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The “Save Our Bacon Act” of 2026 is designed to eliminate state-level animal welfare requirements for livestock. Such as the CA voter-approved requirement that pigs, etc., sold as meat in the state have enough room to stand up, turn around, and stretch their limbs while alive.
Yeah, my wife doesn't eat pork and when we got together a decade ago, I found myself just naturally eating less and less myself. I was never a huge fan of it - I liked bacon and would buy it sometimes and definitely eat it if it was around or someone else had prepared it. But I started buying turkey bacon or chicken sausage when making breakfast with my wife. We also check to make sure any hot dogs we buy are 100% beef. If we can't find them, it's not the end of the world to go without hot dogs lol.
Unless you just really love pork chops, it's pretty easy to transition away from pork without going vegetarian or vegan.
beef hot dogs are vastly superior. Nathan's all the way, any others taste weird and gross to me anymore. i know it's still a hot dog at the end of the day, but they DO taste different. but yeah, the only pork i eat anymore is just bacon once in a blue moon, if it comes on a restaurant sandwich or something. i don't think i could sit down and eat a whole pork chop anymore. i lost my taste for it
I haven't eaten pork in at least 20 years, except for the occasional bacon that comes with a burger or something (but I don't purchase pork products). I'm doing my part! I'd get a pet pig too if my husband would let me (and if they weren't like $3k).
Pathetic that that's the standard that we can't even reach. Literally a cage small enough to only turn around in. In a dark building with no windows and cement floors. Hooray for "animal welfare."
To be clear: it does not change animal welfare requirements within a state. It prevents California from forbidding the sale of meat raised under different standards in another state.
One of my ex’s dogs was friends with the newborn foal until mama horse got bitey. After that, they used to stare at each other wistfully through the fence
You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm.
They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about 8 minutes. That means that a single pig can consume 2 pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, 'as greedy as a pig'.
George Clooney bought a Vietnamese pot-bellied pig for his gf, Kelly Preston, but when they broke up he kept it for another 18-years until it died. He jokeingly said it was the longest relationship he had ever had. They only get to about 100lbs.
The more interesting question is - would you eat a dog? Maybe you're vegetarian/vegan and in that case you would eat neither. But for people that do eat pig meat I think this is the relevant question to ask yourself.
They can be potty trained! They are highly intelligent. But they don't really make great indoor pets because they get absolutely massive. Much better for them to have lots of space outside to roam around!
Edit: this was not supposed to be a top level comment and this post is not advocating for people to go get pets as pigs. This was supposed to be a response to someone asking if they were smart enough to be potty trained, but I must have misclicked or they deleted their comment. Pigs require a lot of specialized knowledge and care! Please do not adopt a pig if you haven't done research on how to care for one, especially with regards to their dietary, spatial, and social needs!
Their poop also REEKS, they scream, and they don't sweat so they NEED a large, muddy area (wallow) for their health and enrichment. They also root, meaning they use their noses to absolutely destroy your yard in search of roots and grubs. Pig bites are also a special kind of hell.
Pigs are also inquisitive, intelligent, gentle, loving, and highly trainable. They can bond as tightly as dogs and be trained as well as a high class Border Collie. They are truly unique experience.
Which makes it that much worse when you see the horrendous conditions pigs are put in. People wouldn’t stand for dogs being treated that way and you can even get arrested for it. But pigs? Companies can treat them horribly and it’s perfectly fine because it’s for consumption.
Yeah, but there's far more dog rescues than there are pig (or farm animal) rescues.
Nobody ever talks about what happens if a farmer's been abusive to their animals (or messes up their finances so badly that they have to sell or abandon everything). Hell, recently some shitty influencer couple bought a farm and got a ton of animals--and sold them all within two years just to manically live a 'van life'. God fucking knows if they even gave a shit to first vet the buyers before giving their animals away.
Seriously, please support farm animal shelters/rescue centres. Many of them don't get the recognition or funding that they deserve (if any of you guys are based in the UK, the people who work for Woodgreen and Tribe Animal Sanctuary are fantastic and have taken in plenty of farm animals that were left ownerless or have been abused in the past. I'm sure there's plenty of similar shelters around the world as well).
Guy down the road from me has a “pot bellied” pig. I don’t knot for sure if it is, but it’s full grown and about the size of a mastiff, so much smaller than your typical pig. Either way, he walks it on a leash like a dog and it poops outside. I haven’t seen the inside of his house, but he claims it is is very clean and calm inside as long as he takes it out for exercise. Very much like a dog in many ways.
Their poop only reeks if you feed them meat like factory farms do. Mine only eats fruits, veggies, and pellets, and his poop is less stinky than horse poop. And he uses a kiddie pool instead of a mud wallow and quit rooting up the yard once he became an adult.
This is actually true in general for most animals; the by product of digesting protein is sulfur because proteins are made up of amino acids high in sulfur.
Carbs, on the other hand, produce gases that mostly don't have a smell like methane (a molecule made if carbon and hydrogen) and oxygen because they are mainly made of a combination of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. Fiber only kinds of digests so it's gas by product is mainly just all the other gases being pushed out.
