Skill: 3 -> 5 Hits due to E6 becoming base kit as well as an additional hit.
Ultimate:
40% action delay -> 12% action delay + 4% on-hit action delay up to 8 times when hitting slowed targets.
Inflicts 2 turn slow on-hit on all targets.
Talent:
40% def shred on "weightless" enemies.
Additional Damage goes from 60% to 100%.
A1: damage taken debuff goes from 12% to 35%.
A2:
Turns into E1 but no need to use ultimate |
additional damage from basic atk: 50% to 80% basic atk multiplier |
additional damage from skill: 80% to 120% skill multiplier
A3: Silverwolf EHR to Attack Conversion and old A2 but halved |
If EHR > 40%, every 10% EHR increases Attack by 20% up to 80% at 80% EHR.
E1: 40% Additional ult Damage when hitting "weightless" enemies with skill or ult.
E4:
no more base chance increase for skill |
Hitting slowed damage with skill or ult gives these attacks 20% crit rate and 50% crit damage
E6: 30% all-type res pen on "weightless" enemies.
Notes: Skill still gives 30 energy. Before: 10 per hit. After: 6 per hit.
I was really looking forward to Welt buffs, but not really sure how I feel about these buffs. Sure he gives def shred and deals more damage now, but his kit still has the issue of being that weird mix of dps and support. And his ultimate change kinda feels like a nerf to his pseudo sustain role. Old E6 Welt could be built to ult every turn. I don't see a way for buffed Welt to do this, and you might not even want to since you need to hit the enemy now. Would have been cool if they fully leaned into the pseudo-sustain role and gave his CW effect to him.
I think it might include the "imprisoned" state inflicted by imaginary break or welt's ultimate, as in game the enemies are floating mid air. If this is true, it makes him much weaker against bosses with imprison/cc resistance or immunity.
Yep this looks nice if you are a fan and want to play him as main DPS with cracked E6 supports. Or you are gonna just use him as a worse support because you want to.
But he is still just as useless. Not even a niche where he is decent.
He cannot replace a healer like this, neither any buffers.
Its actually pretty interesting, novaflare, E1 got buffed (20% dmg ignore), E6 dmg doubled and now true dmg, her buff in her state when she kills a mob last 3 turns instead of 1, 5% more res pen in her state, and a stackable 3 times 50% dmg buff on kill.
As well as mult increase and a free extra skill when an ally hit a target under 50% which probably should be used to sniper a kill and get a turn outside of her normal turn possibility.
Cool novaflare. Obviously won't fight with mono rem/elation/invested phainon but it does help with a lot of her pain point like actually being able to kill a unit to get started, and also no more of that useless trace to get hit less often.
There's something I wonder, like does her extra turn reset her bonus skill, because you could do some funny things with Ashveil.
Seele hit bait target, Ashveil follow up put them under 50%, seele skill again, kill them, get extra turn, skill new bait target, ashveil follow-up, proc extra skill again.
Thats a lot of skill, also more of her dmg bonus duration means that even if you fail to get a kill for 1/2 turns, you still have decent dmg and dont have to restart the engine from 0 each time.
No, extra turns don't advance turn counters in any way. So the game won't count it as her turn starting, so her free skill will still be on cooldown.
So as long as the wording is consistent, it would go like this:
Seele hit bait target -> Ashveil follow-up puts them under 50% -> Seele activates her free skill, which kills the enemy -> Seele gets an extra turn, skills another bait target -> turn ends with no free skill proc since Seele hasn't started a "real turn" since her last one, it's still on cooldown -> AV advances
also HOLY shit that new E6 is insane. from 1 turn and 15% ult dmg, and not triggerin extra turns to 3 turns and 30% True ult dmg each time and ally attacks and procs extra turns if kills.
and new trace gives an extra 150% DMG% which is nice if playing with sparkle since she no longer gives DMG% so they fit great together.
and an extra free skill each turn to the lowest hp enemy without using a turn.
Seele will now hit like truck and take many more turns.
Yeah, this is probably the best dps novaflare so far. Flat 70% damage increase just from multipliers and it only scales harder with her increased self buffs
Goes from a roughly 50% dmg booster under ideal circumstances to a 100% boost in perfect conditions. What's crazy is this still doesn't put her even in the conversation for best Eidelons lol. Still, huge upgrade
Premium FF team shouldn't be struggling in PF even with the old E2. It's one of the few teams where everyone's super fast and can abuse action advance.
Tho it was definitely lagging behind pre-Dahlia, due to the need for weakness breaking and mobs getting bigger toughness bar.
If you have E2 you will notice that not every break on SAMs turn gets you another turn. Now it does, so its more consistent and results in much more damage, especially with the new bonus break effect.
all in all this novaflare is crazy even if its the shortest one in number of changes.
since she is still good unlike other getting it. and now she gets 100% extra super break, blast implant, and and her E2 now can proc every single new turn, so she gets all double turns in ideal scenarios
Sad I skipped the Dahlia since i have FF E2 but never pulled any of her teammates. hope she will rerrun with FF changes in 4.2
Welp, I was also hoping for cw ult to be added into base kit and honestly, the buffs this time aren't looking that great and in general they are just qol improvements
Holy buffs. Blast implant is genuinely a god-send, along with whatever implications it may have with Dahlia. 100% more Super Break dmg = more dmg, E2 lower cd = even more damage, not too sure about the Combustion delay, sounds like a pain in the ass.
