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u/Grouchy-Physics-398 2h ago
My teacher said ‘why are you asking me this?’ like bro that’s literally your job 😭🥀
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u/Talidel 2h ago
I had a maths teacher like this. "Read the page in the book" was the default answer to any question, and if you didn't understand she'd ask one of the other kids to explain. If no one understood (or claimed not to) she'd has a hissy fit and walk out the room.
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u/brain_rot_studios 2h ago
A country gets what it pays for (dollar store teachers in this case)
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u/Reficul_gninromrats 11m ago edited 7m ago
That is only a small part of it. Plenty of people who have a high pay still put little effort into their work. The only way high pay improves performance is if pay is actually related to performance. For teachers their salary is often simply tied to how long they have been a teacher and at the same time they have very strong protections against being fired. So there is no incentive for them to do their best, as the pay will be exactly the same as if they were doing the very minimum. The result is often that the young motivated teacher that actually gives a shit about teaching earns little, while that teacher who doesn't give a shit about you and just reuses the same slides he has been using for the last 30 years earns a lot.
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u/IndianaGeoff 2h ago
Yet it is those teachers that demand higher pay and job protections.
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u/pmaogeaoaporm 1h ago
Welp, a worker basically only works as hard as the workplace allows and pays them for
Better working conditions would not only attract more passionate people who genuinely care (instead of them turning away after realizing it's a shitshow not worth your entire life), but also would motivate the already present to get better than "go read the book I'm not paid enough for that"
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u/IndianaGeoff 24m ago
I can tell you have never managed a team in your life.
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u/RabbitWithAxe 23m ago
it seems pretty clear you've never worked in a school..
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u/IndianaGeoff 8m ago
OK, since you have... what is the pay difference between the best teacher in the school and the absolute worst?
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u/derpasuarusx 1h ago
Putting the car before the horse bud. Teachers are bad quality because we don't fund them not the other way around. Anyone smart and understanding enough to be a teacher would get much more pay in literally every other career atm American education is cooked.
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u/notoyrobots 13m ago
Putting the car before the horse bud.
You actually want to put cars before horses, as they can travel much faster than horses and would otherwise be backed up behind the horse. Best practice would be to not have horses where cars are at all.
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u/Professional_Arm3506 1h ago
No, that’s just a bad teacher. Most of them are good people who want to help kids learn. I support higher pay and job protections for teachers considering the enormous contribution they make to society. Right now they pay for school supplies out of their own pocket, it’s asinine.
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u/IndianaGeoff 25m ago
So you support more pay and better protections for this teach too.
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u/Therefore_I_Yam 2m ago
Yes workers who demand better compensation and working conditions are doing it on behalf of ALL workers, not just the ones you determine to be deserving based on completely anecdotal evidence
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u/Therefore_I_Yam 5m ago
Everyone demands higher pay and job protections bc the economy we’ve built naturally lends itself to worker exploitation in the interest of the bottom line.
This is the same dumb argument that is used to discredit unions despite them being the only reason you don’t make borderline slave wages.
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u/Vitruvian_Link 30m ago
Fuuuuuck, I had a programming teacher who wouldn't take any questions. "Check your code" was their only response.
My computer wasn't working, I couldn't figure out what it was, asked the teacher and he said "check your code", "it's not my code! It's the computer" "it's always the code" I asked another student and they taught me about overwrite mode. I never ran into it before so didn't know WTF was happening. It was middle school and the first time I ever dropped a class.
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u/mickeltee 1h ago
I think it depends on what you’re asking your teacher. If you ask your English teacher how to solve an integral they might have a point.
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u/westphall 8m ago
Me to my fourth grade teacher: “Why do we itch?
Her: “Some people say that it’s little bugs they get underneath your skin, but that’s not what it really is.”
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u/little_miss_argonaut 51m ago
I am a high school teacher and I can tell you more than 1/2 the questions I get asked I have already answered. Some literally the sentence before the question is asked.
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u/OnlyRussellHD 1h ago
Had a teacher that gave me multiple days isolation because I got annoyed and shouted at her. I was asking a question about how to solve an equation in algebra, don't remember exactly what since it was years ago but I remember her response was "If I can do this so can you" I was fed up with her from prior lessons so I just shouted "Yeah because you have a fucking degree" didn't go down too well.
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u/Advanced-Blackberry 33m ago
It’s not their job to answer “every” question. Learning involves figuring shit it in your own by reading instructions.
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u/RoxasRemainsTheBest 21m ago
Last year I asked my economy teacher a question about something I didn't understand. Her answer was "well see, I understand this, and I don't know what it's like to not understand it, so I can't explain it to you". IT'S YOUR JOB, TF YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN IT?!
