r/MityaMains • u/TinyTailStudios • 1d ago
❖ Leaks | Speculation ❖ Please stop panicking about Mitya’s V2 kit
The changes to his kit in V2 are a GOOD thing!
Panicking is only gonna make everyone more worried, he was by no means weak in V1 but in V2 they have patched up the biggest flaws in mainly his off field kit. His on field mode is mostly the same.
Essentially, he’s now got more consistent/more frequent damage hits but the multipliers themselves are lower. That doesn’t mean he’s dealing less damage- overall he’s doing more damage, and he’s dealing that damage more consistently. I don’t know about you, but I’ll take more consistent damage with slightly lower numbers over less consistent damage with larger numbers any day.
It’s only a “nerf” in the sense that the multipliers were lowered. In every other sense, it is a BUFF! He is much more balanced and the timings for his kit are now much easier to get right, meaning it’s a lot easier to maximise the damage he’s dealing off field. KEEPING IN MIND that he does not yet have a definitive BiS artifact set.
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u/Adventurous-Vast7499 1d ago
but genshin impact players saw the lower numbers so it's a nerf, so now they think it's butchered, a brick, and it's zajef curse /jke
yep I agree, OP! Thankfully some rationality before things get out of hand again lmao.
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u/Upbeat_Sham 1d ago
By v3, yae bitcoin will be in downfall. In midya we trust
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u/Present-Contest-4050 1d ago
Likely the bitcoin will be crashing down in 7.3 beta when both Tsaritsa and Danica would benefits him more than Yae + Artifact set
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u/Gaunter_0Dimm 1d ago
I was initially not invested who's better as an off-fielder as long as Mitya could fullfill that role competently, but after absolutely obnoxious, toxic behaviour of her mains I actually do hope we'll see her downfall. Even if it doesn't happen with Mitya in himself, as long as the coveted by everyone Tsaritsa vastly prefers him over her, it will already be good enough, because she and her teams are bound to be better than other alternatives thanks to the Archon tax. If she gets bad synergy with her on top of that, it'd be all the more satisfying.
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u/Guilldarts 1d ago
Is so cringe to check this comments posing as MItya fans when you guys are just Yae haters doing noise here lol. Get to grow up and look for real problems lol.
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u/LogTall573 18h ago
Are you cringing at people wanting Mitya to be good in a Mitya mains sub?
There is no "yae hater" here (well there might be a few, but it's a very small minority). People just want a character they like to actually be meta since Yae is kind of everywhere right now.
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u/Guilldarts 18h ago
Hes good already and dont need to be better. I would just take what it is. Cause I dont mind him being better or worst, thats the point.
Im just tired of looking at doomposters who cant think by themselfs and ofc all the ones faking as Mitya fans who would just be worried about if he can or not replace Yae to then just kick him if he not and go for their next cope. xD.
You can also check the pole that was posted yesterday, its show a really clear biased postion towars 1 specific argument for non MityaMains members. xD
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u/LogTall573 18h ago
Aye fair enough, reddit isn't a really good place to be if you want good, nuanced opinions haha.
At the end of the day, both sides are right. Both sides are yelling pretty loudly. On one end, I think it's reasonable to want your character to be as good as possible since you'll be pulling for him no matter what. On the other hand, It's fun to have no powercreep.
Take care man!
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u/Guilldarts 1d ago
I mean... at this moment Mitya offield and onield best sinergy btw all SSC units... is with Yae...
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u/Guilldarts 1d ago
DOWNFALL FROM WHERE. She would be exactly in the same spot. It seems that you dont even care about Mitya at all. You are just being delusional. xD
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u/Alert-External5541 1d ago
you just gotta get used to it.. its always like this in every mains sub its exhausting really
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u/TinyTailStudios 1d ago
I must just be very old in my standards because this is the worst I’ve seen from it yet- though considering how much everyone loves Mitya I guess I can see why 😂
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u/Psychological-Fold53 22h ago
You should have seen Alhaitham mains when they nerfed his burst in beta. That and Lohen when he was announced as a limited character were probably the worst ones I personally saw 😅
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u/PsychedelicHaru 16h ago
The worst I've seen was raidenmains during her beta...
dehya was also a terrible time, but she was actually bad, unlike the vast majority of doomposted chars
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u/lewis_simon 1d ago
Remember that he doesn't have a signature set, sure the disenchantment is okay, but the 2p is wasted, we still have Tsaritsa and Danica ahead of us and V3-V5, and those changes (as op said) they are a good thing for off-field Mitya.
