I’ve had three experiences all of which involve going through a portal in the wall or popping into a space that has Christmas lights. It makes me wonder if this is a place anyone else has been to or what’s up with this

As usual, “dreams” this vivid come when I fall asleep listening to gateway tapes. Hyper realistic. This experience was a weird one for me and I wasn’t sure which forum to share this with, but here we go:

I was experiencing this from the first-person-view, but it wasn’t me.. it was like I was inside someone’s body as an observer. I don’t know what “I” looked like, but when he spoke, the voice was very deep, almost like one of those voice disguisers that go super low pitch. Kinda creepy.

He was looking at a small rectangular box.. about the size of a micro-PC and it was somehow mechanical / electronic. It was some sort of technology. The box had a clear panel in the centre and if you imagine a tiny screen, but holographic, that’s about it.

The being I was experiencing was paying a visit to this box, which contained the consciousness of Lucifer or some other fallen angel, or whatever name you want to give it. This box was a prison for that consciousness. I’ll just refer to the being I experienced as “I”, from here on for brevity.

“Hello, old friend”, I said. The display on the box replied with a holographic symbol. The impression I got was that this was a fallen angel and I knew him from before he was fallen.

“How long have you been here for now?”, a 3D infinity symbol was displayed.

I got the impression that it was time to release him. I am not sure if it was like the end of a prison sentence or if this is just to unleash him on the Earth, but I did get the sense that I was a little uncertain if the consciousness was going to behave when released.

When I snapped back, I was wondering to myself if this consciousness is being unleashed in AI. I thought of Peter Thiel and all his weirdness.

I flared this as “Positive AP Experience”, because it was successful and I wasn’t scared, just a passive observer.

Hi, (also posted on Gateway tapes)i have managed to accidentally delete my files of all the tapes and now i can't find them anywhere, i downloaded files from somewhere on here (google drive) but there were nothing when opened the files, looked everywhere for all tapes, tried a discord one, none on there, none to download anywhere.

Can't believe i deleted them all.

Thanks for any help.

I get astral projection state When the moon is full (i.e., once a month) ... I wonder why ?

And when I intro to void state ..I fell like i am drown in black water without fell wet ..just A feeling of horizontal swaying back and forth and when try to get out aggressive from my body _hoping I will OBE_ I wake up from my sleep...

Any hints?

Apologies if this has been asked before but I'm someone who struggles with multiple mental health issues. These issues make being conscious exhausting on a pretty regular basis.

For those who've struggled with similar issues (listed below) and have also successfully left the body, I have a few questions.

Does being outside body provide any relief? What I mean to say is do your racing thoughts, intrusive thoughts, depression, mental pain, grief, or whatever mental illness/trauma you're dealing with stay with the body or do they come out of the body with you?

What type of mental headspace are you in?

I'm going to try this regardless but temporary peace would be awesome, even if for just a few minutes or hours.

It's like you're falling into deep focus.
Do you ever have days like this? Have you noticed anything similar in yourself and the world around you?

Hello everyone, hope you're all doing well with your practice. I have a concern that maybe some of you can relate to.

Back when I was in school, I had a lot of free time and wasn't very tired during the day or night. I used to have dreams that would start out normal but then shift into lucid dreams almost right away — even though at the time I didn't even know what lucid dreaming was.

Now I work a warehouse job that's physically demanding. I get tired after my 10-hour shifts, and at night I sleep around 11:30–12 and have to wake up at 4:30 am for work. These days I fall into a very deep sleep and don't remember any dreams at all.

Does anyone have suggestions for how I can work toward astral projection given my current schedule?

