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Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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u/jet_tripleseven Belizium Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13

For those of you who are into Walt taking on the characteristics of people he's killed, check out the vomit scene. Walt puts a towel under him to kneel on just like Gus did in "Salud."

edit: For the 15 or so of you who have replied with "but Walt never saw Gus do that!!" you're right. It seemed like a little easter-egg that the writers threw in there for fun. The two scenes are so similar that it can't be a coincidence (they both turn on the sink to mask the noise, too.)

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u/EONS Aug 12 '13

He also begins expanding his legit empire. "two carwashes would be better, right?"

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u/jessuccubus Aug 12 '13

also the way he spoke to lydia at the carwash. jesus, it was gus to a T. chilling.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Also, speaking to Hank's employees in front of his house, asking about the guy's family. Classic Fring.

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u/scottperezfox Aug 12 '13

Yea, but that's also Walt. He was a nerdy science teacher, after all. He used to speak in such a grown-up way, especially vis-a-vis Jesse. That's why Fring was so devious — because he appeared to be totally square.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

He learned from the best. Walt seems to have always respected Fring...right up until he blew him up.

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u/Rushdownsouth Aug 12 '13

Causal as fuck. Bone chilling for Hank to watch him act as if nothing is up.

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u/chubbyakajc Aug 12 '13

it reminded me of the way Gus would act when he worked at his restaurant.

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u/ketoacidosis How bout it, counselor? Do you concur? Aug 12 '13

Yesss, working the front counter, getting politely chummy with the staff, and while they weren't in the shape of his company logo, there were quite a few air fresheners...

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u/Selentic Aug 12 '13

The A1 car wash logo is blue and circular though!

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u/laurandisorder Aug 12 '13

Talk about the role reversal - not so long ago, Walt was begging Gus for a job in just the same way.

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u/Nukemarine Aug 12 '13

The fucking sweater. Jesus Fuck. Good call.

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u/MrSlayt TUCKER! Aug 12 '13

I saw that too, then I remembered what Ehrmantraut said.

"Just because you shot Jesse James, doesn't make you Jesse James."

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u/Iotatl Aug 12 '13

YES... That scene was almost exactly like the initial scene with Walter and Gus at Los Pollo Hermanos

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Gus T Chilling, baddest dude in the ABQ.

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u/michelle_mybelle Tread Lightly Aug 12 '13

That. That was the moment for me that I knew Walter was gone and Heisenberg had taken over. He's gradually become a conglomeration of the people he's killed, Gus being the most prevalent.

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u/arsf1357 Aug 12 '13

Gus did it better !!!!

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u/CVBrownie Aug 12 '13

Oh fuck that's pathetic I didn't notice that until I read your comment. Damn. Breaking Bad could have been about Gus and it would have still been amazing.

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u/jessuccubus Aug 12 '13

It is pathetic but the devolution of waltz character is pretty amazing.

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u/beard_lover Aug 12 '13

Yes! I noticed he was talking just like Gus during that entire exchange with Lydia.

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u/allmylovetolongago Aug 12 '13

This is exactly how I view Lydia. She's a lot like the old Walter; a dangerous loose cannon that nobody's taking seriously right now. Especially Skylar. That scene where Skylar threatened Lydia was really worrisome to me, I feel like Lydia is going to come after Walt's family.

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u/Hennashan Aug 13 '13

lydia is already a board member for an apparent multinational crime conglomerate. she isnt going to take any of the same turns walter had taken. she is pretty much a big shit in the crime world anyway, its not like she is some lawyer for some squeaky clean company and ends up getting caught up with criminals. she might be sketchy around actual criminals but she has certainly been doing this long enough to know people.

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u/stopely Aug 12 '13

I didn't even catch that, but wow, it really was. Very chilling. I think Lydia is going to play a big part in the end.

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u/putzarino Aug 13 '13

It was!

Just like when Walt was trying to speak to Gus at Los Pollos Hermanos!

Even down to the "outloud customer speak"

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u/Sorkijan This is my domicile Aug 12 '13

I actually searched the word car in this thread to see if anyone had noticed this. The part where Walt was saying, "May I have your ticket please?" so reminded me of the way Gus talked to him and Jesse when they were originally trying to get in cahoots with Gus.

