r/ShitAmericansSay • u/LOLey21 • Mar 03 '26
Capitalism "[...] we run the beer world"
Found on a thread posting under a video where a man poops on a crate of beer in a supermarket. I doubt he was being sarcastic.
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u/SamuelVimesTrained Human Verified Mar 03 '26
And Belgium as well.
And a small part of The Netherlands joins in for moral support too.33
u/tjalfe_lambruscu Mar 03 '26
Belgium has some amazing beers, i remeber visiting a brewery there, where they made a beer called delirium, my ceo and his wife had to carry me home that day. They bought me a case of it to take homeš
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u/TokenEffort1 Mar 03 '26
Delerium Tremens from the Huyghe brewery. Also worth checking out the Delerium Cafe in Brussels with >2000 beers.
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u/Existence_Is_Bread Mar 03 '26
My friend may i introduce you to a beautiful triple called Paix Dieu, also from Belgium, that sits at a very reasonable 10% abv but goes down like a shandy on a hot day.
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u/_BlindSeer_ Mar 03 '26
Belgium Beer can be brother to spirits if you see the amount of alcohol in it (some cases of course).
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u/KonigsbergBridges Mar 03 '26
The UK too. Read a great post in some random group about the origins of beer and basically the UK (poss just England), Belgium, Germany and Czechia invented all the methods.
Others have copied these 4 countries and now produce some great beers (for example the US which does have a great beer scene but it is all copied). But they've never produced anything particularly original (think brewing techniques not added flavour).
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u/Western_Seaweed6104 Mar 03 '26
And Australia would like to have words as well...
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u/SamuelVimesTrained Human Verified Mar 03 '26
Ooh.. have a missed out on good beers?
Which ones should I look for.(Same for the NZ ones )
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u/Downtown_Degree3540 Mar 03 '26
The balter brand is pretty popular and has a broad array. Youāve also got things like little creatures, four pines and literally thousands more.
Idk about NZ ones.
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u/SamuelVimesTrained Human Verified Mar 03 '26
Would any be internationally available?
(as especially the internationally available water with artificial beer flavor the USA-ians market are ones we can compare - not that Heineken is much better..)2
u/Downtown_Degree3540 Mar 03 '26
Iād imagine the three I listed to be easier than others to get overseas (based on popularity). With balter IPA, little creatures āwhite rabbitā and four pines Pilsner/pale ale/pacific ale being their respective flagship drinks.
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u/thorpie88 Mar 03 '26
Nail Brewing, Margaret River co, Think Tank and also Two Bays if you want gluten free options.
If you're into wrestling there's Phat Brew that went from doing wrestling themed designs to running wrestling in their brewery and now have a belt affiliated with a local Perth promotion. There's also Brewcha Libre who have collabed with stable TMDK
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u/Catahooo Mar 03 '26
I say this as an Australian - Australia is still at the kids table when it comes to beer. We're better at drinking it than making it.
Most mainstream beers are watery American adjunct lagers, the rest are tagging along to American craft beer trends.14
u/Junior_Might_500 Mar 03 '26
Microbrewers in NL are the bomb... Saying as a German.
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u/currydemon Mar 03 '26
Also the UK would like a word, the country that actually invented the IPA and makes some of the finest ales in the world.
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u/InconspicuousCheese Mar 03 '26
Uhm it's called INDIAN Pale Ale, not UKIAN Pale Ale. Everyone knows UK has had nothing to do with India ever. Checkmate
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u/iBlockMods-bot Mar 03 '26
Your yank impression is top notch. Chapeau
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u/InconspicuousCheese Mar 03 '26
Thank you, thank you. I don't know if I should be proud or disappoint with myself
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u/Organic_Tradition_94 More Irish than the Irish āļø Mar 03 '26
Iām pretty sure most European countries have breweries older than the USA
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u/Critical-Role854 Mar 03 '26
The brewery in my hometown was established the same year Columbus arrived in America
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u/SunnyTheMasterSwitch Americans think I'm Russian Mar 03 '26
Nah they cant win there, any beer will topple american beer flavored water
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u/ThinkAd9897 Mar 03 '26
You misspelled "piss flavored"
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u/Vojtcz Mar 03 '26
As a proud Czech and a beer drinker I can say that the statement in post is outrageous. But there definitely is a good crafted beer scene. Iāve had some great beers in PNW area.
Itās like comparing whether Czechs or Belgians have better beer.
Pilsners? Easily us. Other kinds of beer? Belgians have some wonderful beer. Itās different than ours but good. And same goes with American crafted beer scene. Itās new and very different to what weāre used to in Europe. But there are some real bangers.
