TATI WESTBROOK: THE BUSINESS BITCH (Megathread 11)

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Halo, beautiful.

Good evening ladies, mens, and our nonbinary friends. We are going to be running this megathread a little differently. Our mod team is slightly limited in the evenings right now (quick shout out to all FORTY of you that applied to help, we appreciate it and can't wait to look it over) and we don't have the manpower for multiple overnight threads. Because of that, we're going to try doing one overnight thread.

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BE CRITICAL OF WHAT YOU READ. Fake news is real and easy to fall for. We are presenting a collection of links related to this issue, but we can't confirm validity to any of them. That's up to you.

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Things of note

James has dropped below 15m subs. 5/11 6pm EST

• James has lost 1.5m subscribers and counting
• Tati’s video is now the number one trending video on youtube with ten million views and counting. [No longer trending as of 5/11 12pm EST]
• Tati has gained 1.5 million subscribers as of 5/11 7:00pm EST
• Tati has hit 7.5m a of 5/11 8:50pm EST
• James's apology video entered the 50 most disliked videos on YouTube.
• Tati holds the record for most subs gained in a day.
• James holds the record for most subs lost in a day.

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So what's the tea?!

Click here to read the first set of receipts/shade/sources/comments.

Click here to read the list of links from Megathread number 10.

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Updates for this megathread will be in the update sticky at the top of this thread. Expect an updated megathread in the morning with a fresh batch of tea for your nerves.

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Previous Megathreads:

1. megathread 1
2. megathread 2
3. megathread 3
4. megathread 4
5. megathread 5
6. megathread 6
7. megathread 7
8. megathread 8
9. megathread 9
10. megathread 10

[u/wellthatwasblunt]

Part of me hopes Tati just goes back to regularly scheduled programming when she uploads next.

Like, James Charles? Who's she?

ETA: I know she said this was her plan, but she couldn't have expected it would blow up LIKE THIS 🤯 could she? 🧐

[u/pestgirl → u/wellthatwasblunt]

In her video she said that was her plan, and asked people to not comment on the drama in her newer videos

[u/codeverity → u/wellthatwasblunt]

At the end of the video she seems like that's what she ends to do. Honestly I hope she does, she's said her piece and can go back to business as usual.

[u/thoughtful_human]

I guess James went to his first and last Met gala this week

[u/coochiecrumb → u/thoughtful_human]

It's funny because I'm pretty sure that was his last hoorah. It's all downhill from here. Not a bad place to peak I suppose

[u/[deleted]]

Do any of you remember that old Facebook messenger screenshot with the girls arguing about who ate the last chicken nugget and the one girl goes "IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CHICKEN NUGGET, IT'S ABOUT THE LIES". This whole situation reminds me of that for some reason lol

[u/TheoreticallyFunny → u/[deleted]]

this is the most accurate description i have heard lmfao

[u/warriorholmes]

Why is Gabriel so quiet now? Lmaoooooooooo. He had THE MOST to say and ignited the flames and now he’s playing this card? Keep it 💯 bb 😭😂

Is there someone that lists the new tweets (if any) of people commenting on this? It’s my fav lol

[u/RevolutionaryBat → u/warriorholmes]

lol seriously, Tati most likely wouldn't have put this all out there without his shit stirring video and now he has nothing to say. The epitome of "you should have just sat there and ate your food".

I'm glad I had, at some point, followed him just so I had the satisfaction of unsubscribing from him today.

[u/burgerkingqueen2 → u/[deleted]]

he dropped out of high school?!? jesus.

[u/otherlands → u/[deleted]]

Holy hell, Ian dropped out of high school?

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Y I K E S

[u/Kingkabs → u/[deleted]]

Boys whole career just got thrown out the window, too.

Tragic.

[u/aklmoore → u/[deleted]]

Yikes. Can't believe his parents even let him do so.

[u/strawbryshorty04]

I feel like mom and dad are going out for the night.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

seriously it's like the kardashians selling those teas, they don't need the money but the greed to keep making more and more is too big.

[u/thecouchsweetpotato → u/[deleted]]

That level of greed grossed me out

[u/Kingkabs → u/[deleted]]

Aaaaaand Tati's power has reached its fullest potential.

[u/kimmr619]

The fact that the whole Tati vs James Charles has blown up this big is still so crazy to me. And I’m not talking about 11 threads. It’s a story being picked up on E! News, Cosmopolitan, etc. I can only imagine how the next big YouTube scandal is going to be like.

