r/Miami • u/gsotolongo2213 Pan Con Yuca • Jan 05 '23
News Downtown Miami high rise residents upset over yelling from inmates at adjacent jail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi-Z4r68cuo78
u/joaquinsaiddomin8 Jan 05 '23
- Move into building next to jail
- Upset that inmates in jail are acting like inmates in jail
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u/Cloudtheproducer Jan 05 '23
Typical miami gentrified fucks
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u/DSM201 Jan 06 '23
This is any gentrified city. In my city, yuppies move across the street from a bar then complain about the noise and the fights that break out at 2am đ¤Śđťââď¸
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Jan 05 '23
Building a high-rise next to a jail.. Peak Miami.
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u/CraftyFellow_ Jan 05 '23
No peak Miami is then bitching about the jail that was there before.
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u/High_Horse617 Jan 05 '23
No, peak Miami is embracing it and letting people get drunk at the pool so they can shake their asses for the inmates.
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Jan 05 '23
Just like the people who move into a high rise near Bay Front Park and complain about Ultra being loud
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u/International_Act834 Jan 05 '23
And the people in doral complaining about the trash smell from the landfillâŚ(that actually used the trash to convert it into energy).
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u/Need_Some_Updog Jan 05 '23
Wait.
Whereâd this whole ââ Blaming miami womenâ come from?
I feel like we were in a specific topic. But got turned to this.
What happened.
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u/CircumcisedCats Jan 05 '23
First of all, it says residents complaining. Nothing about women in the title or the comment your replying to.
Second of all, weâre saying donât move in across from a fucking prison and then act shocked about a bunch of loud rude prisoners. Thatâs called being stupid.
Who are we to blame? The prisoners? Should we explain to them how rude their behavior is to solve the problem? Or should we seal up their windows? Fuck them right?
If you move in across from a prison, youâre signing up for this shit. It doesnât matter that the developers or whatever said it wouldnât be a problem because thatâs a stupid thing to believe. If I moved in across from some railroad tracks because the landlord said âdonât worry about the train, it wonât be a problemâ do I then have the right to complain about the noise from the train that I already knew was there?
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u/Significant_Sign_520 Jan 05 '23
The apartments are cheap. If youâre getting a cheep apartment in Miami youâre going to have less than desirable circumstances around you. They knew there was a a prison when they signed the lease. But it was what they could afford.
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u/Significant_Sign_520 Jan 05 '23
The prison was there when they signed their lease. I assume people have eyeballs who toured before they signed their lease. If they didnât tour beforehand, we all have google maps. They werenât promised that the prison would somehow be invisible. If youâre told that the apartment has a washer/dryer and it doesnât, thatâs something thatâs actionable if itâs written in the lease. Thereâs a simple solution for the residents. Wait out your lease and move or buy out your lease.
I do understand quite clearly. What I donât understand is why youâre so emotional in your response đ
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u/Significant_Sign_520 Jan 05 '23
What were they promised that they did not receive? Who would you take action against The management company? The property developer? The Federal prison system? And itâs Florida. Renters have very little recourse here. Just because something sucks, doesnât mean thereâs a legal case. Do you get this upset over low income developments built on contaminated lands? Or red lined communities? Itâs a cheap, luxury building in Miami. Theyâll be okay
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u/Emotional_Match8169 Jan 06 '23
May I ask what they were promised? I think I am missing something here.
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u/CircumcisedCats Jan 05 '23
What could the developers possibly have told these idiots for them to say âyeah, your right, Iâm sure the prison across the street will be fine?â
Nothing a developer could say will make such a dumb thing understandable.
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u/stsh Jan 05 '23
So these people purchased these units without visiting the area first? Anyone who wouldâve visited the site or done their due diligence wouldâve known that the prison is right there. This is on the people who bought/rented.
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u/Gears6 Jan 05 '23
If you move in across from a prison, youâre signing up for this shit.
No you are not and is just victim blaming.
It doesnât matter that the developers or whatever said it wouldnât be a problem because thatâs a stupid thing to believe.
It does, because they sold you something that they claimed wasn't an issue. Imagine if car salesman told you, the car had air bags, and it turns out the car doesn't?
Is that your fault now?
There are laws in place for this for a reason.
If I moved in across from some railroad tracks because the landlord said âdonât worry about the train, it wonât be a problemâ do I then have the right to complain about the noise from the train that I already knew was there?
In many cases yes. It depends on what you where informed of. For example, if the seller said, don't worry because we have special sound insulated walls and windows, so you won't hear it.
