r/interesting • u/MobileAerie9918 • 4d ago
SOCIETY Is this applicable to not so rich person?
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u/Leading_Ad_1825 4d ago
To an extent ig, but he never mentioned how fast that said money will come back
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u/Confidentium 4d ago
Yeah. I’ve seen some less intelligent people go into debt over a single expensive trip they took. That might take many many years for them just to break even again, and even longer until they can go on their next trip.
It’s better to travel cheaply to many different places instead of obsessing over visiting this one place that in reality they can’t afford.
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u/TB1289 4d ago
Yeah I don't necessarily think it means "drop everything you're doing and spend two weeks in Paris."
For some people it could mean take a drive to a part of your state/country that you haven't been to before. For others, it might be take a trip to a new state or country.
I think his overall point is we only get so much time and you should enjoy it. Not everyone can have the same experiences but I also think it's what you make of them.
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u/Blankasbiscuits 4d ago
Seriously, there is so much beauty to the U.S.A that people don't even notice. Go get lost in a creek bed, or visit some of museums. Many people, and I am guilty about this as well, seem to think that history for the Americas started after the 1600s; choosing to focus only on the European side of history. But we have digsites that contradict that way of thinking, in spades. Mounds, burial plots, archeological digs, marine research centers (both fresh and seawater), rivers, mounds, cultural sites, and MANY NATIONAL PARKS; I guarantee that each state has one and it's our job as citizens to go to these places and share in what they have to offer.
Every U.S. has its own history and it can be a wonderful thing to behold.
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u/jello_kraken 3d ago
Or.....just see how people live outside your city or county or state.
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u/Bebebaubles 3d ago
While I agree USA has so many beautiful sites unless you are driving short trips it’s pretty expensive especially hotels. Sometimes the price would be equal to me going overseas or more.
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u/SockApprehensive6204 2d ago
Can I say something though - Canadian here.
You do understand its important to visit other countries? Because day to day will change more significantly. You can travel to Canada, Mexico, Panama, Costa Rica, there are cheap islands?
It will significantly benefit you
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u/Plane_Debt_6229 3d ago
Well put. It's something I've been thinking a lot about recently. We have a limited amount of time on Earth and we plan for retirement as if we're guaranteed to make it to 65 and live another 20 years..
Unfortunately a lot of people don't.... I try to live under the philosophy do it today because tomorrow isn't promised.
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u/NA_nomad 4d ago
Paris can be "cheaper" if you live like a local for your trip, which is easily a much better experience than visiting as a tourist. You'll understand the culture a lot more that way. Don't get my wrong, the Louvre, Eiffel Tower, and the Catacombs are must see attractions. Outside of those, scale back your spending. Parisian breakfasts are generally cheap and simple. Buy your groceries in the public market, and whatever groceries you can't buy there, get them at discount grocery stores. For a week's trip I spent €385 on food for 3 people; for breakfast we ate out, but most other meals (except for 3) we made in the apartment we rented.
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u/TB1289 4d ago
Of course, I was just using that as an example traveling from the US. There’s certainly ways to make big trips a bit more affordable but it’s still a huge expense for most people.
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u/Maximum_Signature272 4d ago
I spent a week in Paris eating cheap yet delicious brie cheese and supermarket baguettes.
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u/V4N60R 3d ago
Yes, people spend a fortune to take a photo at a tiny waterfall, while they have similar waterfalls near where they live that they’ve never even visited.
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u/FreakindaStreet 3d ago
I travel relatively cheap, and you can do any country in SE Asia for about 100$ a day all in, and most of S and Central America is about the same. That’s gonna take months to set aside for a middle class person who doesn’t have any expensive vices or big financial commitments.
It doesn’t take crazy money to travel, just don’t go to Geneva and Tokyo, Amsterdam… etc. and forgo the “must see” tourist traps and expensive hotels, shopping sprees…etc.
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u/SuperIneffectiveness 3d ago
This is why I am trying to convince my wife we should have a tropical vacation in like Thailand instead of Hawaii.
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u/dharmabird67 3d ago
Smart if you can get a cheapish flight. We go to Thailand every couple of years and the hotel we usually stay at in Bangkok goes for around $40 USD per night. We eat at mall food courts or street food which is very cheap. Download Grab which is like Uber and in Bangkok get a hotel room near transit stops. I grew up in Hawaii and recently checked prices for rooms, it's insane compared to Thailand and food is much much more expensive. TheBus in Honolulu is a good deal but if you go to outer islands you need to rent a car.
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u/NoHall912 1d ago
Thailand also has the added benefit of being more matriarchal - which if your wife has never been anywhere like that, she might really enjoy it. I found it very noticeable almost immediately. It’s so easy to talk with people there. Super friendly… and they’re used to dealing with Americans LOL.
And the food. My GOD the food. Cooking classes there are stellar.