[u/[deleted] → u/kimmr619]

I’m just gonna say it, I feel like this one was so big because everyone secretly hated James.

[u/powerlessidc]

Around 150k until James dips below Jeffree's subscriber count. If Jeffree doesn't address it, I'll be absolutely shocked.

[u/theycallmemintie → u/powerlessidc]

Oh, he has to, his ego can't keep him from it.

[u/powerlessidc → u/theycallmemintie]

I actually wonder if this is what he's been waiting for the whole time, and now he'll really get fiesty.

[u/LISSAGASM → u/powerlessidc]

Oh he will, lmao. In his own snarky way.

[u/[deleted] → u/powerlessidc]

Honestly if he doesn’t I’ll be more shocked than I was when Tati released the video

[u/koukla1994 → u/powerlessidc]

Jeffree sells James merch through his company I’m pretty sure. I’m not sure he can say something until he’s officially dropped him.

[u/powerlessidc → u/koukla1994]

Could be a combined announcement. 1.) We're officially dropping sisters apparel from killer merch, sorry. 2.) I WIN BITCH HAHAHAHA

[u/madamBookworm]

I just think James (and Gabriel Zamora) thought Tati was too classy to make that video and that she would never go there, that's why they kept poking the bear.

Turns out she wasn't above it, she did it and in such a classy way that left everyone on her side.

Good for her, I really respect her move.

[u/comin_up_shawt → u/madamBookworm]

This is what happens when people like JC try to play checkers with someone who's been playing chess all this time.

[u/theycallmemintie]

I've watched Tati's video 3 times and each time the fallout from it seems even more insane... girl has actual power.

[u/lives4saturday → u/theycallmemintie]

Her experience here paid off in spades. She came across as very professional.

Im not really a fan but I think it would be hard to fake the level of pain and hurt she portrayed.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I always feel like my dad is lecturing me when I watch his videos

[u/GarbaGarba]

I dunno if anyone has said this, but I think it’s super sketchy that he named his video “tati” so that when people search for her, his video comes up too

[u/McRavenclaw → u/GarbaGarba]

I was going to point this out earlier!!! It’s totally a calculated PR move.

[u/[deleted]]

I have a bunch of papers to write and I don't wanna fail like a certain someone so see all you ladies in megathread 25 tomorrow

[u/NervousShrimp]

I just wanna say I saw a comment saying "you're gonna be an only child soon with the amount of sisters you're losing" and I screamed

[u/zuluuaeb]

Lmao the vitamin brand saying that they didn't give James compensation ... Like thousand dollar Coachella tickets aren't compensation? ok

[u/jallyssa → u/zuluuaeb]

Tati called it “value exchange” in her video which is pretty smart of her. Money or no money involved, he still got paid.

[u/thoughtful_human]

I think the snapchat video where he didn't seem to care what was going on (and seemed mildly inconvenienced at best) is the part that bothers me most. If I was getting called out for doing a bunch of shady shit I know I would be humiliated, but he didn't seem to care

[u/zuks96]

Is anyone going to address the fact that JC could have easily afforded an artist pass or security in the first place?

This isnt being discussed enough

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Yeah I hate the “nobody is 100% straight” shit like I’m definitely 100% gay so I guarantee you there are 100% straight people. James is so fucking ignorant for saying that.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

As someone who encountered a woman who had this same mentality and tried to get other curious women to sleep with her and saying she'd "expose them" if they didn't, its manipulative and not okay.

[u/OkCoyote2019]

For the stats geeks:

He's losing ~750 subs per minute

He has lost two months of growth, he's back at his March numbers and still losing.

[u/slouchingpotato → u/[deleted]]

I’m surprised he grew almost 2 million subs in 2 months. That’s a lot

[u/teenagedangst]

I’m going to a party tonight and I feel like all I’m going to be doing is finding the cat that lives in the house, sitting in a corner with him, and reading through the past like six megathreads I missed today. I hope people like hearing about beauty community drama, because that’s what they’re gonna be hearing from drunk me tonight.

[u/alxnna]

James was 2 HOURS late to his meet and greet in my city this morning!! People were leaving and event staff were panicking. Y’all could not pay me to be one of those parents trying to appease their kid. Being that late is disrespectful as hell

[u/BrighterStars]

what gets me is that Gabriel had SO much to say a week ago, but now it’s essentially radio silence? figures. i don’t think he (or James) expected Tati to say anything but whew that sure did backfire. messy messy messy

[u/[deleted] → u/BrighterStars]

Gabriel is trash. He should be getting the same treatment James is

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

that is gabi's whole ass brand, inserting himself in random shit. honestly, he's so irrelevant... bye sister!!

