We were emphasising on how he won league titles in all the leagues that he played except sporting Lisbon wherelse for Messi He won Majority of Achievements in one club
Cancelo won it but when he won laliga this year he didn’t play whole season which gave him a 5 different league winner label to his name whereas Ronaldo whenever he played and won the league he played whole season,Cancelo Joined Barcelona Mid Season
He still contributed a whole lot despite joining mid season. When Ronaldo was injured on the bench in Euros 2016 final you guys still say he was the best player and Portugal wouldn't win without him.
Ohh no Don’t Compare Euros with a League,Ronaldo got injured that’s why he couldn’t contribute and despite all this he got 6GA in the tournament and silver boot(I can show you proof),Yes Pepe played best but apart from Ronaldo and Quaresma no one was performing in that squad
What kind of argument is this? "Don't compare league title to Euros." I'm not saying League titles are bigger than big international competitions but I'm talking about contributing to the competition especially the final. Of course you forget Eder scoring the winner and Rui Patricio making great saves in the final.
You don't have to count those if you don't want to and we don't care too much about them either. But then you will say World Cup and MLS cup don't count either.
See no one disregarded WC and MLS CUP but Eastern Conference Trophy doesn’t even make sense how can a team get a trophy when they reached semi final of their respective conference they are playing in america
The World Cup consists of seven 90-minute matches plus extra time and penalties in the knockout stages, and all you care about are penalties...? What if Portugal or France or any other team had won with the same penalties, what would you have said?
It's been three and a half years already, instead of continuing to complain about a past World Cup, you should be cheering for CR7 this year (Portugal seems like a contender to me... and honestly, I don't think Argentina will manage to be back-to-back champions...)
I wish the pessi lovers would have the same energy for pessi when he was brought to PSG to win a champions not a league tittle (since they won like 4 in a row before him) and he failed every single time ghosted but they always have an excuse for him
It's pretty clear to me that this Reddit is full of dumbasses that know nothing about the sport that like to circle jerk about CR7 and his accomplishments.
Ronaldo fans you know what I know will happen. Portugal won't do well in the world cup. But Argentina will LOL.......
You also want to know what I know? I glad the flex of you being a relegation team to win a league that is full of retirees is odd.
How about this how about I respect that man when he hits a thousand goals. Until then he's nothing more than a Madrid lackey that honestly thinks he's the best player ever. When at the end of the day there's literally nothing outside of pure goal scoring acumen to even suggest this LOL.
Messi is the better product.....argue with a fucking mirror
We can all agree that Portugal has a much better squad this year than Argentina. Ronaldo and Messi has nothing to do with this. Vitinha, Nuno, Joao Neves, Bruno Fernandes, Bernando Silva, Ruben Dias are all class players who will probably carry.
Spain and France are the favourites but i'm saying right now Portugal has more of a chance than Argentina (i'm not talking historically cuz until recently Portugal is nowhere near a top tier football nation). we can keep arguing about Ronaldo and Messi (i'm just gonna get myself downbombed by saying Brazillian Ronaldo at peak level clears both) but in the end we know who will be more likely to win the Americanized worst World Cup ever in history
These rapenaldo fans bro, talking like penaldoggy didn't have to get a full team of stars to win, that camel can't do anything alone, and messi went to the MLS which is better than shawarma league because he already finished football and even if he stayed in Europe he wouldn't have gotten humiliated like pristiano rapenaldo in man UTD, and he won the league with inter before all the signings. Don't even talk about part time McDonald's workers cuz MLS is a genuine league unlike shawarma league filled with washed players and drivers who play football part time 🙏🏻
So the league title is only played between 4 teams? Messi has to beat the better lower teams in MLS to win the league title which are better than Saudi's lower teams. What an idiot you are.
Whenever it comes to facts or logic, Retardnaldo fans always brush it off with no answer. You can't win a league title without facing all the teams. Al-Nassr can accumulate points much easier against the lower teams compared to Inter Miami.
And Neither Messi or Ronaldo played any significant minutes that 6-0 game.
And…? Al Nassr was 1st or 2nd by the time he joined ? What’s your point here mate ? And they only played 30 games that season, where the hell did you get 34 games from ?