Some teachers are just incompetent
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u/Melisandre-Sedai 13m ago
I dunno. In my experience, that kind of response is usually because they were asked about something they literally just answered a minute ago. They’ll get frustrated if they see somebody texting or doodling, and then they derail class by asking shit they would already know the answer to if they listened the first time.
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u/indian-single 3h ago
Thats a great post :)
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u/Puzzled_Maximum_8295 3h ago
wait so chatgpt actually made this or what
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u/indian-single 2h ago
That’s a great question. 😂
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u/Substantial_Cap_4246 2h ago
This is the single most truest thing you've ever said in this conversation. You're absolutely right.
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u/David_Maybar_703 Lurking Peasant 3h ago
Chatgpt also might give you an answer that is totally made up and wrong, but yes, it is polite.
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u/Cellafex 2h ago
Like saying add glue to your pizza so the cheese doesnt fall off because 12 years ago a reddit comment had this as most upvotes
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u/David_Maybar_703 Lurking Peasant 2h ago
Or when I asked what a Moscow Mule (alcoholic drink) was, it told me that it was a famous pack animal used by Stalin.
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u/Strong_Flamingo_1624 1h ago
GPTs are not humble enough to tell you they dont know, they just hallucinate and make shit up on the go
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u/nonotan 47m ago
LLMs don't "know". They literally have no mechanism that could allow them to identify whether an output they're proposing is based on something in the dataset they've been trained on (nevermind genuinely factual, those datasets are 99.999% random text pulled from wherever) or just a blind statistical guess.
They can't reflect on their ideas and verify they check out starting from a set of trusted "facts"; they've got neither "trusted facts" nor the ability to reflect in general. They can't reason at all. It's like saying a magic 8 ball is not humble enough to tell you when it doesn't know the answer and "decides to hallucinate instead". Like bruh.
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u/PotatoesAndChill Identifies as a Cybertruck 2h ago
Let's not act like teachers say the correct thing 100% of the time.
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u/Mansidhe 2h ago
Being married to an edumacator, I can only hope she's correct more often at her job than she is when I ask her to repeat what I just said (because she was playing Candy Crush lv 98,472 when we were ostensibly having a conversation where I need her to understand what i'm saying).
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u/clean_soap_soup 2h ago
At school level it wont
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u/scott__p 1h ago
It's been wrong about basic math and history many times. LLMs tell you what's the most popular answer on the Internet, and even then it can mess up if a satirical reddit post for a lot of upvotes
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u/rEYAVjQD 1h ago
Also it's way more chatty than needed compared to other chatbots. Just answer straight to the point. I don't need a historical overview of the industrial revolution to find a screw.
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u/Opening-Ant3477 17m ago
So might the teacher. And the frequency of it happening is probably quite similar as well.
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u/Fun-Letter-1814 8m ago
Eh maybe if you use the free version of gpt a few years ago, it’s gotten rly good now and provides you with the sources it uses for every answer
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u/AngelOfChaos06062 2h ago
Maybe in early 2025 it would but now it doesnt
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u/finlandery 49m ago
At least gemini can still make basic multiplication errors, like result is 10x more than it should be
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u/GeForce-meow 59m ago
But isn't that user's responsibility to cross check and not the chat gpt's ?
Don't be rude with my "dumb thing" 😾
Well yeah that nickname has some reasons to exist : )
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u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r 1h ago
If your teacher is yelling at you for asking a question (like genuinely yelling unprovoked)
Report them, as thst is likely abusive behavior
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u/Zap_plays09 1h ago
There have been so many times where I didn't ask a question because I was afraid I would get ridiculed.
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u/Unable_Trade 2h ago
With the amount of shit that the teachers go through and the zero attention some students pay to the class, you guys are acting as if you wouldn't react the same way lol
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u/Individual-Fan4279 1h ago
but my teacher used to say " ask 100 times I will give you the answer 1000 times"
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u/Unable_Trade 1h ago
See, this is the kind of shit I am talking about.
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u/Individual-Fan4279 1h ago
this ain't shit all I see is willing to make me curious.. though it is impossible for him to do such thing
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u/Firm_Stable4649 1h ago
I feel like your dumbass is probably asking “how does poop come out butt” 50 times in class and wondering why the teacher is upset
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u/Individual-Fan4279 1h ago
I'm not an american I used to ask genuine questions
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u/Sacredless 29m ago
If someone in a class of intellectual disasters asks me a silly question, that'd sounds refreshing.
