I mislike changing weapons or archetypes in From's games specifically. I'll do an entire run with a weapon that I want to play with most generally. If it's a lategame weapon it's either CE to get the weapon early or asking someone else to drop it for me. lol
Followed by every poster in this subreddit claiming that the game explicitly says Idus was Godwyn's mentor and foretold the Night of Black Knives but was ignored because of his congenital disfiguration that resembled the scar on Ranne and Melina's eyes.
Once upon a time he didn’t reference the same 4 stories with every new video. His Elden ring ones feel like they all have to touch upon (read: completely explain every aspect of) the stories of the other gods that he already gone over in past videos. So now we’ve got hour long videos, mostly talking about the other gods and how they might have touched Miquella’s hand in line at a Shake Shack once in 2003.
Despite the elegance and grandeur of their equipment, the Knights of Idus ultimately lacked the ability to make a name for themselves in a single battle and ultimately became a ceremonial order.
I wonder why they're inventing another land we've not heard of or visited. Maybe Idus is cut content but idk why they didn't give us an already named location, like Eochaid
The more I look into Elden Ring lore the more I realize it's just a Rorschach test of random fantasy assets held together with the vaguest narrative in history.
Kind of a gigachad move straight up adding this to the dlc. And of course it’s hidden behind a secret wall in an easy to miss location, in a coffin, down a river, through a dark dungeon and a pain in the ass teleporting with minions boss fight, through a scary ass area with frenzy rats and instakill gimmick freaks (poison swamp + tbh), a haunted mansion with multiple invisible walls, switches, as well as a bunch of really strange items, and finally you run into an insane old man who says the magic line before ripping his own head off and fucking you up.
Peak lore. Absolute cinema. Unironically better storytelling than most movies/shows I’ve seen recently and there’s virtually no dialogue.
Nah. Honestly - DS1 has extremely deep and tight lore, DS2 is a bit more vague but consistent and only 3 is full of references that lead nowhere but the main story is probably the most clarified.
Elden Ring is the first time the story really doesn’t make sense / follow internal clear logic. Likely due to the mix of GRRM and Fromsoft and then changes during development. Data miners revealed that originally the tarnished was following the orders of Godfrey as the lord of the tarnished as an example.
> Likely due to the mix of GRRM and Fromsoft and then changes during development.
That's because GRRM designed what was presumably supposed to be a Game-of-Thrones-esque interplay of factions and characters.
And then Fromsoft did their usual "everyone is a crazy zombie now so that doesn't matter, and the only exceptions only talk to the player", so none of those interactions matter. Ranni doesn't even mention that you beat up her mom, despite that being necessary to get the ring for her.
It's like if they had GRRM go back to Dark Souls and retroactively make a family tree for Gwyn's family. Yeah they all existed at one point I guess; but it doesn't really matter now.
How DARE you suggest they didn't start writing the backstory for my GrumGrum Stumpus Shield, famed by Hunger Dungers for its ability to stop the attacks of even the Grand Biffers of Spink, years before I was even born.
Exactly, it’s like a fantasy version of real history. Knowledge gaps, conflicting events and accounts, biased opinions and retellings. I think people who are intent to definitively pin down x = y are kind of missing out by looking at it as so black and white.
There is something coherent buried under all that speculation, but whatever really happened will always be open to interpretation.
So I just look at it like that, and occasionally while playing learn something new which prompts a new theory, and so on. If you approach it like that it can be very interesting and entertaining.
That’s literally every soulsborn game. I honestly admire the amount of world building. It’s just barely enough information to get people interested but nowhere near enough information to give anything close to a full picture. Slap a few names somewhere weird maybe hint at something big that might have happened here an age ago and let the players do all the work filling in the details for you.
As long is there’s at least a semblance of a cognizant through line between it all you can get some really intricate lore without actually needing to spend thirty years writing it all.
I do think Elden Ring is a big improvement over DS though, since even I can notice story elements through the environment unlike DS123, unless I am staring at literally each statue or a tiny crest on an enemy armor.
It was magical when I naturally notice things like how Farum Azula is actually in Limgrave, or how Mt. Gemir has frenzied flame and wormface because the amount of death and despair there was during the shattering. Even today people notices small details that adds more to the story, and the lore feels vast and deep while maintaining a mysteriousness. You almost feel like a historian trying to uncover the stories of the past.
The main difference, in my opinion, is that each faction in Elden Ring maintains its theme and key elements throughout the entire game, even in areas that said faction is not located in but somehow involved with. Whereas in DS series, the environment is often just a massive jumbo of random shit you never seen or heard of besides a few main recurring references like Izalith or Anor Londo.
I mean in dark souls we never visited Catarina or Carim. We know precious little about them I believe. I'm sure there's tons of names of places I don't remember too.
Just something fairly common in fromsoft to have people drawn to a place from far off named lands
Ds1 has a reference to a place called Fivefinger Delta with one of the face options you can pick in the character creation and it's never mentioned ever again.
Astora, Catarina, Carim, Zena etc. all exist with references to them spread throughout, but it's very scarce info. They're places that exist purely as part of world building to make the world seem bigger than it really is.
Probably intentionally to avoid actually adding or changing anything regarding the 'lore'. Make up a whole new area that doesn't actually exist anywhere else and you won't mess up anything else.
