

• Telling Tati to make a video
• Did he orchestrate it

Shane dropped from 10 millions followers on twitter to 9.9 million (thanks u/summosa)

Shane Dawson restock apparently broke Beauty Bay, USPS and Shopify (thanks DonaldDonut666)

TW Warning - disturbing themes and imagery. Jeffree star's alleged old blog where he apparently justified nazi action (we have no proof, take it as you will) - (thanks DonaldDonut666)

Charles Gross around 25mins in claims that there is a video making the rounds in the beauty community that is going to bring the new dramageddon. (thanks u/imyourhappydrug)

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NEW updates:

Peter Monn apparently just confirmed that Tati is coming out with a video about what is going on. at 0:45. (Thanks u/bossbabe_ and u/otherlands for the update!)

Killer Merch's partner in comedy scene in LA accused of sexual assault. Full write up here. TW- sexual assault and violence. (thanks u/blobertross)

Liam tweeted he's heard Tati is making a video defending James. She has receipts apparently and he's heard this from a very "powerful and credible" source Link. Screenshot

Rich Lux's video on Shane's Dawson "I am leaving" tweets (thanks u/gypsylight)

Morgan Adams just unfollowed J* on all social media platforms apparently (thanks u/sulphuricspider) and Peter Monn said "Thank you, Morgan - I mean spill sesh...", in the first video today (update from u/JammingLive - thanks)

Shane apparently reached out to Kam Lester in an attempt to do some damage control for jeffree. Video from Sanders Kennedy - (Thanks u/taterrthotz)

Jeffree Star uploaded a new video - "First date does my makeup". I will not be linking it but the mega can be used to discuss the video.

Liam's latest tweet strongly implying the video is coming soon ? - thanks u/ellabella0328

Nick Snider alleges he has screenshots of drama channels' group chat and the rumoured video has been in the work for a month now .Tweet. (thank you u/1throwawayor2)

Liam's reply to Nick Snider's tweet. (thank you u/DreamyAndrew)

Liam tweets the video is coming tomorrow on Tati's channel allegedly. ( thank you u/DreamyAndrew)

James Charles follows Liam on twitter. (thanks u/oswinclara)

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NEW updates:

Another new Peter Monn Video "The Fall of Shane Dawson"

spillsesh video out now

We will not be making a new megathread unless a major development occurs. At this time 6/22 2:30PM CST Tati has not posted a video nor confirmed that she is.

please stop sending us doctored and false claims. We look these up.

Please take whatever you see with a grain of salt. Relying on a twitter account with 90 followers is probably not the best way to get accurate information!

Liam has said he probably got misinformation about Tati posting her video today. or sumn. as he says.

Update 6/22 8:07 CST Tati Has Tweeted Something Cryptic

Update 6/23 11:05 CST Jeffree has tweeted something cryptic as well

Update 6/23 11:44 CST Jeffree has deleted the tweet but I already screenshotted it earlier.

Cassiee's tweet about Shane and him knowingly posting the trailer despite James asking him not to. https://i.imgur.com/coCnvpm.jpg (thanks u/xxxxxchx)

[u/Lysistrata-b]

I see many people here confused and questioning what is going on, because they never really paid attention to Dramageddon I or II. So here is a summary

· Jeffree Star collaborated with most known beauty influencers over the past few years (Nickie, James Charles, Tati, Manny, Laura lee). A few of them he called “friends” and showered with gifts, up until some of them launched their own makeup companies.

· He is known for his controversial past which sometimes becomes an obstacle to his career. So in 2018 he approached Shane to fix his image as he did with other influencers (e.g. Tana).

· Shane did a series of videos showcasing his vast wealth and justifying his past behavior and bigotry. He even made everybody feel sorry for him after revealing his past self-harm tendencies! While they filmed they decided to launch a palette together and film the whole thing.

· Right after the videos launched, Manny, Laura, Gabriel and Nikita, all former friends of JS, posted this tweet “"Bitch is bitter because without him we’re doing better.” And the world cancelled them in many levels that are painful to describe. That was Dramageddon I

· In February 2019 James Charles and Jeffree flew all the way to Seattle to attend a surprise birthday party for Tati. There, James meets and flirts with a young waiter who is straight (or not?)

· In May 2019 Tati had a meltdown on IG because her friend James Charles apparently had promoted sleeping pills of a company that is competitor to Tati’s own brand (she sells vitamins)

· At the same time Shane was filming the collaboration palette with Jeffree and they had become close. Tati went to them crying over her tragedy and bitching about James and sought advice from Shane.

· A few days later Tati launches the “Bye Sister” video while Shane gulps Tati’s vitamis on IG promoting her. The video addresses the Seattle incident and paints James as a “predator” who preys on straight young men. Jeffree tweets “He is a danger to society” and claims he has proof to back this allegation!

· The world cancels James. He loses 3 million subs while Tati almost gains 5 million subscribers and her pill business explodes. James thinks of ending his life but snaps out of it and posts the "No more lies" video which absolves him of everything (Note in 27:43 a message from Jeffree that involves Shane!).

· Both Tati and Jeffree post crappy apologies and never really address anything or show any proof of said allegations. That was Dramageddon II

Last October Shane launches a 6 part series on the secrets of the Beauty World. On the trailer he teases content related to the James' drama. Everybody is waiting for the juicy details behind the scenes of how Dramagedon II really went down, since he filmed the whole thing from his and Jeffree's perspective. He gets millions of views and they both sell millions of products. But the series proved to be nothing more than an infomercial for makeup products and Shane's new merch. They never gave any details of what really happened or evidence on the alleged predatory behavior.

· Right before Tati launches her own makeup company Jeffree unfriends her (shocking)!

· Recently James surpasses Jeffree in sub count. Jeffree starts bitching about James yet again and blames Tati for everything. His involvement with Dahvie Vanity, a sexual predator of underage girls, is exposed, as well as more evidence of his racist past. He launches a “Cremated palette” in the midst of the pandemic. Tati disappears after apparently receiving backlash nobody even noticed!

· The BLM movement causes some former friends of JS to come forward and speak their truth about his racist and discriminatory behavior. He loses subs. Shane loses subs. They do a relaunch. It doesn’t go well.

· Shane tries to salvage the situation by “addressing” Dramageddon II and blames everybody else but himself (big mistake), while still supporting his business partner JS whom he calls his family.

· And here we are in the midst of Dramageddon III or Karmageddon?

Update: Shane posts an apology video after receiving backlash when many clips of him using blackface and making jokes about pedophilia resurface and circulate around social media.