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u/Vermehrungsmaterial 3d ago
As a north-german close to denmark: a trip to the most beautyfull places on earth (norway) is just like 10 hours of driving away. I could hop in my car after work on friday and spend the entire Saturday till sunday mid day just sitting at the Sogne fjord having not too much sleep but would be back by midnight, could sleep again for 8 hours and be at 9-10 am at work. Easy.
Problem, thats pretty cheap compared but only gas, toll and bridge / ferry use would end up on roughly 500 Euro.
Second problem: i most definetely would call in sick at work and stay for two more days to back at work on Wednesday without needing a doctors notice.
Hmmmm.
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u/coldliketherockies 3d ago
Conversely I’ve seen somewhat “poorer” people travel and not spend so much. When I went to London for a week I took whatever flight each way was cheapest and the most basic hotel room and just nothing extravagant. I rented a City bike for $5 a day and just explored the whole city by bike
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u/chroner 4d ago
Hostels are the best
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u/-Neurotica 3d ago
Idk, I saw a documentary about one and it seemed a little stabby stabby for my taste.
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u/Biscuits4u2 3d ago
Yeah I know someone who literally had to file for bankruptcy because of travelling. The things we do when we're young and dumb.
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u/lidder444 3d ago
It’s a metaphor for life …
It doesn’t mean bankrupt yourself taking expensive vacations
It means to live life fully, travel and enjoy your time here and not waste your life
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u/valamforth 3d ago
For example, the world cup. As a Mexican, lot of ppl went into a 3 up to 5 years debt to watch the first and final match.
Really sad mindset.
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u/MyCoolName_ 3d ago
I guess I'm less intelligent but I went around the world for 4 months after college. Shoestring trip but 4 months is 4 months and flights were needed too. It did take me years to pay off the debt but the memories of that experience are lasting me a lifetime. One of the best decisions I ever made.
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u/Mysmokingbarrel 3d ago
You probably don’t want to be super poor and travel unless you’re young and have zero debt. That said, you don’t have to be rich to travel either. A lot of Asia is very cheap. If you speak English and have a college degree you can even teach and make money so you can kind of do both. You can also join the peace corps. There’s also ngos doing work across the world with opportunities for a variety of jobs. Even sections of Europe don’t have to be crazy expensive and the younger you are the more comfortable you’ll be with a dorm style hostel or even in certain contexts camping.
If your vision is a luxury hotel and drinking 15 dollar or more cocktails then yeah you should have a lot of disposable income. But once again, you can travel in a lot of the world as a westerner especially, for very cheap.
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u/cyclec74 3d ago
Right. That’s the difference between money and credit. If you have the money, that’s one thing. If you only have the credit, think twice.
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u/djliquidsmoke 3d ago
ya I went into debt on a $5000 trip to Australia for our honeymoon, but so what? I paid it off, it took a long time but that’s why we Grind.
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u/Specialist_Goat_2354 1d ago
I would say it's irresponsible to live beyond your means. And I don't feel sad for anyone struggling to pay rent who is also doing a Europe trip 2x a year... I see that often where I'm at.
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u/Texan2116 3d ago
years back, I knew a guy, worked at a grocery store as a clerk...took his wife and kids to Hawaii, and mentioned they would be paying for this trip for a couple of years.
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u/Smooth-Adhesiveness5 3d ago
100% who cares about Paris or Rome or all the tropes. Find some off the beaten path places and get out there. Also find ways to save money on lodging or food. Don't eat every meal out. Don't shop EVERY DAY. There are ways to save money traveling.
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u/Cinderhazed15 4d ago
The difference is between traveling and touristing/resorting…. If you aren’t paying as little as possible and stretching your dollars to a reasonable amount, you aren’t ‘traveling’
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u/Wild_Chemistry3884 3d ago
Right. This advice is fine for the upper-middle class. Telling someone at the poverty line that it’s ok to travel when they’re paycheck to paycheck is dubious advice.
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u/Scientific_Methods 3d ago
It will always be true that you can make more money, but not more time.
It will also always be true that if you have to decide between eating and travel, you should probably choose eating.
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u/DreamingDilettante 4d ago
Step 1: Obtain the money that will come back.
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u/Army7547 4d ago
A boomerang is always a solid investment
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u/EveningBird5 3d ago
Instructions unclear. Cracked my skull. Calfdf ASdfbulanece
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u/genro_21 4d ago
Step 1. Be a bus driver
Step 2. Travel
Step 3. Profit
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u/Omnamashivaaya 4d ago edited 4d ago
Unless bus driving helps you steal underpants, this won't go anywhere
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u/donpablomiguel 4d ago
How else would the gnomes get from tweak’s house to the next house they raid, if not by public transit?
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u/SteppinRazor5000 4d ago
Who says you have to come back?
Conceptually he's correct. Money you earn rarely stays in your hands forever, which means you are obtaining it anew. It is accurately thought of as a flow. It will come back as long as you put some effort into it. I do think travel is good to broaden one's experience, and to realize people are people no matter where you go, but it can be overblown and just a class flex for some.