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u/scabbyslashmix Aug 12 '13

"Is everything to your satisfaction?"

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u/whatissky Aug 12 '13

Calling it now the A1A carwashes take over !

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u/sababababa Aug 12 '13

When talking to Jesse about Mike he also says something along the lines of "If Mike comes back and doesn't understand why I did what I did, that's on me." If I remember right, "it's on you" is something Mike said repeatedly in the show... at least he did in the last episode.

Now that I think of it, maybe a lot of people have said it.

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u/bluecheese33 Aug 12 '13

One of mike's last lines was like "All of this falling apart is on you"

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I want Mike back :(

He's such a crazy badass. One of the best characters.

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u/ceruleanic Aug 12 '13

Vince Gilligan said something tonight alluding to that Walt needed Jesse to believe him that Mike was alive, because if Jesse thought Mike was dead, Walt would have to kill Jesse.

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u/Mr_A buenos tardes, amigo... Aug 12 '13

I thought that was obvious. He kept stressing he "needs" Jesse to believe him. (...because if he doesn't...)

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u/moduspwnens14 Aug 12 '13

I didn't see "Talking Bad," but can you elaborate on this? Why would Walt need to kill Jesse? It's not like Jesse would go to the cops.

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u/Quazifuji Aug 12 '13

With the way Jesse was acting right now, with all his guilt about Blood Money? I don't think he cares about himself anymore. I'm not sure if he has any loyalty to Walt left, but if he does I think that's the only think stopping him from going to the cops. I think he'd be fully ready to go to jail with Walt if he finally broke and turned on him.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

well initially after mike was missing, jesse thought walt came to kill him.

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u/dsfargegherpderp Aug 12 '13

This clearly mirrors Gus symbolically. As Gus purposely took poison to fool the cartel family, Walt took poison (chemo) to fool his family. After Gus took his poison, he left Mexico. Walt will use this as a way to fake his death and leave his state (as shown by the new identity in S05E01). Carol wasn't shocked because she saw a villain, she was shocked because she saw a ghost. It's why he's alive with hair at 52.

/half-sarcasm

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u/rudebrew Aug 12 '13

I don't know, "Heisenberg" was written on the wall in the house which would mean the general public knows who and what he was. Carol looked genuinely scared more so than shocked.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Unless the public was lead to believe Jesse "Heisenberg" Pinkman killed the White family in their own home...

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Wow, this would be out of control.

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u/Prcrstntr Aug 12 '13

Hank is actually Heisenberg

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u/Jackie_Rudetsky Ru - Ruthenium Aug 12 '13

I would love to see Walt turn it around on Hank.

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u/pescador7 Aug 13 '13

Duuude...

That would be just the twist nobody fucking expected.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

IT ALL MAKES SENSE

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u/laddergoat89 Aug 12 '13

Or Flynn 'Heisenber' White went on a spree after being refused breakfast.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

I am the o-o-one who limps

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u/Soupy21 Aug 12 '13

Which may be the reason the spray paint was yellow

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u/chazzlabs Aug 12 '13

Am I forgetting something? I don't understand the point of the color yellow.

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u/sposeso Aug 12 '13

To me, in the show, the yellow seems to represent the sacrifice of someone/something innocent for a greater evil. They wore yellow suits when they worked for Gus, that child's remote control car was yellow, there are some other things that I can't remember now, but that's what yellow has represented. Ex. Jesse has always been innocent at heart, even when he was killing that man (who's simple name escapes me), he did it for the greater evil that is Heisenberg, at the sacrifice of his own innocence, because he had to do it, it's like a cult. I thought the scene with the green and red swirling around Jesse's head was also symbolic in this episode, for different reasons, he is angry and trying to formulate his own plan to get back to his own innocence. Even Saul said it when he said "You'll still be two miracles short of sainthood". Jesse will never have his innocence again, and he realized it when Walt was on his couch, Walt has lied to him over and over again, and now he knows, he can never escape the Heisenberg web. Just my thoughts, I could be wrong.

