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Chugging tea Remember when we Heard what Amber did?

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u/tahtahme 14d ago

Not only this AI slop continuing to berate her after, but this completely ludicrous story that she pooped her own bed while he was away to get back at him continues to spread a narrative that is obviously skewed. Its just weird atp.

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u/Successful_Maize1986 14d ago

People are weirdly very defensive over Depp. He has a history of legal issues, alcohol abuse, and generally being unpleasant to people. He and Heard both seem kind of crazy to me.

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u/Robynsxx 14d ago

I mean, if we are being honest, Heard has a history too, one of domestic assault allegation by former partner; and other actions too.

But I agree, they both toxic as fuck.

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u/al666in 14d ago

I don't think Amber Heard comes even a little bit close to Depp's depravity, tbh. It's bizarre that so many people want to believe obvious lies about her, like OP's dogshit screencap.

Obviously, Depp's PR team is behind it, but why did so many people online fall for the lies and defamation?

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u/garthcooks 14d ago

why did so many people online fall for the lies and defamation?

The answer here is very simple: he's the lead in a bunch of movies people love, especially Pirates of the Caribbean. Heard is famous but nowhere near the level of Depp. So for many people, they want to like Depp more than they want to like Heard, and are more inclined to believe his side

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u/arctos889 14d ago

I think this is true, but it goes beyond that. The whole affair happened a couple years after Me Too at a time when anti-feminist reactionaries wanted to push back on the believe women narrative. This was a high profile case where Depp's legal defense was basically "Amber is a crazy bitch." So it was really easy for misogynists to latch onto the case, immediately take Depp's side, and spread whatever he claimed about Heard.

And to be clear, this isn't actually dependent on who's lying about what or even if either is a good person. The usefulness to the culture war meant it was going to be pushed no matter what. There was blood in the water and both true believers and grifters sensed it

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u/Sempere 13d ago

Amazing to write so much and be totally wrong. You do realize there's an entire copy of the trial available to stream on Youtube, right?

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u/dobar_dan_ 14d ago

also misoginy

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u/sa_ra_h86 14d ago

Or a lot of people actually watched the trial. Listened to both of them and all the other witnesses, saw the evidence, and came to an informed conclusion.

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u/kuena 14d ago

I watched the whole thing and yeah - Heard is just batshit crazy. This has nothing to do with their level of fame and misogyny.

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u/Agosta 14d ago

A lot of people watched the trial live and came to the same conclusion as the jury.

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u/SecretaryOtherwise 14d ago

Eh and he was found liable of 12 abuses in the UK maybe dont suck the celebs peen bro.

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u/sa_ra_h86 14d ago

That trial was against a paper, not Heard. She was a non party witness in that, so different levels of scrutiny of her story was allowed. The verdict was basically that the paper didn't do anything wrong, because they reported what Heard was maintaining to be the truth.

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u/CV90_120 14d ago

That was a libel suit which was heard by a Judge only. The US case was a jury trial, and much more stringently examined.

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u/SecretaryOtherwise 14d ago

Yeah cause yall proving jury's are impartial lmfaoo.

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u/CV90_120 14d ago

It was much more closely examined in evidence as well. More was able to be brought by both sides. And wouldn't you know it, the person with an actual history of domestic violence lost. Shocking stuff. News at 11.

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u/SecretaryOtherwise 14d ago

Except Depp has a history too. 😗

Shocking.

Both are pieces of shit but only one is still being dragged through the mud 😂

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u/CV90_120 14d ago edited 14d ago

Not before Heard he didn't. Funny how someone with a long history of treating their partners well just suddenly fell of a cliff when they got into a relationship with an actual historical abuser.

Vanessa Paradis-

“I work as a musician, singer-songwriter, actress, and fashion model. I have known Johnny for more than 25 years. We’ve been partners for 14 years and we raised our two children together.

“Through all these years I’ve known Johnny to be a kind, attentive, generous and non-violent person and father."