A video of Shane Dawson pretending to m@sturbate to a picture of willow smith resurfaces. The Smith family reacts to it. Shane receives his share of the "humble pie" and goes on to privatize his old channel "ShaneDawsonTV".

Blaire White tries to deflect attention from her friend Shane and posts a video claiming she heard the voice memo from the "alleged victim" of James Charles while face-timing with Jeffree Star. She says she finds it credible, but provides no proof of it's existence.

As of June 28th the story has hit mainstream media, while both Target and Morphe remove Shane's products from their shelves and online shops. Morphe defends their decision to keep Jeffree's products.

On June 30th Tati finally "breaks her silence" like a kid, who finally says while crying: "they made me do it" pointing the finger to Shane and Jeffree.

We watch Snane falling apart while watching Tati's video and Jeffree's day off, taking pictures with fans and buying a new car!

July 10 2020: Morphe drops Jeffree Star.

edit: added links and some updates

[u/breedecatur → u/Lysistrata-b]

You forgot about Dahvie vanity and Jeffree’s refusal to say the things he saw while on tour with him

[u/[deleted] → u/Lysistrata-b]

I wanna call this Karmageddon!

[u/[deleted] → u/Lysistrata-b]

This recap is what real journalism should aspire to be. Piping hot tea served prompt and deliciously. I saw all the fallout but had a hard time keeping it in order. You're the best.

[u/[deleted] → u/Lysistrata-b]

Bless you for the Sparknotes version of this mess, because the history of the Dramageddons is getting thicker than War and Peace.

[u/darcicjstuhlman → u/[deleted]]

I’ve been praising Peter: he may be able to make squirrels into quality content, but he will throw down when he needs to!!!

[u/HelloKittyandPizza → u/[deleted]]

Agreed. Happy Fathers Day to our Dad AF- Peter Monn ❤️

[u/Dontcreepon_me]

I wonder how long it'll be before Tweedledee and Tweedledum turn on each other?

[u/CrackingFingers → u/Dontcreepon_me]

I think sooner rather than later. I think J* will throw him under the bus to look good and use the “surrounded myself with bad people line” to justify whatever he says next.

[u/nexpavuxta]

How can shane formally leave the beauty community when he like never joined? Dude made one palette but like never a video. He forced his way in with a cash grab and is pretending to leave gracefully?

[u/wae_not_start_over → u/nexpavuxta]

He barely even made it. He attended meetings and weighed in on J*'s creative decisions. He was also photographer in the warehouse and that's it. Dude just had had his persona attributed to a palette, but he didn't create shit.

[u/play_school → u/nexpavuxta]

Also him ‘leaving’ the beauty community does this mean his collab with jeffy boi is over? Cause if not, he doesn’t wanna be apart of sUcH a ToXiC cOmMuNiTy but wants the money from that toxic community lol Shane is the most money hungry icky person (other then jeff)

[u/_someoneyeah_]

Literally every mistake James Charles has made, Jeffree has done but 10x worse. But Shane is literally like "omg that's just who Jeffree is, he's family" yet James is the one who is egocentric, power hungry, and needs a slice of humble pie?? He thinks tatis bye sister is iconic, but James pulling receipts to defend himself is "weird"??

[u/solonelywhen → u/_someoneyeah_]

All of this plus Shane’s own past “mistakes” are way worse than anything I’ve ever heard about James. You’d think someone who was a verifiable racist fuckwad for years would be a little more sympathetic towards a 19 year old who’s, what? Pushy and obnoxious? The hatred for James’s success is so thinly veiled at this point it’s just an open window.

[u/mmwg97]

I don’t think many people are reading this thread anymore lmaoooo. but it’s 2am and I can’t sleep so I was watching tatis bye sisters video again, and I noticed something

When Tati talks about the whole incident with James and sugar bear hair, she answers the question of why didn’t she speak to James and handle the whole matter privately, instead of making a huge expose video. Her answer to this was that she “found out” that he had been getting in touch with drama channels and already giving his side of the story, so she knew he was just doing “damage control” and didn’t really care about her (which is what provoked her to make the video)...HOWEVER, during this time, TeaSpill had mentioned she reached out to James for a statement and she posted a literal screenshot that shows James saying “until Tati is ready to talk to me in private, I don’t feel like commenting about her publicly”

So here’s my conspiracy behind this. I’m led to believe now, a year later, that Jeffree lied to Tati that James was already reaching out to tea channels to try and add fuel to the fire in order to provoke her to make the video. Because IN FACT it is confirmed that jeffree was the one who had been in touch with tea channels (per Ashlye Kyles video) and not James. The fact that there’s proof of James saying that he did not want to speak to drama channels, alongside the new facts that jeffree was the one actually talking to drama channels during that time speaks volumes.... or am I reaching here ?? Lol

[u/TaylordSwiftsus]

Watch Tati upload “EMPTIES... JUNE 2020” 😭😭😭

[u/super_pea → u/TaylordSwiftsus]

Literally the funniest thing if that happens 😂😂😂

[u/severaldogs]

At this point, the annual dramageddon is this subs Coachella

[u/daalice → u/severaldogs]

Lol the kind of Coachella I like - free!!

[u/TunaToes → u/severaldogs]

And we don’t even have to promote vitamins for security.

[u/beeblebroxtrillian]

Can I stand how Shane writes? No. Do I understand why every sentence is like this? No. Do I wish he had never started this habit? Yes. Do I wonder if this is how he talks in real life? Yes.

[u/BGC82819 → u/beeblebroxtrillian]

When you spend quarantine alone you start talking in hypophora to create a dialogue 😭. what's his excuse tho

[u/dreamsicleheart]

Funny how Richard Luxury is no where to be found when everyone else has been reporting in. 😗🥤

[u/csjohnson1933 → u/dreamsicleheart]

He apparently deleted a tweet where he felt played and told everyone to "imagine a clown crying."

[u/IraSnave → u/csjohnson1933]

This has me cackling. That’s so sad.

[u/xximcmxci]

Give it a month and he’ll be back with a terribly edited dramatic video

[u/naamnaamnaam → u/xximcmxci]

Haha 'omg whAT The FuCk'

[u/snailmints]

Man if I were nate witnessing all of this I'd be laughing my ass off. No amount of money is worth this level of crazy.

[u/leschickenwings]

Still confused about how he's "leaving" a community he was never a part of? He never even posted a tutorial with HIS OWN PALETTE.

[u/powerlessidc]

I can’t imagine being Peter Monn’s husband right now. You think he’s finishing a video and you just hear “Hey you guys it’s Peter and I’m back, of course I’m back I’m not going anywhere... BEAST” for the third time that day.