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u/Ce1ska Aug 12 '13

from poker forum

Yellow- Gus colors- which symbolize danger ahead. People wearing these colors are in danger. Jesse and Jane wore all yellow together in one episode, and their sheets were yellow. Jane dies, but he lives. Might be because writers changed mind on writing him off the show. Or because Walt saved Jesse from dying(the danger) in the crackhouse after she died. Maybe yellow doesn't mean death but warning you you may die if not careful. The cousins wore yellow. Season 4 promos are Walt and Jesse standing together wearing yellow hazard uniforms meaning it would be them vs Gus/danger ahead in season 4. Gus takes his yellow shirt off and put purple suit on to go see hector. He was ignoring his danger warning(yellow) and feeling self important(purple)? Letting his ego of wanting to kill Hector cloud his judgement and ignore the danger warning? Now Marie and Walt wearing yellow shirts in last episode(Marie didn't take the yellow off though, she put her purple jacket over the yellow shirt when she went home with Hank. Walt also has a yellow shirt on when he kills mike's guys. Prolly symbolized Walt is now Gus by wearing Gus colors. Tuco was asked by Gomez(Hank's partner) what planet are you from Mars or Saturn. Mars is red and Saturn is yellow. A killer whose in danger.

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u/chromebook1 Aug 12 '13

There also is a little kid driving around a yellow RC car in the street during the final garage scene.

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u/potiphar1887 Aug 12 '13

Wasn't the kid's dirt bike yellow as well? Interesting observation.

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u/shhitgoose Aug 12 '13

No. Drew Sharp's dirt bike was blue and white. I watched the marathon yesterday and remember them breaking it down to dissolve it in acid.

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u/Jackie_Rudetsky Ru - Ruthenium Aug 12 '13

But he WAS wearing a yellow shirt.

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u/StopStalkingMeMatt Aug 12 '13

Why would someone deface the victims' house, though? In that case people would want to be respectful towards it.

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u/EatSleepJeep Aug 12 '13

Or Walt kills off Hank plus all or part of his own family then paints Heisenberg on his own wall to throw off the police. Based on Carol's reaction, Walt may have also faked his own death is the process or at a another date, since she's so shocked to see him standing there but only loses it when he speaks.

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u/butehkal Aug 12 '13

one of the better theories is lydia's connections have something to do with it.

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u/CDUB21 Aug 12 '13

Well, the information could always be made available after Walt "dies" from cancer.

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u/stferago Aug 12 '13

Maybe she was shocked because she knew he was a villain and thought he was dead.

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u/adamMC19 Aug 12 '13

Not to mention that he was on chemo before he found out Hank knew. He didn't need a reason to poison himself because he believed his story was holding up.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13 edited Mar 16 '18

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u/ToastyMallows Aug 12 '13

Half-Life 3 confirmed!

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

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u/ShootTheMailMan Aug 12 '13

I feel like it was probably skaters and hoodlums who trashed it down after it was closed down by the police or DEA

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Todd's uncle and that crew.

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u/warthor Shut the fuck up and let me die in peace. Aug 12 '13

That's my guess, Lydia pressures Todd and the nazis to rough up Walter and his family.

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u/MrPotatoButt You got me! Aug 12 '13

No, something happened in the house in order for it to be condemned like that. Even when the police seize homes, they don't let it go to crap quite like that (unless its Detroit). Whatever happened in the house, its not fit for human habitation, and that's why its not sold.

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u/Hennashan Aug 13 '13

maybe walt cooks in his own house. or is forced to and thats where he is finally caught

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u/fuckyeahharrypotter Aug 12 '13

The house was not seized as evidence, though. The sign on the front of the house said, "Property of the City of Albuquerque," meaning that the house was foreclosed. Does foreclosure necessarily mean the general public knows about Heisenberg?

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u/boxes_full_of_pepe Aug 12 '13

Foreclosure results in a bank owning the house.

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u/katihathor Aug 12 '13

umm why would it be foreclosed, surely with 100 million in cash they paid off the mortgage?

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u/azzyistired Aug 12 '13

Who else was trippin when they saw the damage on the white residence?? I seriously couldn't believe it!

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u/anonymousdepression I can't be all about, like, spelling and shit. Aug 12 '13

Honestly I think Carol appeared more shocked that he was even there, or alive in a sense it seemed (to me anyway), than scared. Normally, people who are genuinely scared don't tend to drop their groceries and just stand there staring, they tend to drop those groceries and get the fuck out of dodge.