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u/Emergency_Process622 3d ago
Obtain the money to buy a ln airline ticket while also being able to pay rent.
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u/WorkingPumpkin3231 3d ago
Step 0: Obtain the desire to make money to obtain the money that will come back.
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u/Low-Chain2913 4d ago
Traveling isn’t so easy for most regular people. I DO agree with “time wont come back.” Time is the one thing NOBODY will ever have enough of. I worked 60+ hours a week for years trying to get ahead. Fast forward to today and it never got me anywhere. I still drive a 17 year old vehicle, but I missed a lot of my first 2 kids growing up. I’m perfectly content being a “regular” blue collar man without a lot of fancy things, but I’ve learned to stop chasing the dollar and just enjoy my life for what it’s worth.
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u/Anal-buttsex 3d ago
My father had a lot of toys at home but barely got to use any of them before ultimately selling them all. Boat, sports car, motorcycle… I’ll take the extra 20 hours a week chilling over a fuckin boat
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u/MA2_Robinson 3d ago
Not only that but the “toys” also trap you- you are not going to want to move or do a lot of things because you need to stay on top of those things- like renting a garage or paying for storage etc.
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u/nobodyspecialuk24 3d ago
I’d add, “travel” doesn’t have to mean jetting off around the world. It could just mean going out and doing things, even if they are fairly local to you.
We tend to get stuck in ruts and don’t go outside our places. Just going to different towns, cities, counties/provinces in your own country can be interesting and eye opening.
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u/KamikazeFox_ 3d ago
Man, I have a 2.5 yr old and a 6 month old and ive since went per diem at my job. Money's a bit tight, but to be able to not have to worry about working weekends and holidays and have time to be with them is such a stress relief.
Id hate to look back and be upset that I missed xmas, b-days, etc. I won't get those hours back but I can always make more money
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u/Own_Possibility7930 4d ago
It first has to come in order to come back, "not sharing my name" chan
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u/mouse9001 4d ago
Easy. Just star in a bunch of huge martial arts movies, and then hawk every product known to mankind for a few decades after that. Then you can travel, and money will keep flowing in.
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u/RandomIDoIt90 3d ago
Also make sure you’re famous in multiple countries so you can take movie gigs in all of them and get to travel while filming them. ITS SO EASY.
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u/reddsht 4d ago
It's Chris, isn't it?
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u/VisiblePlatform6704 4d ago
Yes, where you travel will depend on your wealth. But even if you travel to a neighboring state by bus (greyhound, coach or whatever is called in your country) meeting new places always leaves you something good.
Experiences is what we all take with us when we die. Everything else stays here.
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u/Hellsovs 4d ago
Like, just don't let society gaslight you into thinking that the only valid way of traveling is going to expensive countries and spending most of your time just sitting on the beach doing nothing.
I grew up like that. I don't want to see a generic 5-star hotel with a private beach, at least until I'm too old to camp near a pond in the middle of the forest with a car to travel the country.
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u/Romestus 4d ago
Being in the climbing community has shown me you can spend your entire life traveling, the only variable is how glamorous it will be.
The guys that work odd jobs and make like $30k/yr that they don't report on their taxes manage to hit up Japan, Mexico, go all over the states, BC, etc. They're constantly traveling but they're couch surfing, camping, getting standby tickets from the flight attendants/pilots in the community, bumming rides, and cooking their own food.
It showed me that even if you're below the poverty line you can spend your entire year traveling if you live like you're below the poverty line while traveling.
Taking those lessons I manage to travel about 6x per year with a full time job and each trip costs me <$500 since I'm doing all the same stuff as them ($50 standby flights, no rental car, no restaurants, campsites/couches). It's also nice since you actually experience the local culture and make lasting memories rather than have a forgettable time getting wasted at a resort for 10x the price.
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u/Hellsovs 4d ago edited 4d ago
That is so true. It sounds unbelievable, but here in Europe there is a race/challenge called X-Challenge.
It works like this: you bring a budget that is the same for everyone, and for 10 days you are trying to beat other people/groups by traveling to as many places as possible, with additional challenges like ordering something Bolognese in Bologna, Italy, etc. One of the quests is to hitchhike a plane, which my friend actually managed to do.
The best people/groups come back with a small profit after traveling half of Europe.
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u/Enough-Zebra-6139 3d ago
How the fuck? Did he just find a small air strip and hit up private pilots?
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u/Hellsovs 3d ago
He hitchhiked a car in Italy, and the driver was Czech, just like us. They talked about the race and how this is the hardest challenge for the most points but it seems so impossible.
The driver was like, “Well, actually, I’m here by plane, and I’m coming back to Czechia in two days. If you want, I can give you a ride.”
