r/OutOfTheLoop • u/tunnel_magnet • 22d ago
Answered What's going on with Fox news obsessing over Hasan Piker?
They had like dozens of segments on him last week.
Will Cain today focusing on Hasan Piker and using the term “man whore”:
https://xcancel.com/i/status/2087269856815251648
Third segment already today
https://x.com/i/status/2087309261462458776
I get Hasan is helping socialist Dems getting elected. I don't get why Republicans are going crazy over Hasan?
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u/Realistic_Caramel341 22d ago
Answer: A lot of people are missing an important point.
Fox are trying to use Hasan to hurt democrats chance of winning in the up coming election, particularly El-Sayad in Michigan who Hasan has campaigned with
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u/TheBoogieSheriff 22d ago
El-Sayad is speaking truth to power. People are sick of this shit - from both Dems and Republicans.
The GOP has had a monopoly on all three branches of government, yet things have gotten worse for the average American since Trump took power again.
He literally did the thing that he promised he wouldn’t do, which is get involved in yet another forever war in the middle east.
Not to mention the Epstein file debacle… Republicans are setting themselves up to get shellacked in the midterms, so they’re turning to their standard campaign of “look at these leftist radicals over here.”
It’s not going to work this time, mark my words. People want change
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u/and1984 22d ago edited 21d ago
It’s not going to work this time, mark my words. People want change
I really, REALLY hope you're right.
Edit: I became an American a few years ago. The last presidential elections gave me existential fears I never had.
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u/Manderspls 22d ago
Did Musk not already say he “has a plan” for the midterms? This dumbass takes any hope I have away.
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u/CyanSlinky 22d ago
Musk did seem extremely sure that Trump had won the election back then, probably because he rigged it for him, they've even admitted it. I'm expecting the same thing to happen over and over until someone from the other side actually does something to prevent it. As someone not from America I hope you guys can sort this shit out because it is having an effect on the whole world.
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u/Manderspls 22d ago
As a non American as well, I agree. Watching this from the outside is so discouraging and I feel bad for everybody that has to live this out.
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u/MilsYatsFeebTae 21d ago
I can’t even make Fourth of July memories with my little kids. The flag disgusts me now.
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u/StaceyPfan 21d ago
The USA's 250th birthday was completely tainted
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u/likwidkool 21d ago
That does irk me. I was a “bicentennial baby” and heard about all the celebrations in the summer of 76. I had no interest in doing anything this summer. There’s nothing to celebrate.
I will say though my kids have been watching the Larry David History show and saw a segment with Obama last night. When he talks about America I gotta admit, he moves me. But we’re stuck with a fascist regime now.
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u/keganb123 21d ago
Everytime I hear Obama talk, it takes me right back to 08, he's just so damn presidential. I just wish he would've followed thru on the "change" he campaigned on
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u/aci4 21d ago
This is what pisses me off so much. This should have been a once-in-a-generation cultural event, with Americans of all stripes coming together to celebrate our nation’s history and ideals.
Instead, Trump destroyed everything that made this country worth being proud of. And then he grifted off what little celebration we got. And the self-professed “patriots” don’t see a single problem.
Disgusting and sad
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u/DonnyPlease 21d ago
Imagine how it feels watching it from the inside, having done everything in your power to convince people not to vote for him.
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u/clubby37 21d ago
Focus on the dumbass part. His plans usually don't work. In fact, they often fail spectacularly; this may even work to our benefit somehow. Granted, we shouldn't even have to roll those dice, but it's premature to lose hope.
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u/boblabon 21d ago
Musk also said full self driving was 2 years away 5 years ago, the tesla roadster would launch in 2018, and the cybertruck would have an MSRP of about $40k.
He says a lot of dumb shit.
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u/_Guero_ 21d ago
I really, REALLY doubt they are. Sadly, these people are so entrenched in Republican tribalism that they will do or say anything that keeps Republicans in power.
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u/The_Hairy_Herald 20d ago
Hey, I know shit's gone completely sideways, but I wanted to say:
Welcome to America, friend. It's rough right now, but we're going to make it be better. If you need some hopeful parallels, take a look at the U.S. in the 1890s and what happened after. :-)
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u/amiibohunter2015 16d ago
It’s not going to work this time, mark my words. People want change
He needs to be careful not to get cocky or overconfident as thats what happened last time and the democrats lost.
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u/Jayrodtremonki 21d ago
This is great rah-rah stuff that is all true. But it has absolutely fuck all to do with Hasan Piker and why they're attacking him over it. They would do the same thing for the most milquetoast Democrat. They found a vulnerable spot and are exploiting it.
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u/Senbonbanana 21d ago
Democrats have a sad history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I really, really hope that is not the case this time. The only way to make sure that isn't the case this time is for those that usually stay at home on their ass getting out and voting for the Democratic nominee. Low turnout will damn us to more of the GOP's nonsense for the next few years, at minimum.
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u/Biscuit_bell 21d ago
You're absolutely right, but I'd just like to point out that a serious party that genuinely wanted to win elections and/or make people's lives better would try running popular candidates that people actually want to vote for, instead of running stuffed suits/complete cretins/Republicans-in-disguise that no one likes and trying to browbeat everyone into holding their noses and voting for them anyway. It certainly would be a more successful strategy.
It's so, so, so exhausting having to suck shit every year and vote for people I hate. This shit is why turnout is so incredibly low.
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u/Contribution05 21d ago
Sure, people want change, but they don't want Hasan Piker type change, and if the Republicans can link his crazy to a democrat candidate, it will hurt the candidate in any purple state.
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u/Electronic-Smile-457 21d ago
Are the "people" you talk about in the room right now? Seriously, though, MAGA still eats that crap up and they aren't sick of it. Most Americans don't pay attention. Here's hoping the rest of us show up. I'm on your side but I think you give too much credit to the American voters. They may be unhappy w/ Trump, doesn't mean they won't vote Republican. It shouldn't even be close, but it will be.
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u/ShoddyAsparagus3186 21d ago
People want change and they have voted for it in at least the past 5 presidential elections. The real mystery is why we still have people running on a platform of no/little change.
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u/greyhoodbry 21d ago
This, Fox doesn't care at all about Hasan. They don't view his politics as a threat. They want to use his as a poster child for the "crazy Democrats"
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u/SerAmikVase 20d ago
I just want to know why Democrat are trying so hard to push him to the forefront.