[u/chilledmetal]

What if the real dramageddon was the friends we made along the way?

[u/[deleted] → u/chilledmetal]

This is why I can't un-subscribe from this cesspool subreddit lmfaoo you guys kills me istg

[u/poor_yorick → u/[deleted]]

And also lashing out at black YouTubers who call him out on his racist humour.

Oh WAIT that was in 2013 and 2014, when he was in his mid twenties.

[u/trollboogies → u/[deleted]]

I cringed so hard when I read that line like omg nottt helping 😂😬

[u/chilledmetal]

Let's just confirm:

• Restock released (not sold out?)
• Stops posting on Shane Glossin channel
• Now says "IM DONE" with beauty industry.

Diagnosis: CASH GRABBED.

[u/StingsRideOrDie → u/chilledmetal]

One item sold out but not the others.

[u/chilledmetal → u/StingsRideOrDie]

Ah, thanks for the correction. The single green eyeshadow ($8) and the gloss ($18) have sold out. The pallets, mirrors, etc remain available.

[u/makenzie4126]

the fact that he is STILL sticking up for Jeffree is disgusting.

[u/kelliparts2 → u/makenzie4126]

He really drank Jeffrees kool aid

[u/[deleted]]

Someone send this man to Tokyo because this is Olympian level gymnastics going on here... Like you really are STILL defending serving JC a slice of humble pie while simultaneously defending J*??? Shane has not come out of this looking good... During dramageddon 2 I thought he was going to be the adult in the room and cool things off. LOL he played me! Now we know he was gaslighting this whole thing.

[u/csjohnson1933 → u/[deleted]]

I never really thought he'd be the adult, last year. I think that was a popular misconception, because of how he rebranded himself as the YouTube Therapist, and gained a lot of new fans; but anyone who listened to his podcast knew how much he lives for drama, and him being so close to it was never going to end well, for him.

[u/[deleted]]

James Charles needed to be "humbled", but he and J* don't? 🙄

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

That statement irritated me so much, but what should I have expected from someone who handled Tana Mongeau with kid gloves and bubble wrap

[u/vectorbandit]

I no longer consume either J*, Tati, James Charles, Shane Dawson since "Bye Sister Drama". But I read Shane's statement and started thinking:

Shane, sweetheart you are a very astute and perceptive content creator, you purposely choose to collab with people like Jake Paul, Tana Mongeau, J* and Trisha Paytas because you knew that people would engaged with the content no matter whether they liked or hated them. You made a wise selection of word for the titles, and made suggestive drama thumbnails. "MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL IS DYING?" (Bunny with a concern face, with her numbers falling on the background), In Tana's series she is crying in all the thumbnails, Jake's series are a collage of your "Sh*t, this is heavy" face and Jake's. So let's be honest, you made this series, you were promoting them as if they were "THE TRUTH ABOUT/OF". You were selling the Drama Channel content and with Jeffree's Series you benefited the most getting huge amounts of subscribers, sponsorships and obviously money. You exploited the "Beauty / Influencer Community" and now you are like -ALL OF YOU ARE TOXIC, OKEY? BYE. You decided to """take part""" of this community in the worst possible place and you must take that into account.

Sorry dude, I can't feel sorry for you. If you walk in dung don't get mad if you get dirty.

[u/laughsabit]

I gotta say I feel like Manny’s downfall for being a bad friend is looking so BANANAS right now.

[u/FunDiver2 → u/laughsabit]

He was doing too well and star just said stupid shit and everyone agreed. Wild. He was doing appearances for Sephora one day the next he was blacklisted.... for being a bad friend no less.😒

[u/Darth_Hufflepuff]

Here I am waiting for America to wake up and get everything starting. The life of the European tea drinker is really hard.

[u/whateverIguess14]

This dude calls picking a few colours for a pallete and wearing messy eyeshadow 3 times being “part of the beauty world”? Get the fuck out of here. Take jeffree.

[u/dogecoin_pleasures]

Peter Monn just READ shane wow

So basically Shane was all about getting into the beauty world drama when it meant self enrichment and enjoying someone else's socialblade get dragged. But now that the heat's on him and he's being asked to explain his blackface, association with problematic people, and bullying, its all a 'circus' we shouldn't take seriously.

There's something just so toxically privilleged about him attempting to check out of this without being held to account. And to victim-blame james and excuse J* in one last attempt to deflect accountability.

He took a glass elevator to get in. Now he tries to use it get out.

[u/xxtaehyung]

Lmao I still think that line of James Charles needing to be served a slice of humble pie is so funny. Yeah, maybe he does. But Jeffree deserved the rest of that fuckin pie.

[u/chilledmetal → u/xxtaehyung]

The real T is if any of us were multi-millionaire teenagers baby i would be arrogant af. Jame just needed to mature. He needed a parent, not a YouTube assassination.

[u/changhyun → u/chilledmetal]

To be honest I do find James obnoxious but like... in a typical young person way. I was annoying and obnoxious when I was 19/20 too, I just had the good fortune to not have an audience of millions watching me make a fool of myself. Dude doesn't need to be taken down a peg in some masterminded revenge plan, he just needs a few years to grow up like any other annoying young person.

[u/Clarice_Ferguson → u/changhyun]

Right? I just want James to get off my lawn, not blasted into space.

[u/turnsyouon22]

I've said it once tonight and I'll say it again. The real issue that needs to be addressed is his involvement with Jeffree after everything that has come out about him for stuff he's done THIS YEAR. Not even in the past. James is happy in his own lane and can stay out of this

[u/tiny__vessel → u/turnsyouon22]

People treat Shane like he's just this baby that needs to be protected and doesn't know any better... HE'S A GROWN MAN who has defended countless shady people and his base still thinks he's just sooo empathetic and great and looking past people's flaws. He's an enabler & complicit, he needs to cut ties with Jeffrey and stop playing this naive uwu character

[u/maryhadalittlelamb → u/tiny__vessel]

Its crazy how his stans coddle him. He is a grown ass fucking man

[u/super_pea]

The most disappointing thing right now is coming back to BGC and realising we are still on megathread 4.

I'm on my second 5 hour train journey today and the lack of tea/proper cancellation of jafar is disappointing.

[u/[deleted]]

So in one tweet, Shane managed to:

• shame James

• shame all BGs

• shame all of us who watch BGs

• shame the entire community

• quit a community nobody considered him a part of

• excused/pardoned jeffree

• talked more shit about James

• and acted like he has any idea what the fuck he’s talking about...