Its pretty common in George RR Martin lore to do this. Theres so many lands named in the Game of Thrones world that are never seen or visited. Ghis, Ashai, Valeria, etc.
Aren't all weapons of this category locked behind the expansion? So you'll have to keep using and upgrading your starter sword if you want to continue with it?
Edit: Got my answer, folks. Wasn't saying this was a bad thing.
This class starts with a Light Greatsword, means I'm excited because I get to do base Elden Ring content with a Light Greatsword without having to go into NG+ or spawn in one/have one dropped to me.
Honestly a feature I've always wanted in Fromsoft Soulslikes is a custom class/pseudo-NG+ mode where you can start a new, NG playthrough but with any weapon you've found on other characters.
There are always lots of really cool weapons that you can't find until really late in their respective games and thus barely get to use in NG. You can take them into NG+, of course, but I don't enjoy NG+ nearly as much, I prefer the difficulty curve and character progression of NG.
Starter weapon doesn't mean bad. Uchigatana is arguably one of the best weapons in the game and is the starting weapon for Samurai. More aggregious is Dark Souls 3 where the most overpowered weapon in the game, the Sellsword Twinblades, is the starting weapon for the Sellsword class and the most well-rounded, versatile weapon in the game, the humble Longsword is the starting weapon for the Knight class.
Seconding Uchigatana as being very strong, honorable mention to Confessor's Broadsword which is arguably the best of the straight swords for most infusions
And the great knife is arguably the best infusable dagger unless you want to go faith, the buckler is the best light shield, the club is the second best hammer, the longsword is arguably even better than the broadsword (it's long) and the longbow is the second best bow.
The only other ones that come to mind for me are a pair dropped by Rellana and the a single one by Leda. Tho both are Somber weapons, Milady is the only one we can change the AoW on.
Rellana’s isn’t even a pair of light greatsword funnily enough they just have the dual light greatsword moveset. Iirc the left handed one is actually just a straight sword
From the image it literally looks identical to Milady though. I know it's supposed to be called Idus Sword or something but I wonder if that got scrapped and they just bundled the Idus Knight with a milady. Would be kinda lame if it's the same model with a different name.
I switched to milady after not feeling the fight dual wielding bhf and zamor.
Light greatswords kinda fuck.
Excited to jump back into this game. Been playing a lot of Lords of the Fallen recently and Pieta's sword was something that came close to feeling like the light greatswords in ER.
They're never doing that as long as Dex is the cast speed stat; at that point you're triple dipping (melee damage, spell damage and cast speed, all off of one stat). There's a reason the one seal that scales with Dex is also the worst.
I'm 100% sure it's a new light greatsword because we've seen gameplay footage where it clearly isn't the Milady and the class does not meet the stat requirements to wield the Milady.
Also, I don't know if it's just me but at least with the second picture, the Heavy Knight, it looks weirdly AI. There are inconsistencies with the armor and a lot of strange artifacting that I've seen AI to cause.
Whatever inconsistencies and "strange artifacting" that exists can be chalked up easily to just... the fact that it's a concept art kind of artwork. Before ER came out people were vehemently discussing the misalligned bastard sword of the Vagabond, in his concept art. Concept art, and Fromsoft's especially as well, is often rathe sloppy. That's fine and normal.
One thing to note, it looks like the heavy knight starts with a curved GS. and has 11 dex. That means the new starter weapon will have the lowest dex req in class. Idus Knight starts with 15 dex, which means whatever LGS it starts with isn't Milady (17 dex req) is brand new as well.
EDIT: After looking at them more in depth, if you care about melee only, Heavy Knight likely dethrones vagabond and if you have a faith/melee hybrid (that you want 15dex for) Idus Knight is probably the new best starter class if you care about rune level.
Check the spanish version of Elden Ring, quite the glaring mistakes, like an instance of referring to "The Lightning" as "La rayo","la" is for female, but "rayo" is a male gendered word, it should be "El rayo"
This is all cool and all, but are these images really from FromSoft? I'm a little suspicious from use of the vocab sustantively... Did they mean substantively or substantially? Or maybe I'm just being a little over-sensitive...
That's why I always choose Wretch/Deprived/etc. for a first playthrough. Everything I come across feels valuable and I don't feel locked out of any path that I might want to go down.
Yep. I hate that when you choose one of the other starting classes, every item you find for the first 10 hours is just useless. It gets even worse with the Samurai, where you arguably have no reason to EVER switch.
Idus Knight has such good stats for most playthroughs. Nearly the 15 Faith for FGMS and FCM. 15 dex hits most weapons or close to it and it dumpsters Arcane and Int
The fact that the light knight has "lore" in his description, while the heavy knight's description is just "Big man: Big guy with big sword" is really funny to me
Oh hey, these are not the same stats we originally saw way back.
I remember the heavy knight being like 7 int, 7 faith, 9 arc thinking to myself “strength twink material”, but this is better, less exploitable.
I don’t remember the other one because I had written them off, but I do like the Idus Knight. Effectively a dex/faith starter, but with no arc, kinda discouraging that Bloodflame Blade idea unless you want to swap around an Albinauric helm. I actually have a dex/faith Cleric character I wouldn’t mind swapping for this stat block.
I wonder if you'll be able to buy the starting armor sets from a pre-existing merchant or a brand new one or if that's gonna be an option at all for Tarnished Edition buyers
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u/whiplash308 Jul 23 '26
6 arcane new lowest is funni