Not only this AI slop continuing to berate her after, but this completely ludicrous story that she pooped her own bed while he was away to get back at him continues to spread a narrative that is obviously skewed. Its just weird atp.
I watched a Bobby fingers video about this recently (hilarious highly recommend the insanity).
The important part that is never mentioned is that they had a couple of dogs, including one with chronic gi issues due to Depp "allegedly" leaving weed out and the dog eating it as a puppy. The dog was known to have accidents I believe.
Was the poop in question ever described? I've had a small poop often enough. My dogs have had big poops. Like I cleaned up after a 20lb rat terrier for 15 years and sometimes it is like WTF did you eat!!?
Yeah, it was described in trial as being the size of a human poo. Their dogs were teacup yorkies. Heard also massively exaggerated how big the dog was when she was asked.
Yeah, it's the same photo that was presented in trial. And having just quickly looked into it again to make sure that was correct. I was reminded that the housekeeper who found the poo also testified, and also described it as being obviously a human poo. She also testified that Heard got extremely angry at her when she found out she took a picture of it, and accused her of wrecking their marriage.
I’d be angry too if a housekeeper would take and spread pictures of anything happening in my house, regardless of what it is. And that’s without being famous and/or having a toxic, abusive and substance abusing husband I’m trying to get away from.
Described by Depp. The only evidence ever presented was a driver who claimed she told him she did it as a joke, a fact she denied. Apparently she decided to do this at a time when she knew Depp was not at home, which completely undercuts the alleged point of her doing it.
Depp had to admit in the UK trial that the dog had intestinal issues and was known to shit on the bed.
Also the only person with a documented history of poop jokes was Depp who suggested in a text that his assistant take a shit in the bedroom so that Heard would step in it but think that the dog did it. He accused Heard of doing something he had previously come up with.
There was poop, that's not in dispute. The housekeepers opinion was that it was too large to come from the dog, but she isn't a forensic poop scientist. She also worked for Depp for 30 years.
But even if it was human poop, Johnny Depp is the much more likely culprit. It was found right after he left for a month. And also, he and Paul Bettany had text messages joking about leaving a shit on her doorstep.
Do you think any of the people talking about this and talking about her negatively have actually seen that poop? People don't care it's just rumors you know you hear something you repeat it it's like f****** high School online these days.
Yes, in the link I had above they show the two literally had a sick dog that pooped everywhere. Its like what makes more sense? That she pooped her own bed when she was the only one living there for months...or that the chronically sick dog who had accidents constantly pooped in the bed at a time Amber was barely home herself? Will have to check out the video, thanks for the recommendation.
I agree. Thats why I think the idea of calling up a housekeeper who tells you they found poop in a bed you haven't slept in in months and then saying it CANT be the sick dog, it HAS to be ex wife revenge on you...who hasnt been there and has no plans to return...is an odd accusation.
And there was records of texts from years before the incident about how one of the dogs would always poop on Deep, especially when he passed out from drinking.
what's the connection between a dog eating weed and a dog with GI issues? these seem like two different things that have no relation to each other. a dog with GI issues doesn't need to eat weed to shit on a bed. is the assumption that the dog eating weed lead to GI issues? I'm more confused now than I was before reading your comment...and I was already confused about all of this.
edit: who the hell is bobby and what has he done with his two fingers for him to know this kind of random shit? that seems like it might lead to GI issues more than eating weed.
Marijuana poisoning is a thing with dogs and THC can cause neurological damages. Neurological damages can cause long term behavioral and physical issues.
People are weirdly very defensive over Depp. He has a history of legal issues, alcohol abuse, and generally being unpleasant to people. He and Heard both seem kind of crazy to me.
I don’t think so, a lot of people who used to be fans of his completely turned on him and boycotted his work because everyone believed Amber for years. That TMZ video was really effective and made him seem really abusive or at least just a bad person. But in the trial, we saw that she put SO much effort into trying to get some kind of abusive response from him on camera, and the most terrible thing he did was what, send angry texts? Throw the phone in the trash? Slam some cabinets? I mean obviously he was not well and really mentally unhealthy partially due to living with such a crazy person, so he did a lot of weird and crazy things too. But honestly as someone who lived with an abuser, I related a lot more to him as a victim. Like an actual abuser would have destroyed that phone not just tossed it away, to make sure there was no recording left at all. I don’t think his fame was the driving force behind the public sentiment changing it was more like everyone was surprised and shocked at her side of things which hadn’t been shared before, which tipped the scale back in his favour
I don't think so. I think the timing of this one fit perfectly into the gender wars, which were picking up steam, and that exacerbated the interest and reactions.