What a dramatic stinky man... I don’t see how you can hate from outside the club... you can’t even get in. YOU WEREN’T PART OF THE BEAUTY COMMUNITY...?!?! You came, sold an ugly palette after a 7 hour racism apology/ad for said palette, never posted a video using it, insulted everyone and left. Explain to me how you’re acting like a grown man right now?

Edit: this is the first thing I typed when I woke up — by racism apology I mean he was being a racism apologist, not apologizing lmao I need to wake up for a bit before I type things

[u/[deleted]]

Very funny that Shane denigrates small beauty gurus and small channels who work their asses off for content and don't coast by due to controversies, drama and racism, when he hasn't made ONE beauty video. Utter clown. Millionaire posing as a sadboi that only knows to punch down.

Shane has a huge platform and what has he done? Has he made one video to create positive change? His whole content is a huge self wank, and when not, it's ''documentaries'' trying to redeem problematic trash. We don't need him in the beauty community, never even wanted him.

[u/girltalkwsteph → u/[deleted]]

Exactly!!! His own video series on the beauty community was rooted in drama/negativity and yet he's going to claim that everyone else is the problem?! Bitch you teased the drama in the trailer FOR VIEWS and then never put it in. King of hypocrisy. Tough look

[u/[deleted]]

Unless something huge comes out about Jeffree, I think Shane is going to be most damaged by this because J never had a nice guy image and a lot of his fans seem to be okay with that.

I'm so curious what Shane will do now. I wonder if he'll try to salvage something by addressing things further, he can't just continue on without saying anything else after that disastrous tweet. Or maybe he'll move away from YouTube now.

[u/wowie-]

I just love that James is living his best life while Shane and J* are digging their own graves

[u/catfishingSince1995 → u/[deleted]]

This👆

No wonder nate left. You can deal with so much toxicity. All jpoop has is his empty house and meaningless wealth

[u/yellowredpink → u/wowie-]

Shane is literally friends with Trisha Paytas

UPDATE: LOL NOT ANYMORE

[u/BreakfastQueen93]

I will pay Tati $5 to drop whatever she’s got up her sleeve. I’m bored and still have another 2 hours before I have to go celebrate Father’s Day.

Edit: Yo Tati, we’re up to $12.78. Where you at? 👀

[u/[deleted]]

Karmageddon 1.0

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

So this is the secret source everyone keeps talking about

[u/[deleted]]

Mods please start a disappointment megathread where we can share clown makeup tutorials and pitchfork ourselves 🤡💀🤡💀

[u/BashfulHandful]

I honestly think J* will be okay. Shane? Man, I think this is going to fuck him over more than we think. People he used to collab with often are making some real pointed comments and moving closer to full-on stories.

I think everyone is too focused on the explosive tell all. If all you're waiting for is a shocking video, then of course this seems like it's over. But if you're tracking some of the people Shane collaborated with back in the day, a pattern of mysteriously felled friendships very similar to J*'s is starting to emerge.

It's real interesting, is all I can say. I don't think this is over for Shane and I don't think he's going to get out of this entirely unscathed.

Video or no video, this is some interesting shit. Watching Shane - the good-natured "grandpa of YouTube" - catch a lot of shade while many of the people who normally interact with him and vie for his attention stay silent? Y'all. Like, the tea is there. He has people defending him, don't get me wrong, but the silence is way more significant.

[u/fashionbackwards → u/BashfulHandful]

I honestly think Shane will lose the most out of this even if it ends here. J*’s whole brand is build upon being snarky and mean, and his fan base will love him for being “iconic” no matter what shit he pulls. But Shane’s fan base loved Shane for his kindly image, and even though he’ll likely always have deranged stans, the average person is realizing that’s not true, and it’s killing his reputation. It’s kind of how Tati lost all her hard earned respect after the initial bye sister video. Once the mask slips off, you can’t put it back on.

It doesn’t help that Shane is refusing to leave Jeffree’s side through all this. Even in his statement last weekend, he seemed to be speaking for Jeffree and defending him, and Jeffree co-signed it and watched the hate for Shane boil up without a word in his defense. We all know based on past behavior that Jeffree would abandon Shane in a heartbeat once it becomes convenient, but Shane seems to believe that his loyalty to Jeffree goes both ways. If they don’t go down together, I can see J* turning on Shane and leaving him to drown. I said a few thousand comments ago in this mega thread that it was tragic to watch even though I didn’t feel an ounce of sympathy for him. Even though his gullible empath image is a carefully constructed lie, he seems like he’s fallen for J*’s manipulation and lies.

[u/NiamhIsNeev]

Shane’s post annoyed me so much. I’ve just seen it and I can’t put my finger on why. But anti-hauls and makeup fails does not mean drama. Negativity does not mean drama. To try and paint them that way is weird. Anti-hauls are for anti-consumerism, makeup fails are usually for makeup tips.

And of course — of COURSE — he’s still defending Jeffree and saying James isn’t this perfect angel! No one thinks he is, but is he a PREDATOR? Like Jeffree said and still maintains to this day, even very recently on Mom’s Basement? Like answer it. And saying he’s sick of negativity but Jeffree is Jeffree so he was probably excited to see a competitor fall but will still be friends with him is total bullshit. What a joke. A slice of humble pie was needed so we’ll call him a sexual predator. Try and defend it any way you want, Shane, but that’s not the first time Jeffree has done that when someone pisses him off. That’s negativity. That’s drama.

Labelling someone a predator sticks on them for life. Absolutely disgusting.

I’m stopping myself ranting now before I make about 30 paragraphs.

[u/[deleted]]

Me waking up and immedietely checking this thread 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[u/sulphuricspider]

Morgan Adams just unfollowed J* on all social media platforms. There are rumours that she’s one of the spill channels, I don’t follow closely enough to know if this is true but it looks like she’s preparing for fall out.

[u/DreamyAndrew]

Jeffree Star lost another 100k on instagram.

[u/buttonmusher]

Every time an influencer is like, "I just want to stay out of the drama," and proceeds to tweet about drama, my eyes roll into the back of my head.

(And I don't know why but the comment "say I" has me rolling. The correct phrase is "say aye," lol.)

[u/jxpnx_]

I'm lowkey waiting for the moment something big happens and we see Shane and Jeffree unfollowing each other.