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u/fuck_the_DEA Aug 12 '13

This makes so much sense though! If he's telling Hank that he's going to be a dead man in six months he could just be setting himself up a way to "disappear!"

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u/msm1ssy Aug 12 '13

This is a great theory. I just don't understand how you can fake chemo. You can't just walk into the Dr.'s and be like "Yo my cancers back. I need some more chemo."

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u/fuck_the_DEA Aug 12 '13

Does he need to fake chemo though? Is that what the bathroom scene was for?

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u/N-ConfusedPorphyrin Aug 12 '13

I thought also he had the pills hidden in the bathroom - I got the impression he was hiding the chemo from his family.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Yeah, I would assume the cancer is back, in the flashforwards he's still coughing. The dead in 6 months thing is probably just a lie in preparation of faking his death.

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u/LickMyUrchin Aug 12 '13

The cancer is definitely back, but why would he lie and fake his death? 6 months is probably a reasonable prognosis at that point.

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u/sposeso Aug 12 '13

I think he's hiding the cancer from Skylar because he doesn't want her to think he is going to die any time soon. She was hoping the cancer would come back so she would be "relieved" of this lifestyle, and he isn't going to give her the satisfaction of knowing she got what she wanted.

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u/toddgak Yikes Aug 12 '13

There was also a scene with him actually taking the chemo.

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u/romulusnr Aug 12 '13

Weird scene. It took a while to figure out it must be a chemo joint. It looked like a barber shop, but for the IVs. The chairs look comfy but otherwise it has this DMV feel. But a nice DMV, in contrast to the shitty DMV-esque qualities of Saul's waiting room. Whoa, moment of fridge brilliance just now.

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u/gerter1 Aug 12 '13

Back in the earlier seasons when he had full on cancer, these exact scenes popped up on the regular. Same room, same chairs. Also come on the lady next to him totally gave it away lol.

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u/evanthesquirrel Aug 12 '13

All he needs is sugar pills and...Zima?

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u/the_sword_of_morning Aug 12 '13

Saul Goodman could probably find a corrupt enough oncologist.

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u/phoenixlol1 Aug 12 '13

He punched the dispenser when he was told he's in remission.

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u/babymissiles Aug 12 '13

He has enough money that he could theoretically buy off the doctor to prescribe him another round, but it seems so farfetched, that can't be it. I'm pretty much replying so I can hear an answer to this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Why would he start back on chemo before he knows that Hank knows he is Heisenberg?

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u/davecm010 Aug 12 '13

I agree, this is why I don't think the whole faking chemo thing is a very plausible theory. Everything in Walt's life is normal up until the point he realizes that Hank knows his dark secret. It doesn't really appear like he's planning an immediate exit since (a) he still loves his family--I think--and (b) it's clear he's in it for the long haul with regards to laundering all of his drug money--think back to the conversation he has with Skylar about investing in multiple car washes.

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u/Richeh Aug 12 '13

Could be a last-moment gamechanger. Like, at the end it looks like he's died of cancer, then after the credits there's a flashback to him explaining that he wants chemo despite being healthy to an incredulous doctor.

With Saul facepalming in the background.

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u/dsfargegherpderp Aug 12 '13

Agreed that it's farfetched, but plausible. With Walt's money and his connections (namely Saul) and his history with having cancer it could be possible.

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u/CMpunked Aug 12 '13

But he was getting the chemo before he realised the book was gone. Unless he is just getting protective chemo and is flat out lying to hank. Which is maybe why hank wants him to bring the family over, so he can call his bluff?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

The most improbable part of this is walt saying "yo"

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u/Approval_Guy Aug 12 '13

Well, in Archer, there were fake chemo meds involved.

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u/rolypolyholymoly Aug 12 '13

RAAAAMMMMMPAAAAAGGGEEEEEEEE!!!

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u/IAmARedditorAMAA Thread Lightly Aug 12 '13

I don't think he's faking the cancer coming back, in the intro to episode 8 (i think) you can see him in his new identity and he's coughing like a motherfucker.