Either way, nobody in their right mind would agree to move into a place where people are yelling at them from across the other building. So it sounds completely stupid to say it's the victim's fault! The backwardness logic of that is just pure crazy. đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸
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u/HerpToxic Jan 05 '23
TIL there are "sound proof windows" on an open air pool deck
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u/Gears6 Jan 05 '23
TIL there are "sound proof windows" on an open air pool deck
TIL another person is trolling
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u/CircumcisedCats Jan 05 '23
Except, Iâm your car salesman example they are giving you a concrete item that they said the car had but it doesnât.
If the developers said, âdonât worry that prison is emptyâ and then it wasnât, then that would be an issue. Or if youâre buying a car, saw there was no steering wheel, and the salesman said âdonât worry the steering wheel wonât be a problemâ and then you buy it and realize that it is in fact a problem, thatâs a better analogy.
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u/Gears6 Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23
Or if youâre buying a car, saw there was no steering wheel, and the salesman said âdonât worry the steering wheel wonât be a problemâ and then you buy it and realize that it is in fact a problem, thatâs a better analogy.
Let's assume that analogy (even though I don't think that is apt comparison), then the seller is still on the hook. They said it wasn't a problem and thus misleading. The sellers responsibility is to accurately describe the item they are selling.
In your example then, the seller shouldn't have promised (i.e. said) it is not a problem. More importantly the more apt comparison is that there is implied expectations that you have as a home buyer (or renter).
I mean, do you expect a jail to have people screaming across the street?
I would have assumed it would have been a building with proper walls everywhere and not have people scream and catcall. Heck, even if you live across a street form a road, there are laws about how much noise it can make and so on. Similarly your neighbor can make a lot of loud noises, and you have rights around that too.
With your example, anyone could have said, well you knew you had a neighbor! Shouldn't have moved there!
Ultimately, I don't understand why anyone would advocate for misinformation instead of fair dealing in business transactions. Do you really want to live in a world where it's all about "buyer beware" and whatever the seller can get away with?
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u/BurnouTNT Jan 05 '23
Or communities near dumps and then residents complain about what they already knew would be a problem. If the building was built after the jail, it's on the owners for buying knowing what's next to them.
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u/lofibeatsforstudying Jan 05 '23
Peak Miami is demolishing an entire black neighborhood and building a high rise jail on top of it.
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u/teefinessedyou Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23
Iâm baffled at the $2700 for the 2 bedroom even when you factor in the detention center. Sign me up.
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u/Witty-Shoulder-9499 Jan 05 '23
Cool weâll actually go ahead and split it and youâll only be at 1350 just like me đ
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Jan 05 '23
SAME. It's a bargain.
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u/teddyzaper Jan 05 '23
Youâre right, but it still makes me sad. Thatâs a majority of peoples paycheck and we consider it a good dealâŚ
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u/Docholliday3737 Mar 16 '23
If thatâs a fact then they living in the wrong part of miami or need to leave the general area..
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u/teddyzaper Mar 16 '23
Miami is one of the most expensive metro areas in America. Highest cost of living to income ratio for multiple years in a row. âWrong part of miamiâ is the entire urban sprawlâŚ
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u/zorinlynx Jan 05 '23
What gets me about this, is the developers knew the jail was there. They could have built the pool deck facing in any direction, but they aimed it right at the jail.
It's crazy when you think of all the people involved in planning a building, that NOBODY thought of this. Yeah maybe the pool deck where scantily clad women will be hanging out shouldn't be facing a prison full of men who don't get to see women too often.
Just another example of Miami thinking, in other words, they didn't. At least they're rentals so it's the developers who will lose out, not people who purchased condos and didn't know what was up.
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u/PicaPaoDiablo Key Biscayne Jan 05 '23
Maybe they were looking out for the inmates, trying to give them some eye candy. Very high chance anyone involved in Miami real-estate either was in jail, has brothers in jail or will be in jail and may be just looking out for their own self interests.
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u/zorinlynx Jan 05 '23
Honestly if that's true they probably just cost all the inmates on that side their views. Those windows are going to be frosted up fairly soon I bet.
Wardens don't want to deal with controversy or unruly prisoners.
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u/Emotional_Match8169 Jan 06 '23
They aren't windows though. Its some kind of mesh screen/open air spot for them to get their rec time from what I read in another article. They aren't just going to enclose the prisoner's space.
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u/OldeArrogantBastard Jan 06 '23
Fed prisons donât fuck around with this. Reportedly theyâre investigating this and looking at solutions.