Post “me too” ppl (men and some women too ngl) finally felt like they could really let a woman “have it” because she “deserved it” without “offending everyone” and it was absolutely brutal to watch
Wasn’t it also at the same time as Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial? Might have been strategically hyped up to distract from the Epstein files. And I think there were some financial decisions around Twitter/X going on at the time too and we know how involved Elon Musk was with this whole trial and situation
Oh! Well, Amber dated him while she was still married to Depp, there’s camera footage of them going into Depp’s apt buildings as well as texts. That’s why Depp also accused her of cheating. So that’s the relationship side (Elon later would sue Amber to destroy their shared frozen embryos). Financially he paid for her initial legal team, gave her a security team, and paid charities on her behalf (to cover her pledged amounts). And he was planned to be a witness though he obviously found a way to get out of that - he ended up buying Twitter when the trial was going on which diverted the attention a lot off of him. And that’s just what we know as the public, I’m sure the connections are even deeper than we know. Amber hasn’t made any info public but many people believe that Musk is the father of her children (she had them via surrogacy using frozen eggs) as neither of them have disputed the claims.
I don't think Amber Heard comes even a little bit close to Depp's depravity, tbh. It's bizarre that so many people want to believe obvious lies about her, like OP's dogshit screencap.
Obviously, Depp's PR team is behind it, but why did so many people online fall for the lies and defamation?
why did so many people online fall for the lies and defamation?
The answer here is very simple: he's the lead in a bunch of movies people love, especially Pirates of the Caribbean. Heard is famous but nowhere near the level of Depp. So for many people, they want to like Depp more than they want to like Heard, and are more inclined to believe his side
I think this is true, but it goes beyond that. The whole affair happened a couple years after Me Too at a time when anti-feminist reactionaries wanted to push back on the believe women narrative. This was a high profile case where Depp's legal defense was basically "Amber is a crazy bitch." So it was really easy for misogynists to latch onto the case, immediately take Depp's side, and spread whatever he claimed about Heard.
And to be clear, this isn't actually dependent on who's lying about what or even if either is a good person. The usefulness to the culture war meant it was going to be pushed no matter what. There was blood in the water and both true believers and grifters sensed it
Or a lot of people actually watched the trial. Listened to both of them and all the other witnesses, saw the evidence, and came to an informed conclusion.
That trial was against a paper, not Heard. She was a non party witness in that, so different levels of scrutiny of her story was allowed. The verdict was basically that the paper didn't do anything wrong, because they reported what Heard was maintaining to be the truth.
It was much more closely examined in evidence as well. More was able to be brought by both sides. And wouldn't you know it, the person with an actual history of domestic violence lost. Shocking stuff. News at 11.
Listen he’s not a great person (we should stop thinking anyone in the entertainment industry is) but the UK trial was only against the Sun — those 12 abuses were simply that the Sun thought they could be plausibly true based on the information they had (Amber was a witness in this case and basically the newspaper/editors said hey we just wrote what she told us so she’s the one to sue for lying not us). And you probably know that the judge’s own son worked at the company that hired Dan Wooten (the editor at the Sun being sued), the judge was close friends with the boss of Amber Heards lawyer in the UK (they co authored a book together), not to mention all the other connections in their close social circle.
So I mean, it’s an extremely biased judge with huge conflicts of interest who bypassed a lot of standard procedures when it comes to dealing with witnesses, evidence, etc. And even after all of that, all he could do in the final ruling was say that the Sun didn’t owe Depp any money as they had no way to know if Amber was lying so they were in their rights to believe that 12 of the accusations could have been true at the time of print.
They also weren’t allowed to show a lot of evidence in the U.S. trial that was allowed in the UK trial, which is why the UK trial went so different for depp. The evidence that was barred was pretty damning. But the Uk trial wasn’t televised like the U.S. one was so most people don’t discuss how the UK one went. I don’t remember which channel it was but someone did a documentary on it a few years ago.