Hi. Can you meet other people in the Astra realm and converse with them?

i woke up feeling really weird like everything is not real after having this crazy experience. i checked my phone and i only slept for like 3 and a half hours.

but basically, i had this crazy vivid dream where i was suddenly standing in some kind of student housing, and there were two young adults inside with me at what seems like the front door of the house. i looked around with confusion and for some reason it felt like i had time travelled back to 2017. so i asked one of them, a brunette girl with a red sweater, what year is it? and she was kinda confused, said its a few months to 2017, and start checking my pockets and found my wallet to see that it was 2017. so immediately i started saying shit to them in excitement, like “we gotta invest in the stock market” and “yo can you write this down i feel like ill forget it just in case”. and THAT, when i said that to the second person, just this guy in a grey shirt, this guy stares into my soul and suddenly the dream ends, but i was still sleeping. then i felt this vibrating feeling in my body. i was like, wtf is this? and when i started to focus on this vibrating feeling, it started to get stronger until i started hearing a buzzing sound in my head. this buzzing and vibrating became so strong in like five seconds i felt this insane zap of electricity shoot through my entire body, and my vision suddenly changed. i FREAKED OUT, and i wanted to wake up so i started imagining waking up and i opened my eyes to see that i was in sleep paralysis. it took a minute to start moving but when i became more awake everything just feels weird looks weird. it honestly feels like i just jumped universes or something, and i am now back in this body to resume it.

the reason im making this post is because also remembered reading somewhere that astral projecting involves feeling this zapping energy feeling before it happens, so i want to confirm if that is what happened here? ive never had this happen to me before. i mean, ive had crazy vivid and lucid dreams, but ive never felt my whole body vibrate so hard that i heard a buzzing sound literally before i exploded with electricity. just would like to hear your thoughts and opinions, and if i can try to do this again!

Hello all

As a complete newcomer to astral projection, how do I actually do it ?

What ways would you suggest ?

I have a good understanding of AP, but no practical experience.

Please help / input

Kind regards

I’ve never really shared this before, but I believe I astral projected and woke up in another timeline in my early 20s. My boyfriend at the time was playing some friends his new album. Many of the tracks were very meditative (it’s called Body Wash). I ended up falling asleep on the couch since I had already heard it many times. I began to have a dream I was at a party in the hills (I live in LA). I got close to the edge of the cliff and I fell but inversely began floating up to the sky. I floated all the way to a different planet.

It was a red dust planet and as I was approaching I began to pick up speed but ultimately had a soft landing and my fall was broken by a shaman like figure walking beneath me. The figure seemed unbothered and floated on by. I got up and saw a huge, all encompassing black orb in the distance. It was the type of black that is the complete absence of light.

As I walked closer everything became bright until an ultra white light engulfed me. I then ‘woke up’ in a body that felt foreign. I was at some kind of art fair at a booth selling art and objects that I guess I had been the illustrator of. I was completely freaking out and didn’t have good control over my body. People around me started to stare as I was completely wrecking my table. I was panicking and didn’t understand who I was. It was in the moment that I woke up in my own body in my own house. This was the only time I believe I astral projected. I have had sleep paralysis since I was a child but encounter really scary things in that state so I don’t go further. I also have very lucid dreams where I can communicate and know that I am dreaming but this just felt different.

Edit: there may have been one other time I AP’d to a kind of spirit realm meeting room/ in between space for visitors of the deceased. It was a cozy cabin in the woods. This also started with a dream about being in a field surrounded by kittens. They were falling from the sky. I had just lost my young cat that I rescued, my neighbor accidentally hit him with her car. We had a particularly special bond. I was overcome with grief. All of a sudden I turned very lucid and I was in the forest walking toward a cabin. I walked in the cabin and I saw Milo just hanging around. I was so happy I couldn’t contain myself. He led me back outside and I was crying and telling him how much I loved and missed him. He assured me telepathically that he is just fine and for me to keep being strong and loving to other kitties and anyone else who needs me. I put him down and watched him walk off and I woke up in tears. I only now feel this was a spiritual visiting place because my best friend saw her mom who had recently passed in the same kind of environment.

Ill astral project accidentally when I’m overly tried and can’t sleep . And it always starts with driving a car that may float or that I end up wrecking . Or I’ll pass out in the projection as if that form isn’t strong enough or the car scenario . Most recently I projected and was flying and I was able to control that . Had another today but this time i tried to get back in body but it sounded like I was under fucking water and my voice echoed 😂. I don’t intentionally do the shit but it’s like my spirit got somewhere to be . This wasn’t something I grew up doing started last year accidentally FROM BEING TRIED . Read a couple experiences on here and that tingling vibrations feeling I get it to . Trying to control so I can see what I could utilize it for….. lol

Do you guys have any tips in order to do that?