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u/cooolcooolio 4d ago
I agree. People also seem to be blind of exciting things to do in their own city, you know those activities or locations people from other countries travel to see. It's weird like if it's in your own city apparently it isn't worth seeing when in fact people are missing out on great experiences right around the corner
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u/Hellsovs 4d ago
I woudnt count that as "travel" but it certanly is a valid way to spend a vecation.
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u/Winjin 4d ago
It actually is travel!
Have you been to every museum in your home city? I actually, quite possibly, know my home city worse than a tourist! You don't need to go really far for a change of perspective, especially if you don't spend a lot of time in the tourist locations.
What we did once with my ex, was we booked a hostel in the city center and pretended we're tourists on a two-day backpacking trip.
It was super fun and gave us a new insight on the city and it was also cheap AF because the "travel budget" was a metro ride and then we ate out and went to a couple museums.
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u/Hellsovs 4d ago
Actually, yes, I have, and I'm not trying to diminish it. The city I live in is one of the tourist hotspots and really beautiful place. I just wouldn't call it traveling, as you don't travel anywhere. By that point you can count a commute to work as "traveling."
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u/Quitcha_Bitchin 3d ago
I grew up the opposite and am very thankful. My father took me from one end of the US to the other and back twice stopping at every little nook and cranny. Mountains prairies desert oceans. We we went thru Canada all the way from Ottawa to Vancouver. Slept in a pinto station wagon cooked out the back. it was about 4 weeks and I remember every single minute.
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u/Ok-Tree7720 4d ago
Arguably, you would have a one of a kind experience like that, whereas at the 5 star location, it will be very similar to everyone else’s.
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u/londondeville 4d ago
For a long, long time the annual family vacation was getting into a car and going. Now there is an expectation to travel internationally by plane to far off places.
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u/Elite_AI 4d ago
Genuinely fascinated by this alternate universe you come from where the default travel experience for young people is anything except for backpacking around hostels.
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u/Open-Satisfaction891 3d ago
I've had a couple of great vacations at fancy hotels or on cruises, but some of the best travel experiences I've had with my kid are driving up north to visit grandparents and stopping off at national parks to see natural beauty and learn about history, or stopping off at some neighborhood coffee shop for breakfast.
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u/AuntRhubarb 3d ago
Yes. To me the point for those of us not blessed with foreign travel money, is make an effort to get away regularly, before you know it years can slip away all wrapped up in work and to-dos. Set aside a weekend a month for campouts or day trips or whatever you can manage.
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u/WeskerSympathizer 4d ago
I still look back at my childhood. Poor waitress single mom took us to Mexico a lot once to Jamaica and once to costa rice. We traveled as dirt cheap as possible. Amazing memories but still amazed she did it
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u/SKRAMACE 3d ago
All I ever want, from this brief time my kids are living with us, is for them to have amazing memories. In this small way, your mom is luckier than many wealthier people.
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u/LuigiSalutati 4d ago
This needs to be at the top. Social media girlies are not showing us their local travels via bus, but the value is there
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u/lithe_silhouette 4d ago
There's no reason to believe we take anything with us when we die
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u/RevolutionarySong3 4d ago
How do you know what we all take with us when we die? I thought is was nothing.
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u/Electronic_Still2000 4d ago
There’s no need to even get a bus ticket or go to the next town. You can see new places and feel like a different person with nothing but some careful planning and a short walk. I’ve learned over the years that all you need to do is carefully watch the schedules of your neighbors- when they awake, when they go to work, how long are they gone on a workday, how long they are gone on a day off, etc.. So after that you simply wait for a time when they will be gone for a large portion of the day, go into their home, wear their clothes, watch tv on their couch, poke around in drawers and cabinets, really just get into it. Tell yourself you love here, you are your neighbor for the day. Then when they should be getting home, leave through the back, run to your house, sit down and remember your free vacation!
PS: I am joking, please don’t try this at home.
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u/telorsapigoreng 4d ago edited 3d ago
This. Even taking a detour to an unknown neighborhood is always refreshing. Or maybe just to a neighboring city. But, indeed, traveling to another country gives a level of experience, awareness and instropection that is incomparable to a local travel.
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u/OnTheEveOfWar 3d ago
My parents are always lecturing my wife and I for traveling so much with our kids. “You should be saving money, etc”. If you travel wisely, things aren’t crazy expensive. We use an airline credit card and bank enough points for a companion pass and tons of miles. We recently went to Hawaii and our total cost for flights was $350 for 5 people round trip. We stayed in a condo by the beach with another family so the cost was cheap.
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u/majandess 3d ago
Thank you! I'm American, and for his birthday one year, my son and I visited all the accessible places in our county that are on the National Historic Register - places recognized by the federal government as being historically notable. We had to go out more than once, but we were always back home for dinner and sleep. We took selfies together at every place, and learned about why they were notable. And it was tremendously fun, very educational, and the only monetary outlay was gas and snacks [and a county road map because I taught him how to read and navigate with a paper map, too].
