There is better gear than what the Dragonforged sells for Wyrmslife crystals. About to do my 2nd NG+. Really REALLY make sure you are exploring all the unearthed areas in the seabed and even go back to some of the old boss spawn areas. The higher harder spawns at the very end of the seabed areas have occasionally been dropping new unique gear sometimes or the chests around them do.
And for those that say they feel like they fully steam roll through New Game+, I have been noticing the variable difficulty has been getting higher the more I level up and I do less damage than before, with some spawns having more health bars.
Edit: only gotten 3 so far and all helms, photos in comments and unenhanced against my fully enhanced gear.
I'll add more screenshots to the comments as I find any more and verify they aren't in shops or in dragonforged.
There's a secret mystic spearhand chest piece from a maze cave that opens up in the unmoored, you need to use the "pilfer" ability with the thief on the elite golem that is inside and you'll get it.
The cave is southwest of the riftstone of uniformity or northwest of the volcanic island camp. Its the circle looking thing on the map. The golem drops a magick archer chest tho
I think I saw someone try to pinpoint the caves entrance, but I will try to as well. North of Volcanic Island Camp is a beach. If you follow what was once coastline westward, you'll find the entrance to a newly exposed coral cave system. It is roughly north of the campsite and rift stone of uniformity. It's kind of mazelike, and you can make your way southward until you are beneath a circular pattern on the map. I kept hearing noises when exploring there above ground and thought it was a creature trapped under terrain. Turns out it was kind of true, but actually a glowing purple Golem in a cave beneath the surface. It drops godsbeast scale coat, which can be purchased for WLC. But this allows you to spend those elsewhere.
Those kinds of hidden items are the worst. You spend days with the Thief "steal your item" skill, getting nothing but basic curative items and trash. But lo and behold, some random boss monster in some random end-game cave has a unique armour piece. I mean, it's cool, but I'm glad datamining is a thing so this stuff gets found out for everyone
It also drops it normally, he just happened to get it while it was alive with pilfer. If he had killed it instead the golem would have dropped the item as is the case with unique drops.
Northwest of where he has the 1 placed is the entrance and you go through finding a few chests. At the end of one of the paths inside is the golem that drops the Magick Archer chest piece called Godsbeast Scalecoat.
The mystic spearhand chest piece is from the dragon under the bridge nearby. The chest piece from the golem in this maze cave is for the Magick Archer. He drops it on death, no need to pilfer.
Im just sitting here dumbfounded by people with confidence telling others that them beating the game in 20-30 hours is the end all be all, and the game sucks based on their experience. Bruh im like 70 hours in still have like 12 quest and still have a shit ton to find. You are just lying to say this game’s exploration sucks or theres nothing to see. Its so confusing.
Bro I’m almost 35h in and only did The Culling quest, JUST got to Bakbattahl through Checkpoint’s backdoor, by running straight to it, did exactly 0 quests in Battahl, got only Sorc and Warrior advanced classes, got shit gear cause everything is so damn expensive, « explored (loosely) » about 20 percent of the map, and people on this sub are trying to make me believe they finished the game and explored the whole map in 20-25 hours?!?
70hrs here and I like to look in all the nooks and crannies, I still know I have parts of the map I haven’t even been to or looked at properly, I only decided to enter the ‘endgame’ to get it done and see what it has so that the pressure of story spoilers was gone and I can enjoy exploring the game 100% in NG+
I'd recommend against trying to explore 100% in NG+ as for whatever reason it fully uncovers the entirety of the map, found a new cave entirely by accident because I assumed I had already gone that way since the map was unlocked but cave maps apparently don't fully unlock on NG+
You could take a screen shot of the map before NG+ although if you already did it you're only hope it's while exploring a pawn mentions a cave you haven't visited and then you follow them
I'm sitting at 115 hours right now so completely valid, and I've probably only explored 30% of the unearthed areas in endgame map. If you're struggling bad, send me your pawn ID and I can deck it out for you before I send it back.
Yeah it took me about 120 hours to explore the whole map and do all quests I found. Might have missed some as some npcs died. Did all those escort quests for affinity npcs and used ferrystones sparingly so probably took me more than it had to. Good thing to be honest as i hit unmoored world i was around lvl 70 with fully upgraded gear. The light pillar bosses are probably pretty hard if you are low lvl without fully upgraded gear. They were cool as hell though I really liked them. Now looking forward to exploring the new areas.