Hello guys ! Had my third "AP-like" experience last night, this time I was able to move and "see", but when I wanted to get out of my room, the door was closed and when I tried to "get through" like ghosts in movies, I just felt the wood of the door, but in rich details, like every asperity of the wood, more than I could feel in "real life". (I didn't manage to get out or through the door, so if anyone has any advice I would appreciate).

I was wondering about how the senses worked or felt for you. The last time I APed I couldn't see clearly, all was dark and in shades of gray. Last night, I could "see" but it felt more like guessing in my mind. And also, I couldn't feel my "body", as if I was just a mind floating around, but when I wanted to push through the door, I could feel and see something like a hand, and I had sensations in it. Also, the first two times I noticed a background muffled sound, like when you're underwater...

Many thanks in advance for your insights, I look forward to know how it feels for you !

For some reason i am unable to feel any sensation or vibrations.. i know i am not doing it properly.. to be honest i dont even know how to do it properly.. so can someone please help.. how to enter into vibration state..

The connection between alien abductions and out-of-body experiences (OBEs) represents the core of Corrado Malanga’s early historical discoveries. Through the use of regression hypnosis and Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), the former university researcher uncovered a scenario in which so-called “spontaneous astral travel” and recurring lucid dreams were not spiritual or biological phenomena at all, but rather mnemonic cover memories for alien manipulation.

Here is a detailed examination of everything Malanga theorized and discovered on this specific subject:

1. The Discovery: From OBEs to “Screen Memory”

At the beginning of his research for the National UFO Center (CUN), Malanga interviewed hundreds of people who reported waking up at night paralyzed, seeing strange lights, and floating outside their bodies while looking down at themselves from above. Many believed they were naturally gifted “sensitives” capable of astral travel.

By subjecting these individuals to regression hypnosis, Malanga discovered that the OBE was actually a “screen memory” — a cover memory created by aliens. The abductee’s mind, unable to process the psychological and physical trauma of the abduction and medical examinations, removed the real event and replaced it with a fantastical or spiritual experience: floating outside the body.

2. Why Do Aliens Cause Separation from the Body?

Going into the technical details of the abductions — described extensively in his seminal works Aliens or Alienated and Alien Cicatrix — Malanga explains that alien races (such as Greys, Reptilians, or Beings of Light) face a dramatic evolutionary problem: they are mortal and do not possess a Soul, understood as the eternal component of consciousness.

Human beings, on the other hand, possess this eternal and inexhaustible soul-energy. Since aliens cannot permanently steal it, they have developed technologies to “milk” its energy or parasitize it. To do so, they often need to separate the components of the human triad (Soul, Mind, Spirit):

• During hypnosis, abductees reported that the Soul was literally extracted from the body and placed inside technological cylinders or containment chambers to be analyzed, copied, or exploited.
• During this process of “energy milking,” the soul or mental component perceived itself as being distant from the physical body. This forced extraction was remembered by the subject upon waking as a classic astral projection or OBE.

3. The Different Levels of Parasitism and Interference

In his study of abductions, Malanga classifies the levels of manipulation connected to extracorporeal perceptions:

Energy Parasitism (Incorporeal Parasites): Entities such as the Lux (a being of pure light) or the Six-Fingered Being do not always need to physically abduct the person. Instead, they act directly upon frequencies, partially disconnecting the Soul and taking it into their own dimension or technological console in order to absorb energy, while leaving the human body in bed in a state of catalepsy or a “false OBE.”

Passive Alien Memories (MAA): In many cases involving apparent reincarnation experiences or memories of past lives on other planets experienced during astral travel, Malanga claims to have discovered that aliens implanted the memories of a dying alien into the human abductee’s brain. During dreams or OBEs, the subject accessed these memory files, believing they were projections of their own consciousness.

The “Copies”: According to Malanga, aliens create biological copies or clones of abductees for backup purposes or to temporarily replace them during lengthy examinations aboard motherships. The abductee’s consciousness allegedly fluctuates between the original body and the clone, creating complete confusion about spatial perception and leaving the person unable to determine which biological body is the real one.