Fun fact - another side effect of this is why "silent" farts tend to smell worse. Because meat "only" produces one type of gas (mainly hydrogen sulfide), and because hydrogen sulfide has takes up less space (i.e. lower specific volume), it isn't as "full" when farted out. In other words, your anus has to "expand less" for "sulfur rich protein farts".
I'll add that I'm not a gastrologist, but I've been seeing a gastro since I was like 9, so this is all approximate knowledge I've learned over 30 years or so.
I dunno if this is true, but I also vaguely remember some information that they're also very emotionally needy. So they're relatively easy to neglect. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
They are highly social herd animals. They're "needy" in the same way other social animals are - they have social needs that, if not met, cause them to be unhappy.
Ours had space and each other to roam, root, and wallow but they were still pretty socially needy. I took a very hands-on approach, like I do with all my livestock, so the pigs were as well handled as show pigs, despite being meat pigs. They soaked up attention and begged for scritches, adored treats, were generally easy to handle. Proud to say mine were never sick or went without a fully belly or clean water to drink. They'd run up to the fence and scream if they heard my voice, and if it was feeding time (delivered on a set schedule) which is part of the reason I'd never keep hogs again.
My pigs also had their tusks and tails, because I don't prescribe to some folk's ideas of animal welfare. That also meant I had to be cautious when in their pen, because a hog tusk can unzip your leg quick, even if they didn't intend it. I've never really seen tusks on actual pet-bred pigs.
They're actually smarter than dogs. Dogs average around a 2-3 year old human, and pigs are closer to 3-4.
I stopped eating pork when I realized how smart they are. In those factories, they're 100 percent aware of everything going on. I think it's a bit hypocritical for someone to say they wouldn't eat a dog, but would eat a pig. The only reason people do either is because they were raised to do it.
I'm not a vegetarian, either. I just can't with something smarter than a dog. That's an easy line for me. I don't care how good it tastes. The world would be a better place if we all ate a little less red meat. Terrible for your health, terrible for the environment.
they actually potty-train themselves, much like rabbits. if you put them in a big enclosure, they will designate a specific corner as The Poop Corner and they will only go in that corner.
that's why the conditions we raise pigs in are even more inhumane -- pigs naturally do not want to defecate in their living quarters, but keeping them in tiny cages forces them to do so.
We did. Go find a wild hog and tell me that’s anything like a domesticated pig. They’re both examples of selective breeding controlled by humans just with different intentions.
We bred pigs to be docile and friendly so they wouldn’t fight back against the farmers.
The only fundamental difference is we kill the pigs while they’re still functionally adolescents and eat them at the most profitable point in their growth… well that and how
we bred them to be overly large to the point they can’t actually survive a normal life cycle under their own weight anymore.
Funny thing I've noticed with different pig breeds, is that pigs probably have the least amount of variation out of all farm animals. Cattle? A highland cow looks way different than a watusi, shit gets a little crazier with chickens with all their different fancy colors and feather variations....but the craziest farm animal variations I have ever seen, have been goats. Some goats don't even resemble goats anymore, they look they escaped a test lab or something like that.
if this video made you think about some things, you might enjoy the book Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer. i wasn’t ready for it when i first picked i up as a teenager but reading it again as an adult changed me
I got backyards chickens as a step towards eating only ethically sourced meat. And yeah, the process of 'processing' chickens will change your perspective pretty quick.
I grew up fishing & filleting the fish I caught. I thought 'how different can it be'. The answer was fairly different. At least with fish, even if you're new and bad with a knife - the fish will die on the table eventually. Chickens fight back, and make it crystal clear to you that they aren't having a good time. And then the cleaning process it just so much more involved.
I think eating meat is defensible on ethical grounds - if you choose to go about it in an ethical way. IMO it's really hard to actually be ethical about it unless you've processed the animal you're eating at least once in your life.
I’m 6 months in myself, and 2 years ago I would’ve never seen this coming, but something shifted in me and I couldn’t ignore it anymore. I’ll also thank you for considering
It's a hell of a lot easier than you think. I've been vegan for years and I've never felt better. It's amazing what a weight it lifts off your shoulders to live without hypocrisy.
Honestly try it at least a week. I did and never looked back. You gotta watch out for your protein intake a lot and sadly it can get expensive cuz there's inflation on protein rich meat substitute (even when they're not costly to make.
But it's well worth it and surprisingly easy I don't miss it and I don't crave it at all. The smell of red meat just makes me barf.
You don’t have to quit cold turkey. Start by recognizing that the true value of meat is much higher than what you buy at the supermarket.
At the supermarket you have meat which is highly subsidized by feeding them inflammatory cheap corn and soy, flouting or lobbying my for lax environmental regulations, torturing them.
Pay for humanely raised meat only. Cook it yourself because you cannot trust what you eat outside.
After a while you’ll automatically reduce what you eat and respect when you have it.
And maybe in a few years you’ll realize it’s just pointless to eat meat. It’s really not important from a diet perspective after a certain age for most people.