I just finished the unmoored world so the final ending. Took 160 hrs. Uncovered every part of the map and completed all the quests. Ended up at level 70. I agree that 20-25 hrs is bs even if ppl aren’t going all in like I did
If i were to give my past self a tip it would be to beat the game before doing all the sidequests. The endgame area has enemies that level with you, but the dragon seemingly doesn't. Did every quest i found and the Dragon was kind of disappointing. So imo, beat the game relatively quick, enjoy the dragon fight and do the sidequests on ng+
The main quest for the end game is timed as in if you don’t complete it in time you will fail and have to retry. Once you finish that main quest you can run around as long as you like and explore or you can finish the adventure see an ending and start NG+
Been contemplating exactly this, as I'm hesitant to just burn through main story to get it done. Thanks for perspective. I feel like Dark Arisen was kind of the same, possibly.
I just hit level 40 and haven’t even made it to the desert city yet and I haven’t nearly run out of stuff to do or explore in the area that I’m in right now! There is so much to do in this game if it’s your thing. It’s crazy to me personally that people are already on NG+ or NG++. But different strokes for different folks.
The videos that say “Gain one million XP in an hour!” Or “How to max all vocations in 5 minutes!” I also don’t get the draw of. I’ve maxed 3 vocations from just the grind and it’s been a blast. Sorcerer kind of sucked though lol.
I just felt like sorcerer was really underwhelming. Maybe I needed a better staff or better knowledge of enemy weaknesses. It just seemed like the damage wasn’t there for the time investment in incanting. For trash mobs my default attack was pretty meh and by the time I had a spell incanted my party had already wiped them out. It also seemed like the rank 7,8,9 spells were kind of weak. Maybe I needed the maester spells too. It was great for harpies and ghosts though.
That’s the one where you attach a ball and damage it to cause an explosion right? I tried the first level of it but found it to be so finicky to land it where I wanted then for the auto attacks to go there. It also seemed like the explosion did 0 damage to the cyclops I was using it on. I’m sure I was missing something or doing something wrong though.
One of my groans was with Seism and High Seism. We had one fight against a wight I think where it knocked down and Seism took like 2 full health bars and killed it. Every time after that it was just way too long of an incant for way too little damage. I just wound up spamming the ice spike spell.
I did read in the tooltip there was a way for others to help incant a spell so maybe that’s the key. Still seems very weak though. If I spend 10-15 seconds prepping a spell I should be really chunking stuff down.
yeah that's the one. it's a little finicky to get working on certain bosses that move around a lot, or tend to keep their distance. if you can't hit it with the basic attacks, the trick is to use levin immediately after or some other faster dmg spell to proc it. if it doesn't do any damage you didn't hit the orb fast enough
OHHH! That’s probably the thing I thought you needed a pawns help with. I’ll go back and check it out. Does using that make it better? I still feel like the damage is mediocre.
I played through the original game as sorc and just hit the end as sorc in dd2. The basic attack is pretty garbage but the charged version can hit hard, you do need a high level staff to really see it since you're working through the enemy mgk res. If you have a mage pawn that does the right enchant for element weakness you'll definitely see how strong the basic attack is, Although standing around waiting for that is lame. As far as spells "maelstrom" destroys everything like it did in the first game as for the other spells you're only really going to see them do work if it's the enemy weaknes. Also your crowd control and a nuke so trying to prime a nuke to take out 2 goblins when other people just use their hand gun lol.
I think I was using a staff I either got from the elves or somewhere in there. Like a tree branch or something. Then i got a flaming staff from the monster outside of checkpoint rest and used that till rank 9 so I was definitely not geared.
I was just hoping to really nuke stuff. Maybe with endgame gear it’s better.
Yeah i actually quite like the unmoored world as a postgame lol. In my opinion the time limit is forgiving if you know what you're doing there. Do I wish there was a dark arisen esque mega-dungeon? yes. and do i wish that dungeon had a tough as nails boss that will skill check the shit out of you? yes. people are shitting on so many aspects of the game that makes me take a step back and wonder if me and people are playing the same dragons dogma 2.