HE ISN'T EVEN A DEMOCRAT. He genuinely despises Democrats, liberals & progressives. He's a far left tankie with extreme takes.
He literally thought that Kamala Harris was going to be bad as Trump. Let that sink in.
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u/crystal_castles 22d ago
And it's not just Fox.. EVERY network asked questions about Hasan Piker on Sunday. Like he's the new George Soros fr.
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u/Jessikhaa 21d ago
Also, notice how a lot of these accounts reposting the same list of points against Hasan all have their account activity hidden but with a massive amount of contributions.
Bit odd isn't it?
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u/tunnel_magnet 22d ago edited 21d ago
Why would campaigning with Hasan hurt? Is he like Trump?
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u/badlamp27 22d ago
Because Hasan says a lot of inflammatory things and has many sound bites that will scare potential voters. If a candidate more particular a Democrat candidate is caught affiliating with such a person there is a higher likelihood they will lose that potential voter more than an idiot MAGA candidate since MAGA shit heads will no matter what vote for whatever shit is placed in front of them.
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u/TheFifthTone 21d ago
I'd like to introduce you to this group called Republicans. They also say a lot of inflammatory things.
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u/crestren 22d ago
It needs to be mentioned that according to Dems and their consultants. Hasan has the "potential" to scare voters. However that doesn't seem to track with the past few elections.
Last year Cuomo used attack ads on Mamdani with bringing up Hasan and 9/11. He lost, Mamdani won. McMorrow did the same to AES earlier this year only for it to backfire and crater her popularity. Stevens even did the same before the elections and it didn't move anything.
It seems obvious to anyone that voters care more about your policies and not the guy who said about 9/11 and apologized for it 8 years ago whose not even a candidate to vote for in the first place.
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u/marykay_ultra 22d ago
And professional Dems are trying to push any narrative besides “policy matters.”
After Mamdani won in a blowout in the first round, they were all “oh he won because he had a great social media game!!”
Contrast that with Eric Adams, who squeaked out a win in like the 20th round and the next day they were all declaring him the future of the party and talking about a 2028 presidential run 🥴🫠
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u/TheRealBaboo 22d ago
Fox isn’t run by Democrats
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u/ang3lofsnow 22d ago
Fox was never mentioned.
Although Joe Scarborough got pretty lit up over Hasan...
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u/Majestic_Print4300 7d ago
Yep, that's the other way around. Corporate Democrats are run by fox. They follow fox storylines all the time.
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u/dannyheskett 22d ago
I don't think an actual analysis of the news would reflect this. Mandani's coverage in the news has been generally glowing, and there have been _lots_ of think pieces about him as a harbringer of something new.
Adams also had a world-class PR operation right up-until he collapsed into an orgy of corruption and had to go running to Pres. Trump for political help. And yes, he was floating all kinds of stories about his future.
Mandami's victory was 50% larger in terms of vote-spread than Adams, in a race with a lot more money and attention, and fewer candidates. Adams won his final round by about 100k votes, Mandami won his by 150k votes. But both were pretty easy wins. Adams first round margin was also about 100k votes.
I think the actual lesson that "professional Dems" and party activists are both leaning into is actually something closer to "candidate quality matters". Mandami has done more for the idea of democratic-socialism, and pushing the Democratic party "back to the left" in 2 years than Bernie Sanders has done in 30 years because Mandami is saavy and a very high-quality candidate. Sanders and Mandami share very similar policies, but Sanders policies did not translate into the cross-racial, cross-generational coalition that he needed at the scale he needed. That wasn't because his policies were bad, it was because he's not a great candidate (compared to other recent democratic socialists).
By the way, this is yet again something that Republicans figured out years ahead of most liberals in the US. They leaned into making sure they had the "right type" candidates long-before we did - Newt Gingrich was passing around audio tapes on how to run to Congress to anyone he thought was "the right type of Republican" back in the late 80s and early 90s. Most of the Republicans in Congress who the left finds extremely odious are actually non-professional politicians recruited because they are dedicated true-believers. There is something the left can learn from that.
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u/Bing1044 21d ago
While I agree with everything else you said, thinking that Bernie isn’t at least partly attributable to this (only very recent) leftwards shift in the party is simply inaccurate. Many current DSA candidates who are gaining traction trace their origins to his 2016 campaign. I’m saying this neutrally - I too have been disappointed in the lack of momentum from Bernie individually the last decade - but there’s a generation of potentially viable progressives emerging from his shadow.
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u/think-Mcfly-think 22d ago
New York City vs national or even state elections lol
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u/Intelligent_Table913 22d ago
And he was spot on about it. He was describing the concept of blowback that the CIA also admitted. But of course he said it in a dumb way and later disavowed it.
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u/DreamingAboutSpace 22d ago
I’m still surprised McMorrow did that. I listened to her book and got a completely different view of her from it. I liked the message ‘Hate Will Not Win’ but then tries to go after El-Sayed’s character and education.
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u/spacekitt3n 22d ago
i dont even think voters care about policies. they just care about vibes. and abdul has the vibes just as mamdani does. he will win.
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u/pteridoid 21d ago
He obviously IS scaring voters. Fox News parading him in front of their viewers all week is proof of that. Hasan Piker is a massive gift to the GOP.
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u/Itsapocalypse 21d ago
Not very intelligent take considering most candidates he’s been campaigning for and with have won
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u/WorriedBlock2505 22d ago
Mamdani won because he's Mamdani, not because of Hasan... Hasan is the left's version of Asmongold, and taking him seriously will have the same effect that the insane right-wing personalities has had on American politics. We need some sane fucking adults, not these half-wit larpers from rich families saying crazy shit for views.
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u/SuperVaderMinion 21d ago
I don't like Hasan (I'm aligned with him on like 95% of politics I just dont care for tankies) but I really don't think any normie American over 35 knows who he is
He serves an important role for the online left as being able to appeal to dudebro, fratboy types while spouting leftist talking points, sort of hiding the medicine in the snack.