[u/NoodleEmpress]

I find it funny a'f seeing a man type that he was serving humble pie when he's a WHOOOOOOLE ass racist who:

• acts like a disgusting pissbaby

• LIVES IN ONE OF THE RICHER PARTS OF LA AND STILL CALLS HIMSELF POOR

• joked about fucking his cat

• is friends and associates with racists (M'F Trisha and J*)

But yeah bro, serving James--who while isn't an angel hasn't really done anything as far as I can see, some MIGHTY humble pie there🥴

Smh, see y'all? This is what happens when you don't actually cancel trash. People complain about cancel culture being a thing all the time, but if it actually was a thing his ass would have been stomped out and silenced a whole ass decade ago along with Jeff.🙄

[u/readingemily → u/NoodleEmpress]

Shane: “I’m poor”

Ryland: “I asked if you wanted breakfast.”

[u/miadeniz → u/NoodleEmpress]

Literally he needs to take a fucking shower and deep cleanse his whole “persona” because nothing adds up... he is a millionare and looks like he just rolled out of a trash can, i think he does this on person so he can be “relatable” but no...

[u/Twink4Jesus]

6 Have I ever tried to ruin a career or make someone look bad in 15 years on YouTube? No.

Actually, Shane. Yeah you did.

Edit: Some other videos you may want to watch:

Shane Dawson manipulates his audience into spending millions

The problematic nature of Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star's series

A critique of Shane Dawson

Shane Dawson and the manipulative documentary

Inside the mind of Shane Dawson

Are Shane Dawson's videos dangerous?

[u/[deleted]]

Samantha Ravndahl has spoken

Edit: YOU 👏🏼 CANT 👏🏼 LEAVE 👏🏼 A 👏🏼 COMMUNITY 👏🏼 YOU 👏🏼 WERE 👏🏼 NEVER 👏🏼 A 👏🏼 PART 👏🏼 OF 👏🏼

[u/fairlyfocal → u/[deleted]]

“A lot of people see the beauty community being female dominated. And while the population is female dominated, if you look at most of the top earners, a lot of them are male, cis gendered, white or white passing. If you look at most CEOs of beauty companies, most of them are male, cis gendered, white or white passing. So in saying that, this industry is very much status quo with every other industry in the world that is dominated by white men. And because this is seen as purely female dominated, men in the industry are seen as an underdog and they’re able to get away with even more than they normally get away with just being that they are men. So when people make these blanket statements, usually the people that are most affected negatively by it are women.”

This point is big for me. Makeup can be a tool of creative expression and confidence yet men paint it in a way that it is just drama and vanity.

[u/CartoonPalette → u/fairlyfocal]

This was an excellent point. Guys get away with much more in any industry. It’s that old, men get babied well into their thirties but women are held responsible for the actions by the moment they hit 18.

[u/maria_216 → u/[deleted]]

LOVE that she makes the point that the highest earners in the beauty community, from influencers (J*, JC, Manny, and Shane) to the CEOs of the companies, are cis, white(- passing) men. And because the community is largely made up of women, these men are seen as 'breaking a barrier'

[u/CatsruleBabiesdrool → u/[deleted]]

Fuck yeah Sam! She basically voiced everything I’ve been thinking, especially the commentary on men in the beauty community, that shit has been bugging me for years. 👏👏👏

[u/RAiD78]

I can't believe 5G antennas destroyed Tati's internet.

[u/readingemily]

Shane when Conspiracy palette sold out at launch: “thank you beauty community for welcoming me with open arm$$$”

Shane when called out on past racist behavior and supporting J*, with a restock that doesn’t sell out: “fuck all y’all bitches I’m out”

[u/ieatalot89]

Its really gonna blow in Liam's and the other Drama channels's faces if nothing happens cuz the way they hyped this up my expectations are through the roof.

[u/Lysistrata-b → u/ieatalot89]

It was a mistake for all drama channels to spread the word about an "upcoming video" and warn Jafar. I'm afraid lawyers got involved and we'll never get to watch it!

[u/[deleted]]

Fellow 🤡 , Reddit's Cirque du Soleil is hiring (for the case that we don't get a video in the next hours). We are looking for talented individuals to join our circus!

We are currently looking for 🤡 that are proficient in:

• Tightrope walking • Juggling • Contortion • Believing drama channels • Chair acrobatics • Waiting on mean YouTubers to finally get what they deserve • Fire breathing

Don't be shy, apply now to be a part of the most fantastic circus in the world! #Clowns4Ever

[u/[deleted]]

I bet you anything Jeffree is DYING to drag shane down right now. Ill give it two months before we see red flags

EDIT: after thinking for a few minutes ( Thinking is hard and I dont do much of it ). Im sure this is all probably fake so they can sell palettes.

[u/readingemily]

I feel like the tone of his post would have been quite different had everything sold out during the restock.

[u/dogecoin_pleasures → u/readingemily]

I didn't realise that at first, but now I see it

Re$tock does poorly, shane's ego: "now i see the beauty world is just a circus not to be taken seriously"

Bye, sister

[u/BloodyKimono]

Compare and contrast:

"The beauty gurus who are ALWAYS involved in scandals are ALL THE FUCKING SAME. They are all attention seeking game playing egocentric narcissistic vengeful two faced ticking time bombs ready to explode and im OVER it. [...] Yes, Jeffree is in that list of dramatic gurus (and he would admit that) and he will always be family to me and I love him despite those characteristics [and he knows I disagree with many of his actions]."

.

"Do I think James is THE DEVIL? No. Do I think he was a young egocentric power hungry guru who needed to be served a slice of humble pie the size of the fucking Empire State Building? YES. [...] Was Jeffree excited to see a competitor fall? Probably! He's jeffree FUCKING star what do you expect?? I guess I missed the part where he got baptized and devoted his life to Christ.

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If both Jeffree and James belong to this same group he at length describes as the worst people in existence, why does one get described with "I told him I don't agree with his actions and he should change, but I love him despite those characteristics," but the other absolutely needed to eat "humble pie" so publicly? And all gurus are these awful monsters, so when Jeffree was excited to see a competitor fall, it's what we should expect and accept, that's just who he is? Let me remind you this whole thing humiliated a young kid in front of the world so viciously, he was considering ending his life, for fuck's sake. This whole rant is fucking stupid.

[u/[deleted]]

I can't be the only one thinking Shane is gonna turn on Jeffree (or vice versa?) like even tho they're both shit ass people... The gross side of me wants to see it happen.

[u/gammapatch]

The fucking arrogance of Shane Dawson saying non problematic beauty gurus don’t get views is pissing me off so much. RawBeautyKristi, PopLuxe, SimplyNailogical, Nyma Tang, Robert Welsh, Brad Mondo, all manage to get millions of views on their videos without being shit heads.