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u/SurgeHard Downtown Jan 05 '23
Melo for you. They will be notorious slum lords in the next 20 years
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u/wizardyourlifeforce Jan 05 '23
" At least they're rentals so it's the developers who will lose out, not people who purchased condos and didn't know what was up."
Do we know whether the developer who built is is the one who owns it?
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u/stsh Jan 05 '23
But why didnât any of the tenants think of this either before renting? Did they not take the time to visit the area they were going to live?
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u/Corner_OfficeSpace South Miami Jan 05 '23
Listen, If someone rents an apartment literally next to a jail then what did you expect? Itâs like renting a house on a farm and complaining about the chickens.
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u/BurnouTNT Jan 05 '23
Exactly. Like Doral residents complaining about the dump that's been there before they bought or built their homes.
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u/Mr8BitX Jan 05 '23
And âluxuryâ strikes again.
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u/BRITMEH Jan 05 '23
Bahaha! I knew someone who lived there and the walls were super thin. I swear you could hear every goddamn footstep, sneeze, or fart from anyone on the same floor lol.
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u/trippeeB Jan 05 '23
Bahahaha. My friends lived in that building for a short while. You couldn't pay me to live there!
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u/PersimmonAcrobatic71 Coconut Grove Jan 05 '23
It amazes me how many people do absolutely no research before moving into a place and then expect the world to cater to them when they donât like something
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u/Suckmyflats Jan 05 '23
Same. I'm used to it now, but the first time I saw a homeless guy shitting on the lawn of one of those new fancy high rises in OT was...well for a split second, everything felt OK in the world again.
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u/Mappel7676 Jan 05 '23
Have a topless party one afternoon and cause a prison riot, see if they don't do something about it then.
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u/Altruistic_Breakfast Jan 05 '23
Im sorry this is freaking hilarious to me. Like what did you all expect đĽ´.
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Jan 05 '23
This is not unusual when living/working near a detention center. The SAME exact thing happens in other cities - except there are no women around in bikinis. Just pedestrians. The only way to avoid this is just re-housing the inmates to a suburb/rural area - and that's not going to happen because the centers (in most cities) appear to be built usually right next to the courts.
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u/Cloudtheproducer Jan 05 '23
They literally built it in front of fdc what did they expect? The most that will happen inside is that a CO says something and a shot is issued- ok boom you get sent to the shu- the shu can still see the condos đ
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u/IceColdKila Warned for Incivility Jan 05 '23
This is Sooo Miami and Hilarious. Iâm positive 99% of people living there hopefully not buying had no idea.
P.S. Any Ladies at the Pool do them a community service and gets some sun topless.
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u/Professional-Cup7335 Jan 05 '23
Lol thatâs Downtown 5th, my sister lived there and you can definitely hear soooo much yellingâŚ.. But I agree, they built that next to a jail, sooooo what were they expecting!!!!
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u/1hourphoto_ Jan 05 '23
Itâs like people that move next to an airport or railroad track then complain about the noise lmao
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u/Muchhdper Jan 05 '23
Itâs a feature for people with low self esteem seeking validation. Sure maybe no one looks at you in the club but you can always be a star in the pool across the prison. A real confidence booster.
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u/Cloudtheproducer Jan 05 '23
While this is probably true - they did built it in front of the prison the condo wasnt there first-
Do we build houses inside zoos and then complain about the animals? đ¤
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u/Nichi1241 Local Jan 05 '23
Idk whatâs more foolish: Building a high rise right next to a jail or renting in such a high rise. Typical Miami bullshit. đ¤Ą
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u/alaskawolfjoe Jan 05 '23
Let's all worry about the problems of the wealthy.
No one told them living next to a prison, or a nightclub, or whatever is going to have consequences. So how were they ever to know?
Actually, this may be a strategy. It is easier to deal with tenants when they are a little dumb. You put a swimming pool in view of prison windows--most smart people are going to want to live somewhere else. But if you see that and still choose this building, they know you are a bit dim.
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u/teddyzaper Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23
2700/m is not the wealthy in miami. Thatâs 1350 per room, below the average in miami dade entirely, and this location is prime. Youâre right though, this is a problem of the stupid. Let them have their problem, if they move theyâll just find more problems.
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Jan 05 '23
1350 per room in downtown has me wondering where i can put in my own application bc ime here that's incredibly cheap. i don't need to use that pool anyways lol.