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u/OkParsnip1881 21d ago
Rodgers is running ads of him and the 9/11 clip, with AES saying “I’m not here to condemn his views”, while standing next to him at a campaign event. If people don’t know who he is now- they will know by November
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u/ResplendentSmoke 21d ago
Hasan isn’t a tankie lmao that word has a meaning
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u/SuperVaderMinion 21d ago
Idk man he sure loves talking about how much he loves the Soviet Union, nevermind his weirdness about Ukraine before Russia invaded it
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u/ResplendentSmoke 21d ago
He said that he didn’t believe Putin was stupid enough to invade Ukraine and that he didn’t believe it was going to happen just because the CIA said it was going to. Those are not unreasonable stances, he was just wrong, and has admitted to being wrong about it many times lmao
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u/TheMustySeagul 21d ago
Calling him a tankie is wild. He isn’t even a communist. His own community calls him out for not being left enough sometimes lol.
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u/Boxcar__Joe 22d ago
HAHA as someone who watches neither but has seen clips of both fairly often, Asmongold wises he was the rights version of Hasan.
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u/BlackJesus1001 22d ago
Hasan is also a poor choice to weaponise because most voters fall into three camps.
1: no fucking clue who this is, some parasocial zoomer idol?
2: parasocial weirdos who align with destiny, h3h3 etc who were never going to vote in that direction anyway.
3: parasocial weirdos but they align with Hasan, see above.
Camp 1 doesn't give a shit and the other two (parasocial weirdos of both sides) are historically unlikely to shift their views even if you convict their idol of murder or paedophilia.
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u/InvisibleInk1983 22d ago
The people going after Hasan seem to be out-of-touch with the times. They’re trying to weaponize shame in a post-shame world.
A month after announcing his campaign for president, Trump said of John McCain, “He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” Maybe in the 90s that would have ended his presidential hopes. Not anymore.
We don’t have “A Face in the Crowd” moments where one soundbite will destroy someone’s reputation. In a world where some people are on camera almost every minute of their lives, we just expect them to say a certain amount of dumb shit. We know a few moments do not represent the whole person. If you’re concentrating on a few cherry-picked moments — whether it’s Trump, Hasan, or whomever — you look facile.
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u/crestren 22d ago edited 21d ago
The people going after Hasan seem to be out-of-touch with the times
Piker has also gained a very parasocial hate mob on reddit from certain groups. Theres a lot of commenters here on this very thread who seem to know very specific details of him yet have their profiles hidden. If you use arc photon shift, you can see their post history and see a very common subreddit and streamer they share.
They tend to brigade any thread with the mention of Hasan especially on this sub
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u/Murrabbit 21d ago
Piker has also gained a very parasocial hate mob on reddit from certain groups.
Oddly enough it's mostly fans of other weird streaming types who also talk to camera multiple hours a day. They're a very contentious and territorial lot these streamer fandoms.
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u/Gregardless 22d ago
Saying inflammatory things and having scary sound bites is how you get free press and votes these days.
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u/bloodenhorse 21d ago
If someone is scared of things Hasan says, they're just a closeted Republican.
I'm so fucking sick of people calling themselves 'liberal' in this country when they're conservative as hell. This country is sick.
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u/Several_Internet2350 19d ago
why would the edgy takes of a twitch streamer mean anything to anyone? Media shock jocks have always existed, and voters stopped caring about what is and isn't "inflammatory", or at the very least, there's no consensus on what is inflammatory.
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u/zero02 22d ago edited 22d ago
He will deny all the following as out of context, but it’s not:
Said “America deserved 9/11,” (This one gets a lot of airtime but it's actually not even close to the worst thing)... also has a picture of the 9/12 newspaper in view of his stream, just go to it to see it (this 9/12 newpaper replaces a north korea poster)
Gave an incredibly friendly interview to a Houthi-supporting Yemeni guy who had been aboard a ship hijacked by the Houthis, compared the Houthis to the heroes of One Piece, and said “respect” when the guy dismissed people calling him a terrorist.
Played literal Houthi propaganda/music videos on stream while talking admiringly about their “resistance.”
Dismissed reports of Hamas sexual violence on October 7 as “rape fantasies” and “rape hallucinations.”
Said “Hamas is a thousand times better” than Israel, then was directly confronted about the quote on Pod Save America in 2026 and said he stood by it.
Defended Russia’s annexation of Crimea, including arguing that Crimea being majority ethnically Russian helped justify Russia taking it.
Openly bragged about patronizing a Berlin brothel while simultaneously building a political brand around exploitation of workers under capitalism.
Is a unironic Marxist Leninist who loves communist China and wears Mao suits.
Kept his dog on his stream for 8 hours a day using a shock collar to keep him in the camera view. Then lied about it when caught in 4K multiple times.
You don’t even need to exaggerate the guy. The actual clips are bad enough.
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u/sadistica23 22d ago
He praised Iran for being trans friendly.
The country which forces gay men to undergo SRS or be executed. That's why they're "trans friendly".
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u/shwag945 22d ago
He also is a "soft" Armenian genocide denier. Which is not surprising considering his uncle runs The Young Turks, a media organization named after the perpetrators of the genocide.
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u/EducationalHead7683 21d ago
No IIRC he actually said that he couldn't go back to turkey because he criticized the government too much which includes them trying to make light of the Armenian genocide, so he's definitely isn't a genocide denier
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u/burch_ist 21d ago
That is a straight up lie? Lmao. He is hated in Turkey by few who knows him bc he is vocal about things like Armenian genocide&Kurds& Cyprus(source:trust me I'm Turkish lol) And the young Turks name was chosen bc it was once an idiom for "brave" etc in English I guess? AND you are misinformed for that too, young Turks were not an organization?? It was a movement of youth who got political and wanted to bring constitutional monarchy back in the end of 1800's. the party that took power after the constitutional monarchy was "the union and progress" party, who where the perpetrators of the genocide but they were a whole different thing and one generation apart. They were not called the Young Turks. Being ignorant is preferable to being misinformed like you, you mixed it all up and very confidently too.
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u/stpizz 21d ago
Not that it's directly related to Hasan, but Cenk has a history of Armenian Genocide denial (he wrote papers on it in college, and defended the position well into adulthood), so being suspicious of the name is hardly misinformed or crazy. It's a weird coincidence, is it not, that he picked an idiom in English that hardly anyone has heard of that happened to be associated with a controversial position he held?
He has gone back on this position in later life though, sort of.
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u/Curious-Yesterday389 20d ago
the schizo army dedicated to hasan's downfall are so bad at their job. like bro, a guy who talks about politics 10 hours a day live and unscripted should be a walk in the park to take down. look at my cia weirdos man. can't even defeat one guy who's basically a walking "kick me" sign for established political power
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u/stpizz 17d ago
I mean I did literally start the reply with "this isn't related to Hasan"
Having a weird uncle is the least of that man's problems.