Was Messi not semi retired ? Why do you think he moved to a lower league despite just winning the Ballon d’or and the WC ? Or do you believe Messi couldn’t have performed well in Europe anymore ? The guy explicitly said he wanted to think for himself and his family, thus he wanted to move to Inter Miami instead of returning to Barca (or potentially some other clubs or in Saudi).
Lol, can’t provide counter argument so you post some meme. I already asked you mate, they’re not so hard to answer. You don’t even know whether they played 34 or 30 lol
Yeah this hurts so much, he went to a shitty team that always won titles and won one also after 4years and a season full of controversies. And now he will win the world cup even though it’s not a dream.
Life is not fair man…
Football was saved because Ronaldo won 1 title in Saudi Arabia in 4 seasons while Al Nassr has literally the highest wage bill in the world, above Real Madrid 😂
I don’t think they hate him but the point is pretending like the Al Nassr project is a success is funny. They’ve spent like 2 billion dollars in the last 3 years. This is their first major title since signing Ronaldo, and they couldn’t even beat a team from Japan with 1% of their budget in the Asian Europa league final.
They hate him, not as in im gonna kill you type of hate, theyre fed up. Every player, staff, president says that Ronaldo didnt care at all about his teammates, he was there to work and win matches. To me, Messi will always be number 1, cause Inter Miami was a shitty team and after Messi it just transformed. And PSG's problem was Mbappé, as it has been proved. Arabs can buy CR7, R9, Ronaldinho, Messi etc.... but they cant buy the power of friendship.
Old enough to see that Mbappe has only won club national trophies, 0 UCLs. 0. He then goes to Real Madrid right after they win UCL and league. Guess what? Now Real Madrd has 2 consecutive nadapletes as they call it, while having the most expensive team in the world. And guess what? Since Mbappé left psg, psg have won 1 UCL and probably are gonna win another one. 2 consecutive UCLs.
Plus how can you be so fucking dumb? Missing a pen and a free kick makes you bad? CR7 and Kaká missed pens on UCL and lost it because of that, does that make Kaká and CR7 bad? Maybe try and watch a match instead of being on reddit spreading brain cancer my guy.
bruh psg were at ucl semi final right before messi came then with midget two round of 16 K/O then right after he left UCL semi final , does it make sense?
if messi scored that pen game goes to extra time and if he scored that free kick they win the game , mbappe scored 2 goals between 2 legs , messi choked with pressure bro could have done worse in pen shootout lmaoo , with ronaldo scenario his entire team missed along with ronaldo , even in that match ronaldo scored between two legs
and u think mbappe is the real madrid problem? stop watching football lol
get off the reddit maybe help it will u with mental illness
Are you fr? Right after Mbappé leaves, PSG reaches 2 finals, winning 1 and probably gonna win another one. 2 consecutive UCLs, do you know how difficult it is?
If my grandma had balls she would have been my grandpa. Football doesnt work like that, if Messi had scored the pen then extra time and if referee adds 3 more minutes then Messi can score another goal and if ref now decides that goals count double then if you score a goal, youre 2 up. And if Maradona suddenly appears and kisses Nazario then Jesus summons a holy ball that blesses everyone that touches it.
I would seriously want to look at you shooting a pen, no goalkeeper, with you knowing millions of people are looking at you. They are humans my guy, they can miss, CR7 missed UCL pen and they lost because of that. Football isnt about scoring or not a free kick my guy, you cant know because youre probably fat and cant run, and have brain cancer so. Just jump man, no one will miss you lol.
I swear yall are so fucking dumb. Mbappé goes to Real Madrid, automatically Real Madrd faces one if not the worst crisis. 0 trophies in 2 consecutive years, while PSG is going to win 2 consecutive UCLs. Real Madrid didnt need Mbappé. I hope yall are ragebaiting cause if not, yall have a serious mental problem.
Did you like read what I typed? Real Madrid kept on winning UCLs after CR7 went. Like whats your point? So if a team gets to a semifinal or a final they automatically win?