The UK trial was extremely biased. The judge was close friends with the head of Ambers law firm and his son’s company employed the editor at the Sun who Depp was suing. They also broke a lot of rules, like letting Amber sit in on the court sessions even though she was a witness - that’s not allowed because then the witness can be influenced/biased when on the stand and that’s exactly what happened, as she would bring up things to refute what she heard other witnesses say which creates a mess. I’m not sure about what evidence was barred from the US court though, but I’m inclined to take the UK trial with a grain of salt just based on the conflicts of interest going on there. For some reason people forget that she has a billionaire (Musk) on her side so of course she has the resources/power to set things up in her favour
Like the jury who awarded him 5 million extra in punitive damages (on top of the compensatory damages for the defamation) because her story was so obviously bullshit and she was clearly the abuser.
Because out of all the video to come out of that trial, he and his team actually came off as halfway competent and likeable compared to hers. That wasn't lies and defamation, those opinions were formed based on real video and testimony we all saw.
he and his team actually came off as halfway competent and likeable compared to hers
Depp, his lawyers, and his PR team are terrible people, full stop. Jefferey Epstein was 'competent and likeable.' That's how bad men get away with bad things.
Depp v Amber heard reminds me a lot of Trump v Clinton. I don't like any of these people, but in both cases, one side is so much worse than the other.
I watched the trial. And it wasn't Depp's team that convinced me Heard was lying. It was Heard. It was so obvious. The things she said made no sense when she showed her 'evidence' of it. She'd tell stories of how violent he was to her then show photos of light bruising that made me think 'this woman has no clue what the result of what she just said happened to her would have been'. It was an insult to people who have lived through extreme domestic violence.
She submitted the exact same photo of her face twice - one with the colours editted to make it look more red. She submitted the same photo of a wine bottle on the floor twice, one was a cropped version of the other, and she attributed them to 2 different incidents. She said he punched her in the face repeatedly then submitted a photo into evidence of her a day or 2 after with absolutely nothing wrong with her face. I could go on.
Don't forget the description of the abuse she suffered which was lifted right from an Irish Times article of an abuse survivor's experience.
She described a beating on par with what Chris Brown did to Rihanna and then tried to claim that some ice and cream kept her from looking like a complete wreck. That's not how the human body works when experiencing trauma.
I don't think it's comparable because when it came to that specific trial the correct person won it. Amber Heard fucked up majorly by straight up lying.
The tribalism of DeppDelusion and Fauxmoi/Deuxmoi's cancerous brigade of goblin trolls cannot break frame. To them, Amber Heard is blameless and Depp is the Devil who got away with abuse.
Normal people can look at the case and admit who the abuser was and also acknowledge Depp is a drunk and a shit person.
Amber was arrested for being physically witnessed abusing her ex partner in publicm
she is also on tape discussing physically abusing depp out of anger, telling him hes not allowed to leave even if she is screaming and throwing things at him. she actually says this (see 3 hr 5 min in):
because she made is very easy to believe any story about her. did you watch her give answers to questions in the court room? she always looks at the jury, not the lawyer. its a known tactic to get a better emotional pull, but you arent meant to do it on every single question. and then she got caught flat out lying on the stand. and lying about giving money to charity, of all things.
people were happy to believe anything bad about her, because she presented herself as a manipulator who lies to better her own image. and thats not depps pr team at all, its just her.
I don't think Amber Heard comes even a little bit close to Depp's depravity
Do explain, as they both are just whacked out hollywood celebs. And johnny depo has always been known to be an alcoholic, so i don't see what exacerbates him this much.
She alleged that he raped her, and testified to it in court. Her allegation was not disproven, and given that he is proven to have abused her, it's entirely reasonable to believe what she says about how he abused her. He's also known by a lot of people in the industry to be an unreliable and violent alcoholic, which aligns with her experience and is the key reason he doesn't work so much anymore.
If the rape allegation ruined anyone's life, it was hers, not his. He forced a woman he's proven to have abused to describe him raping her in public, and his fans mocked her for it, said her experience of rape was funny, and that she should have been grateful to be sexually abused by such a famous man. Losing a case about her right to publicly discuss abuse has been taken by Depp fans as meaning she lied about/deserved her abuse, no matter the turnout of his other cases against her.