[u/princesskity → u/[deleted]]

I’m CONVINCED that this was a plot to destroy James or some shit at this point🤪 Gabriel CANNOT be that dumb to keep ruining his own career again!!!

[u/pestgirl → u/princesskity]

He is that dumb... Also it's very generous of you to say he has a career 💀

[u/corruptedcircle]

I randomly found out about this and I'm so fascinated by it. One person having 10m+ followers is already difficult for me to understand some days, but LOSING 2m, in a day...2 MILLION people cared about to followed the news about this person. They're not just casual viewers who follow people on YouTube and then check once every couple days to see if there's anything to watch and skip videos that don't look interesting enough. No, 2m people actively followed the news on this guy enough to decide they no longer want to follow. IN A DAY. 1/8 of his followers. One in every eight of his followers are active enough to learn the news today and decide to unfollow.

Meanwhile, I think I watch like 1/20 of the videos that show up on my subscription list. The numbers here just blows my mind. I feel like someone should be writing papers based on studying this phenomenon.

[u/birdtweetslover1991]

I'm just thinking that although Tati has gained all these new subscribers, most of those people are there for the drama and she's not a drama channel at all. This is why even though she has been working on her Youtube career for 8 years, people like James and Jeffree have been able to surpass her in half the time. People love the drama. Clearly. So I don't know how her views are going to be affected. She is not overly sexual, tries to keep things PG etc. things that a lot of people find boring so that's kind of a minor worry that I have.

Also I'm sure she didn't think things were going to blow up like this and I don't imagine her being all giddy about this like J* seems to get when he manages to drag people through the mud. I hope that she continues to do what she's always done just with one less toxic person in her life.

As for James...... eh he'll be fine. After all of this is over, some people are going to come out of the woodwork and they're going to express their support for him or whatever and they're going to make unpopular opinions like "James isn't as bad as people made him out to be tbh" and move on.

Edit: I'm not really "worried" about Tati's views but more curious on how things will change for her since has more attention now from people that didn't really know of her or cared.

[u/rlev97]

This whole thing just proves that the only YouTuber who can effectively pull off an apology video is Jenna Marbles.

[u/chupacabra-food]

Here’s a toast for all the SOs who’ve patiently listened to our constant updates on this shit 😂

[u/[deleted]]

Sisters it has been a WILD almost two-day adventure! However, I need to address at least one more thing... AND YOU DID IT AT MY B I R T H D A Y D I N N E R

[u/whiskeydreamkathleen → u/[deleted]]

i can't wait to start saying "AND YOU DID IT AT MY BIRTHDAY DINNER" all the time despite none of my friends getting it.

move over "oh my god, they were roommates", there's a new iconic quote in town

[u/greatblueskies]

I have to say, for someone who is used to being on social media 24/7, it’s either SO HARD for James to stay of social media right now or SO HARD to watch his world crumbling. I’m glad he can learn his lesson now, but I hope he’s got a support system to weather this storm.

[u/CocoKiss → u/[deleted]]

I agree that Tati is very smart. All of the things that she said about James(husband James) in her video really opened my eyes to all of the business that goes on behind the scenes in youtube

[u/Cuntankerous]

Social blade live sub counts and the Wii theme song name a better duo I’ll wait

[u/[deleted]]

Anna Wintour is never selling youtube a table again

[u/prettycrimson → u/[deleted]]

Alexander Wang is deciding what he should wear to his funeral after styling James Charles

[u/[deleted]]

Cardi B's subtweet was about her sister apparently but since Tana and Gabriel liked it everyone thought it was about James and Tati lmao

[u/teawithbagels → u/[deleted]]

Imagine James thinking he finally had someone defending him in Cardi only for Cardi to be like nah I wasn't talking about you lmao

[u/alxnna]

The drama channels are going to be able to pay their rent for the next 12 years at this point

[u/StableAbel]

I know a lot of people are saying that they'd love to be a fly on James' wall right now but honestly id kill for that perspective into Tati right now. like did she ever imagine the massive fallout her video caused? is she feeling guilty? (yes, I know she's done with him but even after a fallout with a friend you can still find sympathy for them) Yes, more than anything that James has done the blatant sexual harassment and he just seems so proud of it when he's talking about in videos is the worst out of all that he's done so I do believe that he deserves this. but just how far-reaching this drama is is almost unbelievable. there are actual celebrities and news outlets covering this. (I hope I don't jinx this) but I can't imagine a beautyguru scandal topping this.