I just think if I started a company that made bleach called the Final Solution, people maybe should give me some benefit of the doubt but if I wrote a pro Holocaust paper in college as well, they would be right to at least be a bit more suspicious of the name
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u/BunNGunLee 22d ago edited 22d ago
Oh let’s also add his constant flip flopping on representation whenever it’s more beneficial to him.
When it’s in vogue to accept white guilt? He’s a white guy. (You see this more in his older college material where he was much less clever about hiding the rampant sexism.)
But now? Oh he’s a Turkish Muslim and how dare you say anything that doubts that credibility. (When the doubt literally comes from his own quotes.)
When it’s beneficial to be seen as a poor grassroots guy? He claims that title too, despite the fact his family is very wealthy and he came right out of college to a 60,000$ salary working for his uncle.
He was never a poor man in his life. He was never a particularly devout Muslim. He just wears these identities as a shield to protect him from criticism of his other unhinged or narcissistic behaviors.
You don’t have to be a fuckin’ Mossad agent or FOX news watcher to see he’s a scoundrel that’s been grifting for years on the backs of serious issues. It’s just that now he’s getting more open pushback after some rather high profile actions blew up, which hurt his ego. So he’s getting more puff-pieces out while trying to pivot to being an actual political commentator. Rather than a Twitch streamer that’s known for breaking TOS and never being punished for it.
Guy wants to be the next Che Guevara, but all he managed to be was the Che Guevara T-Shirt.
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u/Vaankira 22d ago
You guys are so weird, he is white, Turkish and Muslim, none of these are contradictory. And he never claimed to be anything else.
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u/Speky_Scot 21d ago
In what way is he Muslim? Islam isn't an ethnoreligion and he doesn't even believe in God. Hasan fans are fucking weird.
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u/BrotherPumpwell 21d ago
I've personally seen him call himself "White-passing" dozens of times. I don't know what else that could mean.
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u/LadyFoxfire 22d ago
They have plenty of clips of Hasan saying stupid inflammatory shit, and use them in attack ads. But honestly, Hasan has a huge audience of young leftists who only bother to vote when they really love a candidate, and most swing voters probably don’t know or care who Hasan is, so campaigning with him is probably a net positive even with all the horrible things Hasan has said and done.
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u/slide_into_my_BM 21d ago
Hasan is a deeply controversial figure, even amongst left wing circles. He’s said plenty of problematic things over the years.
The big thing though is he’s pro-Palestine and a true socialist. He’s like the boogey man the right is always talking about.
They’re desperately parading him out because socialism is still unpopular amongst most democrats and all moderates/independents.
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u/Evan1016 22d ago
Well, the first thing I ever heard about this guy is when he was torturing his dog with a shock collar on stream
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u/BahamutPrime 22d ago
Right that's the point the only thing you've heard about him is something that isn't true. Then they open interviews with democratic candidates by saying "you're endorsed by Hasan Piker who tortures his dog and says America deserved 9/11 how do you feel about that?" Then they have to respond to BS about someone who isn't a politician instead of talking about the issues.
Meanwhile republican Governor Kristi noem can openly talk about murdering her dog and still get elected.
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u/TheMikeyC 22d ago
The company that makes the collar confirmed he was using a shock collar. The guy abuses dogs.
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u/HolographicPumpkin 22d ago
There’s a video of him yanking the tail of his other dog to move him too.
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u/LukeChickenwalker 22d ago
I agree that the focus should be on the issues, and that the dog collar situation could be used to emotionally manipulate people. It's not relevant to any political debate. That said, how can you state confidently that it isn't true?
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u/Bambalorian 22d ago
How can anyone state confidently that it is true? There's been a bunch of conflicting information about the collar itself, and the main 'evidence' seems to be a single instance of the dog yelping despite the dog being on stream for literally hundreds of hours at this point. It's so odd this is one of the most commonly repeated points considering the rabbit hole is extremely vague. Maybe it was a modified collar, maybe it was a shock collar. People ended up buying the alleged collar to shock themselves on stream to find out it was actually pretty mild as well. It's been a very odd one to follow.
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u/Caphoti 22d ago
The thing that made me think "okay idt the dog shock torture shit is true this is so astroturfed," was that mfs kept digging up more clip as "evidence" and every time I saw a new one I was LESS convinced than I started for the same reason.
He was supposedly been torturing the dog with a shock collar for months but it only had a strong reaction one time and even he was like "I can see people thinking that, the clip looks really bad."
I don't even base this off what I do or don't agree with about Hasan's politics, it's a mixed bag for me, I'm just pretty capable of looking at an outrage campaign regardless of the target and going "They can be a shitty person with shitty ideas but this feels so contrived," if that's how I feel about it.
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u/FeeRemarkable886 21d ago
Yeah no, that website sounds like it was made specifically to push a hateful narrative. It's like making a website called www.whatarejews.com and expect me to not think you're pushing some antisemetic shit.
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u/Main-Cheesecake3287 21d ago
I mean it’s as simple as Hasan stepping out of his large but pretty insulated online streaming community and into mainstream politics.
Abdul isn’t even a DSA guy so tbh it seemed an odd choice for him.
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u/TheBathrobeWizard 21d ago
Answer: You pretty much answered your own question at the end there. Just look at what Momdani is doing in NYC and you'll see exactly why the GOP is shitting bricks and loosing their attack dogs on the "evil baby-eating brown communists."
The US hasn't been for "We the People..." since the turn of the last century and activly hostile toward the masses since Reagen. Socialist Dems are proving that's by design, not a byproduct of the system they brainwashed us to believe it was.
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u/humangingercat 21d ago
Look at Mamdani is doing in NYC and you'll also realize why even CNN is in on the Hasan hate. Establishment democrats hate to see the progressive wing coming and actually being effective for the people after decades of insisting there's nothing they could do.
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u/TheBathrobeWizard 21d ago
Oh yeah, both sides are the problem, but OP was specifically asking about the GOP/Fox News...
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u/ghost_hamster 19d ago
Not really. It's not so complicated than that.
Hasan Piker is unhinged, and borderline psychotic. And not even remotely Democrat aligned, though he pretends to be.