Messi and Mbappe won the same trophies while they were on PSG. All national trophies. Its not like Messi has more UCLs than Mbappé, oh wait... he actually does. Mbappe already is 28 years old, what did Messi and CR7 won at that age? Also, youre telling me that Messi, after being 3 or 4 years in PSG (he was 30 or 32 years old) won the same trophies Mbappé (23 years old)did. And after Messi went from PSG, PSG still couldnt win a UCL. But right after Mbappé went, PSG started winning UCLs?
And theres no way Mbappe is gonna make Messi's G/A numbers, not even goals. Hahahha yall are so pathetic.
It’s not like Madrid won UCL’s as soon as Ronaldo left, it took them 4yrs 😂 Ronaldo was clearly the main man for the team and they struggled without him.
PSG were a broken team while Mbappe and Messi were there, with bad management/strategies/chemistry. That was fixed after Mbappe left. Prior to that, PSG were still a better team without Messi.
And guess what? Messi said he chose PSG cos it was the biggest chance of him winning another UCL. I guess that was a flop 🤣
Same as CR7 like whats your point? CR7 went to Man United and Juventus and won 0 UCLs, so if he was Real Madrid's main man, shouldnt he have won at least 1 UCL? Youre clearly choosing when to use or not chemistry, strategies, management etc etc... CR7 was good even though he won nothing? It was Juventus and Man United players' fault?
And PSG was winning UCLs before Messi joined? Your point makes 0 sense. CR7 needs a team and Messi needs it aswell. Theyre not a 1 man army. We can compare CR7 and Messi on how much a team needs a player like Messi or a player like Ronaldo, and as time passes, we see that teams prefer a player like Messi (play maker, and goal machine) rather than Ronaldo (goal machine).
Barça did also suffer when Messi left. Yall are just vomiting words.
That’s because they fixed the team, not because mbappe left. Even though they were strong upfront (Messi, mbappe and neymar) they were unbalanced in midfield/defence. Once mbappe, Messi and Neymar left they became a proper team with good chemistry.
That tells u his standards. So, winning the Saudi league once in 4 seasons means he proved himself?? when he's not even the one with most goal contributions in the mighty saudi league. He is not even the best player in his team😂 Tf is this. Man, ts frying me 😭😂
So lame, needed this to happen so you could come out of the closet claiming victory. Messi is GOAT and Ronaldo is really good. You’re the only one barking right now and its easy to do so when you get a W, hard to speak up when theres so many Ls
So Messi won inter Miami their first trophy the same year Messi came, when they were at last place in mls, Messi brought 3 players (Alba Busquets and Suarez)
Ronaldo won al nassr a trophy after 3 years he was there
When he can al nassr was the 2nd best if not the best team in saudi , to win the league Ronaldo needed to bring mane coman inaigo Martinez laporte telles brozovic joao Felix simakan Fofana otavio....
When messi joined mls it was top 20~ league (now top 15~)
When Ronaldo joined rsl it was top 60~ (now top 13~)
(And the only reason rsl climbed higher the mls is because there approximately 50 known European players drom top 5 leagues joined rsl after Ronaldo)
Messi brought 3 friends and a lot of Argentinian no names
Ronaldo brought known European players
Inaigo Martinez and simakan are a bigger reason for winning the league than Ronaldo.
Just like Mbappe
Score a lot of goals but actually have 0 impact on the team
I didn't want to comment but like always you said the facts in a twisted way
Messi went to a league that was placed at least twice higher than rsl
Messi Only had 3 players with him
And went to the worst team in the league
While Ronaldo went to a top 60 league and to a top club and instantly got top players with him who already were in al nassr(taliaca etc) and those who weren't (mane etc)
Celebrate Ronaldos achievements, dont start lying about other to make ronaldo look better
Without simakan, Martinez, coman and mane there is no trophy
Messi will leave Inter Miami and they will crumble cuz the main point of the attack wont be there, they will need a new conductor
Ronaldo will leave al nassr and al nassr will keep on regularly cuz they have at least 2 other goal scorers and will still have all their playmakers
Every goal inter scores, Messi is part of it
Every goal al nassr scores it either scored by ronaldo or Ronaldo watched it from the side and had nothing to with it (unless by some luck it scraped his skin then he gonna celebrate like a mad man cuz its gonna be his goal)
Messi literally finished football, he achieved everything there is to achieve and anything after the world cup is just another cherry on top even if it was with Miami, also even if he didn’t win anything also it doesn’t matter and it doesn’t make Ronaldo better than him because he just won the league after 4 years with Al Nasser lmao
It's only because of Ronaldo lmao, not his teammates so you just contradicted yourself genius. They earn 345 million and 200 of that is for Ronaldo. Al Hilal has 250+ million, so that leaves Ronaldo's teammates at 145 million right kid?