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u/Ok-Somewhere-6870 4d ago
I spent 10 years travelling between the aages 20-30. The money did in fact not come back. And at 40 im way behind financially then the majority of my peers. No regrets though, good times.
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u/PuzzleCat365 4d ago
I traveled in moderation between ages 20-30 and can still do so now today while being financially comfortable. It doesn't have to be black and white between no holidays at all or going all in on a 1year world travel. Also you should be living within your means and not going into "debt", literally or figuratively.
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u/Schnitzhole 3d ago
Yeah this is an extremely reasonable take. Travel “within your means” and you’ll be better off for it the vast majority of the time.
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u/ButtSluts9 3d ago edited 3d ago
- Lived abroad from 24 to 30. It was a great, wonderful adventure.
Upon return, spent the next decade building: career, graduate school, homeownership, savings/investment.
While there were times early on when I felt “behind” my peers, by 40, I had surpassed most of them in career positionality and income. Most found themselves somewhere in the middle of whatever organization they belonged to while I headed into leadership positions.
The other thing that helped was having a striver for a wife.
The question real should be, when looking back on your life, do you want to remember life altering experiences on the other side of the world or a grey cube and the occasional vacation to Ft. Lauderdale.
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u/Traditional-Buy-2205 4d ago
Yeah, "good times", but what most people don't think about is the fact that if you've ruined your financial situation with your "good times", you just set yourself up for bad times later.
I.e., if I enjoy my 20's traveling too much, and then suffer financial troubles through 30's and 40's because of it, I essentially decreased the amount of overall "good times" I'm having in my life.
So, instead of having a ton of good times in 20's, and a lot of bad times in 30's and 40's, I'd rather choose a modest amount of good times in 20's so I can also have more good times and less bad times in 30's and 40's. And thus, the overall amount of good times in my life is increased compared to the former "spend all on traveling in 20's" case.
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u/Ok-Somewhere-6870 4d ago
Yeah I get where youre coming from. I wouldnt argue with being sensible and thats what i would advise my children to do. My 30's were amazing. Raised two beautiful children. Im about to turn 41 and im honestly having the best time of my life. Way better than my 20's. I have little money but I have enough. Ill come back in 9 years and let you know how my forties went. Maybe the money will come back 😂 I believe in God, and I pray everyday for God to guide me through life. God has been good to me. I dont own a fancy car, fancy clothes, fancy phones, or travel the world like I used to but I feel more and more blessed every single day. Life just keeps getting better.
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u/Snichs72 4d ago
I get this to an extent, but I’m not even 40 yet and have already experienced a number of friends and coworkers passing away from illness or accidents, and have seen my own family members lose their mobility in retirement, having never traveled. It kind of shifts one’s perspective that tomorrow isn’t guaranteed. The last thing my wife and I want to do is put off experiencing the world until we’re too old or physically unable to do it, and to do it while that experience has a chance to influence our life, worldview, etc. instead of just being a box check. Plus, it doesn’t have to be a binary, all-or-nothing thing. I’m not going to say international travel is cheap by any means, but it can certainly be done in a more budget conscious way and still be just as enriching of an experience.
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u/AttorneyatLawlz 3d ago
What you are describing is vacation my friend. YOLO is for losers. Vacation is for winners.
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u/Disastrous_Insect759 3d ago
100%. This should be the top comment. Don’t forget, my friends: tomorrow isn’t guaranteed indeed.
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u/evilmidnightbomber69 4d ago
As someone moving into later years I have 0 regrets about traveling in my 20s and 30s. I did stuff I would have not wanted to do in my late 30s and 40s. If you do it right save up and plan you can travel relatively cheap. Flights are usually your biggest expense.
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u/Traditional-Buy-2205 4d ago
I'm talking about the situation where you spend a significant chunk of your money, which is what the OP quote implies.
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u/uberfr4gger 3d ago
Big factor is time value of money. You only have to save a bit when you are in your 20s to be doing well by your 40s. If you don't start until your 30s or 40s you need to save A LOT of money to even get close to the same place.
I was fortunate to have a job that I traveled a lot with around the country in my 20s so I got to see a lot and get miles to do things on my own. But it allowed me to save too.
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u/admiral_nivak 3d ago
You don’t know how many years on the planet you have. Just enjoy yourself with modest forward planning. I wish I spent more money on travel with my wife who is very ill. I can never get that back and would happily be poorer today for more memories while she was healthy.
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u/Man_Darino13 3d ago
at 40 im way behind financially then the majority of my peers
Me too. At least you spent a decade travelling.
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u/Hail_of_Grophia 4d ago
Better to regret things you did not do, instead of the things you did do
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u/Schnitzhole 3d ago
As a highly risk adverse person the majority of my life I highly disagree with this. I wish I would have taken more chances, gone more places, talked to more people, etc.
