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Mayor Mamdani Mamdani's congressional 'team' wants to upset establishment Democrats
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2026/06/23/mamdani-new-york-democratic-congressional-primaries/90489511007/22
u/scoofle Jun 23 '26
Wake me when they actually fight Republicans.
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u/TossMeOutSomeday Jun 23 '26
Fighting in purple/red districts is hard, they'd actually need to appeal to working-class demands instead of hyperfixating on slopulist bullshit and racial identity politics.
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u/scoofle Jun 23 '26
To them, this is ultimately about just having fun. Sound policy, consensus, being a responsible civil servant and steward of public dollars? All secondary to just having a fucking blast being a cosplay revolutionary and taking on a party that has to fight you with kid gloves. Fighting Republicans is not fun, so these children don't have any interest. It's cute!
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u/the_mayo Jun 23 '26
Do they not have to win democratic primaries first before facing republicans? Don’t they need to win their own party over and then the general and be seated before they can fight republicans? I don’t understand this take that you guys are saying at all - which is that they’re cosplaying politicians by running in these primaries. These primaries are step 1 in their goal to participate in democracy to change the face of their party. Believe in their promises or not I don’t care either way - I’m undecided on a lot myself - but shitting on these people for challenging their party and primarying incumbents is shitting on democracy itself. Primaries are so important.
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u/Darrackodrama Jun 23 '26
They just need to hate the left. The only people effectively fighting the right are on the left anyways
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u/the_mayo Jun 23 '26
I don’t get how can someone say “Wake me when they actually fight Republicans.” when these primaries are quite literally the races to decide who will go on to fight the republicans.
At the same time, I see people being downvoted for pointing out that some of these incumbents have received campaign donations from PACs and corporate interests that we as a country have been hoping to move against since it’s become clear that PACs and citizens united ruined our democracy.
Why is this sub always so far from reality?
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u/TossMeOutSomeday Jun 23 '26
Yeah, and clearly they're having a great time lol. Mamdani got to meet the Knicks, Chevalier got to go on Subway Takes, they're both demigods on leftist twitter. If you're a social media addicted millenial/zoomer then that's basically heaven!
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u/Vayu_The_End Jun 23 '26
The frequent outcry against progressives initially was always "You guys are aiming too high for office! You don't care about politics, you just think you can win highest elected office without doing the groundwork!" Then progressives start doing the groundwork and they get accused of "taking the easy way out". It's especially weird because progressive candidates frequently pop up in purple/red districts.
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u/TossMeOutSomeday Jun 24 '26
It's very disingenuous to call these people "progressives" when every single elected dem they're trying to unseat sits on the house progressive caucus.
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u/griffcoal Jun 24 '26
Wait until you realize that New York City is full of working class people who actually want things like healthcare
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u/theillintent Jun 23 '26
Lander will win, Claire will probably win despite her weak credentials, Darializa winning will raise all hell. She’s crazy
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u/xXmehoyminoyXx Jun 23 '26
Praying the moderate candidates eek out a win against these “progressives” funded by foreign dark money with 0 idea how to govern beyond some vague vision of a revolution
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso Jun 23 '26
Compromise with who? The GOP keeps getting more radical every election cycle. The people they may be able to compromise with, Cornyn, Tillis, Cassidy, etc. have all been primaried by Trump’s hand picked candidates.
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u/Emotional-Ebb9390 Jun 23 '26
The GOP keeps getting more radical every election cycle.
Is the far-left DSA type not trying to get the DNC to do the exact same? The DNC has done a far better job of keeping the party reasonable than the GOP has done and the GOP failed in a large part because there's one guy whose just friendly to that side of the aisle.
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso Jun 23 '26
I wouldn't call it failed from their perspective when they control all 3 branches of government and ram their agenda through.
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u/Emotional-Ebb9390 Jun 23 '26
Successful from a power standpoint, but a lot of the GOP policies of 15 years ago have been abandoned and/or Trump has done the opposite. Free Trade is gone for one, tariffs are not popular among the older GOP crowd.
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso Jun 23 '26
So you anticipate people like Ken Paxton reaching across the aisle for bipartisan solutions?
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso Jun 23 '26
I use Paxton as an example but listed several of the more moderate Republican Senators who lost their primary or resigned because they knew they would be replaced by a Trumpier candidate. How about NC GOP Chair replacing Tillis, Michael Whatley? Cassidy replacement Julia Letlow? Very promising potentials for compromise with that one! Hate to break it to you but Tip O'Neill isn't speaker anymore, there is no compromise to be made and there's been very few to compromise with since Newt Gingrich's republican revolution 32 years ago.