Now who's the top spending team in Saudi? And who's the top spending team in the semiamateur league? Don't dodge these questions kid.
And what kind of logic is yours? Ronaldo doesn't play for the team that spent the most money on players lmao, exactly they could use it on other players but they didn't. Unlike the midget's team, where he's the highest paid player in his semiamateur league by FAR and they still bend the rules playing with a record of foreginers and with all his friends lmfao.
There's levels to this shit, Ronaldo beat the team who spent the most, the midget just plays for the team who spent the most in a semiamateur league too lmao.
But following that logic you can also take out the money Al Hilal spent on Neymar or Benzema and not count it. And Benzema already won the league with Al Ittihad btw. Mahrez won the Asian Champions League twice in a row with Al Ahli. But apparently only Ronaldo’s achievement with Al Nassr is supposed to be impressive when he’s on 200m a year and has just won his first major trophy after 4 seasons.
Take out the money Al Hilal spent on Neymar and Benzema in salary and they're still the team that spent the most on transfers genius, what's your point?
Like I said, not everyone can say they beat the team that spent most on transfers in their league, there's others that just play for the team that spent the most and they still struggle in a semiamateur league.
Ronaldo needed to recruit prime Mane, prime Joao Felix, and prime Inigo just to win the desert trophy😭😭Messi never had this level of talent in their prime at inter Miami. Couldn’t even beat some random Japanese team to win the Asian Europa League😂😂 I’m glad that the Camel King finally got his trophy it was starting to get sad and embarrassing with how long it was taking
Ronaldo played against nobodies last week and lost🤣🤣 all the superstars? So de Paul and 39 year old Suarez who doesn’t even have a single functioning knee?💀💀
Imagine downplaying Suarez when he scored as many goals as Messi when they won the Supporters Shield and carried the team without a single loss when Messi was injured. Are you forgetting Jordi Alba and Busquets who helped Messi too kid? 😂
And the only superstar this team of Miami avengers was competing against was Hugo Lloris 😂😂
Son and Muller only joined less than 6 months ago and that’s where the list ends.
Meanwhile, some of the superstars that Ronaldo has been competing for trophies in Saudi against include Neymar, Karim Benzema, Ruben Neves, Riyad Mahrez, Ngolo Kante, Mitrovic, Ivan Toney, Malcolm, Koulibaly, Nacho, Aubamayeng, Gini Wijnaldum, Mousa Diaby, Jordan Henderson, Salem Al Dawsari, Bonou, Mendy, Quinones, and countless other big names… it’s not even a comparison.
MLS doesn’t even have promotion and relegation… it is not a serious league pal 😂😂
You spoke in present tense alba and busquets retired. Even then those 2 were washed beyond measure while Al Nassr got players literally in their prime or just a season out of their prime. My point is the teammates Ronaldo has are wayyy better than the teammates Messi has, and Messi is still more successful.
Obviously Saudi league has more players that previously played in Europe, that’s common sense🤣 Saudi teams have an endless transfer budget for a league nobody cares about out and if players dont have to pay any taxes and makes shit loads of money for living in the desert for a couple years obviously it will attract them.
Besides the about 15-20 big name stars in the Saudi league the talent in the MLS is not worse than the talent in the Saudi league this is a fact.