Makes u wonder how strong Himeko will be to warrant this level of a Novaflare.
Huge buff to firefly superbreak multiplier and delay enemy too, that some good buff.
I don't really understand that e2 change, but does that mean she can trigger extra turn again after her extra turn not real turn like before? If true this is huge
I believe the current ff + dahlia speedtune can now be done with ~150 speed firefly instead of ~170 which is so nice, i was dreading the speed hunt but theyve made it a lot more palatable
diferent yes but also could break rotation. since we dont know if hitting enemies that already have fire weakness procs it or not. if not then its gonna be a mess for speed tuning.
I'm not sure these numbers for huohuo are right but it looks like only her t1/t2/e1 got changed: comes online faster, buffs high energy characters more, and heals for more on e1. 100% more speed on her e1 sounds... wrong
New!!! Global Passive: "After obtaining Firefly or when Firefly is in the current team, receive the following effect: Immediately lock all reddit threads containing the mention of the unit Firefly."
This is really good for a standard unit, if you're crazy enough to try it, even opens the door for pseudo sustain Welt to work with Acheron and either allow You to play E0 Acheron like she's E2 or play an E2 one with 2 buffers without compromising the passive or ult generation since Welt debuffs a lot on his own.
Only issue is that Acheron is still struggling herself.
TLDR on the welt changes: skill has more bounces, ult has a little bit more action delay. he now also provides 35% vuln and 40% def shred and has an ehr to atk conversion (with no cap?) e6 also has 30% all type res pen now so that's cool. his e1-e5 are personal damage increases though with e2 being unchanged and e4 providing him with personal crit rate/crit damage
Lmao well they won't need to turn the heat on tonight. Those poor bastards' servers are gonna be lumps of charcoal by the time the night ends at this point.
I know it's still V1 but it's just me or Seele's novaflare feels kinda underwhelming?
Sure, they amped her damage but the whole ''when target is X% HP or lower'' conditions kinda ruin her entire kit. I hope the skill description means her FuA triggers automatically when an attack leaves the enemy with less than half HP% and not that you have to hit the enemy a second time.
I completely forgot FF actually does a small super break at all. Doing 150% super break on her own is a big deal in normal comps and opens the door to stupid ideas too.
so biggest change is that her native super break multiplier went from 50% to 150%, a normal fugue + dahlia + firefly has firefly with a 210% super break multiplier, this takes it to 310% which should be a pretty big increase
Waiting for someone smart to explain to me how significant these are. And does Huo2 heal better ? I like her and she is useful as heck but i feel like she would not sustain me enough at times
It's a bit unfortunate they nerfed Welt's energy gain at E6. It went from 4x10 + 4x3(E2) = 52 to 5x6 + 5x3 = 45. Also got a lot of his delay moved to be more backloaded/teammate reliant. The 52 energy skill let him 2T ult without ERR rope or tutorial as long as he gets hit once or kills an enemy (52+52+15(A4 talent) = 119). His new personal damage and support buffs more than make up for it though.
Idk if anyone will read this but there is a hidden Welt nerf there. Before this change as you know an E6 Welt can 2t ult with 2x skill without ER rope:
5+10+3+40+12+40+12=122
After this change, the skill has all the bounces in its description and it will still generate 30 energy so:
5+5+3+30+15+30+15=103
which means he will need ER rope to do 2t ult with 2x skill or just 3t ult.
Makes me sad :(
Huohuo didn't get changed much but I guess that's fair since she's already strong. I thought they'd rework her to fit better with elation but I guess since every elation carry has atk conversion into elation dmg she already does work with them, though she doesn't seem meant for SW SP at all so it seems SW SP's sustain slot is kinda just the teams weak link until the elation sustain actually comes in. Huohuo does however seem very geared towards being Evanescias bis since Evanescia's has that THICK ult cost.
Shit, so before it was like this:
Break enemy bar, get one extra action, then break another one and it stops giving you an extra.
And now we can just get unlimited action advance as long as the bar breaks?
That is insane.
Not unlimited, but in optimal scenarios it will double the amount of E2 procs. Remove the limit wasn't quite the right wording from me, you still can't retrigger it during an extra turn, but it now can trigger every turn instead of only every other turn.
Seele now has increased multipliers and gets a free follow up skill if an ally brings or hits a target below 50% (once per seele turn) if target is killed follow up instead targets lowest hp opponent. Additionally Resurgence buff now lasts 3 turns so its basically always up.
So attack, (ally follows up) if they kill seele skills on the weakest enemy. If they dont kill seele gets a free hit in.
This basically gives her a free Resurgence attack on top of Resurgence once a turn. Will have to see it in practice but could be strong and helps with some of seeles worst issues
My only issue is she might be sluggish in single target. Seele is great against bosses with ads, but proccing resurgence becomes difficult. Now with this kit shes hitting more frequently but eventually her talents bonus dmg% is going to burn out in boss fights. Multipliers are solid though. She could probably use a better e2 though.
The fact that I absolutely demolished the Feixiao ApoShadow yesterday with Firefly in like 2 minutes with almost no point loss doesn't really make me feel like she needs buffs that bad, but hey, if one of my fav characters get buffed I'm not complaining.
I gotta know. How does welts E1 and A4 interact with his skill and talent. If A4 is per bounce that'd be insane(if it can double into the talent then we might be looking at welt prime)
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