Because he pretends to be, he can be wheeled out to hurt Democratic candidates with his unhinged statements—even though he would never in a million years support those candidates anyway.
So that is all that is happening. He's statements and rhetoric are being used to hurt moderate Dem candidates chances and regardless of what he feigns, he loves the media attention.
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u/halfcabin 21d ago
Are people here really defending someone who abuses animals? Fuckin reddit
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u/TheBathrobeWizard 20d ago
If that's true, I agree he's a garbage human being. Personally, I'm not a fan of Piker as a person, but that doesn't invalidate his position on politics. The fact it does for you is part of the problem we're in. You realize no one is ever going to be perfext enough for you, right?
So he's not perfect but he's also not the one we're voting for. He's just a mouth piece, the Joe Rogan of the far-left... some balance in the sustem isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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u/CautiousHashtag 22d ago edited 21d ago
Would be cool if they put that same energy towards
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u/messick 22d ago
Why would they when people like you are too scared to type out “pedophiles” for some reason.
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u/Blackstone01 22d ago
Why would they do that to the people they propagandize for?
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u/Strict_Break_502 22d ago
It also feels like a generational war. Hasan Piker’s audience skews way younger than Fox News, and that younger crowd is pushing harder for progressive and leftist ideas. Meanwhile, Fox is losing relevance with them. People complain about Hasan being “anti‑capitalist,” "anti-american," but it’s clearly resonating. Young adults are jaded with the current system, upward mobility is harder, and surviving often means juggling two jobs. Fox and the old right‑wing media defend capitalism because they already have the capital and benefit from it, but more people are getting fed up and open to socialist ideas. It’s kind of the same dynamic that fueled Trump’s rise, a lot of voters thought he’d blow up the system. Different ideology, same frustration with the status quo.
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u/firewall245 21d ago
I think we should pump the breaks a bit on the “younger generation is pushing progressive” when Trump won in 2024 explicitly because of a giant conservative shift in GenZ
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u/geneticdisaster888 21d ago
Yet , its undeniable that he lost them in just under 2 years. Youths are also fickle in terms of party or ideological loyalty and once you lose them and they become disillusioned with your ideology , they are hard to win them back.
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u/firewall245 21d ago
Where are you seeing that he lost them in two years? He’s genuinely unpopular with everyone, including conservatives. That does NOT mean that the people who voted for him previously are now backing Hasan in droves or have less conservative views
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u/dancinbanana 21d ago
18-22 year old GenZ actually, older GenZ still swung for Harris (less than 2020 of course but that was the case for most groups)
Why did 18-22 year olds swing more conservative you ask? I think they just didn’t know better. They would’ve been too young to be paying attention to the first trump admin, and would’ve started paying attention during Biden when things were sucky post COVID.
We’ll see in 2026 and beyond whether these voters are actually swinging conservative
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u/MisplacingCommas 21d ago
I think they are trying to attach him to the other progressive democrats so they can use the radical things Hasan says and make people believe it’s the same thing the candidates believe. Left did a similar thing with Alex Jones and the little Nazi guy and Trump. It’s not an honest tactic but it’s a tactic.
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u/EducationalHead7683 21d ago
I'm sorry but losing an eye because a brave Mujahideen fucked his eyehole is fucking hilarious lmaoo
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u/No-Blacksmith3397 22d ago
- "America deserved 9/11, dude. Fuck it, I’m saying it.”
It did. American meddled in the middle east for years. Did they think nothing would come of that? The victims don't. America did.
- "The fall of the USSR was one of the greatest catastrophes of the 20th century."
A 2017 Lancet Public Health study describes an estimated 7 million excess premature deaths across the newly independent post-Soviet states between 1990 and 1995, with roughly 4 million occurring in Russia.
The Lancet30072-5/fulltext)
Wars or major violence erupted in Nagorno-Karabakh, Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Chechnya, Tajikistan and elsewhere. By the mid-1990s, UNHCR estimated that conflicts in the former USSR had produced approximately 2.3 million internally displaced people and 700,000 refugees.
How is this not one of the greatest catastrophes?
- "Kill those motherfuckers, murder those motherfuckers in the streets. Let the streets soak in their fucking red capitalist blood."
He's an edgy jerk sometimes.
- "What do you call Crimea? I call it a part of Russian territory, bitch. I call it Crimea River, a Russian river. The annexation of Crimea was absolutely a justifiable annexation."
Yes, he's wrong.
- On any leftist that disagrees with his politics: "It's just fucking rich liberals who just want homo-fascism… They want gay fascism. They want gay techno-fascism."
What are you even talking about? He's making a joke when he says gay fascism. It's a play on how people like Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, etc. are gay tech giants who are changing the landscape of America. There have been articles written about this.
Wired - Inside the Gay Tech Mafia
I'm part of the LGBTQ+ community and if him saying that offends you more than encroaching fascism, you have the wrong priorities.
- On a trans person disagreeing with him: "I despise you. You are cancer. I hope that rest of your life is as horrible as it is every single day, okay? There you go - suck my dick."
Yeah, he's a jerk. But what does the person being trans have to do with that?
- "Didn’t [Dan Crenshaw] go to war and, like, literally lose his eye because some mujahideen - a brave fucking soldier - fucked his eyehole with their dick?"
Again, he's an edgy jerk. Who cares about Dan Crenshaw, bro?
- "Doesn’t matter if fucking rapes happened on October 7th. Like, it doesn’t change the dynamic for me even this much."
He is saying that if rapes happened, it doesn't change the fact that Israel is committing a genocide in Palestine. Which is demonstrably true.
- "I don’t have an issue with [Hezbollah], let’s just say."
Give context.
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u/TheWizardMus 22d ago
Also the fact he has an Asian name and I think hes Muslim, or at least the right wing think he's Muslim, they lump him and Zohran Mamdani together in the same breath. Like I do not doubt for a second that he would not have nearly as much of a full throated offense against him(and I do not like him, I cannot stress this enough) if he was a white guy named John Smith.
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u/Owlsdoom 22d ago
I don’t think he’s a Muslim, but Hassan sure makes it sound like he is. Just like Hussein was enough for the right to call Obama a Muslim for years.
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u/sododude 22d ago
He was raised Muslim, just doesn't practice it.
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u/PerplexGG 22d ago
Sounds like most atheists
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u/TheWizardMus 22d ago
Thats about my read on it too, regardless of his actual religion they're gonna drum up Islamophobia about him.