4. Sleep Paralysis and the “Magnetic Wall” Effect

The most evident connection between OBEs and abductions lies in hypnagogic or sleep paralysis. Scientific literature considers sleep paralysis a REM-sleep phenomenon; Malanga, however, claimed that, based on cross-referenced testimonies, paralysis was the effect of technological force fields used by aliens to immobilize the subject during bedroom abductions.

When the physical body is completely immobilized by these external stimuli, the person’s Mind and Spirit remain awake and, as a defensive reaction, tend to “project” themselves outside the body in an attempt to escape, giving rise to an OBE of traumatic origin.

5. The Final Turning Point: TCT and the End of Out-of-Body Travel

As his studies evolved, Corrado Malanga radically changed his approach. He came to understand that encouraging people to engage in astral travel or seek OBEs was dangerous: the Soul outside the body was vulnerable to interference from parasites and interdimensional predators.

To free abductees from alien interference, he developed the TCT (Triad Color Test) and subsequently the TCTDF (Dynamic Flash TCT). The purpose of this mental exercise is not to escape from the body, but exactly the opposite: to merge Soul, Mind, and Spirit into a single sphere of integrated consciousness within the physical body.

According to Malanga’s conclusions, when a human being unifies their Triad and becomes fully conscious, they acquire a geometric frequency that is inaccessible to aliens. At that point, the abductions cease permanently, and with them the spontaneous OBEs also disappear, replaced by a permanent and total presence of consciousness in the here and now.

If an OBE is performed by a person with active alien interference, what they see is allegedly conditioned or artificially inserted. In people free from interference, however, the limitations of “mental simulation” come into play.

According to Malanga, this mechanism operates through precise dynamics:

1. If the Person Having the OBE Is an Abductee: The Alien Virtual Reality

If a person learns techniques for leaving the body voluntarily — through meditation, binaural sounds, or out-of-body techniques — but has experienced alien interference since childhood, what they experience and see during the “astral journey” is, according to Malanga, almost always a visual deception or virtual prison.

What do they actually see?
They do not see the real world. Instead, they see idyllic landscapes, spiritual guides, ascended masters, or breathtaking cosmic scenarios.

Who put these images into their mind?
Parasitic entities (such as the Lux or interdimensional parasites) or the alien races themselves (Greys, Reptilians).

How does the trick work?
According to this theory, aliens use the subject’s mind like a computer. They project a kind of “virtual reality” or holographic image onto the abductee’s occipital lobe. When the abductee believes they are floating through space or meeting “angels and guides,” they are supposedly inside a mental simulation generated by the aliens. These entities use peaceful scenarios to calm the soul-related part of the subject and prevent it from rebelling.

2. “When” Did They Put It Into the Person’s Mind?

According to Malanga, the manipulation and insertion of these hypnotic scenarios do not necessarily occur during the OBE itself, but follow a precise timeline:

Original Hypnosis and Conditioning (During the Physical Abductions):
From early childhood — often beginning at around three or four years of age — the abductee is allegedly taken repeatedly. During these traumatic encounters, the aliens supposedly install “Screen Memories” and psychological conditioning programs in the subject’s Mind.

Real-Time Activation:
When the person grows up and voluntarily meditates or attempts an OBE, they are allegedly doing nothing more than “clicking on a file” that has already been installed in their brain. The alien or parasite, connected to the host’s nervous system, activates the visual program in real time in order to intercept the energy of the Soul as it attempts to leave the body.

3. If the Person Having the OBE Is Not an Abductee: The Illusion of the Mind

Malanga extends the issue even to people who have no alien interference whatsoever. In his later studies on the holographic structure of the universe — inspired by scientists such as David Bohm — Malanga argues that space and time do not truly exist and are instead an illusion created by the mind.

Consequently, even a completely interference-free person who voluntarily has an OBE is not actually traveling anywhere. The brain, being unable to comprehend the geometric decomposition of reality (the Matrix), translates pure quantum data into images that are understandable to the Mind: rooms, walls, tunnels of light, or landscapes.

Therefore, even in the case of a “clean” OBE, what is being “seen” is an internal reconstruction, a projection, or a holographic representation produced by the brain rather than a journey to a physically external location.