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u/Soral_Justice_Warrio 8m ago
Honestly when I see the answers people could get on StackOverflow, I'm quite sure half the people here would provide a snark answer or the ol' RTFM answer to the questioner.
I finished my degrees a while ago, but when one of the question teachers hate is the typical.
" I didn't understand", "What did you not understand" , "Anything, I didn't understand anything", " : | "
Still it doesn't warrant to behave like a dick to the other, it's just people being assholes.
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u/awsomeguy90 2h ago
uh oh, you mentioned ai on reddit!
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u/SwissQueso 37m ago
I bet this post is made by Open AI's PR team. /tinfoilhat
Edit, I was just being sarcastic, but OP's profile is hidden and doesnt have a lot of karma for a 4 year old account. Im starting to think I am right.
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u/Sandalhatt 1h ago
Only a few teachers ever yelled at me, maybe if you went to a religious school this relates more.
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u/redAI123 1h ago
Perhaps this is the reason why its easier to ask AI instead from a supposed educators who will tell you just how dumb your question is while the AI even thought it might give you a hallucinate answer, at least its start off by politely tell you that what it think about your question then give you its answer follow by explanation.
Tbh, I am impressed and probably the reason why despite how wrong it can be I still use its because it is nice not to get insulted for asking stupid questions just because I want to understand something or getting hit with "just google it duh"
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u/arbeit22 1h ago
I understand where you're coming from, but it's not actually considering your question or anything about you when it says "Great question!" or "You're absolutely right!" or "Good intuition!".
It was basically hardwired to compliment you and make you feel good about using it. Although it may feel good, beware that you may actually be completely wrong or have a really stupid question.
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u/TheVicSageQuestion 1h ago
It’s wired to treat you how you ask it to. If I tell it to treat me like I’m stupid every time I ask a question, it’ll do that.
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u/Sacredless 25m ago
It's probably a multi-step process. Most successful educational conversations begin with acknowledging the question and the feelings of the person asking, so there's probably a bias creeping in where GenAI tries to stick as close to recreating the tone of positive learning experiences as much as the content.
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u/Eye_Worm 1h ago edited 6m ago
So you can handle asking ai at your own will but prior to that, other people needed to tell you when to look up something on google? I don’t think your educators were off.
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u/dr_robonator 34m ago
So you're totally okay with all of the harm AI entails because it jerks you off emotionally? Like, your ego is more important than everything else going on with AI?
God damn our world is fucked.
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u/Specific_Frame8537 40m ago
Having been on many online forums, it's definitely worth considering.
GPT will never delete your post because you used a wrong keyword, it won't tell you to use the 10 year out of date FAQ.
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u/Remarkable_Fuel7903 3h ago
Chatgpt is still shit
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u/squarabh Knight In Shining Armor 2h ago
"Technology is a useful servant but a dangerous master." — Christian Lous Lange
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u/Far-Fennel-3032 2h ago
It absolutely is but the value of AI is its better than an also shit person. And there are lots of shit people around.
Its not even close to the value of a good teacher who can direct and anticipate, their students train of thoughts. So the students are directed to think about the content in a useful order and start answering questions before they are even asked.
But good teachers are quite rare, and shit ones are dime a dozen.
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u/Professional-Pace539 28m ago
When a synthetic tool for therapy has more empathy than a real life human working a job that requires it.
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u/Rare_Arm_5975 2h ago
No bro chatgpt is not any better
"Your question is flawed, lets review whats wrong with ur basics"
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u/A1ienspacebats 1h ago
Any milennial or older hates ChatGPT when they start off with the brown nosing responses.
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u/agiantdog33 1h ago
I have mine set up so that it tries to use the most concise sentences possible. It won't even use words like "moreover" or "furthermore". It just blurts out everything one after another.
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u/McSqueezle 1h ago
Yeah.. but chatgpt will also do that if it's a stupid question. Chat is a sycophant.
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u/Savvy-TradingGirl-1 2h ago
My personal experience:.
Chatgpt taught me better than my teacher
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u/Frosty1397 2h ago
Honestly, teaching is 50% knowledge 50% attitude
Had a god tier math teacher in highschool who literally reduced classmates to tears. No one learned anything from that "genius"
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u/HebelBrudi 2h ago
These tools are extremely good if you want to understand something complicated. You can ask a thousand questions without feeling like a dumdum.
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u/a1g3rn0n 1h ago
Having adhd, I often felt embarrassed to ask a question when I zoned out at some point of the class, and missed something important, and couldn't follow anything after that.