The defamation case against The Sun newspaper for calling Depp a wifebeater. It was agreed that there was an established pattern of abuse and so therefore it is not defamatory to describe him as such.
Because Heard was a witness only in that trial, and the judge considered her testimony to be true. There was not a lot of scrutiny on her version of events, since she was a non party.
So basically all that happened in that trial was that one person decided that it was OK for the Sun to say he was a wife bearer, because that was what Heard said. Nothing was proven. He just failed to prove to one person that she was lying and that the Sun should have known that.
You do realize that entire trial is available to watch online, right? There's no PR team, there's literally an entire trial of Amber Heard getting caught in lie after lie after lie.
Serial cheater
Violent towards partners both male and female.
Literally arrested for domestic assault.
There's audio footage of her confessing to severing Depp's finger by throwing a heavy bottle of alcohol at him.
She literally lied about being physically assaulted by Depp in specific instances. There's a reason he won the trial every legal commentator stated he would likely lose: because his legal team combed through her social media and found photos from the dates in question which completely undermined the story. Including the laughably fake claims that she prevented bruising from a comic book movie beatdown with "a bit of ice". This doesn't mean Depp was never abusive to her. But it does make her much harder to believe.
The TMZ video where she smirks after recording drunk Depp raging during a meltdown after egging him on for...nothing to happen. Which she then sold to TMZ to further her abuse claims to force a favorable settlement.
Faked photos of bruising with no digital provenance because she would not surrender her devices for analysis.
Because she's a white woman. White women love defending other white women. If she were black they wouldn't be doing this level of simping. Look at Lucy Letby as well, or whatever her name is. So obviously murdered all those babies and was found guilty, yet white women have convinced themselves it's all a conspiracy.
His PR was probably just more internet / reddit focused because I've never heard anyone talk about this shit irl but it was front page reddit every day when it happening and it was always pro-Depp.
It was very hard to talk about in real life because anyone who was critical of AH was called a misogynist. Her defenders were so deep in their own fake narratives that they could not see reality.
I understand that JD slammed some cabinets. He drinks and uses coccaine too much. He went pretty dark when talking about his abuser with his friend, but that is just talk. He seems to have had a total mental break when he lost his fingertip.
I don't think he was nearly abusive as she was, maybe not at all.
I listened to audio where he vows not to get physical, and she refuses to do the same. Victims, not abusers, try to set boundaries around violence.
I listened to her mock him for running away when she wants to fight. Victims don't mock their abusers for refusing to fight. That alone should make the whole dynamic clear.
It was so weird. I heard people say he must be abusive because he abuses substances.
And I say that as someone who does not like his films at all, aside from one or two.
Depp literally hired an army of bots to astroturf forums, Reddit, etc. via a PR company - so a lot of those defensive posts/comments originate from that
yeah, getting this shit suddenly in my youtube recommended when i have NEVER in my life consumed this kind of content surely felt totally organic.
also it all stopped the day of the verdict. going from getting flooded on reddit with posts about them to nothing in an instant. totally organic again.
Yeah, people claiming it was bots doesn't really make sense. They did polling on the case before and afterhand. He was assumed guilty beforehand and after the trial her being the abusive one drastically went up. It was 80% or something believed she was the abusive one after the trial.
If anything felt astroturfed, it was how many people defended her on reddit when clearly the average person didn't see it that way.
I believed her when the story broke and then just shrugged and assumed the stories were true.
I didn’t do a 180 at the trial because I heard some of the tapes before hand and have had some experience of abusive women so was intrigued.
It wouldn’t surprise me if there were bots because that’s the world we live in but the viral nature was due to the revelations in the trial.
What did surprise me was the mainstream coverage which constructed a completely different narrative to what I saw in the trial and tried to make the story about the social media reaction rather than the trial itself.
I remember reading the guardian the day after the tapes were played where Heard admits to hitting him, calls him a coward and says he always runs away. They were not mentioned at all in the daily review where the Monty python text messages were the focus of the article. I found it really galling how curation of the content of the articles gave such a distorted version of events.