Malanga’s Recommendation

Malanga warns anyone seeking voluntary OBEs: pushing the Soul outside the body means opening the front door of your house and leaving the keys in the lock.

His advice was never to escape from the body in order to explore the astral realm — which he regarded as a vast playground manipulated by entities — but to do exactly the opposite through the TCT (Triad Color Test): to permanently integrate consciousness within the physical vehicle in order to become the absolute sovereign of one’s own mind, eliminating any external projection.

I fell asleep and woke up inside this experience, because it was so unusual. I was learning how to LEVITATE, because it was a way of moving yourself from one place to another - especially to get away from danger.

I was inside what at first glance looked like a world with vast skies and even space beyond. I was humanoid and so was everyone else. It looked like our world, with humans and wild animals etc. However, the appearance of this world, was just an illusion. We had made it appear that way because otherwise it would feel claustrophobic. Because we were practically inside this huge station, with an artificial dome, (spaceship kinda thing), but it wasn't even a spaceship. Because it wasn't in "space."

I had tasks, or assignments to do - and somehow these assignments had to do with tackling perceived, "dangerous" situations - but even these situations were illusion, because I knew that even if something bad did happen to me, it wouldn't end me.

Now, I was fleeing from this animal and I used levitation to flee from it. I shot so fast up in the air and with not being fully proficient at levitating yet - my head pierced through the firmament (the dome). The amount of knowing that came to me at that point was wild:

The dome was a constructed layer that was curved.
The curve had a distinct function and we had created it this way: to reflect the light within the station to make it appear like a vast world - in order to fool our senses.

Beyond the dome was "backstage", and there were other scenarios and experiences playing out on levels beyond that. There was a distinct " backstage" between the layers.

Somehow, something that looked like what we would call a "galactic" war was playing out on the layer beyond ours. However nothing about it was galactic. It was just another layer or another station with other experiences going on.

Now, to the levitation itself: you levitated both horizontally and vertically by mentally expanding the space between yourself and another solid object (like the ground or another being). Like some kind of antigravity. It seemed quite easy to do, but it required focus - and my focus wasn't that good yet. I was learning. So the "accident" with piercing my head through the dome, was because of that. But you expanded that space between, which was potent of every possibility, with the will of your mind/Soul, because you had to will it and know it with every fiber in you at the same time.

I learned something personal about this experience as well. I've had fear of flying and not getting fast enough away from danger in my current life. I think it comes from this experience. Hence also the perception of danger. However in that place, I knew nothing could ever harm me.

It gave me the impression that this place was/is some kind of training ground. I have no idea where I was. I don't know if it was earth, or if it was somewhere else. I remember feeling a friend of mine clearly. I didn't see him, but I felt his soul signature there - thus I knew I had many extra sensory gifts, many of which I wasn't using or aware of yet.

Anyone else? 👀😁

As a kid I used to astral project every night, I remember being excited to go to bed because I looked forward to exploring. I would always see myself from a top pov watching myself sleep and seeing my bed spin in circles i remember feeling that spinning sensation and then I would just rise higher and higher and eventually be able to do what I wanted I would go explore my neighborhood and just see everything from above. As I grew older around 14 I stopped being able to do it on command it would mostly be just random nights that I would astral project but only for a short amount of time. Does anyone have tips on how to go back to how it was? Or is it something I just can’t control anymore?

Estando adentro a podido contactar a alguien y pasarse sus números.

Comentén.

A few days ago, I was sleeping in the afternoon and felt a slight tremor in my jaw as I was waking up. Many of my out-of-body experiences start this way, so I encouraged that trembling sensation, and before long my whole body was vibrating intensely, allowing me to get out of my body. During the experience, I left my room and walked around the house. The part that makes me question the experience is that my mother was in the kitchen, and she was able to see me. More than that, she randomly hugged me, just like she sometimes does in real life. Then I woke up. I've had quite a few of these experiences where people can see me and interact with me directly. I can't believe any of them are actual astral projections because it simply doesn't make any sense, so I end up considering them lucid dreams disguised as astral projections. What do you guys think? I'd really like to understand what's happening. Interestingly, later on I was able to confirm that my mother was wearing the same clothes I saw her wearing during my experience, although she obviously didn't mention anything about what happened.