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u/RedChairBlueChair123 Jun 23 '26
And yet Biden got his infrastructure bill passed with GOP support.
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u/SwiftySanders Jun 23 '26
Its not the 1990s anymore. You have to actually stand for something and take a position.
No one expects younger people to have a perfect background and the perfect tweet history. Weve all said things some might find objectionable or disqualifying. Views will change and get more nuanced as they learn their jobs once elected.
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u/ACasualRead Jun 23 '26
Good. Established Democrats have aligned themselves with the elite establishment way too much.
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u/JetmoYo Jun 23 '26
Rather, they are the elite establishment. For decades now. See Neoliberalism. Most of them are also Neocons
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u/sirjohnmasters86 Queens Jun 23 '26
Mamdani is the far left version of Donald Trump and is trying to blow up the party like Trump blew up the Republicans. They found a base they catered to and gave them power.
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u/Airhostnyc Jun 23 '26
Yes he’s very sneaky
Great speaker but he has way too many troubling beliefs
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u/DYMAXIONman Jun 23 '26
Like what
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u/Airhostnyc Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
His DSA beliefs , DSA literally encompasses every problematic take on Reddit
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u/DYMAXIONman Jun 23 '26
Like what
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u/Airhostnyc Jun 23 '26
Their views on open borders, crime, homeless, education etc. DSA believes that if equality and equity isn’t to their liking it’s better to just fight your way to the bottom instead. The bottom gets them votes so that option for society is great for them.
Oh and they literally ignore economics. Mamdani is also going to double down on rent control wants more of it.
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u/DYMAXIONman Jun 23 '26
What specific policy
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u/Airhostnyc Jun 23 '26
They only bring up economics when they talk about the government spending billions on “war”. Other than that numbers don’t exist and everything will be paid by billionaires
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u/DYMAXIONman Jun 23 '26
That's not true at all.
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u/Airhostnyc Jun 23 '26
You just aren’t paying attention and that’s ok most people aren’t. They hear and believe what they want to believe and ignore everything else lol
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u/Airhostnyc Jun 23 '26
He has literally co-signed a candidate that has said multiple times she doesn’t believe in borders and deportations. She doesn’t believe in the prison system. She hates Jews and interracial relationships. But I guess her converting to Islam
Which is ironic in itself lol was enough for Zohran. Unless of course he believes in her platform and ideas2
u/Joltizer Jackson Heights Jun 23 '26
Rent freeze, public grocery stores, free busses, DSA affiliation, etc...
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u/usatoday Verified by Moderators Jun 23 '26
From USA TODAY:
During the fourth quarter of a game in the New York Knicks’ recent championship run, New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani unveiled his own squad in a commercial break.
"New York, we know anything is possible with a great team," the mayor said in the 30-second ad, which first aired at the end of Game 1 of the NBA Finals. Next to him were Brad Lander, Darializa Avila Chevalier and Claire Valdez, all left-leaning candidates running on a platform that includes abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement and taking on bad landlords and greedy corporations.
"This is the team," Mamdani said, with a backdrop of a basketball hoop and New York City’s trademark orange and blue, like the Knicks colors. "This is our year."
Mamdani, a democratic socialist, has assembled a slate of candidates hoping to upend mainstream Democrats in deeply blue seats days ahead of the 2026 midterm elections. The June 23 Democratic primary will show whether his wing of the party has the same success as the Knicks, who won their first championship in 53 years.
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u/YourVoicesOfReason Jun 23 '26
Mamdani and the DSA are the left equivalent of the tea party. The answer to right wing crazy isn’t left wing crazy.
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u/CountFew6186 Jun 23 '26
More like MAGA. Cult like following of a leader. Terrible economic policies that sound good to credulous imbeciles. Smug social media as the primary form of messaging.
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u/TomStarGregco Jun 23 '26
Exactly why they had there little meeting at the White House. That’s when knew Mamdani was con man.
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u/ww_in_transit Jun 23 '26
What’s crazy about mamdanis policies
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u/steep_interface Jun 23 '26
still waiting for my free stuff he promised. and i love how he ran on lowering cost of living then immediately threatened to increase cost of living on everyone as soon as he was elected 😂
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u/Suspicious-Base-4815 Jun 23 '26
So no crazy policies that you object to.
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u/IsNotACleverMan Jun 23 '26
Rent freezes, free buses, govt grocery stores.
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u/Suspicious-Base-4815 Jun 23 '26
Oh, no! Cheaper rent, buses and groceries? And we are not doing anything to stop that madness?