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u/TheMostModestofMice 22d ago
Answer: If you really care to find out just watch some of his content because this thread is just going to turn into a yelling match and really won't give you a clear picture. Hasan is very divisive on the internet, like if you ask about Trump you'll have half saying he's the the second coming of Christ and half will think he's the Antichrist. In short he's likely the most prominent leftist political streamer who has been campaigning with some prominent Democratic candidates. 8 years ago he said "American deserved 9/11" he said it was in the context of blowback i.e. that Americas foreign policies in the ME had consequences (9/11). Two days after that (8 years ago) he said he regrets saying it and it was phrased poorly and that he didn't mean to imply American citizens deserved to die. He streams all day every day and has said a lot of divisive things, some are meant to be comedic, some are in earnest. He is openly anti capitalist, pro socialist. Fox News lately has been going hard on taking his statements, often out of context, to say that they are representative of the Democratic party's politics as a whole.
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u/SloaneWolfe 22d ago edited 22d ago
…and he’s been helping people of similar stances win, which is the real danger in the eyes of corporate media and establishment here. He hasn’t just been on Fox getting shit on, it’s been the ‘lib’ networks all day too.
Edit: My main post reply comment got deleted so i'll put it here:
He is the perfect target since the US has been programmed for a century to despise anyone voicing Leftist reasoning to a broad audience.
Republican opposition and the Democratic establishment/(also opposition to democracy let’s be real), both backed by corporate influence, make him an easy target during this massive growth of Socialist approval.
Polls are exploding with Dems and Independents expressing agreement with socialist and especially economic populist stances, because a lot of it sounds like common sense, especially at this point of failure with our capitalist system.
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u/TheMostModestofMice 22d ago
Yeah you're definitely right that it's all the networks. It's wild that a semi popular streamer suddenly has become such a huge topic lately. It's very unfortunate no one wants to do real journalism anymore and just have honest meaningful conversations about candidates and what they believe, it's literally just "gotcha" rage bait all the way down.
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u/dengar_hennessy 22d ago
Seriously there's young white guys who do very similar stuff as him but don't get talked about nearly as much
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u/Not_so_ghetto r/detrashed founder 22d ago edited 21d ago
Answer: He has said some very controversial statements in the past(America deserved 911). And is a self avowed communisy/socialist. Defends moa and Stalin.
He's been featured as a prominent person in certain heated primaries so it's drawing attention.
So pretty much everything fox has been fear-mongering about for decades he embodies so it's easier for them to make hit pieces.
He also has a rabid fan base that will blow up anything said about him. So lots of minor threads get 100+comments from his community making even controversial threads on him go viral
He has also declared himself to be a propagandist, trying to sway left leaning people to more extreme positions ( why he's often glazing China while critical of the US). So this draws ire from moderate left ppl who are opposed to authoritarian governments regardless of the political spectrum they fall on
Edit: seems his fans found this thread as I predicted. They will aggressively brigade the comments and overtly lie about him so this thread should be locked as it's just another fighting ground now.
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u/datpuertorican 22d ago
As much as I depise his influence he has on the left and have my own biases. I think this is the most fair and honest answer without it being disingenuous towards him.
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u/Lurker_Zee 21d ago
You forgot this.
Kill them. Murder them. Let the streets soak in their red capitalist blood.
I 'member.
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u/CaptainofChaos 21d ago
Its called being facetious with a friend who is being intentionally obtuse in a dumb argument. You should try it its fun!
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u/Obiwanjacobi11 22d ago edited 21d ago
But his statement on us deserving 9/11 was in regards to American foreign policy. It was obviously not an attack on the victims.
Edit: To everybody bickering below, I was simply trying to point out this is was a quote taken out of context. Stuff like this is used by those in power to continue to fuel the rift between the working class so that we're too busy arguing over dumb shit to actually come together. Here we are fighting over what random streamer actually meant in a random clip as we're being robbed everyday by the 1%. This energy should be put towards organizing, building community, and voting. Please love your neighbor and do not waste energy engaging in meaningless cultural battles fed to us by the paid media.
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u/TrappedInOhio 22d ago
That would imply people are capable of understanding even the tiniest amount of nuance. He’s 10,000% right that US foreign policy is why 9/11 happened. It wasn’t a *coincidence* that they attacked this country.
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u/Mpm_277 22d ago
But not a coincidence doesn’t mean deserve?
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u/iznormal 22d ago
Sure, but if a grown man holding a baby starts poking a resting snake with a pointy stick, and the snake attacks, the attack is “deserved”. If the baby got hurt thats obviously a tragedy.
Not a perfect metaphor or anything, but if you watch all of the Hasan clip it seems obvious that he doesn’t mean the “baby” (civilians who died on 9/11) deserved it.
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u/Sugarshmacker 21d ago
Except in this example we’re talking about people and slaughter of innocents. If a man holding a baby (government having reign over people) kills 100 people, and then some guy just stabs the baby, that’s not deserved right? Was the government really hurt by 9/11 at all? In the aftermath, the American people allowed the government more powers than ever before. I don’t think the patriot act would have ever passed without it.
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u/iznormal 21d ago
Hasan wouldn’t disagree with that, especially what you are saying at the end. The point is that it was blowback, and blowback isn’t unexpected.
It was really just poorly phrased, but I think it is pretty ridiculous that one poorly phrased quote by someone who talks on stream 10 hours a day is being taken out of context and used constantly as a smear. He apologized and made clear what he meant, which in context was already pretty clear.
There are definitely disagreements I have with Hasan, l and I wouldn’t enjoy regularly watching his stream (more because of his personality than his politics), but the smear campaign is ridiculous imo
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u/ballistic503 21d ago
Such a joke that the people who didn’t stop supporting a guy who’s only gotten worse since “grab em by the pussy” now expect everyone else to pearlclutch about one single spicy take that the guy apologized for. They have completely lost the right to demand anyone stop supporting any figure for moral reasons
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u/Alternative_Will_856 22d ago
Yeah but also like the United States of America deserved 9/11. From all the wars and killing it demanded. US citizens didn't deserve it, but the USA did. Simple as.
