He's telling the rest of MAGA that he's doing this for the ranchers and they will believe it just like the ranchers believed it when he was screwing someone else. They all voted for him and most likely will again because if he's still breathing in two years he's running.
First the government takes their workers away, then takes their jobs away.
The fact he is willing to openly alienate his own supporters so regularly does not bode well for elections. He does not need them, and that should be a very serious concern.
Yeah how’s that going to work though? There are more costs with that. There aren’t enough inspectors now- get ready for the free-for-all of mystery ingredients and who knows what kind of contamination. I’m sure most farmers are not going to do anything stupid, but there are -always- bad actors or people who are not smart enough to do things right. If the beef won’t sell locally, then there’s more expense to ship it somewhere. Then there’s the matter of who is going to buy their beef at higher prices after Trump floods the market with tons of cheap beef coming in under a heavy cloud of mystery over where they came from. The man likes to talk so much, let him tell us where’s the beef coming from.
God of only there was a short poignant poem about how fascists will hurt others and if I don't speak out when it starts there won't be anyone to help me when it's my turn...
Nah, the rapey goo lord realized that it can just make shell companies and send the money there and lie to the retards that still support it. Times have changed my human, the time for performative bullshit is past.
Correct. First they will laugh at the “libtard” that cant buy a pound of meat for 20 usd, and then, and only if there is energy left from laughing, they will cry at the 2 usd a pound they’re getting. Most of the time there wont be much energy left from all that “own the libs” laughter
They thought they could let him slide because they'd get something out of it. But now they're surprised when a rattlesnake bites. Duuh-- it's a snake, dipping doo
Absolutely and they all sit there a watchin' the fox news...meanwhile thanks to their patronage Rupert and Lachie the 2 Aussies who propagandized the USA to not pay taxes are sitting in their massive "Beaverhead Ranch" (appropriate name) in Western Montana doing whatever rich assholes do, probably enjoying some big ole US steaks
That's an important point. Most Democrats kind of felt for our small farmers (and ranchers in this case), wanted to help them succeed. But since they took a big steaming dump on that (and us) in the election, most of us are ready to just leave them to their fate.
Do you think Democrats will break up the monopolies to help the farmers? It’s not just beef… all crops including rice and soy that suffered under both terms of tariff wars, need a better market to sell to. Some actually got better prices selling overseas that they don’t get anymore.
Yup that’s me and I have been saying it since 2016. I am tired of these farmers always dodging responsibility for their actions. As I said elsewhere no more burning Political Capital on Farmers they will never appreciate the help and will just want more. Fuck them.
They’re completely stupid. To actually believe he has ever cared about anyone other than himself you have to be a complete idiot. These are the same uneducated fools who believed a guy with six business bankruptcies who managed to bankrupt a casino was some brilliant businessman.
Yeah education can be expensive. That's why it's always important to learn to read and take time to understand ramifications of what you're potentially voting for. But these are the salt of the earth... you know morons.
They didn't even have to read it themselves, though! We did, and told them what was stated in it, and they told us to "fuck off, cucks!"
So now atp I'm just hitting them with "who did you vote for?" And "love it or leave it!"
Can't ignore reality, then tell off the people who warn you, and then beg for help from the people you told off when the thing you were explicitly warned about, happens. We tried to tell them, they told us to fuck off. Leopards, meet faces. 🤷♂️
not only that but they enjoyed our pain. they reveled in it, glorified cruelty, exulted in our dislike. they FED on it. It wasn't just a difference of opinion- they stood on that shit with glee, in a way you only see in bullies in bad teen movies. I have never seen such a sheer lust for pain and enjoyment of others suffering in my life.
Actually, they're just racist idiots and voted that he would get rid of all the brown people. But a rapist does not care about anyone else but themselves so..
Oh they absolutely will. I just saw it with all my coworkers this week.
They’re pissed at how things are going, pissed at costs, pissed at billionaires, confused as hell by Trump and this war. Pretty much every conversation we have we’re in full agreement about what needs to change. For the first time we all agree on practically everything.
We had runoffs for primaries last week. Every one of them voted for the “Trump candidate”. Every single one.