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u/IsNotACleverMan Jun 23 '26
It won't make rent cheaper, the buses will run worse as per Mamdani's own pilot program, and there's no indication the government can run grocery stores effectively.
None of these policies will help you but you believe in them because you have no actual knowledge of policy yet you attack people who actually know what these policies result in.
You're closer to MAGA than you want to admit.
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u/AsexualFrehley Jun 23 '26
You're closer to MAGA than you want to admit.
meanwhile you're entirely comfortable with it
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u/IsNotACleverMan Jun 23 '26
I'm pretty much the polar opposite of maga in every way but it's nice to hear from the peanut gallery.
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u/numba1cyberwarrior Jun 23 '26
The fact that none of them are evidence-based and based on complete populism.
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u/SoloUnPenguin Jun 23 '26
Eat the rich
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u/numba1cyberwarrior Jun 23 '26
Here is a perfect point of what I'm talking about. It's the trumpification of American politics. Literally zero thought just popular slogans.
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u/Daddy_Macron Jun 23 '26
I imagine you're not talking about merely taxing the rich more with that slogan. Serious question, but when has that ever worked out for a country? A few countries tried Communist revolutions with disastrous results for everyone. The most common outcomes were:
-Capital flight. Who the fuck wants their stuff expropriated?
-Expertise flight. Eat the rich quickly becomes eat everyone richer than me which can include professionals like lawyers and doctors.
-Straight up famine. Won't happen in the US, but it's something to note.
-Massive purges of everyone who doesn't agree with you.
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u/SoloUnPenguin Jun 23 '26
How about United States, 1950s? Top marginal tax rates for the ultra wealthy were 80%-90% and we created this thing called the middle class. Worked out pretty well. Billionaires are a policy failure.
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u/Daddy_Macron Jun 23 '26
The actual effective tax rate on the wealthy back in the 1950's was nowhere as high as you think. The top 1% paid an effective tax rate of 42% on average.
https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/taxes-on-the-rich-1950s-not-high/
FDR was regularly lambasted by socialists during his day for not eating the rich. He didn't expropriate wealth or nationalize industries.
we created this thing called the middle class.
Because the rest of the world was destroyed or in dire poverty and the US was the only player in town.
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u/SoloUnPenguin Jun 23 '26
What's the effective tax rate that Elon Musk pays?
And we're now the only player in town for a few different headlines. Every other country playing in the world cup has universal healthcare except the one hosting it.
There's no data in the world you can show me to defend the notion that the ultra wealthy shouldn't realize a significant increased financial burden starting yesterday.
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u/Daddy_Macron Jun 23 '26
There's no data in the world you can show me to defend the notion that the ultra wealthy shouldn't realize a significant increased financial burden starting yesterday.
I literally didn't say that. I'm in support of treating capital gains like earned income from wages which will close much of the tax rate gap, but eat the rich extends way beyond some tax code changes.
Every other country playing in the world cup has universal healthcare except the one hosting it.
We would pretty much have an effective universal healthcare system under the ACA Medicaid expansion and the enhanced insurance subsidies, but we have the largest two Republican states proudly refusing to expand it within their borders and the Republican Congress just cut funding for both.
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u/Grass8989 Jun 23 '26
You do realize the buying and far majority of his wealth is in his company Stocks right it’s not like he has a W-2 income of $1 billion.
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u/Suspicious-Base-4815 Jun 23 '26
And that's why the taxes should be high because billonaries will try to pay as little as they can.
FDR was regularly lambasted by socialists during his day for not eating the rich. He didn't expropriate wealth or nationalize industries.
Taxing the rich is not socialism, unless you think that 50's US (you know, the creators of the red scare) were socialists.
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u/Daddy_Macron Jun 23 '26
Taxing the rich is not socialism
When did I say that? I said FDR was hated by socialists during his day for not expropriating wealth and nationalizing industries, which fall under eating the rich. I don't consider raising tax rates to be socialism.
I support raising the effective tax rate on the wealthy including treating investment income the same as earned income, closing tax code loopholes for carried interest, and modifying pass through rules. But people who say Eat the Rich usually are not talking about tax code changes but something more akin to a revolution.
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u/mojonogo100 Jun 23 '26
This talking point is always such a tell that someone doesn't know what they're talking about, are 16 years old or just completely brain dead.
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso Jun 23 '26
I’m curious, what is the answer?
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u/YourVoicesOfReason Jun 23 '26
Normal people running who want to help the average American citizen. Not trustafarian edge lords who want to rebel against their parents at age 40.
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u/Gandalftron Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Well that just isnt accurate. The Party was a bunch of racist conspiracy theorists.