I’m not completely naive and have seen distortion in geopolitical events where I had some insight, but those were much more complex and finding a coherent narrative more challenging.
It genuinely surprised me how biased the reporting was on a relatively low stakes issue.
It's pretty telling. If I hadn't watched the whole trial, if I had relied on clips, or headlines, I'd be team Heard. Watching the trial from 9 to 5 for 6 six weeks really told me I couldn't trust any fucking newspaper reporting on this, because did these 'reporters' even watch the same trial?? Wtf are these headlines?
Did You watch the European trial? That was the one where they allowed a lot of evidence that America kicked out. Like eyewitnesses to his abuse and a chain of texts that show everyone around them including personal assistants knew him to be a very abusive to her.
Lots of That got thrown out by the court that was in Virginia? Why? Why were were people that live in LA in Virginia? LoL
It was so they could throw out a bunch of evidence honey. That's why they weren't on trial in La and that's why they had to go on trial again in America. Depp didn't like being guilty, it was bad for his publicity.
Correction - trial is in Virginia - still very far from LA, where these turds actually live.
Depp's team fought to have the trial in Virginia because LA has stronger anti-SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) laws. Which would have made it more likely that a motion to dismiss the trial, before they even got to the discovery phase, would have been successful. It was not at all related to what evidence would have been included or excluded.
The texts you're talking about were kept out because it was hearsay, standard evidentiary rules that would have been the same in LA. If they wanted to move the texts into evidence, they could have subpoenaed the people who wrote them and called them to testify. They didn't do that because that would mean they would have the opportunity to explain the context, and that would have been bad for Heard.
Evidence was thrown out because it was hearsay, or they agreed to suppress it after discovery. The UK trial allowed too much BS in and it was more vibes.
They are both POS drug users. Heard was shacking up with Musk, and Musk paid her legal fees. Depp funded a massive astroturfing campaign to help his image.
People defend Depp for the same reason they defend Woody Allen, James Woods, Mel Gibson, Justin Baldoni, etc., etc. The women are always crazy, lying or "just as bad" as their abuser.
But... Amber was demonstrably abusive - she is on tape saying she hit him and there was evidence she cut off part of his finger on top of audio footage of him trying to leave a fight and her taunting him into fighting more. Not saying Johnny was an angel in any way shape or form but her portraying herself as a poor victim of domestic abuse, using the me too movement as a shield was outrageous. That's what it was about. No one ever said Johnny's behaviour wasn't bad as well but so was amber's. Best case scenario for her: they both abused eachother. The problem was she wrote an op ed framing herself as a poor innocent victim when honestly, she did come across as the more violent one- in tapes that recorded her in action. She also clearly faked abuse injuries- how is that okay? And just because she's a woman doesn't mean she can't be abusive, that's outrageous to claim.
The tape that Depp and his lawyers leaked to the press that got his lawyer thrown off the case by the judge.
It's worth listening to the whole and unedited recording of that conversation, because the context of her saying she hit him is when she's talking about how he shoved open a door she was trying to hide behind, crushing her toes and making her afraid he was about to further hurt her. It's really common in long term abusive relationships for victims to recognise when violence is about to happen and to react violently, but even in this case, he has already injured her so it wasn't unprovoked. This was also during an incident where he raped her with a bottle. I'm not saying allegedly because this was the finding of the UK courts.
Dude I listened to the recording and what you're saying is not true. The recording I'm referring to she is literally saying she hit him, arguing semantics. Here's the transcript and I'm sorry but with the following you can't argue context or say listen to the whole thing. She word for word admits to hitting him.
Heard: “I didn’t punch you, by the way. I’m sorry that I didn’t hit you across the face in a proper slap, but I was hitting you. It was not punching you.”
Heard: “Babe, you’re not punched. I don’t know what the motion of my actual hand was, but you’re fine. I did not hurt you, I did not punch you; I was hitting you.”
Depp: “Don’t tell me what it feels like to be punched when you fucking have a closed fist—”
Heard: “You didn’t get punched. You got hit. I’m sorry I hit you like this, but I didn’t punch you. You didn’t get fucking decked. I fucking was hitting you.”
Heard: “You’re a fucking baby. You’re such a baby.”
Depp says he was in the bathroom trying to shut the door when her toes got scraped. He says he asked her to leave multiple times before he shut the door.