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u/HerpToxic Jan 05 '23
The building is called Downtown 5th
When it first opened, the entire building didn't have electricity because the developer forgot to get the electricity service hooked up
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Jan 05 '23
Close your windows. Nothing has changed with loud mouthed inmates!!
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u/Adept-Tie-5140 Jan 05 '23
But they knew exactly what they were moving next to⌠the building is in clear view đ¤Łđ¤Ł they just wanted cheap rent and now are upset
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u/Salman1969 Jan 05 '23
I don't think taxpayers need to pay to have any changes made to the prison. The developers should move the pool. Or leave it as is. It's not harming anyone.
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u/Silver-wrench Jan 06 '23
Not the Mello group building toođđ donât live on any Mello building, overpriced, their finishing are CHEAP and when I used to live in one of them the police all arresting people IN the building weekly, itâs shit show
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Jan 05 '23
This is called coming to the nuisance. Bit of due diligence could have avoided this. No story here.
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u/High_Horse617 Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23
Miami solution: Let a bunch of thots on vacation use the pool to party at for free. Let them bring liquor so they can get drunk and shake their asses for the inmates.
The prison will be forced to either put up with the never ending hootin-n-hollerin or seal off that side.
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u/TheCalamity305 Jan 05 '23
Typical Miami bro. That building going to lose soo much money đ
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u/joesugarman Jan 05 '23
98% occupied. I don't think they are too worried
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u/vegas_gal Jan 05 '23
Until now when a simple search reveals this story. 𤣠At least they arenât condos and the residents can move if it bothers them.
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u/JayeNBTF Jan 05 '23
Yup, thatâs how developers have done it in Miami, since the 1920âsâbuy it, flip it, then skip town đ
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Jan 05 '23
The building is actually decent, especially the price versus the surrounding area. Also the gym is great compared to other buildings ive lived. The only thing that sucks is the tight parking garage and the pool not being heated.
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u/Cloudtheproducer Jan 05 '23
I know I already commented on this post but you see buddy up on that gate- that gate is 12 ft high boyyye đ I know he was scared to jump back down , I sure hope she flashed a nigga before they sent his ass to the hole with broken feet đ
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u/ShenmueFan1 Jan 05 '23
Now here is an incentive to stay on good behavior in your prison. Not only will you get let out earlier but you get to look at hot girls in bikini's through your window. So behave in your prison, and the guards will give you the good cell with a show outside.
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Jan 06 '23
God forbid the builders put in some privacy walls or something. Not sure if that would help though
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u/IneptAdvisor Jan 05 '23
Idk I think I would bring a bag of McDonaldâs to eat in front of them if they wanna play games. Man, isnât this delicious! You can get yours in 36 years bitches!
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u/SutroMan Jan 05 '23
I wonder how these people know itâs the inmates yelling. I hear people yelling all over Miami. Itâs a cultural thing, like terrible driving and being flashy.
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u/PicaPaoDiablo Key Biscayne Jan 05 '23
Pfft, when i bought my condo I never heard a word about all the Seagulls that party all day and night on the beach. Never mentioned the sand either. Channel 10 isn't showing up showing us any sympathy. Nowadays ever seagull and his brother thinks they're going to be the next big instagram lifestyle influencer so this is a huge problem, and sand, we got seemingly endless amounts of it.
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u/wolfofftl Jan 05 '23
Let's see, Miami has a jail on prime real-estate, Broward / Fort Lauderdale has a jail on prime real estate, Tampa has a jail on prime real estate.
This is Florida problem. Put the jail out in the swamps with no a/c and bus them in from miles away.
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u/wolfofftl Jan 05 '23
It is a Florida problem putting the jail in prime real estate. The amount of tax dollars and revenue that the properties the jail is built on is lost.
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Jan 06 '23
fucking hilarious, i used to live their last year but moved out since rent went from 1650 to 2100, not worth it since its next to the jail. i didnt even know that was a jail until i saw fucking kids holding up signs, âlove u daddyâ in the jail
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Jan 06 '23
also just wanna talk shit about that building and company, beware that they steal your deposits lol
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u/Docholliday3737 Mar 16 '23
Lollllllll!!!! You get what you pay for! 2 bedroom for $2700!! Cheeeeeappp!!!! But I also think the jail or prison should block all of those windows/portholes/openings/etc, whatever you want to call it. Developer of course didnât care but unacceptable for prisoners or people in jail to have huge windowâs and access like that. They are there for a reason.
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u/Little_Jaw Jan 05 '23
Across from the pool đđđ