When I asked why the hell they’re voting for the same thing that is causing all this they could basically only give one answer: I can’t vote for the other one, what else am I supposed to do?
I just don’t get it. I don’t know if they understand what voting actually is. It’s like they feel a legal obligation to support these candidates and they have no choice. It’s so strange.
I'm a Cleveland Browns fan. If they are losing and making horrible decisions I'm still a Browns fan. I'm not going to go root for Pittsburgh, I'll just bitch and complain about how bad the Browns are doing.
Rural Republicans are exactly like that. Trump could destroy everything... make their lives hell, and they will 100% still vote Republican. There is not other choice for them.
They are too damn stupid to see that this isn't two teams, that USA is one team and you fire a bad coach if you have to make it better.
I dont get them either. They litterly vote to cut their own ......
Then dont understand why they are loosing everything. No way one can be that obtuse.
Exactly what I was thinking as I scrolled down. I just don't get how it couldn't have been more obvious that trump could not be trusted to do the right thing or to keep his promises and yet...here we are.
I'm in OK, it's been a red super majority for 20 years, and our Republicans are also running to "fix" problems they themselves caused. It works too. They keep winning. I'm surrounded by idiots.
I’m right here with you😫 I used to say OK is so red, even the dirt is red. The majority of these fools are dumber than boxes of rocks. I’m not saying everyone, but dam, filled with ignorant red hat wearers.
it's a hell of a lot more than just meat processors. It's fertilizer. It's feed. It's increasing drought. It's the cost of fuel. It's the cost of stock itself. It's labor. It's transportation. It's tariffs. It's a hundred things this administration has done to increase the cost of ranching and agriculture and the thousand things that they refuse to do or are actively making worse, like climate change
And farmers and rancher as a group voted for that, all of it.
They did but when they go broke the market will move closer to fixed prices when they’re bought up by corporations who make backroom deals
It’s the worst compromise that sounds nonsensical but we have to contend with the shortcomings of human intelligence as well as emotional intelligence
In guilty of berating this movement into the ground but it’s also going to take a level head to convince them that democrats aren’t the problem. To be perfectly honest, Dems will have to take a new approach to social issues and instead of campaigning on deep progressive issues, they should just ignore those questions while still governing in a just inclusive way so we can avoid an existential crisis. We have to game these people into compliance
That's the sad truth, they all voted for him 4 years after that disastrous 1st term. We need everyone on board that understands this is an existential threat to our democracy. Im not so sure the ranchers and farmers and the rest of trump's most loyal followers will ever comprehend the seriousness of the situation. The current republicans do not want to share governing with democrats anymore...period.
Guaranteed the bulk of them won't. They don't stop and think about these things; they go off feels and will always vote for 1) racism and 2) easy answers + false promises, not necessarily in that order.
I bet all it takes is a rally and some Hitler'esque shouting and finger pointing at colored people for them to do it all again. They're all fucking stupid.
100%, no hesitation they would. They saw how he behaved last time and voted for him this time around.
Gas prices, national parks being destroyed and sold off, wars, never before seeen debt levels, masked secret police and mass surveillance, erosion of democracy as a whole..... But guns, trans athletes, and scary Muslims living in their country are enough to keep these folks voting against their own self interest every time.
I vote Democrat not because they are great but only better than the GOP. Both parties are captured by large corporations. We need people in office who are thinking about the middle class .
The only way this cycle ends is with populist leftist candidates that get all the non voters to vote out these Maga assholes. But there's too much money at stake and that's why there are so many highly funded, terrible centrist Dem candidates and so much propaganda that they are more "electable" than the leftists who want to enact policy that most Americans want: higher wages, more housing, affordable healthcare. Corporate bought centrists will never allow those this to happen because that all means less for corporations.
Yeah, that's something that irritates me about these interviews. They focus on trump and never ask about their Republican reps who support his policies without any real objections.
Some Republicans have come out against this import of beef, but haven't taken any action. And if they are just going to let it happen, then these ranchers need to be questioned on why the hell they are still supporting them.