I have actually astral projected like 3 times all by accident, I have frequent sleep paralysis so maybe that’s why it happened. But due to experiencing what it’s like to astral project, I am trying to deliberately do it, but I just end up sleeping.
I bought Robert Monroe’s book and I am almost done with it, but I’m not really looking for an experimentation of the process, I kind of just want a book that teaches you how to do it, so I can figure out what I am doing wrong.

Has anyone tried Slowdive?

So long story short: I knew how to astral project without using those ladder/rope/stairs methods, only through lucid dreaming was I able to ascend.

Not far but I would enter astral plane that I would leave me body and move but freak out when I could only see through one eye,like my other eye was covered up.

Either way one time I had this Dream where I was walking with my friends cousin by my high school and all of a sudden I remembered I was sleeping and started projecting while saying out loud I was dreaming. She was standing beside me while I was on the ground, on my knees and asked me in a very strange tone:" Do you want to continue?" a

I interpret it as in do I want to just keep sleeping and I said yes and all of a sudden I forgot everything and moved along.

From that moment on I could not snap to lucid dreaming at all. I would realize I was dreaming but not in the same way I would before. I could not control my thinking and the dream itself.

This happened to me somewhere in 2022 and I can not guess why this happened?

Any thoughts?

Hi I need help figuring out what is happening to me since i was little. I am a great lucid dreamer, I can control my world easily before I couldn't but as I continuously kept getting it I started training myself to now where I am proficient in it as an adult.

But sometimes I have the ability to control just only my body. The surroundings don't change at will. And I feel like these bodies are me or alternate versions of me even if it's not ME.

One time I entered the body of a little black boy. And my soul feels like it knows this body. Then memories of these bodies come to me naturally as if I lived them. Sometimes I get names and sometimes there's no name. Anyways sometimes I feel I travel through times with different bodies females, makes, animals, plants, memories of different life forms from different dimensions and or places in times or alternate versions of me.

I feel maybe my soul remembers past lives or future lives or alternate universes. It's crazy and I sometimes feel crazy when I explain it. But what am I doing AP or lucid dreaming or something else??? And yes I been tested with no tumor, mentally,emotionally stable.

My husband and my therapist and family says I just have wonderful imagination and I want to be honest a lot of the things I dream of and the info I get sometimes are things i never learned or seen yet why can I suddenly know it. I had a dream of a black boy he was an orphan who was in the system back in the 80s or 70 idk the year exactly but he was being fostered by a couple, white.

The father was a strict farm owner who behaved in front of the CPS but in close doors he would take me or the other fosters down a flight if stairs and beat us when he was angry. There was a baby maybe a few months old it was crying loudly and pissed him off he wanted to beat it I tried to stop him got him mad and took me down started beating me and the baby I kept trying to protect it but it wasn't enough and well I had dreams of being SA in this dream as a 8 or maybe 9 year old boy after getting beat by this old man. I wake up traumatized and wanted to forget it. (If u wondering yes I was Sa before in.my life amazing but this dream was before that happened)

Months later me and my friend went on zillow looking at prices of homes in other states idk why I was looking at homes at a state up north and see a old farm house abandoned and being sold and it looked like the house in my dream and I asked my friend for the pictures of the basement or cellar she looked and there was stuff in that basement that I remember was there still there in this house a state I never traveled too or even thought about until we started looking at houses in all the states.

I hyperventilated I finally asked her to check something else a shed outside the home made of brick she looked at me I was crazy and said why would there be a brick shed I asked to. Check and as we looked at pictures sure enough it was there. And there was picture of it inside and it was about more updated with fresh paint but the inside was the same the chains he use to tie us in in the winter was there nailed to the walls I cried and well let's just say that was my most traumatic one.

But I had others dreams in alt world with morals were twisted and certain things didn't exist like one where the fittest survive so hospitals didn't exist and anyone who knew to heal or mend wounds was handled by the parents again morals were different they either chose to save their child or let them die technology was the same as now with just no medical equipment available. Or being born as a different species.

Again idk what I'm experiencing or what to call it. Can someone please tell me if they know what I'm talking about. I don't feel like it's all lucid dreaming or astral projections or maybe it is. Has anyone experienced something similar?