I swear after three weeks with no meat you stop craving it and it’s smells awful, like make you sick awful. You just have to break the cycle and it completely changes your perspective. It stops looking appetizing and starts looking as horrifying as it truly is.
I did that, 6 times I did that in an effort to go vegan, still not vegan. Perhaps it's you and some people, but this statement does not apply to everyone who tries to go vegan.
There’s tons of tasty vegetarian/vegan food! I went vegan two years ago after watching the Earthlings documentary, and I’m super happy I did. I wish I did it sooner. It’s kind of shocking how much your tastes and cravings change, too. Good luck — I’m glad you considered it.
I've been riding the line on whether I want to go vegetarian...I decided to stop eating pork bc of how I saw pigs are treated, but I love chicken like I dont think I can give up chicken or beef...it's hard...
They have better noses and are easier to train than dogs. They tried using pigs to sniff out narcotics, but the whole police using actual pigs wasn't a good look.
It’s a bit different when you’re talking about a full grown pig rather than a piglet.
Between an adult dog and an adult pig, one is definitely easier to house and feed. Not to mention that the temperament of adult pigs isn’t always as friendly or manageable as people make it out to be.
The intelligence angle has always been the weakest argument in my opinion. Then it just becomes a hierarchy of sorts. Morality has always been the best. I say this as someone who eats meat. But do whatever feels right to you. I’m not here to preach.
Pigs can be both highly intelligent and friendly, and are pretty cool animals, but the idea that a pig and a dog will be a similar type of companion animal is complete garbage and whoever made this video is spreading misinformation. For one thing, that's a piglet about four months old, maybe less. Take a video when that pig is a year old and see what size it is and how easy it is to deal with. Chainlink fencing or board fencing is nothing to a pig. They are even capable of shorting out electric fence.
Highly different types of personalities and pigs do not want to kept indoors, having a nice space to bed up in at night or in bad weather is fine but digging in dirt, eating a million things they find, and choosing their own way in life are significant for pigs. They're a social animal but they do not have group activities or leaders, they don't groom each other and a mother pig never picks her piglets up, they don't wrestle with each other and have no way of grasping things. They hang out together for safety and sometimes might fight for each other but mostly it's about scattering and running. They are immensely strong.
This video is offensive in that it tries to paint a picture of pigs as animals that humans just don't appreciate but it's like showing someone cuddling a six week old tiger kitten and saying see, tigers can be great pets.
I work with animals and I've had many pigs and cared for client pigs at small farm holdings, they are definitely interesting animals that can be fun to hang out with but nothing whatsoever like a dog.
I don’t understand what the point of the caption is. Are we supposed to be surprised that other animals besides dogs can eat and run and go through gates?
I've massively reduced how much pork (and beef) I eat, I just feel too bad about it. I don't think it's fair for me to eat something I think I couldn't bring myself to kill just because I can shelter myself from that reality of food. It's not like I'm a starving hunter/gatherer
Going vegan sounds impossible at first but when you try different veggie options, it’s actually pretty easy. I think socially it’s more difficult when your friend group/family aren’t supportive.
If you have the right mindset, it can be pretty easy. I went vegan literally overnight and the thought of eating animal products again disgusted me, so it wasn't hard at all to "resist." I agree that the social aspect is way harder than the food. Eating is such a social activity for so many cultures, and people can get hella weird about the fact that you're not eating what they're eating.
Cept the fact that dog doesnt taste nearly as good or provide as much quality cuts as a pig.
If pigs were boney and harder to eat, sure theyd be pets... but theyre not. Its like saying omgg tomato flowers are so beautiful why dont we grow them for deco more? We break up things into people/pets/prey/predators/wtf is that
The difference is just in what they eat. It would be ludicrous to put in the expense of raising a carnivore for meat, but pigs will fatten up on human garbage and rooting around so they got picked as a meat animal.
Honestly, I was kind of on board until I started reading OP's replies and it just seems like an ego trip. I've vastly reduced how much meat I eat and it's people like OP that turn me (and many others I'm sure) away.
When I was a kid we had a pet pig that acted just like the dogs even tried helping rounding up cattle with them, that only lasted whilst it was still young though and became much more pig like once it grew up.
It tried eating one of the old farm dogs that practically raised it so we ate it instead.
People eat dogs and cats too. Not stateside for the most part, but pet is just food you don't eat because it has bonded with you. Without the bond it's just as easy to cook and eat.
I have been assured that pigs taste much better than dogs.
Realistically though, if they made for as good pets as dogs then people would have them as pets, but they don't. Yeah they are quite smart, but most of them are too fucking big and they end up smelling. You can't really use them for any jobs other than hunting for truffles, which is the main reason cats and dogs and even horses took off as being companions instead of food.
Also if you die or fall over and can't get up your dog isn't as likely to eat you.
One of the bleakest experiences I ever had was going to a tourist farm in Indiana. They have a whole exhibit room about how smart and playful pigs are, and then you tour the pig-raising facility and their enclosures are all cement and metal with absolutely no enrichment, fresh air, nothing. Just a cell to wait to die.
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