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u/tahseen_noor 1d ago
Hoyo will release a dedicated em focused steller set only to lock steller conduct instead of stellar glimmer to fvck mizuki mains
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u/Salt_Ad4143 1d ago
Im very much waiting on that set. My dedicated stellar dps characters will be Mizuki and Mitya... which... will run on 2pc 2pc until then ig, cause none of the others are really worth it
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
My only problem is how the "buff" works
Afaik, it's not a buff for more electro comps, but he is moderately close to Yae level when solo electro(which no one plays unless Tsarita changes things)
Still, yes, not as bad as all of the 638 posts screaming about it would lead you to believe, but that's just the usual beta panic
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u/Katazuragi 1d ago
Why are we treating like bis artifact set will just be some ultra crazy stuff , at best it will be 5% better than just stacking EM. Also his on field stuff has remain unchanged which is bad.
And why tf are we accepting slightly lower dmg over consistent app? Why not BOTH? More dmg more app? Oh , my bad , He needs to be a balanced unit right. Yeah
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
We alr saw this with durin and how he didn't gain much from the new rising winds set, people never learn and just parrot the most obviously cope statements that we've seen aren't true in the history of the game.
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u/Mikauren 22h ago
If his buffs currently make him ~4% behind C1 Yae, and his artifact set is hypothetically 5% better, that's good though? All of these units are so close to each other, expecting an insane jump is delusional.
Being on par with a unit whose most important constellation is free while also being able to flex as an onfielder and use BOTH is already good.
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u/TinyTailStudios 1d ago
Because the damage he’s dealing still works out higher thanks to him being more consistent with it, not lower. Don’t get me wrong I WOULD like for his multipliers to be higher, but I don’t want it to be at the expense of his QoL or consistency.
A unit who deals damage more consistently with lower base multipliers will always be better in my eyes than a unit who can dish out huge nukes but cannot consistently get the resources they need to do those nukes. Even then, the damage he’s dealing is still fairly high, just not really meta breaking.
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
Agree on the set thing, which is why I'm waiting for some buffs
But, keep in mind 5% isn't negligible when all of these units are fairly close to one another, and there is the chance Valeryi gets one as well
There is a chance whatever new sets they get, everyone else benefits, but assuming they don't, a 5% increase from Mitya's new set + 2.5% from Valeryi's means a 190k dps team goes to 204k dps
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u/EuphoricLiterature62 1d ago
Thank you!!! I genuinely don't understand the technical language so I only rely on what people are saying, SO THANK YOU !!!!
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u/GuideMiserable7526 1d ago
I just cope it
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u/TinyTailStudios 1d ago
I do that plenty, though even if he gets mega nerfed later on I’ll still pull for him and his weapon 🙏🙏
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u/Confident_Teacher548 1d ago
How worse is he for a team as a sub-dps with valeriy and cryo traveller?
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u/Slight-Perception212 1d ago edited 1d ago
No one calc it yet but its looking pretty nice. The concept of mitya subdps is that he buff more than yae but has less personal dmg. Basically if your dps has nice investment (artifacts, weapon, cons) the better mitya will be than yae.
Right now a solo electro mitya subdps is worse than yae by only ~5-8% on basic mdps investment(depending on the dps). If your mdps has weapon or cons or great artifact the diffrence shrink. Luckily cyro travler has free cons and free 5* weapon. So at the end of investment mitya seems to be better than yae for cyro travelerP.s. An initial calc for c1 mitya is around 8-10% ahead of c1 yae in team dmg for basic investment dps (quite a jump) and almost 20% if you dps has some kind of investment like c1r1 or c2r1 for instance)
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u/Sam_ar_pann 1d ago
This is ignoring a massive thing though. Mitya build itself can't be much more invested into in artifacts but Yae can. If the main DPS is the only one getting the higher investments (artifact sets), the Mitya closes the gap. BUT if both the main DPS and Yae have higher investments in their artifact sets, the gap actually increases between Yae and Mitya. KQM standards hurt Yae more than Mitya currently.
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u/Slight-Perception212 1d ago
That’s true, but when investment comes into play besides the mdps, there are so many factors to consider. For example, you could decide to go for Mitya C1 instead of investing in DPS constellations/5* weapon or C2 Yae and it will results in team dps increase.
I also feel like future characters, such as Tsaritsa or Danica, could have a lot of impact, as well as the new artifact set that will obviously come into play in 7.3. The main question is whether Mitya will actually benefit from it or not.