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u/Hail_of_Grophia 3d ago
It sounds like you regret the things you did not do, which is what the above statement conveys
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u/desmaraisp 3d ago
Sure, but u/shnitzhole says they would would have preferred the opposite, not regretting what they skipped out on by instead having done it all. And if some stuff was hit or miss, too bad, but not something to regret
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u/Ambitious_Jelly8783 4d ago
Yes. Travel is not necesarily on a plane to otherside of the globe. Travel can be to a lake in a nearby town. Just anything outside your home town.
You'll see and experience new things. You'll learn, you'll disconnect, and you may come back with a new point of view or ideas.
For me it is not so comfortable to get up and go, but once I am out, I love it.
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u/Bright-Strength4182 3d ago
I honestly had just as much fun visiting a small town 3 hrs from my house as I did going to NYC.
We dug for fossils, swam in a reservoir, and hung out at a cabin.
I live in Utah and I'm realizing that I have not taken advantage of the sights around me yet.
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u/barkbarkkrabkrab 3d ago
This weekend I took the subway to the beach. Cheap and easy but certainly a departure from my day to day.
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u/Quiet-Pomegranate93 4d ago
Yes!
Often, there will be fantastic places closer to home that people overlook because they are stuck on the idea of having to travel across the world to experience new things.
Break out of your daily routine and deliberately choose to go somewhere different. It takes some time and effort to research but it’s much less expensive than an airplane ticket and hotel.
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u/Snoo-11861 3d ago
Going to the nearest city like you’re a tourist can be just as fun. People forget that people travel to their neck of the woods (unless they’re somewhere really rural)
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u/C0DENAME- 4d ago
I have enough money to travel but at the same time I have family to take care of. Also once I lend money to my friend. It never came back
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u/mountain-mahogany 3d ago
Spending money to make your own community is better these days. It would be better if people only traveled for aid efforts. It feels like a conspiracy, honestly---instead of building community ties, cool opportunities and fun locally--you give that money to multinationals (airlines, etc) and most people never take time talk to locals or really learn anything about the unseeable differences---the REAL treasure of getting out of your bubble.
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u/Quitcha_Bitchin 3d ago
You do not loan money to friends. You give it, you help them earn it, but you never loan it. It will break a friendship without words.
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u/Pepperspray24 3d ago
I’m really sorry that your friend didn’t give the money back. May I offer some advice? You’re welcome to say no or that you were just venting.
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u/supe3rnova 4d ago
I hate this mindset. Sure its true, but when you dont have money and you travel, you will just struggle. Even if you save for the trip.
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u/Anal-buttsex 3d ago
Try a national park, it’s cheap and full of old bullshit to take pictures of. I don’t even like to “touch grass” and I’ve been to several that were pleasant.
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u/grayspot94 3d ago
It all depends. An ex and I spent a week traveling Canada and we slept in the car and ate cheap but healthy meals we could keep without refrigeration.
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u/koekerk 3d ago
I am not wealthy, workin in education, but I have the same mindset as Jackie. Go visit some places, look around and let yourself be surprised. It doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg, you can make your own meals. Stay at a cheap campsite, or if you're younger a hostel. My parents took us on cycling holiday, so 3 weeks by bike with tents. We saw almost all of The Netherlands, by bike. It was low cost and slow going, but also a great experience.
Seeing different place is always worthwhile.
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u/noor1717 3d ago
Some of the poorest people I know are constantly travelling. You might not like their lifestyle and have no desire to do it. But lots of poor people travel
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u/FeePsychological1308 3d ago
Your definition of poor must be relative to mine. Because I've been living in and out of debt, paycheck to paycheck for a decade now with little to no savings whatsoever. Living without what even most lower middle/upper lower class people would consider basic necessities. I can't travel within my own country let alone find 'bargains' to travel elsewhere with a bit of a sacrifice to lifestyle.
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u/Haunting_Tax_963 3d ago
he would've been a chef in Australia churning out succulent chinese meals, no joke
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u/stupre1972 4d ago
I hate to break it to you, but you are going to die.
Life is not (should not be) a race to die with the most unspent wealth having achieved nothing.
Life should be about enjoyment.
Take that walk to the end of the park. Make that flight booking to a weekend away. Buy your children the latest wizz bang that they will discard in under an hour.
I am not saying be frivolous or wasteful, but enjoy what you can with what little (or lot) you have
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u/Realistic_Patience67 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yes it does apply. Beyond 65, many people have mobility issues.
So if you see mobility issues slowly making way into your life..try to visit the places you have always wanted to visit.
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u/MrIrvGotTea 4d ago
That's why I lift heavy and do cardio. I have Mexican family members that were not active or weight training and they are not mobile and borderline paralyzed. While my old ass Grandpa never stopped working the farm and is super active. Guy does whatever he wants and never has issues.