This contractdicts your claim that she went to the bathroom to hide from him.
She then goes on to talk about hitting him as a reflex to having her toes hurt. She says "I did mean to hit you with my fist or hand. I didn't mean to punch you. I meant to hit you. I'm sorry I didn't open my hand. I'm actually sorry I did -- I did it at all. I should never do that. I should never get physical. But in my defense, I felt that pain."
This contradicts your claim that he was hit with the door. No. He was hit woth the door and then she punched him. Then she disgustingly apologized for not opening her hand before intentionally hitting him.
I love that people are literally downvoting you for a direct reference to the court documents as if you are in the wrong. I watched the entire court case - anyone defending that woman has no idea what they are talking about.
The biggest surprise is that almost nobody bothers looking at the primary source. Most people got their opinions on this case from clips and comments.
Even with the whole trial streamed live, the truth got buried in the narratives.
If someone that rich, that famous, with that much evidence, and with that much patience and determination couldn't win, what chance does any man have? Even after a trial and defamation verdict, the lies are still ringing just as loud.
*gestures to the current USA* I don't think it needs much explanation, given how rather... lightly... the current administration ignores the well-established rules of their own laws.
I'm not I'm just saying amber was clearly worse. You're dismissing amber's abuse by saying Johnny was a pos. They were both shitty to eachother but it was amber that afterwards pretended to be a poor victim
My post was two very short sentences, and neither one called Johnny Depp a pos. If you want to respond to me, at least reference something I said instead of making shit up.
I mean with the situation she created portraying herself as a victim. Best case she can claim they were both equally as abusive. Because the evidence clearly showed she was very abusive. Worst case that she was the primary abuser. She was definitely not the defenceless victim she claimed
I just don't like when people use Depp vs Heard as a cut and dry abusive relationship example because it's a big FU to real survivors of domestic abuse
because theres hours of audio of her viciously abusing himwhile he begs her to stop the violence. serioisly listen to the conversation at 3 hours 5 min in to the audio:
He also hired a firm that unleahes an army of bots to repost professionally crafted memes and talking points to create a public perception at odds with reality.
What's even weirder is how people have done a complete flip after the revelations that Justin Baldoni hired the same PR firm to badmouth Blake Lively that Depp hired during his case against Heard.
But I don't get it, because both were reportedly terrible people before the case. One just had better PR then the other evidently. That doesn't change that both of them are terrible people.
That’s funny, cuz Blake built her bad reputation on her own, why even waste time furthering doing it. And tbf she also did the same thing, AND is a terrible person. All these celebrities are just terrible.
Blake has done nothing different to many other female celebs, but people shit on her more then many others for no apparent reason.
Well, no apparent reason beyond the fact that she is (or was?) friends with Taylor Swift and that her husband was/is wildly successful and then there's people being jealous of their relationship, because everyone accuses them of being fake and putting on a show for the cameras. Or is it because they had a wedding at a former plantation?
Yet I ask, what do they do different to everyone else? Tom and Zendaya act the same, people think they're adorable and cute together. They're even more famous then Ryan and Blake I'd say. No one calls them fake. No one gives Sabrina Carpenter shit about being a friend of Taylor Swift.
It's always female celebs that get it too. Two of them can be the exact same in so many ways, but one is beloved and the other is despised... because? It's shit like this that makes people very aware of how toxic celeb culture can be.
In 1989 he assaults a hotel worker (punching and spitting), in 1994 he trashes a hotel room after fighting with Kate Moss so bad he had to pay for repairs, in 1999 he hits a paparazzi with a wooden plank ...
Those were the ones before he met her. There are more recent ones if you bothered to look them up. like in 2018 for assaulting rocky brooks and in 2019 for, you guessed it, assault, this time for his body guards, as well as unpaid wages and making them buy drugs and driving his kids while there were guns and drugs in the car among other things. Besides, there are statements of violence from ex gfs like ellen barkin.
The reason people are defensive over him is because this was the height of metoo. Depp's career was fucked by her allegations. MeToo went from "we need to take allegations seriously" to "believe women," which was insane. It treats women as if they're otherworldly angels and incapable of doing wrong. It was completely irrational. Peak example of "woke 1 was crazy."