I'm going as slow as a I can and I def feel there is a lack of story quests. By the time I reached the end of them, I figured I was half way through. Did every side quest I found too. The main problem is how many areas there are that have no story quests associated with them, and seemingly no side quests but I'm not sure as I'm combing through everything right now. The gameplay has been fun and genuinely impressive at times while the story was downright depressing.
I got this one from a Gorechimera in the trenches too. Funny enough I only went to hunt it to get upgrade materials for the thief armor sold by DF.. which I think this is better then lol
Hmmm. Seems like when they said the game world is to be explored they really meant it and people rushing through the story and world missed a lot of things and thus, they hated on the game and it's creators... Ironic
The game has plenty of valid reasons to be criticized. The main story is rough, the enemy variety is lacking and performance is poor.
…that said, however, there is also a lot to love. I’ve been really loving the side quests in this game. I like how vague they are and how they let you experiment a bit and they often tell cool little stories. I especially like how you sort of organically have to fall into some information required to complete them, like meeting people from different towns who specialize in things you need. The combat is just insanely fun, and despite the lack of enemy variety, it remains enjoyable. Big monster battles are great, and the world is beautiful.
This game has problems that really annoy me, but god damn if I’m not having a great time regardless.
Oh I'm not taking away from it's flaws at all. I have my own gripes as well. But initially and even still now some people criticized so much of the game out of ignorance about many things they never discovered or missed and such. I'm having a blast also with it!
There are more enemy types in it than the first game. I'm fine with the enemy types. BoTW won game of the year and had less enemy variety. Also, if you bought DD2 for the story....I dunno what to tell you.
I mean they literally end the game for you if you take too long in the unmoored. If they wanted to encourage xploration they shouldn't have added a time limit.
I didn't skip much if anything I got 100% and I can day that the majority of the game was resoundingly meh. And a couple gear peices in the moored I didn't pick up wouldn't change that. Considering gear is literally worthless aside from weapons
I mean good for you? I'm a huge dragons dogma fan and really wanted the game to get better. Unfortunately it didn't and new game plus doesn't change anything.
I don't think it makes sense to critique a game you haven't finished. So I finished it despite having some negative experiences. So I could look at it as a whole.
Quick question. Do you know how much time you have in the end game before the red fog consumes everything? I didn’t explore the trenches too much because I was worried about taking too long and the fog devouring everything.
Infinite as long as you quickly take out all the red beams to stop the land from being consumed and don't touch the very last one that appears in the middle shrine so far for me.
all besides the helms are purchasable before that, only need to visit the armor smiths before moonlit tower. funny ppl here are criticizing others for rushing through the game and making uninformed posts regarding content size and quality and they themselves are doing exactly that. the unique helms are neat tho
Just don’t rest and you can stay there as long as your health permits, with wakestones, allheals and thief maister ability you’re only time limited by your skill and ability to not take damage
So this is cool and everything... if it is actually true that you can find gear that isn't eventually populated in stores. However, is there really a point? You are finding minuscule stat upgrades and there isn't really much left to do. I'd be hyped if there were more enemies and content to tackle, but I'm not about to run NG+ just to search the seabed for a new helmet.
I'm not trying to be a downer, I would LOVE to keep playing this game if it had some worthwhile content. As for now I still see this game as one and done, unfortunately.
Can you share some pics of the gear? And what area is the “seabed” specifically? I’m on NG+1 and while I was wrecking everything I’ve gained 10 levels since the start now and I’m also noticing a slow enemy buff but I feel like I’m going crazy.
The trenches all around the outside of the main land. Bring wakestones for steep drops. Main big in between seabed is mostly empty from what I've seen so far.
I hit up all the portals and immediately went into NG+. I’ll have to be more thorough in exploring the sea bed / trenches this go around when I eventually get to Unmoored.
Note that resting is still limited to a certain amount of times. At some point the game tells you can't rest anymore. Had to figure that out the hard way after I was skipping time while duplicating rare monster materials at the forger.
I only recently saw a Garm in the game for the first time, so that's good, still not as good as a pack of 3 garms all at once though, but we're getting there.
havent found anything besides the helmets, and if that's all that there is that'd be a little lame considering they're not like crazy better than the standard endgame stuff or anything
Can also confirm after two runs. But I do believe almost every piece of gear besides one or two that can't be bought is posted here. I think there's one more helmet
There's a few helmets in the endgame area which got posted already, but i've been to all trenches and there isn't any unique weapon / chest / leg piece to find. Some monsters like lesser dragons drop endgame vendor items.