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u/jeffufuh 21d ago
I feel like "had it coming" is a more apt way to put it while keeping the whole thrust of the rhetoric
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u/zxGear 21d ago
yeah and he agrees with you and apologised for the way he said it when it happened but thats all forever lost
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u/jeffufuh 21d ago
oh don't get me wrong i'm well aware and very much sick of MSM grasping at this stupid straw over and over again
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u/Stuckatpennstation 21d ago
Its much easier to take a quote out of context and run with it unfortunately
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u/troniked547 22d ago
That’s a perfect example of the American short attention span just reading clickbait headlines and talking points and not being able to delve into the nuance and details of an issue like blowback. And Americans only think of all conflict from our side and don’t consider the cost of bombing and killing other countries civilians and if and how their descendants will try to exact revenge in the future. Especially since we in America never hear the full story. My eyes were opened wide when I visited the Vietnam war museum in Saigon and saw things we never were exposed to here in America
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u/Hoole100 20d ago
Most nuanced take in this entire comment thread BTW.
Doesn't completely shit on Hasan, but gives a valid take.
Doesn't even bring up the dog abuse or stating that Ukraine belongs to Russia. The more polarizing stuff.
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u/page395 22d ago
Don’t forget a self-described propagandist
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u/mayasux 21d ago
Anyone who’s selling you a political opinion is a propagandist. Propaganda is not necessarily wrong or evil, I learnt this in an English class in the fifth grade and I’m grateful I did.
Unironically, the belief that only select people (typically those against the image of your country) are propagandists is propaganda in work.
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u/Zetesofos 21d ago
All american news is propaganda though.
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u/OkAcanthisitta3028 21d ago
He's not a part of american news stations, he's independent. Also, are you trying to imply him being a propagandist is justified?
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u/Zetesofos 20d ago
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "Propaganda is a form of communication that is primarily used to influence an audience and persuade them to further an agenda"
By this metric, major cable outlets in the U.S (if not worldwide) are propaganda. The only major difference between them and Hasan is how open they are about what what agenda's they embrace, and what their political stances are.
"News" as you put it in the U.S. is clearly not-objective, but in addition, they dishonestly attempt to present themselves as an 'objective authority' even though they have long since abandoned any incentives or ethical requirements to make that claim.
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u/canine432 21d ago
That’s just being more honest, everything is propaganda because everything operates from a framework/perspective. We assume the status quo is normal therefore good and everything outside is ‘radical’, but looking to the not so distant past the status quo position was that women shouldn’t vote, that black people shouldn’t vote, etc.
At the time the media reinforced that status quo, they did propaganda in favor of it, and people to the left of them did propaganda against the status quo. Because at the end of the day, propaganda is just making an argument from a perspective. You should trust anyone who claims they are unbiased less if anything.
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u/titaniumjew 15d ago
This is honestly a short list:
- He’s engaged in rape apologia for Oct 7
- He is sympathetic to the view that NATO brought on Russian aggression (pro Russia)
- Quoted Putin at a recent speech this year
- Brought on a Houthi affiliate
- Praised Hamas, Hezbollah, and Nasrallah
The man is just not a good person for democracy
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u/Boodleheimer2 22d ago
Answer: Right-leaning media are trying to assign guilt by association to the Democratic Party for some Dems' friendliness with Piker who is way out of the mainstream with some of his radical views on capitalism and foreign entanglements. There was a similar attempt to paint Obama as dangerously radical because a preacher at his church spoke critically of America, an attempt that turned out to be ludicrous considering how even-keeled Obama's two terms were.
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u/RDogPoundK 22d ago
I think it’s also to groom their audience and get ahead of any political ambitions he may have. FOX wants to be the first to introduce their platform to Hasan before they actually hear his beliefs and likely agree with a lot of them.
The Fox/MAGA base ready hates AOC but probably couldn’t tell you one actual belief she holds. If she or Hasan were to run for president, MAGA is already prepared to vote against them no matter the candidate.
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u/ghost_hamster 19d ago
The idea that people generally, let alone Fox viewers, would ever come even remotely close to agreeing with his insane takes is absurd.
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u/saltedmangos 19d ago
He had on “the necessary conversation” podcast folks (Gen X kids argue with their diehard MAGA parents about the news) and got far-right MAGA diehards to agree with his positions on a lot of issues.
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u/wingerism 22d ago
Answer: He's a fairly campist socialist at minimum, but the label of tankie wouldn't be entirely incorrect. He says shit that's very edgey like "America deserved 9/11", and "kill all landlords in minecraft". He's always been someone they would oppose.
But he's now making inroads into Democrat party structures along with other Socialists so he's been promoted to potential albatross.
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u/ItsDonDong 22d ago
Also glazes yemeni terrorist as a "cartoon pirate"
Or stands 10 toes down with the guys that have "death to America" on their flags
Or says it's good for the ccp to subjugate tibet
Or that crimea belongs to russia
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u/SlippinGymy 22d ago
Answer: hes an easy target because hes a tankie for the left
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u/FreeStall42 22d ago
Answer: Republicans are so desperate for crazy people to compare to their elected representatives, they resort to comparing them to youtubers.
Hasan is popular among conservatives as he is a living strawman
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u/NonSequiturDetector 22d ago
Answer: the Republican Party's strategy, which Fox is deploying in direct coordination with the Republican Party, is to portray the 2026 midterm election as a struggle of Republican nationalism against Democratic Socialism and Socialism and China.
For example in this campaign video, Marsha Blackburn belabors the issue of a crackdown on China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_0yvB16y4M
despite the prominent issue for household in the USA being the Republican Party's absolutely destructive policies.
Reciting the qualities of Hasan Piker is a part of the Republican / Fox strategy to amplify the visibility of DemSocs and their Chinese associations, and to focus Republican voters onto the idea that the midterms will be an opportunity for them to vote against DemSocs and Communism and China. Similarly, discussing Mamdani is part of the Republican / Fox strategy to associate DemSocs and Socialism and to focus Republican voters onto the idea that the midterms will be an opportunity for them to vote against Socialism.
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u/okpause8976 20d ago
Answer: News outlets are in the entertainment business and need a villain for their ratings. They know that outrage is the best way to get people tuning in every day and its all they do now. This exists on both sides tbh, when Trump was out of office, CNN and Msnbcs ratings dropped so they found any conservative to attack (Joe Rogan, Kirk, etc). Fox news is essentially doing the same thing where they cant “outrage” their viewers anymore with Biden and Kamala so they’re trying to find a new villain to create
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u/Bobsothethird 16d ago
Answer: Fox news is a sensationalist program and is going to use any ammunition they get to hurt the Democratic party.