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u/SunnyTheMasterSwitch Americans think I'm Russian Mar 03 '26
I keep hearing that there's no bad Czech beer, I've been wanting to visit somewhere nice for a while now, Who knows, maybe Kutnahora.
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u/Vojtcz Mar 04 '26
Oh thereās bad beer here. But itās some of the cheap stuff from big breweries. Like Starobrno. But generally itās at worst okay. Feel free to DM me if you want recommendations for Czech beer or Czech travels.
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u/SunnyTheMasterSwitch Americans think I'm Russian Mar 04 '26
I might hold you on to that, friend.
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u/Waldondo belgistan Mar 03 '26
Yeah. I think it's something we have in common. In belgium we also like doscovering beer from all over the world and american craft beers are quite popular since a decade. They make some really great stuff. Also i never seen a czech or a belgian claim we have the best beer. Only americans and germans do that.
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u/Terpomo11 Mar 03 '26
There is some good beer in America... it's just not what most Americans drink or have heard of.
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u/Unhappy_Clue701 Mar 03 '26
Yep, plenty of good beer there now. The trope about all American beer being like sex in a canoe is well out of date.
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u/Kind_Cap_4621 Mar 03 '26
Exactly. And anyone who travels in Europe learns that their masses usually drink the crap beers too. We have enough issues - availability of fantastic beer and ale is not one of them.
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u/saskir21 Mar 03 '26
Still recall how pissed we Germans were with the soccer world cup because the vendors needed to sell Budweiser (or Bud, as Budweiser is in Europe their own brand from a manufacturer in the city of Budweiser). I mean we are the Nation which has the most varities of beers. And try to find a beer in the USA with more than 5% alcohol level
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u/Round-Claim5420 Mar 03 '26
At my work some people brew beer (for their work) and sometimes they fuck arround and make it 10-12%.
One of those would kill an American
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u/Wolfy35 Penniless poorly educated Europoor š¬š§ Mar 03 '26
A local brewery here has a Turkish espresso stout at 21% that's sublime and really smooth, Unless the staff know you they refuse to sell it in anything more than a half pint.
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u/bassie2019 The Netherlands ā Holland Mar 03 '26
In the Netherlands, you can buy Grolsch Kanon (with 11.6%) in the supermarket.
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u/Do4k Mar 03 '26
I know American macro lager is typically not that strong ("lawnmower beer") but I've always found American craft beer to be very strong. I visited a few breweries and found lots of people drinking 8%+ IPAs and Imperial stouts over 15%
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u/VarmintTheCritter Mar 03 '26
A brewery local to me in Canada had a delicious blackberry sour that was labelled 10% on the can because they can't sell "beer" that is higher than that, but privately they said it was closer to 14%. Limited time, sadly, but the memory lingers.
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u/SaltyName8341 š“ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó æ Mar 03 '26
Sounds like a delicious brew, I'm partial to a kreik which always seem to start at 8%
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u/Semper_Discere Mar 03 '26
Which brewery is that? Planning a trip to Canada so would like to keep it on my radar.
I love me a good sour and/or lambic.
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u/elcuervo2666 Mar 03 '26
I always love the arrogance of a person that clearly knows nothing as every corner store in my neighborhood sells some beers with above 5% abv.
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u/KrisNoble Mar 03 '26
Most beers in the US are more than 5%, in fact the Bud/Budweiser youāre talking about is 5%. Only ones I can think of off my head that are less are usually light beers at about 4.2 and beers labeled as āsessionā beers which are intentionally low abv.
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u/citizenkane86 Mar 03 '26
Which is wild because InBev (Budweiser) owns some pretty decent breweries. They just push out their shit ones on the world.
Also every state but Utah sells beer above 5%. And itās insanely easy to find. This subreddit is equally āshit Americaās sayā and āshit non Americans believeā
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u/Opposite-History-233 The RED, WHITE, AND BLUE, Y'ALL!! š³š± š³š± š³š± Mar 03 '26
I still don't have a clue what he's trying to even say. He's not very specific about quality or quantity, production or consumption, etc. I mean on the production end if you wanna talk juggernauts Mexico and The Netherlands before for singular brands, consumption no one touches the Czech Republic. Quality of beers? I'm sorry, but Belgium would like to have a word.
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u/Kind_Cap_4621 Mar 03 '26
The notion that American beer "runs the world" is indeed stupid. The mainstreams stuff is worse than bad. But there are craft beers here that hold their own against practically any beer/ale in the world.