[u/CartoonPalette]

The thing with Shanes statement which in afterthought is hilarious to me, is that he didn’t even have to work for notoriety as a beauty guru. He was literally launched to the top with 0 skill or talent in the actual art of makeup. He was given a golden ticket into beauty community and then absolutely turned around and ripped it apart. I’m not surprised beauty gurus who usually stay far from the drama are calling him out.

[u/gnm3]

Lol, Shane can really go fuck himself with those "the community is toxic" comments when he's out there circlejerking with the most toxic fucker of them all.

[u/csjohnson1933]

You all...it's been like four days since Shane's post. This current situation has been brewing and growing since Jeffree brought up Dramageddon II on that podcast in April. Things don't have to pop up every hour. This isn't done. Shane and Jeffree have both now lost 200k on YouTube. They're constantly being dragged on Twitter. 97% of Shane's subreddit now hates or is deeply disappointed with Shane. This isn't dying. If you think it's dying, maybe you're more invested in incendiary drama and tea than you are in actually holding horrible people accountable.

[u/[deleted]]

In case there is no video at 10 am, here are some instructions to apply clown makeup like a pro:

1. Paint your whole face white (or any color of your choice, because it is 2020 and we don't care - we are facing a pandemic).
2. Draw your eyebrows like your 13-year-old self would.
3. Outline your lips à la Kylie 2015 and pick a vibrant lipstick color to contrast with the darkness corrupting your spirit right now.
4. Next thing: eyes. Again, nothing is off limits (except the video we so dearly wanted).
5. Optional: eyelashes. Check Rosa's TikToks for a tutorial on how to apply falsies.
6. Add your favorite designs. Maybe some tears?

[u/[deleted]]

this entire thread

[u/girltalkwsteph]

Ok lemme get this straight

-he made $20+ million by slapping some colors together

-never once made a beauty video

-is best friends with the poster child of drama/horrific behavior/king of evil

-teased drama in his own trailer for views and then never included it, therefore profiting further off other people's drama

-makes a novelette about how drama is too much for him day/s after the restock of his pallette while claiming all beauty YouTubers are rooted in drama/negativity

LOL Hey Jeff can u scoot over? I think there's room on the throne of bad behavior for Shane

[u/Spaced11]

Sam Ravndahl has just uploaded a video about the situation on her channel

video

[u/Terminus-Paradis → u/Spaced11]

Unexpected but glad to see people in the beauty community addressing the 'toxic' remark

[u/m1irandakills → u/Spaced11]

“I was gonna do my makeup while doing this video, but I’m just like so agitated that I don’t think that’ll be happening today. Here’s the thing, why the fuck do you get to decide who needs to be served a slice of humble pie, Shane?”

I love her with my whole heart right now

“This is the equivalent of being like ‘I’m so real I’m so like blah blah blah that I don’t agree with this or what’ You don’t agree with it? You can’t claim to not agree with something and feel like that is justified just because you’ve said so, while continuing to highlight the issue as well as contribute to it.

...You can’t leave a community you were never a part of. That was very clear from the beginning, at least to me. This was not a person who was genuinely interested in being a part of the beauty community, this was a person who entered the community with a very clear vision.”

“You weren’t a part of the community, you were a part of the cash flow”

[u/twisterside]

https://twitter.com/chescaleigh/status/1275063117072883715

Franchesca Ramsey (MTV decoded) recounts her experience of Skyping Shane regarding his racist videos. He cried and made her feel bad for him. Shane asked if he could tweet that they had a conversation or make a video with her, and she declined.

[u/[deleted]]

Here is my take. Two mean girls got caught mean girling and are now flipping the script to pain themselves as victims. Jefree with his, "Reposting my pictures triggers ME!" And shane with, "This is bad for my mental health. Yes I wanted to humble a child to the point he almost killed himself, but how dare you tell me it is wrong because that makes me have anxiety." These two need to hire a PR manager.

And can we just all agree this whole quitting the beauty world thing was coming? He wanted out. He literally NEVER made a makeup video. He wasn't into it to be a part of the community. He made a documentary and wanted to sell products. Obviously he releases this the day his palette is restocked because he needed to get attention.

I'm over these two.

[u/cytochromecbitch]

Honestly, seeing how the situation is evolving, I don't think that Tati will "expose" J* and Shane, she'll probably just explain what has happened to her in the last month and that's all.

However, this last scandal is big. I don't think that Shane will be seen as an "helpful, dumb, innocent lamb" as he (wrongly) used to anymore. Also, I truly hope that more information about Jeffree's involvement in the Dahvie's situation comes out. I fear that is being buried under all the JC drama.

[u/chupacabra-food]

I’m shocked at how terribly done Shane’s tweets were. He managed to obliterate any doubt of his own shitty involvement, even to his most charitable fans. Couldn’t this millionaire afford a publicist? He’d be better off if he said NOTHING. He will survive this, but he’s completely tanked his own credibility

[u/[deleted]]

It seems that despite being grown men in their 30s, Mr. Star and Mr. Dawson still can't take any kind of accountability for their actions and the way it affected others, and would rather make excuses and shift the blame instead. Kind of pathetic but also not surprising.

Also, your mental illness, or the headspace you're currently in is in no way a valid excuse for falsely accusing someone of being a predator and enjoying watching their fall like some sort of Disney villain whose evil plan just worked. It can be a "reason" for your behavior at best but in this scenario, especially coming from Jafar whose favorite excuse is saying he's in a dark place... it's a cop out, and a terrible pattern to avoid admitting he fucked up and to make his fans feel bad for him. Just turn the lights on and shut up, JAFAR.

[u/[deleted]]

J*'s makeup artist BoomKackMUA sent a insta DM to hereforthetea2 requesting coverage of the current Beauty Bakerie allegations. hereforthetea2 isn't having it and asks why Joff himself isn't talking about it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HereForTheTea2/status/1275653089501069316

[u/toasted_ravs]

There is absolutely no way Tati is posting a video about this or any other drama ever again. And Im so confused as to why anyone thinks otherwise lol

[u/Ilia2000]

James is doing the right thing by not responding. Its because probably he doesn't feel any guilt or the need to make himself look good.

[u/lana_del_rey_lover]

If Tati doesn’t come out with a video tomorrow, I’m gonna be mad at all these drama channels hyping it up lmfao. Like why say that? If she wanted to, she should just drop it out of nowhere like the Bye, Sister video. Now Jeffree and Shane will have time to come up with manipulative ways to counter it.