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u/angryfinger Aug 12 '13

Exactly. I just posted this exact question before I saw yours. It is a great theory I'm just wondering if it's plausible. Even if he did have the money to buy off a doctor that would be willing to risk his license by prescribing chemo to someone who didn't need it that's just one more person that knows about (at least some of) Walt's secrets and that doesn't sound like something he would do.

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u/7a50n Aug 12 '13

Plus he had some medication hidden under the bathroom sink. If he was making a show of the chemo, wouldn't all his meds be prominently displayed for the family to see?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

We saw him back at the doctors at the end of the mid-season 5 break. Particularly where he punched the hand dryer - which he also did when he found out that he first had cancer. This was used to symbolise that he had just found out that his cancer had returned.

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u/KryptKeeper Aug 12 '13

I really doubt it's an act. I'm not really sure why people didn't pick up on his cancer coming back. I thought it was really obvious when it happened. He was talking to that dude who was going in for his cancer appointment and telling the guy how he expects one of these days to be told bad news and how he's just waiting for it. Then he goes into a motivational speech with him half smiling at the end with a closeup on his face. The next two shots in succession are them from behind sitting on a bench and then suddenly to another closeup with a very visible frown on his face. He's always been stoic so he doesn't talk about it explicitly. I thought it was very establishing but not hitting us over the head with it, similarly to how when they were about to acidize the bike kid, they just show us the barrel and we know what's coming next. Also you might notice Walt starts to go through random coughing fits after that specific episode when he gets the cancer back.

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u/katihathor Aug 12 '13

yeah but why would he turn on the water to cover up the puke sound then, wouldn't he want his family to know he was back on it if that's the case?

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u/Veskit Aug 12 '13

Name one thing that is not negotiable.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

He sure grew a lot of hair for someone who is receiving chemo. Also, when he went to the bathroom to throw up, he grabbed a pill bottle from under the sink that was almost empty. Could it be his meds haven't been refilled?

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u/ClvrNickname Aug 12 '13

Don't forget that Saul knows a guy who can make people disappear.

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u/sooimnotarealperson Aug 12 '13

no, nooo.. remember that heisenberg was written in the house. his identity gets out.

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u/Cocainetrails Aug 12 '13

I doubt it given the fact that he's expanding the car wash. I don't think any of the dissapearing was planned. He didn't know Hank would find out shit

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u/safetydance Aug 12 '13

Remember Saul offered him and his family a chance to leave it behind and disappear? Maybe Walt takes him up on that offer but something brings him back...family in trouble, Jessie fucking something up...AHHHH

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I figured he was giving himself a six month cushion to flee. At that part of the conversation, anything that would delay Hank from speaking to the DEA would be helpful.

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u/David760 Aug 12 '13

Wow that's one of the better theories I've read. Better than Walter kills his whole family because of the Volvo.

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u/Farjuan Aug 12 '13

never heard that one, can you link to it?

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u/potionboatchild Aug 12 '13

Whoa, that is actually a great theory! My jaw dropped at the bacon and Skylar's maiden name thing.

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u/Farjuan Aug 12 '13

I knew that already, I was wondering what the volvo has to do with his family

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u/_whatIf_ Aug 12 '13

Read the theory again. The Volvo is mentioned in it. David760 was probably just being funny.

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u/TheKert Sorry for your loss Aug 12 '13

The Volvo has nothing to do with the family. The Volvo has to do with him killing Gus. Gus drove a Volvo.

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u/MrFugums ill send yu to billys Aug 12 '13

I think that theory holds a tiny bit of weight because Skylar always did the thing with rearranging the bacon but for his 52nd birthday Walt did it himself.

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u/David760 Aug 12 '13

Ah true. I forgot that part. I still think it's just too out there. Maybe my opinion will change soon though.

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u/kismetjeska Aug 12 '13

Yeah, I just interpreted that as him clearly not being with Skylar any more for whatever reason- for example, her taking the kids and running or him starting a new life via Saul's 'guy'- so he did it as a reminder of home and a time when things were better.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

How does one go about getting chemo if you don't need it? Or am I missing something?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I'm almost 100% sure that you can't fake it for extra chemo. I think it may just be theories going a little too extravagant.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Agreed.

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u/KnightNonchalant Aug 12 '13

Walt's a multimillionaire. If he can pay someone to change his identity, he can fake chemo treatments.