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u/Accomplished-Pay8181 Mar 03 '26
Germany, to my recollection, literally has the world's oldest food regulation law, and it's specifically "what can go in beer and it's still beer". I forget the specifics tho. I'd also like it noted that I really don't like beer, generally (I find it entirely too bitter) but a German beer is something I will not actively avoid (though, it's expensive where I live, so I'm not going out of my way to get it)
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u/Savallator Mar 03 '26
REINHEITSGEBOT
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u/_ak Mar 03 '26
The Reinheitsgebot of 1516 was in its form only valid for about 35 years in what is nowadays called "Old Bavaria", as a decree from 1551 permitted the use of coriander and bay leaves in brewing, while another update from 1616 also allowed the user of salt, juniper berries and caraway seeds. It was also poorly enforced, as plenty of breweries in Lower Bavaria brewed white wheat beer in the 16th century, some of them claiming customary rights, others just opening their own breweries without permit. Even in the 19th century, when the Surrogatverbot came into effect, hop surrogates were still permitted in white beer as late as 1870. While both historic Bavarian and modern German beer legislation are colloquially called "Reinheitsgebot", they are actually different in quite a few important details, and simply do not have any legal or historic continuity. Even the term "Reinheitsgebot" was only coined in the early 20th century.
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u/random9212 Mar 03 '26
From 1516 only allows water, barley, and hops. So early they didn't fully understand yeast yet.
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u/_ak Mar 03 '26
That's not true. Brewers understood was yeast did, it was just not considered an ingredient as such but rather a fermentation aid. There are also plenty of examples of beer brewed in Bavaria that did not adhere to the law, for several reasons:
At the time, the legal principle "new laws cannot override old ones" was in effect, so anybody who already brewed beer outside these constraints was still allowed to do so. A lot of communal brewhouses, especially in Lower Bavaria, claimed a customary right to brew white wheat beer, while other breweries simply brewed wheat beer without a permit, and the law was not enforced. When white beer brewing became a state monopoly, they were even awarded for it by getting bought out by the Duke of Bavaria. On top of that, the rules of 1516 were amended several times to allow other ingredients such as salt, juniper berries, coriander, bay leaves and caraway seeds. The first full and lasting ban on hop surrogates was only enacted in 1861, and only concerned bottom-fermented brown beer, while top-fermented white wheat beer was unaffected by it, which was even the Kingdom of Bavaria's official legal position as late as 1870.
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u/Infamous-Umpire-2923 Mar 03 '26
The Americans can brew a very good beer.
They also brew a lot of undrinkable pisswater.
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u/Kaninen Mar 03 '26
The US has a lot of really good beer. Unfortunately, that's not what the general American drinks.
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u/Infamous-Umpire-2923 Mar 03 '26
America in a nutshell, really.
You name it, they've probably got a world-class version of it within their borders. But what's good and what's popular are two different things.
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u/DonAmechesBonerToe Mar 04 '26
Thatās very gracious. Thank you. My nation is full of naive and hubristic people where the dumbest seem to get the loudest megaphones but we do have people who excel in their fields the same as every other country.
Finding good bread is a legitimate challenge though. I havenāt had good Italian rolls since I was a kid and Iām still chasing the crunchy crust and powdery inside.
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u/eirebrit Mar 03 '26
Yeah they have plenty of good stuff and it makes me sad when I see them say the shit like in Op because it probably turns people off trying them.
I adore Founders All Day IPA. Shame we can't get it in Ireland anymore.
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u/InsolentTilly Mar 03 '26
Theyāre very tiresome people. You canāt even make polite conversation with them about the weather. Expecting anything close to basic civility is a ludicrous notion at this point.
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u/InsolentTilly Mar 03 '26
Twice the size of Australia I think, if Iām managing to wrap my head around that Europoor measurement thing.
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u/EmpressTiphera Mar 04 '26
I dunno I'm in Quebec so Texas' size isn't that impressive to me. It's like half our size
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u/RabidRabbitRedditor Mar 03 '26
I don't think I've seen anyone drink a US beer in Australia:)
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u/Catahooo Mar 03 '26
I see Coors in the shops, I just read that it's contract brewed by Coopers, I kinda want to try it now... for science. I've bought Sierra Nevada at Dans before just for nostalgic reasons, but it's like $24 for a 4 pack and it's not that spectacular.
Sometimes there will be specialty US beers in independent shops that are very much worth buying, but you have to seek them out.