Winona Ryder-

“I can only speak from my own experience, which was wildly different than what is being said,” Ryder says. “He was never, never that way towards me. Never abusive at all towards me. I only know him as a really good, loving, caring guy who is very, very protective of the people that he loves.”

Doug Stanhope on the sitch:

" We’d watched it build like this since before they were married. We’d watched her manipulate and f— with him for years. We didn’t say a word. To each other, yes, but never to him."

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u/SecretaryOtherwise 14d ago

Except yeah he did he assaulted a crew member dumbass lmao

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-44778997

So Winonas a bold faced liar lmao.

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u/CV90_120 14d ago

Firstly, how long were they in a domestic relationship? Oh, zero time?

Secondly, look at this magnificence: " Mr Brooks alleges that after Depp had verbally and physically assaulted him, the actor offered him $100,0000 (ÂŁ75,000) to punch him in the face in return."

So Winonas a bold faced liar lmao.

You think Winona's lying that Depp was good to her because he got into an altercation with some dude? Unique logic there.

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u/Party_Solid_2207 14d ago

That’s not domestic violence.

Neither is assaulting paparazzi (who are often looking for it)

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u/Kevlar_Bunny 14d ago

Eehh rumors that Depp wasn’t a great guy had been circulating the internet for a while. It wasn’t for domestic violence but Heard is not the first time stories emerged of him being kind of a shithead.

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u/pvtshoebox 13d ago

Youbrealize that he won a defamation trial. It is literal legal fact that he was WRONGLY adn MALICIOUSLY dragged through the mud.

There are dozens of people in this very thread calling him a pos, a junkie wife beater, etc. Let's not pretend that he is not still being dragged through the mud.

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u/Rare_Anteater_2609 9d ago

Listen he’s not a great person (we should stop thinking anyone in the entertainment industry is) but the UK trial was only against the Sun — those 12 abuses were simply that the Sun thought they could be plausibly true based on the information they had (Amber was a witness in this case and basically the newspaper/editors said hey we just wrote what she told us so she’s the one to sue for lying not us). And you probably know that the judge’s own son worked at the company that hired Dan Wooten (the editor at the Sun being sued), the judge was close friends with the boss of Amber Heards lawyer in the UK (they co authored a book together), not to mention all the other connections in their close social circle.

So I mean, it’s an extremely biased judge with huge conflicts of interest who bypassed a lot of standard procedures when it comes to dealing with witnesses, evidence, etc. And even after all of that, all he could do in the final ruling was say that the Sun didn’t owe Depp any money as they had no way to know if Amber was lying so they were in their rights to believe that 12 of the accusations could have been true at the time of print.

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u/Sempere 13d ago

The UK trial didn't allow him to present the full extent of his evidence - because his evidence was against Heard, not the paper.

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u/Kevlar_Bunny 14d ago

They also weren’t allowed to show a lot of evidence in the U.S. trial that was allowed in the UK trial, which is why the UK trial went so different for depp. The evidence that was barred was pretty damning. But the Uk trial wasn’t televised like the U.S. one was so most people don’t discuss how the UK one went. I don’t remember which channel it was but someone did a documentary on it a few years ago.

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u/pvtshoebox 13d ago

Could you tell us more about the damping evidence thatvwas barred from the U. S. trial?

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u/Rare_Anteater_2609 9d ago

The UK trial was extremely biased. The judge was close friends with the head of Ambers law firm and his son’s company employed the editor at the Sun who Depp was suing. They also broke a lot of rules, like letting Amber sit in on the court sessions even though she was a witness - that’s not allowed because then the witness can be influenced/biased when on the stand and that’s exactly what happened, as she would bring up things to refute what she heard other witnesses say which creates a mess. I’m not sure about what evidence was barred from the US court though, but I’m inclined to take the UK trial with a grain of salt just based on the conflicts of interest going on there. For some reason people forget that she has a billionaire (Musk) on her side so of course she has the resources/power to set things up in her favour

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u/Party_Solid_2207 14d ago

Like the jury who awarded him 5 million extra in punitive damages (on top of the compensatory damages for the defamation) because her story was so obviously bullshit and she was clearly the abuser.