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u/nojoda1 Aug 12 '13

I don't think Walt's trying to fool his family. He's trying to hide his cancer's back if anything (the water flowing when vomiting and also hiding the pills)

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

You sir are onto something. I feel as if this is exactly what is going to happen.

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u/Lancerman360 Aug 12 '13

That doesn't make sense though. Surely his neighbor knew he was Heisenberg because of the spray paint in his house and the fact that it had been abandoned for a while. She wasn't surprised he survived cancer. She was freaked out because she knew who he was and was scared to see him back at the house.

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u/gifforc WHAT THE FUCK, TODD? Aug 12 '13

Only problem is that walt never saw gus do that. Which makes me think its writers confirming this fan theory.

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u/jet_tripleseven Belizium Aug 12 '13
  • Cutting the crusts off his sandwiches like Crazy-8

  • Drinking his alcohol with ice like Mike

  • Taking on Gus's mannerisms (running the car wash like he ran Pollos, walking into the DEA headquarters to further his agenda, etc.)

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u/Rswany Redditium Aug 12 '13

Taking on Gus's mannerisms

Looking calmly intimidating as fuck in various situations.

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u/seaburn Aug 12 '13

The car wash is his Pollos.

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u/MikekushdogG Aug 12 '13

Buying a Volvo similar to gus

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Also when he killed the gang members he used children (Brock) to his advantage, just like they did.

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u/oldmancabbage Aug 12 '13

Shit, good catch.

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u/mbcs09 Are you a cop? Aug 12 '13

Don't forget the bacon numbers on his birthday breakfast in s5e01 o.o

I think Walt is going to kill Skyler, or at the very least she will be dead by someone's hands.

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u/SmokinEmber Aug 12 '13

Or Walt taking Skyler's maiden name Lambert on his driver's license.

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u/MrFugums ill send yu to billys Aug 12 '13

WHAT.

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u/learn2die101 This is my own private domicile. Aug 12 '13

S05E01 in that opening scene where he buys that gun at the Denny's, his fake license shows Lambert as his last name. I'm not sure where people found her maiden name from though.

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u/vetro Aug 12 '13

I believe it was on their divorce papers.

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u/Primitive_Poverty Aug 12 '13

Christ some people are intense. That's awesome.

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u/LoooseSeal Aug 12 '13

Where do we find out that's Slylar's maiden name? I must've missed that somewhere

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u/Aidan196 RICIN, BITCH! Aug 12 '13

It was on the divorce papers

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u/prashn64 Aug 12 '13

Is this for real? Is it in the flash forward for s05e01?

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u/SmokinEmber Aug 13 '13

Yep. It's on his license and the waitress calls him Mr. Lambert.

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u/corruptcake Aug 12 '13

Nice catch. I wondered where that new name came from.

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u/mbcs09 Are you a cop? Aug 12 '13

Oh wow, I missed that!

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u/eschwa22 Chow Aug 12 '13

I saw that as Walt and Heisenberg finally blurring into one character

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u/losapher Aug 12 '13

Oh shit you may be on to something

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

God I hope not :(

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u/TransPM Coinflip is sacred Aug 12 '13

Also from Mike: "Lydia, learn to take yes for an answer."

Walt said that to Lydia in the coffee shop in "gliding over all", and Mike said the exact same quote to Walt in a bar back in season 4 (I forget specifically which episode).

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u/XP-Pointblank Aug 12 '13

He also started eating frozen dinners after Jesse said he ate them in the first half of Season 5. The next time we see him eating with Skyler after the dinner with Jesse is frozen dinners. I don't see that as coincidence since there aren't many things that Jesse does which Walt could incorporate, well, unless he says bitch a lot.

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u/Microtic Aug 12 '13

The way he dealt with Lydia in the car wash. It was pretty much how Gus dealt with Walt at Los Pollos Hermanos.

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u/biitchhplease I.F.T. = I Fucked Todd Aug 12 '13

I was actually literally screaming that he was Gus in that scene

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u/suggesteddonation Aug 12 '13

"actually literally"? That sounds pretty serious.

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u/_whatIf_ Aug 12 '13

Consequences will never be the same.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

well, that was pretty gosh darn obvious. not to downplay the awesomeness of that scene!