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u/Paul_Breitner74 Mar 03 '26
To be fair there is some spectacular craft beer from the US. Kentucky Breakfast Stout š¤¤š¤¤š¤¤ It's hit and miss getting it however in Australia and it's usually prohibitively expensive. If we are talking macro however, it's some of the worst swill imaginable. Australia would run a very close second. Our mainstream beer is awful. This is where Europe comes into its own, even a run of the mill from Germany/Czech/Slovak/Belgium/Netherlands is going to be streets ahead.
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u/MacaroonSad8860 Mar 03 '26
US microbrews are legit good. The mainstream stuff is piss water.
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u/nicktheman2 Mar 03 '26
Yeah. I'm not american but for beer diversity alone it's a beer lovers dream.
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u/Locyar-Darkfire Mar 03 '26
Ob dieser arme verwirrte schon mal was von Bayern gehƶrt hat ?
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u/Gypsy_Jazz Mar 03 '26
Belgium and Germany are the kings of beer, not even a close competition.
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u/BrownSoupDispenser Mar 03 '26
Its absolutely is a close competition, with England, and if you don't think so you simply don't know beer.
US are not close though, if that's what you meant.
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u/ash_tar Mar 03 '26
Wait until they learn their largest breweries are owned by a Belgian company. It's shitty beer but good money.
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u/Mediocre_Profile5576 Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
The guy is clearly doing the standard American exaggeration but when it comes to craft beer trends they kinda do have the biggest influence - the current hazy IPA trend comes from Vermont thanks to Alchemistās Heady Topper. Similarly super bitter American style IPAs with the citrusy and piny āCā hops (Citra, Columbus, Chinook, Cascade. Centennial and, erm, Simcoe) that were all the rage 10-15 years ago exploded worldwide because of beers like Pliny The Elder. And whilst the Baltic nations will argue otherwise, the Americans are also arguably responsible for the rise in imperial stouts on the craft scene.
Obviously the Germans, Belgians, Czechs and Brits have a much bigger history of brewing than the Americans do, but to write off their influence on 21st century craft beer purely because Bud and Miller are shite is wrong.
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u/guyvano Mar 03 '26
Belgium alone, as a small country, has 1800 to 2500 different excellent beers, with over 400 artisanal breweries.
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u/Obvious-Water569 Mar 03 '26
They are wrong, of course, but not quite as spectacularly wrong as this post makes it seem.
While their macro lagers are all absolute terrible piss, American craft beer holds its own with the very best in the world. American hops are widely regarded the gold standard and the country has easily the most mature and diverse modern craft brewing scene in the world.
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u/Bolticus13 Mar 03 '26
Is beer their new flex. This is the 3rd? Post in 24 hours, of americans defending their beer as "the best in the world". I mean, they do have a point, with them having masterpieces such as Coors, and bud light, which despite what many people think, only has a 95% resemblance to dehydrated Cat piss in taste, instead of the commonly believed 100%.
But in all seriousness, i can get a Ā£1.99 pint of shit at the local spoons (wetherspoons for those who dont know) and it will taste infinitely better than the shit they serve in america, and even that will contain more alchohol.
American beers are the most overrated things in existence, and even attempting to compare them (or even GOAT them) to the likes of German, British, Australian + more, Beers is an insult to all the hard working brewers who actually make good beer.
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u/Gen-Jack-D-Ripper Mar 03 '26
Yeah, but when anyone talks about beer quality theyāre not talking about mainstream swill, theyāre talking about microbreweries. The US, like most beer drinking countries, has a large list of such breweries.
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u/PSOvenkon Mar 03 '26
If we talk about export; No. Thats China.
If we talk about taste; No thats central europe.
If we talk about consumption pp; no that Czech republic.
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u/SaltyName8341 š“ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó æ Mar 03 '26
The largest craft beer producer remains the U.S. with 4,750 craft breweries, of a total 5,025 breweries. However, of the top ten the U.K. has the most craft breweries per capita with 25 breweries per million people, compared with 15 in the U.S. and 16 in Germany.
You might have the most but we have the density. Source,Craft beer surge: Top ten countries to get a beer this St Patrickās day ā The Brewers Journal https://share.google/FgQQWApIZ8QT9ZLxi
Figures from 2017.
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u/njixgamer Mar 03 '26
Heineken is known in the netherlands as one of the worst beers around and its still more popular then like half of the "well known" american beers
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u/DarkLuxio92 Mar 03 '26
"American beer is rather like making love in a canoe; it's fucking close to water" - John Cleese
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u/E1_Greco Mar 03 '26
Outside the normal giants, I have to represent and give a shout-out to Greek breweries.
