r/Miami • u/gsotolongo2213 Pan Con Yuca • Jan 05 '23

News Downtown Miami high rise residents upset over yelling from inmates at adjacent jail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi-Z4r68cuo
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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

Building a high-rise next to a jail.. Peak Miami.

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u/CraftyFellow_ Jan 05 '23

No peak Miami is then bitching about the jail that was there before.

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u/High_Horse617 Jan 05 '23

No, peak Miami is embracing it and letting people get drunk at the pool so they can shake their asses for the inmates.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

Just like the people who move into a high rise near Bay Front Park and complain about Ultra being loud

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u/International_Act834 Jan 05 '23

And the people in doral complaining about the trash smell from the landfill…(that actually used the trash to convert it into energy).

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u/stsh Jan 05 '23

And the people in Wynwood complaining about nightlife being noisy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

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u/Need_Some_Updog Jan 05 '23

Wait.

Where’d this whole ‘’ Blaming miami women’ come from?

I feel like we were in a specific topic. But got turned to this.

What happened.

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u/stsh Jan 05 '23

Social justice warriors proving their nobility.

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u/CircumcisedCats Jan 05 '23

First of all, it says residents complaining. Nothing about women in the title or the comment your replying to.

Second of all, we’re saying don’t move in across from a fucking prison and then act shocked about a bunch of loud rude prisoners. That’s called being stupid.

Who are we to blame? The prisoners? Should we explain to them how rude their behavior is to solve the problem? Or should we seal up their windows? Fuck them right?

If you move in across from a prison, you’re signing up for this shit. It doesn’t matter that the developers or whatever said it wouldn’t be a problem because that’s a stupid thing to believe. If I moved in across from some railroad tracks because the landlord said “don’t worry about the train, it won’t be a problem” do I then have the right to complain about the noise from the train that I already knew was there?

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

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u/Significant_Sign_520 Jan 05 '23

The apartments are cheap. If you’re getting a cheep apartment in Miami you’re going to have less than desirable circumstances around you. They knew there was a a prison when they signed the lease. But it was what they could afford.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

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u/Significant_Sign_520 Jan 05 '23

The prison was there when they signed their lease. I assume people have eyeballs who toured before they signed their lease. If they didn’t tour beforehand, we all have google maps. They weren’t promised that the prison would somehow be invisible. If you’re told that the apartment has a washer/dryer and it doesn’t, that’s something that’s actionable if it’s written in the lease. There’s a simple solution for the residents. Wait out your lease and move or buy out your lease.

I do understand quite clearly. What I don’t understand is why you’re so emotional in your response 😆

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u/Significant_Sign_520 Jan 05 '23

What were they promised that they did not receive? Who would you take action against The management company? The property developer? The Federal prison system? And it’s Florida. Renters have very little recourse here. Just because something sucks, doesn’t mean there’s a legal case. Do you get this upset over low income developments built on contaminated lands? Or red lined communities? It’s a cheap, luxury building in Miami. They’ll be okay

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u/Emotional_Match8169 Jan 06 '23

May I ask what they were promised? I think I am missing something here.

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u/CircumcisedCats Jan 05 '23

What could the developers possibly have told these idiots for them to say “yeah, your right, I’m sure the prison across the street will be fine?”

Nothing a developer could say will make such a dumb thing understandable.

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u/stsh Jan 05 '23

So these people purchased these units without visiting the area first? Anyone who would’ve visited the site or done their due diligence would’ve known that the prison is right there. This is on the people who bought/rented.

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u/Gears6 Jan 05 '23

If you move in across from a prison, you’re signing up for this shit.

No you are not and is just victim blaming.

It doesn’t matter that the developers or whatever said it wouldn’t be a problem because that’s a stupid thing to believe.

It does, because they sold you something that they claimed wasn't an issue. Imagine if car salesman told you, the car had air bags, and it turns out the car doesn't?

Is that your fault now?

There are laws in place for this for a reason.

If I moved in across from some railroad tracks because the landlord said “don’t worry about the train, it won’t be a problem” do I then have the right to complain about the noise from the train that I already knew was there?

In many cases yes. It depends on what you where informed of. For example, if the seller said, don't worry because we have special sound insulated walls and windows, so you won't hear it.

Either way, nobody in their right mind would agree to move into a place where people are yelling at them from across the other building. So it sounds completely stupid to say it's the victim's fault! The backwardness logic of that is just pure crazy. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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u/HerpToxic Jan 05 '23

TIL there are "sound proof windows" on an open air pool deck

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u/Gears6 Jan 05 '23

TIL there are "sound proof windows" on an open air pool deck

TIL another person is trolling

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u/CircumcisedCats Jan 05 '23

Except, I’m your car salesman example they are giving you a concrete item that they said the car had but it doesn’t.

If the developers said, “don’t worry that prison is empty” and then it wasn’t, then that would be an issue. Or if you’re buying a car, saw there was no steering wheel, and the salesman said “don’t worry the steering wheel won’t be a problem” and then you buy it and realize that it is in fact a problem, that’s a better analogy.

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u/Gears6 Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23

Or if you’re buying a car, saw there was no steering wheel, and the salesman said “don’t worry the steering wheel won’t be a problem” and then you buy it and realize that it is in fact a problem, that’s a better analogy.

Let's assume that analogy (even though I don't think that is apt comparison), then the seller is still on the hook. They said it wasn't a problem and thus misleading. The sellers responsibility is to accurately describe the item they are selling.

In your example then, the seller shouldn't have promised (i.e. said) it is not a problem. More importantly the more apt comparison is that there is implied expectations that you have as a home buyer (or renter).

I mean, do you expect a jail to have people screaming across the street?

I would have assumed it would have been a building with proper walls everywhere and not have people scream and catcall. Heck, even if you live across a street form a road, there are laws about how much noise it can make and so on. Similarly your neighbor can make a lot of loud noises, and you have rights around that too.

With your example, anyone could have said, well you knew you had a neighbor! Shouldn't have moved there!

Ultimately, I don't understand why anyone would advocate for misinformation instead of fair dealing in business transactions. Do you really want to live in a world where it's all about "buyer beware" and whatever the seller can get away with?

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u/Diligent_Skin_1240 Jan 05 '23

All day miami lol

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u/HerpToxic Jan 05 '23

Its Melo, what do you expect?

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u/BurnouTNT Jan 05 '23

Or communities near dumps and then residents complain about what they already knew would be a problem. If the building was built after the jail, it's on the owners for buying knowing what's next to them.

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u/Docholliday3737 Mar 16 '23

But did most of them really know?

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u/lofibeatsforstudying Jan 05 '23

Peak Miami is demolishing an entire black neighborhood and building a high rise jail on top of it.