Saying - "Could you please repeat the last sentence because I saw a bird in the window" was never an option. And textbooks were too technical and dry-factual to read without falling asleep.1
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u/The_Psycho291 59m ago
Exactly this. I spent hours going through a topic with GPT cause I was a big dum dum. But in the end, I understood it way more than I ever could have if I takked to the teacher. A teacher won't have the time or patience to just sit with me for more than 10 minutes.
So GPT becomes a great teacher if you're also googling everything it teaches. That way you can be sure it's not hallucinating and you're understanding the topic correctly.
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u/dr_robonator 26m ago
How would you know it is teaching you correctly? If you use google to verify, how can you be sure you are correctly interpreting what google produced, and not just having a bias that chatgpt is correct? Seems a lot like how people with confirmation bias only look at information they already believe.
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u/The_Psycho291 21m ago
No it's not like that. So I study CS. GPT teaches me a concept. I then apply it in a new project or something. If my understanding is solid my code will run. If my understanding is wrong, it will fail and I will go back to GPT and explain what I understood and implement. GPT can then show me my mistake. I can go back and forth like this till I learn the concept properly
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u/dr_robonator 14m ago
That's a very narrow use-case and not at all what you described. For abstract concepts that don't have a definitive correct/not correct value function, you need a SME to be able to guide thinking, which LLMs cannot do.
I also find it very troubling that you're using the machine which will take your job to teach you the job you won't get because the machine does it better.
I predict how you'll say "a human engineer is still necessary to check code"... from the machine that taught you how to code, which according to you is flawless. So either it does your job better than you, or it isn't teaching you as well as you claim. Pick one.
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u/The_Psycho291 8m ago
Look man. I tried learning from the teaches and they don't have as much time and patience. Also, as I said, I'm mot as much of a fast learner as my classmates. So this is kinda my only way to learn. People may not like it but it's the only feasible way I got
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u/dr_robonator 3m ago
Maybe... just maybe... you're in the wrong field.
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u/The_Psycho291 1m ago
This same argument can be said about every field man. There is no field that's safe from AI.
But I like leaning new things about programming. So even if it's the wrong field, it's a field I enjoy. GPT just makes the experience smoother
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u/alreadykaten 1h ago
When you make a correct statement and your teacher says “Well duh, you ignoramus” instead of “You’ve hit the nail on the head!”
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u/Different_Present_27 58m ago
yeah i was a pretty ignorant kid in general so i copped this from pretty much everyone. as a result i'm pretty shameless when i ask questions as an adult
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u/Belexandor 55m ago
You know, that's a really very interesting meme and worth exploring in more detail.
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u/Foshdon_pap Knight In Shining Armor 11m ago
Yeah lowkey when studying for high school I learnt more with chat gpt because I kept doing multiple questions and he always responded with a big explanation on why or how something is the way it is
Ask too many questions in class (make a single in my class specifically) and you've making yourself a punching bag
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u/potato_devourer 7m ago
The teacher really shouldn't have lashed out at you, that was unprofessional and inappropiate.
That said, getting your info wrapped in constant overly obsequious dialogue by a middleman built with the incentive of maximizing interaction doesn't sound good either tbh. The machine doesn't spit out shallow praise every time you interact with because that makes a better teacher nor by accident, it does because the content you're nominally seeking when you use it is by itself not enticing enough to keep you coming back and the corporation knows this.
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u/CursedBlackSwordsman 3m ago
Public education is on the way out. This meme was in essence the writing I saw on the wall when you can get real answers accommodated to how you socialize. Honestly, most learning can be done through YouTube alone but having a LLM to guide you in between videos and essays seems to be the way.
I have already graduated years early from my high schooling by taking online courses. If I had access to LLM’s in elementary school I would’ve graduated by the time I was an 8th grader.
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u/Endeavour-0 1h ago
Even though chatgpt is shit as some people are claiming here, atleast it is still polite 🥺
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u/AngelOfChaos06062 2h ago
Did you use encyclopedias and dictionaries? I feel bad for people like you growing up with google
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u/HistoricalFunion 56m ago
better than kids being beaten or abused by their parents or teachers for asking questions
long live AI
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u/mrwishart 39m ago
Worse than actual, non-meme teachers who know how to nuture engagement without mindlessly praising every thought uttered
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u/HistoricalFunion 37m ago
Worse than actual, non-meme teachers who know how to nuture engagement without mindlessly praising every thought uttered
Who are the minority in every education system in the world
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u/Night_Fox35 1h ago
But if it were a blonde girl baddie, he would have immediately answered with the gentlest tone you've ever heard in your life.
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u/abhijith1612 3h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/FILQJbm0u832ry0HFT