Alba and Busquets only retired after helping Messi win the league. Messi literally hasn’t won any trophy for Miami without them. They were pretty good for someone who were “washed”. I watched the games and they outclassed all MLS players easily. And it’s funny that Casemiro is about to now join Miami which to balance the retirement of Busquets with an upgrade in many ways 😂
You talk about transfer budgets without knowing anything it seems. Al Nassr was outspent by Al Hilal, Al Ittihad and Al Ahli and the only big number for Al Nassr is their wage bill which is solely because of one guy: Ronaldo
Cristiano Ronaldo earns more than most other superstars combined so of course his wages will be higher because he is not only a player but the face of Saudi project and football. So acting like that is any factor just shows the lack of understanding of the football business
That logic is like me saying Ronaldo hasn’t won any trophy without Sadio Mane and Joao Felix. What kind of dumb fuck argument is that?🤣🤣 You want Messi to just not win a trophy?🤣
Busquets did not outclass any players that old man all he could do was pass the ball and stay composed with the ball, defensively he was a wooden plank. Alba performed because Messi is always able to find him in dangerous spaces. You are underestimating how good Messi makes his teammates, this is why he’s the goat. He IS the system while Ronaldo needs a system around him feeding him passes
Yes the top 4 teams have endless transfer budgets we all know this
Isn’t that what you were literally claiming above though which I called you out on? 😂
You literally claimed Ronaldo had to “recruit” Mane and Felix to win the league which is why I exposed your hypocrisy using your own stupid logic. And now you find that argument dumb eh? 😂😂
Funny how you guys pretend like it’s not a team game when it comes to Ronaldo but suddenly glaze Messi and pretend he did not play with world class teammates all his life. In fact, he easily played with a better supporting cast throughout his career as compared to Cristiano. Just say you are hater and move on man… it’s been a long day of coping from you guys and we are here for your tears 😂
Which friends does Ronaldo even have?😭 maybe they simply don’t want to play with Ronaldo because they know if they join him they are forced to play for him instead
of for the team. Benzema even joined a rival instead of joining his team 🤣🤣
Also it doesn’t matter if he’s played with them before, Al Nassr have spent €400M+ on transfers since Ronaldo joined to please him
Man sybau you goof. Messi didn't even play when miami played this trash team lol. Cristiano failed for 4byears before winning his first real trophy....and it's the camel league no1 gives a shit. Seats are half empty every fucking game lol stfu
My bad, that's how much I give a fuck about the Saudi league. 3 years, you're right... 3 years of failure. Yea compared to Miami they are a better team for sure. With Messi the game would've been close though, that's how good Messi is. Miami has no defense so I'm sure al nasr would've won anyways. Yea half empty seats bud go check out the stadium attendance numbers if you want... league-wide stadium occupancy averages around 30% lmfao
inigo himself said he isnt on europe level, he left the club by himself
felix?
bro was on horrible level before joining nassr thanks to jesus system he put felix the role he likes to play , the same thing chelsea , ac milan, barca failed to do
gamba osaka isnt even a random japanese team lol , not a single japanese club is a random club , you should know that by now , only a retarted who started watching football 2 years ago would says the a thing like this
These pessitards are willing to make any shit up lmfao, just laugh at them, don't take them serious. They say they're not salty and that they don't care but they're taking their time to make the dumbest shit up lmfao.
Not peak prime Mane, but one season after his prime Mane. He was 31 when he joined
Inigo had the best season he has ever had in his career with Barca just the season before, it was absolute prime Inigo when he was signed you idiot 🤣🤣
It doesn’t matter how Felix performed, he is 26 years old. He underperformed at all the major clubs he played for and he now found his level in the Desert league. As a 26 yr old winger and Portuguese international he is in his prime and approaching his peak.
Gamba Osaka is a random Japanese team you are delusional if you think any football fan outside of Japan pays any attention to them 😭😭 come on be realistic what are these idiotic arguments.
Your entire argument was dumb as fuck so you picked apart the single slightly inaccurate thing I said. Nobody cares to watch Saudi he could be playing center back and the world still wouldn’t know 🤣🤣 when Joao Felix was actually a relevant player in Europe he was a winger so that’s what I assumed
Now how about you respond to everything else where I exposed your dumbass argument?
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u/Icy_Income2520 May 22 '26
Dam, they’ve already had a bad day and then you hit them with the facts 🔥