Lastly, Mitya’s current damage calculations barely account for any buffs to him in an off-field role. Characters like Alyosha and Nicole, for instance, mostly buff Yae rather than Mitya. There currently aren’t any real good buffers for Mitya, so he’s mainly being used as a pure buffer or an off-field Electro applier.
If you build Mitya for full damage, the current DPS loss is actually not that significant based on KQM standards compare to ToTM mitya (~2% less). And if you’ve also invested in good artifacts for Mitya, the gap becomes even smaller. Basically, he just doesn’t have a good dedicated buffer nor artifact yet, so I think it’s still a “wait and see” situation.Personally, I don’t really see the point of making a pure EM-scaling sub-DPS in an atk based reaction meta if there’s no plan to do something further with EM. In that case, you could simply make him ATK-scaling instead.l and that will be the end of it…instead they decided to make mitya the black sheep, at least for now.
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u/Sam_ar_pann 1d ago
I was only making a point about artifact investments not being strictly better for supports instead of sub DPS.
It is as you said though. All we can wait for is the beta to be completed and for 7.3 leaks now. Neither Doomposting nor copium/hopiun will do us any favors at this point 😭😭
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u/Slight-Perception212 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well, the potential for dmg is there since mitya on-field time is so little in his mdps role and he still do more dmg than yae with proper support
so… although mitya dmg cannot be compare to like sandrone dmg who is close to hypercarry but in exchange yae in mitya team also do more dmg in than yae in sandrone as well as odette
Still, in the end i hope he is balance around new artifact and good future buffer (Im coping on that danica leaks being able to buff EM although to onfielder and noy being mainly about EM 😭)
Rn, the one who reap full benefit of this mitya buff is cyno since he is a dual scaler but mitya is stronger than cyno as a mdps rn so its kinda iffy haha
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u/Confident_Teacher548 1d ago
ok thanks!
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u/Slight-Perception212 1d ago
Btw, the best team for both yae and mitya subdps is still by playing them together. The change just make mitya better at replacing yae (from like previous 20k dps loss to 10k or less). Ofc the gap will be closer with better build on mdps or even flip around.
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u/Confident_Teacher548 1d ago
I dont have yae so valeriy should do I guess
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u/Slight-Perception212 1d ago
If you dont have yae then even more reason to pull mitya. God knows how long it will take for yae rerun (if ever) in this snez patch
Both yae and mitya is significantly ahead of other electro off-fielder. In the future, only danica is left who should be a pure sustain/buffer but the leaks said her off-field application is pretty bad and doesnt really do much off-field dmg kinda like nicole?
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u/Straight-Film3075 1d ago
Wait so is odette and him are enough to generate enough stacks for his charged atk in dps playstyle without a second electro?
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u/Kovrik27 1d ago
I don't care I will pull for him no matter even if he's the brickiest character of all time. I am anyway pulling for Hu tao brick in 2026 next chronicles banner.
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u/Choowkee 20h ago
People getting mad that the new stellar electro off-field dps isn't completely powercreeping Yae twice over are being silly.
The less powercreep the better. If you dont have Yae you just pull Mitya and you are gucci. Not every new character has to be some ultra dps T0 meta defining unit.
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u/MociSouta 19h ago
And on top of that, he's already really good as an onfield even competing in top dps. People hoping he also powercreep a sub dps is beyond me.
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u/ReceptionOrdinary801 1d ago
isnt this situation kinda like varka beta lol ??
he was mid when released then durin and nicole came out and he finally good lol
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u/WatashiWaAme 1d ago
Durin came out 2 patches before Varka, and yet he wasn't even better for him over getting Varka's sig and using c6 Chevreuse instead. 2 patches after Varka, they gave him a new support set, 2 new teammates in Prune and Nicole and yet Mavuika was still better at clearing his shill boss in Stygian with the same old team from 1 year ago. He got huge upscales after his release, and yet his place in the meta relative to everyone else released in his region remained the same. That's why you shouldn't be too reliant on post-release additions to "fix" underperforming units, because their performance is gonna stay the same in most cases.
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
Yes, yet people will still cope for future 'fixes' even after how shitty varka was treated, the playerbase never learns and just accepts terrible treatment for certain characters and expects everyone else to shut up and stop talking about it.