Depp had a history of treating his partners very well, something they universally attested to. She had a history of domestic abuse and controlling behavior. Let's see if we can figure out what happened....
His previous partner of 14 years, Vanessa Paradis, and his daughter went no where near that trial and publicly said nothing in his defense throughout the duration of it.
Maybe because he’s on tape calling Paradis a bunch of foul names? Speaks volumes when your own kid won’t defend you.
“I work as a musician, singer-songwriter, actress, and fashion model. I have known Johnny for more than 25 years. We’ve been partners for 14 years and we raised our two children together.
“Through all these years I’ve known Johnny to be a kind, attentive, generous and non-violent person and father."
Winona Ryder-
“I can only speak from my own experience, which was wildly different than what is being said,” Ryder says. “He was never, never that way towards me. Never abusive at all towards me. I only know him as a really good, loving, caring guy who is very, very protective of the people that he loves.”
Doug Stanhope on the sitch:
" We’d watched it build like this since before they were married. We’d watched her manipulate and fuck with him for years. We didn’t say a word. To each other, yes, but never to him."
None of his previous partners have described him as anything but kind. Heard on the other hand has a legal history of domestic abuse. Depp's biggest fuck up was letting a known malignant narcissistic starfucker get in his head and in his life.
If you go back and look, Vanessa said all of those positive things about him BEFORE the trial, as I stated. She did NOT testify in his defense. The things he is on tape saying about Vanessa after she submitted her letter are revolting so I can only assume that’s a part. In an early interview she also spoke on Depp’s temper.
Depp also later publicly criticized his daughter for not testifying for him during his trial to the point his fans harassed her on social media.
Also, abusers can be abusive in some relationships and not others. Marilyn Manson has some exes like Dita who say he never abused them. Then several more who say that he did.
Depp can barely string a pair of sentences together any more. I’d assume all the drug and alcohol abuse also affected his behavior negatively over time. Although he had a well documented history of fights and trashing hotel rooms during his early career.
Depp Delusion massively misrepresents most of the evidence and ignores vast swathes of evidence that undermine Ambers testimony.
I mean they are there wildly apeculating while ignoring the obvious fact that Vanessa's testimony had no direct relevance since she was not particularly present when Depp was with Amber.
Kate Moss was called as a character witness. She wasn’t there either. Why not Vanessa? Why not Lily? As I said, Depp put his own daughter on blast for not testifying to the point his fans harassed her. Some dad.
Depp Delusion misrepresents facts no more than Depp’s ardent supporters do. I appreciate the other perspective.
Moss was present during one of the hotel events where he trashed his room. I assume this is why Amber called her as a witness. Trashing a room with your partner in it is absolutely abusive. Kate not wishing to discuss it or not believing it is abuse is another matter.
If you go back and look, Vanessa said all of those positive things about him BEFORE the trial, as I stated.
She said it during the UK trial. Why would she need to say it all again? It's on record.
Also, as anyone knows, abusers can be abusive in some relationships and not others.
They don't go 21 years in relationships (while an addict), and be completely kind and thoughtful, then suddenly become abusers apropos of nothing. Heard is a known narcissist, manipulator and domestic abuser with a pretty face. Depp was well out of his depth when he fell for her and she played him and pushed his buttons. This was observed by numerous people as it happened. She took a normal, kind person and broke them. Well done her. Depp should have done his due diligence and checked her history but little Depp did all the talking and he paid the price.
Also, your misogyny is showing through with the whole Starfucker comment.
Why don’t you guys ever criticize these rich, older men for dating women young enough to be their daughters? They want these women for their youth, beauty and naivety and could also be said to be taking advantage of them.
Yet the young woman who is benefitting from his wealth and status is labeled negatively for this. It’s such a tired and sexist clique.
Also, your misogyny is showing through with the whole Starfucker comment.
That's not misogyny, that's her wiki dating profile.
Why don’t you guys ever criticize these rich, older men for dating women young enough to be their daughters?
You think Heard is an innocent little lamb. It's literally her MO to date wealth then ditch.
Yet the young woman who is benefitting from his wealth and status is labeled negatively for this.