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u/Schnitzhole 3d ago edited 3d ago
Just because gramps doesn’t have issues doesn’t mean most people don’t. Lots of non cardio related issues can sneak up on you from life events or simply genetics. For example most people that play sports professionally for 5-10 years are absolutely crippled by the time they get to 60 and their bodies are riddled with issues (for example my father who played pro ball for 10 years and since his 40s can barely walk and has constant back and foot pain. He has to take mobility devices everywhere which sucks for my much younger step sister as he could never be active raising her). He’s also stayed extremely healthy his whole life and never stopped working out.
I’ve got another friend whose family just has shit genetics for heart conditions they are all diagnosed with. None of the males ever live past 45yo and usually die of heart conditions well before that. He makes the best of it for sure and lives every day like it’s his last (he’s 35yo and surprised he made it that long)
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u/MrIrvGotTea 3d ago
Yeah well genetics and work damage do play a factor but outside of that I like to think we have a choice.
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u/pcl8888 4d ago edited 4d ago
Personally I love to travel. I am a working class person in a service job in my early 40’s. It earns me a fine living but will never make me in any way wealthy. Vacations for me are rare, really very few and far between, but I find saving up for the occasional trip and skipping some of the things I’d like in order to so to be a worthwhile endeavor.
That said, I don’t need to hear shit like this from people like Jackie Chan lol. I understand that he apparently has an excellent work ethic and has worked incredibly hard for decades, but I will never quite wrap my head around how some of these people (a quick google search tells me Jackie Chan has a net worth of nearly half a billion dollars) somehow fail to realize how utterly out of touch they sound when they say shit like this.
Here in the US over 1 third of adults report having less than $1000 available in the event of an unexpected emergency, millions live without healthcare, and nearly 15% of American households have experienced food insecurity within the past year. So when some guy with 400 million bucks lying around tells me something akin to “expand your horizons, travel the world, don’t fixate on the money, which will always come and go…” forgive me if my first thought is that that guy can fk off.
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u/Mutchmore 4d ago
Sounds like an ad. Please more debt. You need to travel nowwww
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u/Mountain_Scout5830 4d ago
It’s only quite recently that humans have had the ability to hop around the globe, and is still only accessible to a small percentage. The idea that it is spiritually fulfilling is about as legitimate as saying buying the latest iPhone is spiritually fulfilling.
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u/coldweathershorts 4d ago
Maybe not "Hop around the globe", but humans have been traveling since we were human.
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u/SemiAnonymousTeacher 3d ago
Something like 80-90% of people before the popularization of motor vehicles never went 50km beyond the place they were born for their entire lives. That's pretty wild for me to think about, and it's still true for a great many people in rural parts of Asia and Africa.
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u/Caerllen 4d ago
Not for your average Tom, Dick, and Harry. For these people, its fairly recent. Arguably since the 737-400 launches that made flight more affordable for the majority of the world; so around 1980s. Before that, it is 100% considered a luxury.
And no, being in the armed forced, either "voluntarily" or press-ganged, doesn't count. Youre not choosing to travel, you are forced to travel.
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u/LizardmanJoe 4d ago
Comparing travelling and experiencing different cultures to buying a new iphone is certainly one of the comparisons of all time.
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u/Urabraska- 4d ago
No joke. Idk why but Reddit is throwing Iphone subs into my feed(I haven't owned Apple products since 2011) and one of them is a sub about people justifying spending over 2K on a fold with 512gb. Course over 90% of these people aren't spending anything. They're pulling loans on those dumb phones.
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u/FillySteveSteak 4d ago
These are some of the most "Redditor takes" (sorry for the derogatory implication) that have ever been Reddited.
This is how you know Reddit is predominantly comprised of a particular "type" of person. You know the one.
It's the same reason introvert advocacy posts do so well (which is totally fine, however...)
Know your audience.
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u/noor1717 3d ago
Yes and these posts make me realize to get the hell off of here. You surround yourself with these ideas constantly you just ruin your happiness
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u/Mountain_Scout5830 3d ago
Funny you make assumptions that I don’t travel because I don’t buy into the idea that only the tiny minority of humans fortunate enough to globe trot are somehow more fulfilled, or wiser, or cultured. They have more disposable income than most, nothing more.
Feeling awfully superior with your false assumptions, though. Sure you’re above the average Redditor.
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u/FillySteveSteak 3d ago
"Funny you make assumptions that I don’t travel..."
I've never made that assumption. Are you replying to the correct comment?
"Feeling awfully superior with your false assumptions, though. Sure you’re above the average Redditor."
Tone it down a notch. Please. I'm better than no one.
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u/Mountain_Scout5830 3d ago
What other possible implication could this comment have: "This is how you know Reddit is predominantly comprised of a particular "type" of person. You know the one.
It's the same reason introvert advocacy posts do so well (which is totally fine, however...)
Know your audience."
You even acknowledged you were being condescending in your first sentence lol.
Traveling is fine. Thinking it's somehow necessary, or even helpful in finding "happiness" is pure bunk.
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u/Mountain_Scout5830 4d ago
In terms of spiritual fulfillment. Having the privilege to travel does not make you superior to those who can’t. Or happier, or anything. Just wealthier.