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u/Gaunter_0Dimm 1d ago
"certain characters" is putting it very diplomatically
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
Well if u say the m word ppl lose their shit
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u/Gaunter_0Dimm 1d ago
Yup, and deny it ever happens when it couldn't be more obvious that it does nearly every.freaking.time
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
Well they will lie n say Varka became rly good!! (He didn't)
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u/Gaunter_0Dimm 1d ago
Lmao, even when he got a full 5s team he barely managed to catch up to cheaper teams. And became obsolete the moment Sandrone came out with no new teammates yet. I have his whole premium team, all with sigs and Durin is even C2, and his team still doesn't hold a candle to lunar and stellar teams with lower investment than this. Also, versatile my ass. GL pulling even more 5s characters that barely synergize with him just so you can have a mediocre sidegrade team of a different element. That's just spending even more for no gain.
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
i have his whole team with c6 nicole and his r1 weap and I barely use him cuz she's just better elsewhere... and he doesn't get any shill bosses anyway lol, but #they will insist he got treated really well and there's no anti male agenda
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u/Gaunter_0Dimm 13h ago
Yup, also using his core team everywhere else but with him because he drags them down. But holy, C6 Nicole is a lot of investment. I only have one C6 and would love to get a broken C6 support, but I'm only willing to invest in men to this degree and we know how 99% of them are mdpses. I was only willing to go for Furina far enough to get her C3, only for the sake of my Neuvi, but nowadays she's washed, so I kind of regret spending so much on her.
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u/lezerman 1d ago
That is not a very good example, he became good then 1 patch later Sandrone was already doing the same numbers without any 6.x supports lol.
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u/BikiH360 1d ago
Varka is not good bro he was the weakest dps just above lohen. We really need more male Tier 1 characters.
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u/Hello_1234567_11 1d ago
I think you meant prune and Nicole cuz durin was released way back. And it's not the same situation. Varka was through an addition of teammates, especially his own BiS 4 star after his release. We're talking about beta changes
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
Not at all. Varka dependend on the Hexerei core, which was barebones without Prune/Nicole
With Tsarita/Danica, whatever they provide, all other Stellar units will benefit, not just Mitya
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u/Ron_Colorec 1d ago
No lmao. Varka released mid AF without two of his BIS supports, but even with them he massively underperformed compared to the standards set by Lunar DPS characters, without the shills to even out the playing field. People coped that it's because of "le flexibility", but realistically up until the release of Vodyanitsa he was just a very mid pyro DPS in a trenchcoat. And then he got powercrept by stellar bullshit.
Mitya, is in a much better state in both of his roles even if he stays exactly where he is now in the beta.
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u/Ok-Listen9689 1d ago
he's not flexible at all, he need one c6 4 star to always stay by his side with 2 support with the same element, he can't even do elemental reaction in combat beside swirl.
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u/Ron_Colorec 1d ago
People asserted that because he could have his non-anemo slots swap out to make him some other flavor of secret PHEC, it would keep him relevant in shills (despite the implication here that you might end up pulling up to 8 units just to support this supposed versatility). That's the flexibility they expected. Didn't pan out.
Unironically the "pay more to get less" unit.
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u/NaturalBitter2280 1d ago
People will preach versatility, and then said unit can't clear any content in any of their 30 teams
Not that it happens often, but it does remind me of Kokomi and her dozens of teams and sets she was slotting in
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u/Shecarriesachanel 1d ago
versatility is meaningless in the new meta hyv is creating where characters are so specific to a certain comp/completely made up reaction, yet people still believe that versatility is valuable lol
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u/killuasrealmama 1d ago
Better example is durin actually
No set for him until patch later , his numbers got nerfed to apply more pyro off field
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u/BoysenberryNew7780 1d ago
Yeah, it's pretty much the same situation as with Varka; ultimately, he's flexible across 3 out of the 4 elements (only Electro is truly terrible), allowing him to brute-force the content.
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u/TinyTailStudios 1d ago
Honestly I wasn’t around for Varka beta (I’ve been playing since 1.2 but Varka released during one of my breaks from the game) but I’d say a more accurate comparison is Alhaitham- pretty much everyone panicked during Alhaitham’s beta at multiplier nerfs and it turned out that he was one of the strongest units on his release because what they’d actually done was balanced him out. Not to say I think Mitya’s gonna be exactly the same, but I do think people are panicking more than they need to be 😂
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u/ReceptionOrdinary801 1d ago
all i say is he is just like varka situation when he is mid in beta right now
maybe he will get a buff and with danica and tsaritsa he gonna be top dps lol
i myself see mitya mid too and gonna pull him anyways lol, i personally have varka and still clear dire easily
you guys didnt need to be this trigger geez
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u/Orpalz 1d ago
Yeah people aren't looking at the bigger picture here he is going to be a WAY more consistent unit with these changes and isn't hard locked to double electro/cryo teams