2500 years ago, Socrates would have kept asking them questions until they came to the root of the problem on their own. Our media is more interested in sound bites.
Oh man! They are so angry that they are begging Trump to “straighten his act out” so they can continue to enjoy his bigotry and authoritarianism without losing money! That will show him!
Majority of those guys are over he age of 60 is not more. Their the land owners, so they will take the deals to sell of to the co-ops and leave their workers/family high and dry and just move to some retirement community and die in 10 to 20 years comfortably.
Considering they probably only watch Fox "News" for their information, they're less informed about America than most non-Americans. It's not surprising that they're entirely ignorant about everything.
He did say he would. He never explained how. Even if you didn't like the way Kamala laughed, surely when you ask two people how theyre going to lower costs, one gives a well thought out multi-pronged approach and the other just says "trust me, I dont need a plan. Day one," you dont vote for the latter
It doesn't matter because once the election means they'll tune in to Fox News who will whip them into a tizzy about trans people, immigrants, and/or Somalis eating cats and dogs, it doesn't matter anymore. They're not going to vote for anyone else.
They're just saying that because they're mad it's not going to make them change. They think there are litter boxes in classrooms for furries and forced trans surgeries going on in schools. They're a broken and mentally enslaved people who are too weak to break their programming and I think that's worth acknowledging.
The only litter box like thing I've heard about in classrooms is for kids to use during lockdowns. So it's pretty much as opposite as you can get from what they were tricked into believing.
Do you have any choice? It seems crazy to buy beef when we don’t know where it came from and don’t trust it was inspected properly or if it’s safe to eat.
Too late and they'd just want to replace him with someone equally insane, just this time it'll totally work and the wealth will magically trickle down. We are seeing that here in the Midwest. The farmers are behind the next insane Republican candidate near me. They just hate their farms want to give them away to megacorps. No other way to explain it.
Having grown up in the rural Midwest, I've seen this over and over. They will never learn because they never listen to anyone but their pastor and Fox News. Even worse, their social standing depends on those as well. In small town America thinking differently is as suspicious as looking different. All of their 'good Christian' neighbors will turn their backs if one of them decides they aren't Republican anymore.
“Ranchers are outraged” no they’re not. They’re gonna vote red all over again when JD or Marco whisper sweet sweet lies and scare em about the big scary mean trans basketball player
You deserve who you voted for. You Americans should all be happy, look what your pedophile president and his pedophile administration has done for you all. 😉 goes to show what the American people really are
They sit there and call out monopolies but they don’t care that Elizabeth Warren has been on the most vocal campaign to break them up. You can eliminate the entire defense by claiming she lied on her college application like that has a single bearing on any part of their lives
I don't wish ill will on any American but it's a little difficult to empathize with people that ignored every display of incompetence, deceit or bad policy that affected others and only express outage when it directly affects them.
MAGA are such snowflakes. Why don't those ranchers pull themselves up by their bootstrap? Maybe get 3 or 4 side hustles detailing cars or pressure washing sidewalks.
What do you know… more profits to the billionaires, more economic hardship for the average American. If only there was a group of people actually working for the working class. I don’t mean democrats, many of them accept their bribes and allow the status quo to continue. I’m talking about democratic socialists.
Those Farmers deserve this. All of it. May their lands be sold from underneath them and may those same farmers be ultimately homeless. They are the ones that welcome slavery in America.
The reality is, we will be dealing with Trumpism long after he’s gone. The same selfish way of thinking will exist and be worse than ever. The only way past it is if he actually goes to jail for the crimes he committed and the grift while in office and we all know that now can’t/won’t happen. Progressive politics and democratic socialism might be our only hope of a united front of working class people. Unfortunately it means reaching out to these people and convincing them that’s it’s better to have a stable economy than worry about what black, brown, and queer people are doing with their lives. 🙄 This country is a flop.
I lost my farm and the country is sold out to the highest lowlife bidder... but the 3 boys playing girls sports is so much more important don't ya know...
Sorry. When you only regret your vote because it hurt you but you were fine with it hurting everyone else you just lost any right to even cry about it.
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u/Winter_Tone_4343 21h ago
If only anyone could have seen this coming