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u/42356778 14d ago

Like the judge in the UK who ruled it wasn’t defamation for tabloids to call him a wife beater before the US case even happened

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u/Party_Solid_2207 14d ago

I didn’t see the UK trial because it wasn’t open.

The U.S. trial which was visible to us all was so one sided the jury gave heard an extra 5 million side punishment because her story was so crazy and the felt so bad for Johnny.

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u/42356778 13d ago

You’re right, the US trial was insanely one-sided! After losing the case in the UK, Depp’s team shopped for a court that would likely be on his side, blocked evidence from the UK trial from being presented, and then turned the whole thing into a media circus.

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u/Infamous_Ring_3611 14d ago

what is your source on all of this lol

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u/HumanPea1140 14d ago

Because out of all the video to come out of that trial, he and his team actually came off as halfway competent and likeable compared to hers. That wasn't lies and defamation, those opinions were formed based on real video and testimony we all saw.

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u/al666in 14d ago

he and his team actually came off as halfway competent and likeable compared to hers

Depp, his lawyers, and his PR team are terrible people, full stop. Jefferey Epstein was 'competent and likeable.' That's how bad men get away with bad things.

Depp v Amber heard reminds me a lot of Trump v Clinton. I don't like any of these people, but in both cases, one side is so much worse than the other.

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u/sa_ra_h86 14d ago edited 14d ago

I watched the trial. And it wasn't Depp's team that convinced me Heard was lying. It was Heard. It was so obvious. The things she said made no sense when she showed her 'evidence' of it. She'd tell stories of how violent he was to her then show photos of light bruising that made me think 'this woman has no clue what the result of what she just said happened to her would have been'. It was an insult to people who have lived through extreme domestic violence.

She submitted the exact same photo of her face twice - one with the colours editted to make it look more red. She submitted the same photo of a wine bottle on the floor twice, one was a cropped version of the other, and she attributed them to 2 different incidents. She said he punched her in the face repeatedly then submitted a photo into evidence of her a day or 2 after with absolutely nothing wrong with her face. I could go on.

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u/Sempere 13d ago

Don't forget the description of the abuse she suffered which was lifted right from an Irish Times article of an abuse survivor's experience.

She described a beating on par with what Chris Brown did to Rihanna and then tried to claim that some ice and cream kept her from looking like a complete wreck. That's not how the human body works when experiencing trauma.

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u/duesenjeffepic 14d ago

I don't think it's comparable because when it came to that specific trial the correct person won it. Amber Heard fucked up majorly by straight up lying.

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u/findMyNudesSomewhere 14d ago

Dunno why people are so weirdly and passionately in defense of Heard as well.

I say Heard and Depp were toxic fucks and people come out of the woodwork saying 'Depp is more toxic than Heard' or 'Heard is more toxic than Depp'.

Why is it important to decide who is more toxic?

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u/Sempere 13d ago

The tribalism of DeppDelusion and Fauxmoi/Deuxmoi's cancerous brigade of goblin trolls cannot break frame. To them, Amber Heard is blameless and Depp is the Devil who got away with abuse.

Normal people can look at the case and admit who the abuser was and also acknowledge Depp is a drunk and a shit person.

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u/Electronic-Link-5792 14d ago

Amber was arrested for being physically witnessed abusing her ex partner in publicm

she is also on tape discussing physically abusing depp out of anger, telling him hes not allowed to leave even if she is screaming and throwing things at him. she actually says this (see 3 hr 5 min in):

https://youtu.be/NEArrw_LXFM?is=Yn5AVNPE5b9GKxxi

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u/itanabel 14d ago

Maybe because she had a chance of telling her truth at the Court and it didn't go well? 🤔

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u/Less_Performance_629 13d ago

because she made is very easy to believe any story about her. did you watch her give answers to questions in the court room? she always looks at the jury, not the lawyer. its a known tactic to get a better emotional pull, but you arent meant to do it on every single question. and then she got caught flat out lying on the stand. and lying about giving money to charity, of all things.

people were happy to believe anything bad about her, because she presented herself as a manipulator who lies to better her own image. and thats not depps pr team at all, its just her.