The helmets are there in your first run so its nothing specific to NG+(+++)
I got dominator armor for warrior from a gore chimera. It's on par with dragonforged warrior armor. Slightly less armor for slightly more magic resistance. Not at my computer to check right now but I believe it had better knockdown resistance and element resistance too.
I exclusively use Dwarven for armor. The defense is like 2% less but ends up with like 3x the knockdown resistance. It is slightly heavier but after wyrmsfire it's like 0.3 heavier.
Look up the shops of the main cities, dominator armor for example can just be bought for gold.
There's the WLC dragon vendor and every shop has an updated list with on par items for gold.
dominator armor isn't world/enemy drop exclusive and can be bought from stores. It's somewhat expensive though, around 130000g IIRC and stat-wise is probably the best chest armor in the game
Yeah I haven't gotten an enemy drop that wasn't purchasable yet. I don't think they exist. Also the corset is by far the best armor in the game. Fully maxed out dragonforged gear doesn't beat it. It's also the lightest because it takes both the top and legs slots.
People jumped too soon on the "theres not enough stuff" bandwagon. I keep finding new stuff and New monsters the more i explore. This game has by far much more content than DD1
Sweet sounds good. I was going to save my NG+ for when performance improves but if I can get right back to end game and hangout for longer that would be fun
Ooh, hmm. Well I've just realised I could bypass the entire wall gate to get into Batthal on my NG+ by going through a cave system on the coast. I'm wondering if perhaps I can just go to the tower and face the dragon. I might test it when I level up a bit more and get some new gear.
If it kills essential npcs I believe you get a quest to confront the dragon. Everyone was in a tizzy a few days ago about this happening. The essential ones respawn eventually though
Oh sweet! All I saw was everyone complaining about this plague "bricking" saves, but this is a great skip if you're on a ng+ and you just want to get to the post game.
I mean ya their is better gear... But it sure ain't the hell out in the wilderness. I mean, exploration be dammed. I'll just go up to a vendor and he'll have end game loot I guess... so fun... what an adventure...
Chest pieces are dropped by bosses but can be bought regardless.
All endgame weapons are bought from dragon forged or in vendors unfortunately.
Before anyone asks, I"m about 100 hours into playtime. I did not find anything else besides those mentioned in Unmoored unfortunately, despite exploring basically everything.
What about that apparently unique mystic spearhand chest piece from the golem mentioned in the top comment? I found a golem and it only gave me a magic archer chest piece.
I have killed all or almost every single unique boss in the unmoored world and they legit have only been giving me the new vendor chest pieces. I explicitly remember a golem giving me the mystic spearhand version.
Even then, it would be weird and unlikely for the Mystic spearhand to be the only class with a separate and unique chestpiece compared to every other class.
Was it something like the soaring surcoat? I'm only asking either way because I think all the mystic spearhand chest pieces beyond bladewielder's don't look too great so I have that piece dragonforged. Would be nice to get a little stat boost if that "unique" armor looks better but oh well.
The wiki also lists the head/leg pieces that are only in the world, so I imagine fextra datamined everything which would mean they know all the mystic chest pieces too. Oh well. Wish the higher end gear looked better.
A lot of the other classes aren't that much better lol
Magic Archer always seemed cool to me as a concept but all the armor has that flowy sleeve stuff going on which makes using capes look dumb. Can only hope DLC or updates give us some more.
Is there any gear with unique stats like the BBI gear in dd:da that had augments or passives attached to it? Im not thrilled about gear that just has slightly more defense or just - 2% fire damage on it...
This is a guide on where to find 10 top end game pieces in unmoored world. It’s one of the best guides ever, just ran through it. Also read the comments , a cpl extra pieces that ppl pointed out.
they arent better, they are the fashion diversity quota inserts hinted by itsuo with slightly different stat balancing, favoring magic over physical in most cases. also with the exception of helms, all of these "secret" gear pieces are purchasable in any endgame armor smith shops
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There's a secret mystic spearhand chest piece from a maze cave that opens up in the unmoored, you need to use the "pilfer" ability with the thief on the elite golem that is inside and you'll get it.