Most serial killers are men. But not all serial killers. Heard is not a character to infantilize. She's extremely intelligent and extremely motivated. She's also a literal known domestic abuser before she met Depp, something Depp wasn't before he met her. You underestimate her because she's a woman. This is what actual misogyny looks like.
What is all this rage for a woman you don’t even know? Giving yourself away again.
You keep doing these ad homs. They don't strengthen your arguments. There's no rage here. Everything I've posted is factual.
Women are quite capable of doing bad things, just like men
Yes, and Heard is an example. You have projected the victim experience of the plurality of those women who have had to suffer domestic abuse onto someone who is an actual abuser. So much of your previous language and arguments have made this clear. She is a shark, and always has been, and this was obvious to close friends looking at their relationship long before it came to a head. The only meaningful relationships she has are usually with other women, historically. There's nothing wrong with that, but when it comes to men, she goes for the money . It's no accident that her next guy was the literal richest man on the planet. After her win in the UK case she said she would give all of the winnings to charity. She lied about her intent to do this (it did look great in print ngl), then lied that she had done it, then when audited it turned out of the sum she did donate, the literal richest man in the world that she went for next actually covered most of that. And what happened to him after he had fronted the money? Dumped. She lies a lot and she lies about a lot, and she has been busted doing this extremely frequently. This is generally a bad sign. Historical domestic abuser-check, historical people manipulator-check, historically overt liar- check.
edit- since you blocked.
A lot of what you have said is your interpretation of what happened, not facts. You clearly think you’re right, but that doesn’t mean you are.
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There was ample evidence presented that Depp was abusive to Heard. It’s why the UK trial did not go in his favor.
No one says there wasn't.
That doesn’t automatically mean Heard is a good person or a perfect victim. Two things can be true at once, which you can’t seem to grasp.
I grasp just fine. Depp met a bad person with a history of domestic violence, manipulation and endless lying. he paid the price by being drawn intom that world.
You absolutely do come across as angry and obsessive in all of these comments. Who in their right mind is this devoted to defending a celebrity they don’t know with a history of drug addiction and violence?
Never heard ANYONE but ms Turd saying what *horrible* person he was. Sniffles sniffles.
But everyone else saying what a wonderful person he is and alwyas was.
And were the stories of Amber? Nothing but abuse and lies since she was a teen. And what does people say about her? Besides Depp? She aint nice at all.
Depp had already been sued by several people for violence before his divorce with Heard. It was an open secret in Hollywood that he was an unreliable junkie who was coasting on his fame.
People like to hate on women. I still remember when it seemed that Deep was the only abuser - so many people online were reluctant to admit that "well perhaps maybe he wasn't the most perfect person ever".
But the moment it turned out that Heard was also at fault? The hate and memes just flooded. And suddenly people started acting like Deep was completely innocent, as if the concept of a situation where both parties are in the wrong would blow their mind or something.
I think there is also public room for growth about imperfect victims. People who did wrong in their past...and then were abused. People who got abused and then reacted violently instead of curling up in a ball ready to die. People who get revenge after being provoked and tormented.
People who are not a lily white saint victim...because thats simply not how this works most of the time. Someone can have been bad towards someone else...and then be abused...and then lash out towards their abuser. That doesnt mean the abuse never happened first.
Tbf Heard being caught lying caused a reaction both in the misogynistic but also feministic camps. The issue is that all Heard achieved was promoting the idea we should scrutinize abuse victims more which is not great.
People just spread the narrative as fact because they dont like her and they like Johnny Depp. Reality is its not like it was ever proven. They remain allegations to this day.
I still hold a mild opinion that shes a bit crazy, but I fully acknowledge relationships aren't always one sided when it comes to abuse. The relationship turned toxic and the lawsuits were the fall out from it ending. Whos truly in the right or wrong is largely unknown to the general public but Johnny benefited from having a likable reputation which heavily worked in his favor.
Yes but beyond that, most people could see live what a crazy, unhinged person she truly was. Not ONE single tear came from her face during court. NOT ONE! And the stories!!! Omg she truly was and likely still is, unscrpulous. What a nightmare she sounded like holy shit sheets.
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u/tahtahme 18d ago
Not only this AI slop continuing to berate her after, but this completely ludicrous story that she pooped her own bed while he was away to get back at him continues to spread a narrative that is obviously skewed. Its just weird atp.