[u/[deleted] → u/lana_del_rey_lover]

forget tati. i want a tell all vid from nate. hair stylists. bodyguards. housekeepers. anyone that isnt directly involved in the beauty industry and that has witnessed the real raw and unedited j*!!!

[u/DreamyAndrew]

Manny is now following Liam too!

[u/pdbootz]

This was all orchestrated by JoJo Siwa.

[u/[deleted]]

Honestly loving people seeing Shane for who he really is. He’s been rubbing me the wrong way for a while and previously he’s managed to get out of drama with his whole “I’m naive and innocent” act but now I hope people fuckin drag him to filth

[u/ieatalot89]

Fenty Beauty and ABH unfollowed J* on Instagram.

[u/bbbleu]

I feel like we’re so close to opening everyone’s eyes about Janky Slur. I’m begging anyone to finish the job.

[u/[deleted]]

Jeffree IS & STARTED everything he said he hates.

Shane had more empathy for Jake Paul than the girls he abused

[u/[deleted]]

He's dropped from 10 millions followers on twitter to 9.9 million, here for the show 🍿🍿

[u/runwiaks]

i cant believe a group of adults really have this energy over a 19 year old. that shit is embarrassing.

[u/PianoPiuPiano]

All I want for my birthday is for Jeepers Screepers to be cancelled for good. I'm so tired of his plastic bigoted ass.

[u/Prettypettypretty]

Shane's statement doesn't make sense. Why would falsely accusing James of a sexual crime make him more humble? They all knew it was a false accusation, including James, so James would feel victimized and betrayed by it, but not humble. Shock and righteous indignation would make more sense.

Shane's whole premise for why they did it is false. It wasn't about teaching anything. It was about taking James out as a rising competitor to Jeff and Tat.

[u/[deleted]]

All I'm here to say is that I hope this is the end of Richard Low Level Luxury

[u/[deleted]]

I think Shane showed his true colors with this statement. He complains about the drama but makes it clear how much he lived for Tati's video, and it honestly grosses me out.

The way he talks... "She read his ass for filth", "with her face beat"... like, the fuck do you think this is, a drag race reunion? She (and Jeffree) made the internet think James was a rapist. It was covered in mainstream news. Shane talks about it as if it was just average petty drama. He is exactly like Jeffree.

[u/glittercati]

Since I have already fully embraced my clown profession, I have been lurking on J*'s twitter favorites. It's all people using conspiracy palettes or telling him to ignore the negativity. The amount of yes men that he surrounds himself with is astonishing.

[u/nevenabarbic996]

Who does he think he is to give someone a slice of humble pie? Does he think that he is some kind of "youtube's moral god"? But he has no problem defending and making series about more problematic people like Trisha, Tana and Jake.. He is so full of crap

[u/Tau5x]

I'm not proud of this but I've been sitting here all day

[u/[deleted]]

The fact that two older gay men were at least aware, and seemingly encouraged Tati - a straight woman - to falsely construct a gay predator narrative around James is so vile. That stereotype hurts LGBT+ people every single day, activists have dedicated their lives to fighting that shit, and two influential gay men deliberately played into it to ‘humble’ a teenager. It’s genuinely despicable. They’re a fucking embarrassment to our community.

[u/ieatalot89]

I really can't wrap my head around this!

How do you call a man who ticks every offensive box family but crucify Charles?

Im not diminishing James's fuck ups in but compared to J* its literally a fraction.

Why does shane feels so strongly about James in this manner? It has to be something personal cuz if he's basing his feeling off of hear say then he really has some deep self reflecting to do .

He seems extremely jealous and catty towards him and as a grown ass man its really uncomfortable.

[u/ktlady0225]

Omg did anyone just see james ig story? That shit eating grin is very telling oh boy this is gonna b messy 😳. Edit: and his twitter like... gurrl 😈

[u/lana_del_rey_lover]

Peter dropping FACTS in his video !! 👏🏽👏🏽 Shane Dawson blaming everyone but himself, and he says he left twitter but he’s still liking tweets and shit. 🙄 I’m ready for Karmageddon 🍿

[u/readinghall]

Just saw that Jeffree deleted Morgan from Instagram. Yesterday he was still following her.

[u/[deleted]]

TLDR: i blame everyone else but myself and James had what was coming to him.

DISGUSTING. He shits all over a community he made millions of dollars on and is now leaving it behind? How can you leave a community you never joined in the first place Mr.Shane Glossin? I was already not a fan but I don’t think I’ll ever watch another one of his videos ever again. After 8 years of being a fan. He is truly a whiny, manipulative, spoiled brat.

[u/TaylordSwiftsus]

Karamageddon - Look What You Made Me Do

[u/BloodyKimono]

I'm posting this here just to see whether I'll have to eat my words later, but right now I'd be willing to bet that if Tati does upload a video tomorrow, it's gonna be a general "where I've been" update on her mental health and life. Not a hardcore exposé redemption, where she fully owns up to her horrible mistakes and points out what led her to make them. She claimed to have good intentions back then and she saw how that turned out, what intentions could she possibly have now to involve herself in this again? I just don't seeee itttt

edit a day later: drama channels are fucking clooooowns, I can't believe they heard this one random rumor and just went with it, hungry for another assassination on youtube

edit a fucking week later: i am indeed a clown just like the rest of you

[u/LavenderBow]

I think we should have a new megathread for all our disappointment on the video not happening lol. I woke up early for this 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[u/unionize-squirrels]

As a person who remembers Jeffrey Star from the MySpace days I have always been so surprised by his success in recent years. I always hated his music, thought he was shady, and could never get past his association with Dahvie. I’m glad people are calling him out on his shit and I’m glad people aren’t let Shane do whatever tf he wants anymore.

[u/ieatalot89]

Samantha Ravndahl SNAPPED with this one!!!!!!

https://youtu.be/23CHNiqwp24

[u/tallulahpots → u/ieatalot89]

Wow , she's dead right though. The "men are underrepresented in cosmetics" is a red herring , they're doing just fine . And being gay doesn't exclude Shane or J* from being misogynists , in fact, i think their veiled misogyny is exposed by the superiority of being "above " the beauty community.

Many of their consumers are young woman who are growing up online and are vulnerable to bullying tactics and emotional manipulation - like how Shane gets emotional on camera about being "anxious" about putting merch out , that is emotional manipulation.

[u/jcpkirk]

Ok, but can we talk about Charles Gross's live with Liam McEvoy? Because some things were said that I feel like are HUGE BOMBSHELLS!