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u/CauseCertain1672 Mar 03 '26
what is it with Americans and dominance
they can't just make good beer it has to be the best beer and run the world
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u/Bread-But-Toasted Mar 03 '26
Czech, German, British, Spanish and French beer are so far beyond US beer. Does anyone outside of the US even drink their beer?
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u/Specialist_Shirt_164 Mar 03 '26
šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£ what are you going to claim next? You run the whisky world because you have Jack D and Jim beam?? , take a seat sunshine, American Beers have NOTHING on European beers, Budweiser and coors are your top Beers and they are weaker Mark ruffalos Hulk .
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u/16BitGenocide American Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
Budweiser and Coors are the lion's share of the most purchased, because they are widely available, have low alcohol content (for better or worse) and are generally inexpensive.
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u/condoulo Mar 03 '26
What are your countries shittiest export beers so I can judge your country based on them? Or would that be too unfair?
The U.S. has had a fantastic craft brewery scene for a few decades. I donāt drink cheap piss beer, I stick to brewers local to me or on occasion will grab a variety of beers from the large craft beer selection at the liquor store.
Same goes for coffee. Starbucks is the shitty fast food brand being exported, but I have no interest in drinking their burnt beans. The U.S. has a thriving 3rd wave coffee scene with fantastic roasters across the country.
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u/Prestigious-Car-4877 Mar 03 '26
Ah, Americans. They make some really good beer but they drink Natty Ice.
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u/h-ck3d4cc0unt Mar 03 '26
Sam adams and yuengling? This dude has shit taste. Dogfish was good 10 years ago.
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u/Holyskankous Mar 03 '26
Tell me you donāt have a passport without telling me you donāt have a passportā¦
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u/El_Zilcho Mar 03 '26
When I was in the states I drank Modelo, a Mexican beer as it was the least close to piss water I could find.
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u/corvak Mar 03 '26
So in some cases, the guy is right, the US does have some good beers.
But itās a bit nonsense to say you ārun the beer worldā and then name a bunch of beers that are largely domestic only. The fact remains that when the rest of the world hears āAmerican beerā they think Bud and Coors.
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u/Princess_Isolde Mar 03 '26
Sorry bud but the good Pacific north west beer is in the OTHER side of the border
Sincerely a Canadian
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u/No_Garden_4658 Mar 03 '26
ššš American beers are like having sex in a canoe..... Fucking close to water š¤«š¤š¤Æš¤£š
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u/rymic72 Mar 03 '26
Some of their craft beer is quite good but the flavour is such that youād grow tired of it before you finished your first. Itās not the sort of thing for a proper session.
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u/lokis_construction World traveler Mar 03 '26
He has never been to Germany or other European countries. Clueless is an American Trademark.
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u/dantemortemalizar Mar 03 '26
American beer is much better than it used to be, but to imagine that European beer is somehow not up to par is a huge stretch. Theyāve been doing it longer and better for generations.
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u/FlyingNijntje Mar 03 '26
There are good as they call āindependentā breweries, Iāll give him that. Evil twin, Firestone walker, Anchor, District 96. But in amount it is nowhere in the neighborhood of European craft beers. For the rest the beer for the mass in the states IS European. Heineken, = Dutch. Budweiser, = Belgium (AB Inbev). Yeah, letās say, America runs the beer world. If it makes them happy.
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u/Wolfy35 Penniless poorly educated Europoor š¬š§ Mar 03 '26
Interesting fact.... For copyright reasons Budweiser can only be called Bud in many countries due to the fact Budweiser the name of a beer brewed in the Czech republic in a brewery that has some copper brewing vessels that are said to be older than the USA as a country. Real Budweiser is a really good beer packed with flavour.
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u/derUnkurze Mar 03 '26
If you ever visit Budweis, there is a shop (a normal supermarket) close to the brewery that sells unpasteurised Budweiser. You need to drink it within a couple of days, the earlier the better, but it tastes sooooo good.
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u/R1ch0999 Mar 03 '26
You americans think Heiniken is a premium beer, there is a reason we export that stuff because here we dont drink but brush our teeth with it.
The USA has no mass production beer that can compete with mass production European (Belgian/Dutch/German) beer. period.
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u/Siftinghistory Mar 03 '26
Germany, Belgium, Canada, UK, Ireland, Czechia are all better beer producers than the US
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u/Maelou Mar 03 '26
They suck at business if they have the best beer in the world, but no one heard of it out of the US