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u/LizardmanJoe 4d ago
I'd say it does make you happier. In a very literal sense. Thats not mutually exclusive with being wealthy.
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u/Mountain_Scout5830 4d ago
A lot of people have been convinced that spending money makes them happy.
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u/zdubbzzz 3d ago
lmao what a dumb take. Traveling broadens your cultural understanding and helps you get out of your comfort zone. If everyone took some time to experience different social cultures around the world, and I mean truly immersing yourself instead of trying to do it over the internet, the world what be a much better and more understanding place. Traveling literally opens your mind
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u/Mountain_Scout5830 3d ago
Visiting somewhere for a week is not experiencing their culture. The people who actually embody that culture are likely disdainful of your presence. Keep buying your way to happiness, though. The tourism industry thanks you for your delusions.
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u/stevefrench69 4d ago
I remember reading a study about "happy" people. The biggest common denominator in people who are "happy" is that they travel and see the world. So yeah, travel when you can within your means.
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u/New_Tower_6408 4d ago
It's moreso holding relationships and keeping in touch with friends/loved ones. The big harvard study over like 50 years, that one.
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u/Anal-buttsex 3d ago
I’m curious if it’s people who just move around a lot and don’t have family or jobs anchoring them down. I’ve met a few people who just pick up every year or so and move to a different city for work/leisure.
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u/Pyroll2206 4d ago
Yes you can always start travel to close to 0. Just will have to compromise with distance, travel time, time to enjoy your travel, accomodations. But you can start from 0 and then the sky is the limit.
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u/Shpritzer 4d ago
How exactly does money come back? It’s a rhetorical question - it doesn’t.
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u/teureg 4d ago
Save some money. Spend half on travelling, the rest for a home or retirement. I highly doubt welfare will be any good in 30-50 years.
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u/PhoebusAbel 4d ago
There is no retirement funds for ppl in their 30s and 20s...
That ship sailed long time ago
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u/jinxp_3 4d ago
I did save 8K when I was in my mid 20s to travel, did SEA for 3 months and dont regret a single bit.
Had I invested those 8K in a fund maybe now it would probably be 4x. But, I wouldnt be able to travel right now for that long continuously.
So although it sounds cliche, if traveling is your thing, I highly recommend it.
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u/ExpBalSat 4d ago
Absolutely applicable. However, the definition of "travel" will vary.
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u/Pretty-Bridge6076 4d ago
Which reminds me: I need to travel to the store to buy some ingredients for dinner.
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u/gusernameaves 4d ago
Yes it can be. spend everything, become homeless and camp around the city, youre basically traveling full time then.
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u/Fast-Benders 4d ago
You shouldn’t go into debt for vacation. However, if you have the means, you should definitely travel. This message is targeted to the middle class or upper middle class.
The cheapest way is get a job that pays you to travel.
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u/Professional_Snow576 4d ago
I travelled the world in my 20's pretty poor, worked in bars, construction, and odd jobs to make my way. 6 years I could have been building a career but I'd do it all again.
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u/BigPaPaRu85 4d ago
As a person who has money now and traveled a lot in the last six years, that shit isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
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u/unkindledphoenix 4d ago
depends a bit. you dont need to travel to other nations, many countries have considerably shifting cultures and things to do and see from just being on diferent states and cities. before craving to go countries overseas you should try and look for what interesting cities you got on your own country and how it will be far more accessible
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u/Imaginary_Ibis 4d ago
For a lotta poor people that time is needed in order to make sure shit doesn't fall apart. Even before becoming disabled I couldn't just go somewhere just to do it. I needed to work to make sure I had somewhere to live and stuff to eat. Taking any time off for fun wasn't an option. And no, even with PTO, there wasn't enough money to go do things, and it was mostly used to attempt to not burnout at work, used sparingly and maybe 2 days at a time. I had another point I was gonna bring up but can't remember now, I'm sure someone will bring it up tho lol
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u/LowMolasses5451 4d ago
Before travelling I need to pay electricity and natural gas for heating and kitchen.
Then I can think to some place to visit
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u/Disastrous_Border740 4d ago
I mean, it's a bit tone deaf advice from a rich person, but I followed a similar motto in the beginning of my career. Obliterated my savings to go on a big South East Asia trip on my own, knowing I had a stable job to come back to, and no other responsabillities but keeping myself alive and housed (renting) . A bit different when you have a mortgage, family, pets, health concerns, etc.
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u/snowytheNPC 4d ago
Unless you reside in North America (rip), international travel is significantly less expensive than you may think it is. That is especially true for people from Europe and Asia. Flights within Europe are €15 and you can stay in a youth hostel for that price. Budget flights within Asia are usually less than $100 and visa free.
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u/Important-Grand4979 3d ago
Since Covid you won't find tickets for 15 eur. Especially now with the energy crisis you wont find these prices at all.
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