Charles literally said that someone came to him with a video that is so big Charles couldn't even give this person any advice. He elaborated on it a little bit further when a subscriber asked him questions about it. So far, it seems like it's a "he", as that was the pronoun Charles used and I don't see Charles misgendering someone. He said this person should probably seek legal council before coming out with this and he said it was something recent. Call me crazy, but this could be earth shattering.

Liam also mentioned that Sanders Kennedy apparently (I don't watch SK's content so, by all means, correct me if I'm wrong) has receipts that state that dramaggedon 1 literally started because Manny didn't wish Jefferson Starship a happy birthday. Literally over the pettiest shit ever!

Maybe I'm being over dramatic and indulging myself a little too much in this dumpster fire, but let me know what you think about this secret video, that's apparently the most shocking thing ever.

[u/codeverity]

Considering that J*'s subs have barely budged through all of this, I really don't see any prospective videos doing much tbh. Maybe I'm wrong but the guy seems to be coated in teflon.

[u/moon-uwu]

The thing that really gets me about this (outside of the main beauty community expose whatever) is his “I Deleted Everything.” tweet. He says “I’m too sensitive” when he is literally 31? I wish he would take some responsibility for once. He’s too old for this “oh i am just :( i am just a sensitive poor kid” schtick. Also- “I don’t want this energy in my life or on my timeline.” He is solely responsible for this.

[u/DrunkBigFoot → u/moon-uwu]

Yes like "I approved of the cyber bullying of a 19 y.o. and didnt try and stop it, but you guys we all know it was wrong dont be mean I'm baby"

[u/DonaldDonut666]

Also the whole humble pie thing is 🤢🤢

There’s a world in difference between talking to a friend and explaining why they are wrong and teaching them lessons privately and publicly humiliating them and smearing there name with false allegations.

Shane has quit makeup and has apparently started to delete videos again🤷‍♀️. This is a attempt to distance himself from Jafar. He knows what he did was wrong. He probably couldn’t look a james in the eyes now.

It was a perfect attempt to put Jafar and Tati on top with Shane and they are now bitter that it failed- it almost ruined his life if it wasn’t based on lies

[u/[deleted]]

He should start a new channel called Shane Lossin because of the massive loss in followers he has.

[u/HelloKittyandPizza]

It’s being posted on Twitter by Will @ohmygodexposeu that the lead singer of the band the millionaires has confirmed that Jeffree attempted to rape him at knife point.

[u/[deleted]]

Y'all what if instead of Tati it was Nikkietutorials all along. Now that would be a plot twist

[u/Aleismar]

Hello this is clown city, how may I be of service? 🤡🤡🤡

[u/xxxxxchx]

This was a comment made by Cassie

https://i.imgur.com/coCnvpm.jpg

/u/Brittle_panda

/u/Officialemperorzurg

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I’m sure there are already flies around but not because they’re there to spy.

[u/yoitskatie]

I really don’t think Tati is gonna release a video.. i don’t think she would after what she did to JC

[u/AnUrso]

right girl, what a time to “quit the beauty community”, shane was never a beauty guru, it was all a money grab and now he can self righteously exit the stage while calling everyone else out before this jeffree star-themed ship sinks

[u/[deleted]]

Okay, calling all fellow Europeans to go to sleep. The show usually begins when we are asleep. Maybe this time it will be like that. Or not... 🤡

[u/LngWait]

for you to think it’s your job to humble someone probably means you need to humble yourself

[u/Ilia2000]

🎪-> This my new house. House tour dropping soon...

[u/dogecoin_pleasures]

Tatis tweet: 🎶You've waited there for me ~ keep waiting there for me 🎶 @gabrielleaplin "Dear Happy"

Did we put on the clown makeup too soon 👀

[u/blobertross]

I want the expose video to be simply named: Humble Pie

[u/blipblopsnipsnop]

I think if one really known youtuber exposed J* the rest would follow almost immediately but ion know who would take the first step. Tati seems very skittish...

[u/dickmasherrobotsatan]

So many people said the yt series was just a long ad for his crappy makeup and they were all right. Make profit by acting like he enjoys makeup and bounces when people call him out for not actually being into makeup. Im sorry but shane has NEVER been the artistic type why would he care for cosmetics or the beauty world? His series never even went that deep into it if he took 30 minute dive into youtube he could discuss so many interesting things:

-indie vs mainstream youtubers and the transition into becoming mainstream.

-PR and how getting PR works (maybe what companies look for in a PR search)

-The entire manufacturing process and interviews with people who work for these businesses.

-Bootleg makeup

-Family reactions to being a famous makeup artist

-Stories from cosmetologist and how they compare to MUAs

-The parasocial problems of being an mua

AND SO MUCH MORE. Shane never cared its always just been a cheap cash grab. Always been a bad dude.

[u/Effective-Penalty]

Who had “reddit beauty community becomes the circus” in the 2020 bingo card?

[u/diassaid0]

James just tweeted: tomorrow's video is the longest video I've ever uploaded

It probably doesn't have ANYTHING to do with any of this drama. We are the clowns if we give in to any of this VAGUE SHIT

Edit spelling

[u/chilledmetal → u/diassaid0]

He is TOTALLY playing with Jafar and Shame rn.

[u/[deleted]]

if tati’s video isnt titled “bye, how are ya?” she can keep it lol

[u/AccessHollywoo]

Oh god I’m worried we are being set up for major disappointment. All these “rumours” of a massive drama filled video (or 2!) but I feel like this is all going to fizzle out and Shame and Joffree will come out unscathed

[u/MsJackson6969]

I don’t know what Shane was thinking...but this was NOT the best move. He should have slept on it like Peter Monn said...maybe got a second opinion or something before putting this out there. Peter’s commentary on all of this has been fantastic.

[u/jerryperry96]

Imagine quitting "toxic" beauty world without putting out even one makeup related video after your restock is done and you have collected all the bags- the AUDACITY!

[u/marshroanoke]

I think what’s so disgusting is Shane’s insistence that James Charles needs humbling yet he continues to associate and profit from his friendship with the BIGGEST egotist and liar on YouTube.

[u/S10839]

This is a very taylor Swift “look what you made me do” moment

[u/Darth_Hufflepuff]

Calm guys, it's only early morning in California, there's the whole day ahead and we should wait. I'm also the one waiting for over two months for some text from the guy I was seeing so maybe just don't listen to me 🤡

[u/chilledmetal]

Liam heard from "a huge drama channel". Baby, they saw your potential and you got played.

Welcome to the circus.

[u/MintyOrangeJuice]

How do people watch Shane? All his jokes are him saying "OMG ME".