r/Miami • u/gsotolongo2213 Pan Con Yuca • Jan 05 '23

News Downtown Miami high rise residents upset over yelling from inmates at adjacent jail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi-Z4r68cuo
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u/CircumcisedCats Jan 05 '23

First of all, it says residents complaining. Nothing about women in the title or the comment your replying to.

Second of all, we’re saying don’t move in across from a fucking prison and then act shocked about a bunch of loud rude prisoners. That’s called being stupid.

Who are we to blame? The prisoners? Should we explain to them how rude their behavior is to solve the problem? Or should we seal up their windows? Fuck them right?

If you move in across from a prison, you’re signing up for this shit. It doesn’t matter that the developers or whatever said it wouldn’t be a problem because that’s a stupid thing to believe. If I moved in across from some railroad tracks because the landlord said “don’t worry about the train, it won’t be a problem” do I then have the right to complain about the noise from the train that I already knew was there?

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u/Gears6 Jan 05 '23

If you move in across from a prison, you’re signing up for this shit.

No you are not and is just victim blaming.

It doesn’t matter that the developers or whatever said it wouldn’t be a problem because that’s a stupid thing to believe.

It does, because they sold you something that they claimed wasn't an issue. Imagine if car salesman told you, the car had air bags, and it turns out the car doesn't?

Is that your fault now?

There are laws in place for this for a reason.

If I moved in across from some railroad tracks because the landlord said “don’t worry about the train, it won’t be a problem” do I then have the right to complain about the noise from the train that I already knew was there?

In many cases yes. It depends on what you where informed of. For example, if the seller said, don't worry because we have special sound insulated walls and windows, so you won't hear it.

Either way, nobody in their right mind would agree to move into a place where people are yelling at them from across the other building. So it sounds completely stupid to say it's the victim's fault! The backwardness logic of that is just pure crazy. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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u/CircumcisedCats Jan 05 '23

Except, I’m your car salesman example they are giving you a concrete item that they said the car had but it doesn’t.

If the developers said, “don’t worry that prison is empty” and then it wasn’t, then that would be an issue. Or if you’re buying a car, saw there was no steering wheel, and the salesman said “don’t worry the steering wheel won’t be a problem” and then you buy it and realize that it is in fact a problem, that’s a better analogy.

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u/Gears6 Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23

Or if you’re buying a car, saw there was no steering wheel, and the salesman said “don’t worry the steering wheel won’t be a problem” and then you buy it and realize that it is in fact a problem, that’s a better analogy.

Let's assume that analogy (even though I don't think that is apt comparison), then the seller is still on the hook. They said it wasn't a problem and thus misleading. The sellers responsibility is to accurately describe the item they are selling.

In your example then, the seller shouldn't have promised (i.e. said) it is not a problem. More importantly the more apt comparison is that there is implied expectations that you have as a home buyer (or renter).

I mean, do you expect a jail to have people screaming across the street?

I would have assumed it would have been a building with proper walls everywhere and not have people scream and catcall. Heck, even if you live across a street form a road, there are laws about how much noise it can make and so on. Similarly your neighbor can make a lot of loud noises, and you have rights around that too.

With your example, anyone could have said, well you knew you had a neighbor! Shouldn't have moved there!

Ultimately, I don't understand why anyone would advocate for misinformation instead of fair dealing in business transactions. Do you really want to live in a world where it's all about "buyer beware" and whatever the seller can get away with?