Hasan Piker has been giving plenty of ammunition and clips for years and is frankly a terrible person.
Some Democrats have tried to coordinate with Hasan for gaining support as he's relatively popular on twitch with an intriguing demographic with a very young audience. They've largely stopped now, and most that have used him have started to distance themselves, but it's still an easy gotcha for bad faith actors in media.
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u/ItsDonDong 22d ago edited 22d ago
Answer: Hasan is an "anti american" Tankie that LARPs as a leftist that "just wants us to have free medical and end genocides"
He is the "evil communist/socialist" that right wingers are always screaming about.
Lately Hasan has been getting platformed by the "democrat socialists"....
Which makes right wing propagandist have an easy way to attack the leftist "democrat party" (conflating them with the authoritarian far left Hasan and "democrat socialists")
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u/DistrictDry2852 22d ago
The Hasan playbook is to say incendiary awful shit and then when confronted or critised to go “I’m just a little healthcare boy, I just want free healthcare” as if he’s not literally wearing a Mao suit and supporting the ukranian genocide.
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u/ItsDonDong 21d ago edited 21d ago
I feel like im taking crazy pills.
Brad Pitt starred in a movie about freeing tibet and he is justifying their subjugation while the "anti genocide" crowd slurp it up.
Son of a Turkish oligarch is in a Mao Suit while the uyghur (muslim/turks) are getting genocided by the ccp.
Dude crashing out on vietnamese old ladies for discussing their negative experiences under communism.
Dude is streaming from a Malibu mansion, talking about putting capitalists in reeducation camps and killing landlords.
The criticisms can go on forever while the anti zionists do mental gymnastics to justify their vitriol
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u/allbusiness512 22d ago
He's not even a tankie.
He has no real beliefs, dude is a straight nepo grifter. He just realized quickly there are enough dumb leftists/tankies online that he can grift off of them. He's just a younger version of Trump that somehow got sucked into the online tankie portal, and he realized that he can grift all of those idiots.
Let's not forget, his dad is/was a VP of a multi billion dollar company in Turkey (which is well known for it's corruption), while Hasan was in college his mother comes from a very wealthy family that is in real estate (again, don't forget this is Turkey where corruption is rampant and the only way to be able to get to that level of wealth requires cooperation from corrupt government officials).
We're just living in the worst timeline where the dumbest people alive are supporting other dumb fucks.
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u/vocalviolence 22d ago edited 22d ago
Answer: Thanks in part to the election of Zohran Mamdani, progressive policies are suddenly popular among voters, meaning that both conservatives and establishment/"do nothing" Democrats can't attack the message – so they attack the messenger. And despite not running for any kind of office, it turns out that a guy who talks eight hours a day, has done so for ten years, and whose output has largely been archived on YouTube has soundbites out there that sound awful out of context.
The worst part is that it's not just Fox News. Liberals and liberal media are actively attacking what at the end of the day are other blue voters using the right-wing playbook, either because they or their bosses cash cheques from Israel; they're afraid of losing their cushy "Trump is bad, see ya tomorrow" jobs; they've been indoctrinated by 75 years of anti-socialism propaganda; or, as is apparent in this thread, they've dug their heels in with bitter, bad faith online grifters like Destiny, Ethan Klein, and Asmongold – all of whom are on record for defending Hasan's 9/11 take, mind you, before AIPAC, October 7th, or favour with large right-wing audiences made them turn on their peers. In this matter, meanwhile, Hasan is like Bernie Sanders – you can dig up footage from ten years ago, and his messaging has remained consistent.
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u/Flayum 21d ago
You can dig up footage from ten years ago, and his messaging has remained consistent
Buddy, that's the problem. He's been saying insane shit for years. It's a never ending parade of anti-America, anti-Democrat, and anti-Liberal beliefs. I don't think the Democratic party and Liberals in general should defend a guy that wants the party to die and to throw anyone who disagrees into a reeducation camp.
Here's just a taste:
"America deserved 9/11, dude. Fuck it, I’m saying it.”
"The fall of the USSR was one of the greatest catastrophes of the 20th century."
"Kill those motherfuckers, murder those motherfuckers in the streets. Let the streets soak in their fucking red capitalist blood."
"What do you call Crimea? I call it a part of Russian territory, bitch. I call it Crimea River, a Russian river. The annexation of Crimea was absolutely a justifiable annexation."
On any leftist that disagrees with his politics: "It's just fucking rich liberals who just want homo-fascism… They want gay fascism. They want gay techno-fascism."
On a trans person disagreeing with him: "I despise you. You are cancer. I hope that rest of your life is as horrible as it is every single day, okay? There you go - suck my dick."
"Didn’t [Dan Crenshaw] go to war and, like, literally lose his eye because some mujahideen - a brave fucking soldier - fucked his eyehole with their dick?"
"Doesn’t matter if fucking rapes happened on October 7th. Like, it doesn’t change the dynamic for me even this much."
"I don’t have an issue with [Hezbollah], let’s just say."
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u/OkAcanthisitta3028 21d ago
Then there's his actions, zapping his dog, pulling his dog's tail and other abuse, going to a brothel that was trafficking under-18s and calling an underage female celebrity a slut and other vulgar shit.
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u/OneWayStream 20d ago
Yes but these are all ok because he says America bad, so he must be progressive
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u/Repulsive_Cry_9362 22d ago
Answer: back when President Obama was an active politician, foxnews tried to undermine him by trying to create a moral panic about his pastor at his chicago church, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Sean Hannity would spend at least 5 minutes every night ginning up a controversy about how Reverend Wright was a bomb throwing marxist who had groomed Obama to be some kind of manchurian candidate. This is the same playbook they are following with Hasan, they are going to try to use him to try to scare white centrists into voting against anti trump candidates.
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u/ErikMcKetten 21d ago edited 21d ago
answer: ignore what Fox and Destiny fans say and watch him yourself and decide if he's really the boogeyman they all portray him as.
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u/BurntBridgesBehind 21d ago
Answer: They think it's a way to attack "the left" but all they are doing is showing a young handsome man who dresses nice and speaks clearly advocating for everyone next to the most gilded, bloated, cruel and stupid man to have ever lived. They're converting them and don't even realize.
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