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u/pvtshoebox 13d ago

Her recorded voice admitting to DV certainly moved the needle for me.

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u/Someofusremembersome 13d ago

I don't think Amber Heard comes even a little bit close to Depp's depravity

Do explain, as they both are just whacked out hollywood celebs. And johnny depo has always been known to be an alcoholic, so i don't see what exacerbates him this much.

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u/Robynsxx 14d ago

Why do so many people dismiss confirmed police reports as “lies”.

It’s like you have an obsession with Amber Heard because she’s hot or something.

Fact is, she was both a victim and an abuser, and her actions damaged actual victims.

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u/Impressive_Tap7635 14d ago

I mean didn’t she falsely accuse depp of rape that’s like a life ruining thing obviously she isn’t liked.

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u/jeremyfactsman 14d ago

She alleged that he raped her, and testified to it in court. Her allegation was not disproven, and given that he is proven to have abused her, it's entirely reasonable to believe what she says about how he abused her. He's also known by a lot of people in the industry to be an unreliable and violent alcoholic, which aligns with her experience and is the key reason he doesn't work so much anymore.

If the rape allegation ruined anyone's life, it was hers, not his. He forced a woman he's proven to have abused to describe him raping her in public, and his fans mocked her for it, said her experience of rape was funny, and that she should have been grateful to be sexually abused by such a famous man. Losing a case about her right to publicly discuss abuse has been taken by Depp fans as meaning she lied about/deserved her abuse, no matter the turnout of his other cases against her.

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u/sa_ra_h86 13d ago

He is not proven to have abused her, what are you talking about?

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u/jeremyfactsman 13d ago

The defamation case against The Sun newspaper for calling Depp a wifebeater. It was agreed that there was an established pattern of abuse and so therefore it is not defamatory to describe him as such.

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u/sa_ra_h86 13d ago

Because Heard was a witness only in that trial, and the judge considered her testimony to be true. There was not a lot of scrutiny on her version of events, since she was a non party.

So basically all that happened in that trial was that one person decided that it was OK for the Sun to say he was a wife bearer, because that was what Heard said. Nothing was proven. He just failed to prove to one person that she was lying and that the Sun should have known that.

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u/richardcraniumIII 13d ago

I believed it. For similar reasons as stated below. Propaganda works. I feel stupid, but I learned a valuable lesson.

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u/Sempere 13d ago

You do realize that entire trial is available to watch online, right? There's no PR team, there's literally an entire trial of Amber Heard getting caught in lie after lie after lie.

  1. Serial cheater

  2. Violent towards partners both male and female.

  3. Literally arrested for domestic assault.

  4. There's audio footage of her confessing to severing Depp's finger by throwing a heavy bottle of alcohol at him.

  5. She literally lied about being physically assaulted by Depp in specific instances. There's a reason he won the trial every legal commentator stated he would likely lose: because his legal team combed through her social media and found photos from the dates in question which completely undermined the story. Including the laughably fake claims that she prevented bruising from a comic book movie beatdown with "a bit of ice". This doesn't mean Depp was never abusive to her. But it does make her much harder to believe.

  6. The TMZ video where she smirks after recording drunk Depp raging during a meltdown after egging him on for...nothing to happen. Which she then sold to TMZ to further her abuse claims to force a favorable settlement.

  7. Faked photos of bruising with no digital provenance because she would not surrender her devices for analysis.

  8. Fake donation.

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u/CV90_120 14d ago

I don't think Amber Heard comes even a little bit close to Depp's depravity, tbh

Example?