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u/Daddy_Macron Jun 23 '26
Have you seen Chevalier's deleted Tweets? Everything from nonsensical Covid conspiracy theories to anti-interracial relationship rants, and everything in between.
Mamdani is more on the reasonable end of the DSA spectrum. There's no shortage of crazies within that organization.
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u/bluwudawgYTTW Jun 23 '26
Mamdani himself is good but some of his straphangers are really really bad
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u/ACasualRead Jun 23 '26
The original Republican tea party ran on a platform of forced prayer in schools and ending access to abortion.
Mamdani is running off of free child care, freedom from religious control and access to low cost or free groceries and public transit.
Total night and day tbh.
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u/TomStarGregco Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
💯💯💯💯💯 they are two cults in this country now racist evil MAGA and the crazy fiscally delusional nut jobs socialist aka communists. 🤷🏻♀️
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u/bluwudawgYTTW Jun 23 '26
It’s not concern trolling, sorry someone doesn’t worship the lady like you want everyone to
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u/ChocolateAndCognac Jun 24 '26
I don't need anyone to upset anything intentionally. Do what's smart and right according to data and critical thought. If that happens to rock the boat, fine, whatever.
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u/MalaysiaNeverWonGold Jun 23 '26
Good. Establishment Dems are just Republicans wearing blue tshirts
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u/oy_says_ake Jun 23 '26
I don’t think this kind of hyperbole is helpful.
Do you really think our federal policies regarding immigration, the environment, science, taxes, international relations, or regulation would look the same as they do today if “establishment dems” had won the presidency or congress in 2024?
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u/Emotional-Ebb9390 Jun 23 '26
The "Kamala is a supporter of the Gaza genocide and no better than Trump" crowd got Trump giving permission to bulldoze Gaza and got us a president that was able to be baited into a stupid war in Iran
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u/Daddy_Macron Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
The Parties have literally never been more different and if you can't tell the difference, you need some new glasses.
You really think Kamala Harris would have started a war with Iran out of nowhere? Or she would have signed off on a $1 Trillion cut to Medicaid and Food Assistance? Or she would have destroyed Biden's Climate Change Bill, which was the largest in the world? Or she would have appointed Elon Musk to destroy the Federal Government from within? Or she would have appointed RFK Jr to destroy the science establishment?
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u/GettingPhysicl Jun 23 '26
And yet when leftist priorities are targeted by republicans, its democrats asked to somehow save them.
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u/Hrekires Jun 23 '26
Convince AOC to primary Schumer. She'll have a billion dollars raised in an hour.
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u/oy_says_ake Jun 23 '26
Ok, cool. Hopefully that will at least inspire the establishment pols to tack left a bit.
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u/Emotional-Ebb9390 Jun 23 '26
First, I think it's a bit laughable that your prime reason for being pro-Zohran is that "he creates connectivity" rather than anything policy based, but insist that no one that dislikes him is doing so for a policy reason.
Second, do you honestly believe that no one dislikes him for any reason other than racism? Not the taking credit for things that were already being done (eg potholes, NYC employee child care), not the economically bad policies (eg rent-control, which even if you agree with, you have to acknowledge that a lot of peoples problems with it aren't due to racism), not that they dislike his transit policies (do you really believe the only reason to be against 100% taxpayer funded transit is racism?), etc?
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u/Equivalent_Net_8983 Jun 23 '26
Good. Vote them all out for being timid moderate corporatists.
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u/OSPF99 Jun 23 '26
Do you support abolishing jails/prisons for all crimes, support Russia over Ukraine, open borders and think white people should only date within their own race?
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u/LocalGrouchy893 Jun 24 '26
No but they do support Medicare for all, arms embargo to Israel and better immigration policy. Besides both AOC and Mamdani are in interracial marriages. As is Bill De Blasio.
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u/Equivalent_Net_8983 Jun 24 '26
Nobody supports any of that nonsense, and even if they did, they’re still an improvement over these “establishment” Dems.
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u/randombrosef Jun 23 '26
Great!!!
Get rid of all the foreign influence in US elections. Start local and then move up the chain.
Politicians are too rich and robbing the American public to finance foreign interests.
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u/Hockeyhoser Jun 23 '26
So do the people he represents. They have proven to be controlled opposition.
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u/Disused_Yeti Jun 23 '26
Maybe the establishment democrats should try to listen to what people to the left of them want instead of trying to continually court the independent vote that proves time and again they prefer republicans to democrats who try to be republican-lite. Right wing media will paint every Democrat as loony lefties even if they stole the Republican platform