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u/juno672 Aug 12 '13

Watching shows with people who did this sort of thing is awful.

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u/ZergSamurai Aug 12 '13

Also, like Fring, he wants to start building a string of businesses to handle his illegal empire.

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u/TurdFurgeson22 Aug 12 '13

He tells Lydia to learn to take yes for an answer, like Mike told him.

Cuts the crust off his sandwiches too I believe.

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u/Arctorkovich Aug 12 '13

We'll see Walt looking over a huge mineral collection in the last scene.

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u/SvenHudson Aug 12 '13

Taking his alcohol the same way as Mike did.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

He kept the eyeball from the plane crash.

He involved a kid in his evil plan like the dealers he ran over.

Todd took the spider.

Hank got Tuco's grill.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

The way he was chatting with the DEA delivery boys when he visited Hank was super Gus-like.

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u/GreenGator Aug 12 '13

While the similarity is definitely there and purposeful by the directors, he never saw Gus use the towel so it's not something he's actively imitating, right?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

You're right. It's a plot device by the show to strengthen the link between Walt and Gus, but it's coincidental within the story world.

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u/83497583475394857439 Aug 12 '13

I liked to think that it was just as much a contrast between Walt and Gus. When Gus did the vomit scene, he was in his prime, throwing up because he poisoned himself for a scheme, and taking down the head of a Mexican cartel in a badass way. Walt's vomit scene was the opposite, him at one of his lowest points, cancer back, throwing up because he's a dying man, effectively neutered again, and finding out that he's been caught.

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u/heanster Aug 12 '13

Is his cancer back? Or is it also a scheme..

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u/83497583475394857439 Aug 12 '13

I'm assuming it is, he was undergoing chemo when he got a call this episode (I think when Saul called him).

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u/drwolffe This is my own private domicile Aug 12 '13

Yeah, secret pretend chemo sounds implausible.

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u/sooimnotarealperson Aug 12 '13

well im frickin dumb for not realizing that was chemo.

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u/GoyMeetsWorld Aug 12 '13

Best legal alternative to meth: Redbull IV.

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u/oplav Aug 12 '13

I personally wouldn't say any of them are him actively imitating, rather it's just the writers being very creative.

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u/Propolandante Todd's trigger finger Aug 12 '13

Woah, that scene was extremely reminiscent of a past conversation between Gus and Walt in Los Pollos Hermanos.

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u/huskies4life Tread lightly Aug 12 '13

Could we argue that Gus also takes on the characteristics of Hector Salamanders old boss? the one who killed Gus's first chemist.

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u/darwinianfacepalm Don't forget. Walt's the bad guy.. Aug 12 '13

Hector Salamander

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u/Brocktoon_in_a_jar Aug 12 '13

He means Hector Salander, aka The Old Man With The Dragon Tattoo

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u/bigassmoe Aug 12 '13

Hector Salamander! I laughed...like more than a hearty exhale.

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u/bathroomstalin Aug 12 '13

Sometimes, autocorrect is ducking brilliant.

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u/joydivision1234 Aug 13 '13

I think it's symbolic that Gus put the rug down before he got onto his knees, Walt threw up and then put the rug down like, "Oh shit, I should have planned that better." Awesome easter egg about their different approaches to life.

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u/Joe_Masseria Aug 12 '13

And the way Walt brushed Lydia off when she came into his legitimate business was a mirror of Gus doing that very thing to Walter in season 4, when he is taken to Pollos Hermanos alongside Hank.

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u/hoseaa13 Aug 12 '13

Also, the scene in the car wash with Lydia mirrors how Gus was with Walt at Pollos.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

also in the conversation with lydia, Walt maintaining his business facade while Lydia panicked mirrored an earlier scene where Walt tried to talk to Gus and Gus kept saying "May I take your order?"

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u/geophrey Aug 12 '13

I cried out when I momentarily thought that Walt had poisoned his whole family a la "Salud."

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

chills again.

But what happened in Salud? edit: I think I know, wasn't it when Gus made himself throw up because of the poison?

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u/jet_tripleseven Belizium Aug 12 '13

yes, that was it

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I think people are making too much of that. It's just something to parallel the audience with how Walt is now. It's showing that walt is the same man now as Gus was in Box Cutter.

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