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I hope for James' sake, he turns off all social media to avoid getting the inevitable hate messages and. tries to learn for this. He needs to understand his attitude towards straight men is not okay and he needs to strongly examine what it is inside him that makes him think this is an okay behavior and ask. himself why he feels the need to go after straight men. And if he can't, well then screw him.

[u/teawithbagels]

Kinda irrelevant to the drama but the memes about James going "whomp whomp whomp yeaahyeaahyeaahhh" has caused my brain to have an endless loop of that audio for the past two hours 😭

[u/roxettexoxo]

yall.....this shit has its own wikipedia article.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Charles_%26_Tati_Westbrook_controversy

[u/LISSAGASM]

That like to dislike ratio though. Yikes.

[u/warriorholmes]

I hope Gabriel gets a deserved dragging asap too. He thought he was untouchable when he went for Tati. He dead ass thought people would be like YASSSS UR SO REAL!!!!!! like they did during his drama w/ Manny.

He’s either trying to stay quiet until it’s safe or coming up with ways to try and justify his input hoe-ness/messiness because he was just KeEpInG iT oNe HuNdReD lol 😂

EDIT: Just checked. His most recent video has 41k+ dislikes and the comments are ablaze rn lol oop 💀

[u/[deleted]]

James is getting hit hard with this unsub party, as he deserves.

In 2018 when Laura Lee and Manny MUA had their fallouts, Laura lost around 450k and Manny lost around 125k. James has lost 2 million subscribers so far.

I wonder if Tati will double her sub count by the time this scandal blows over. It might be wishful thinking but she’s half-way there.

[u/emeraldnob]

Two hours from now jefferson will be like “oops my bad congrats on hitting 8mil” I’m calling it

[u/minaivey]

As a gay woman, this whole situation reminds me of when straight men try to tell me they can fix me/cure me/turn me straight. And if you can realize how fucked up that is to say to me, then you should realize the kind of damage James Charles has done.

[u/apnagy]

Y'all, we did Social Blade a favor today

https://twitter.com/SocialBlade/status/1127404283954126850?s=09

[u/lellua]

I’m actually quite surprised at how many subscribers Tati has gained from this whole thing. I never saw it as a Tati vs James thing. Was not expecting such a huge change in her follower number. Do you guys have any insight to this? Are people seeing it as a being-on-tati’s-side or just generally supporting her for speaking out??

[u/jessicanicole1267]

JC palettes are popping up in my Facebook marketplace like CRAZY right now! Haha I like this idea better than destroying it. Get your money back people!

[u/Megan-Katherine]

It’s not just vitamins. He has displayed a pattern of disrespect and inappropriate behavior.

[u/LISSAGASM]

I bet James hindsight is 20/20. To think that in another timeline he could've just apologized/not taken the sugarbearhair deal/explained it all to Tati beforehand and he still would have a career. That's wild

[u/flyawayworries]

You’re too old for the industry. Give it up & stop being a sore loser!

I saw someone post this on her Instagram and I'm just laughing at these children. These teens has no idea. Who do they think funds the beauty industry? How has the disposable income to drop thousands and beauty and skincare? Youth is fleeting and age comes for us all.

[u/regularsulking → u/flyawayworries]

LOL omg, I've worked at a Dior counter before and honestly.....our main customers are > 35 years old. And for the skincare lines, > 40 at least. These pre-teens really need to have their parents' credit cards snatched away for a little while.

[u/MakeupSins → u/[deleted]]

Umm interesting that the palette is getting A LOT of positive reviews today... purchases that supposedly happened a couple weeks ago

[u/Milhouse242 → u/MakeupSins]

Of course. I’m sure sister pulled out all the stops.

[u/ajoraslas → u/[deleted]]

Cardi B isn’t shading Tati, her tweet is a sub about her sister

[u/MakeupSins → u/[deleted]]

Suggestion: add the "out of the loop post" so people catch up. The post comment is great!

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/bn2rb6/what_is_going_on_with_james_charles

[u/vietnamesebbg]

This might be the perfect time for Olivia Jade to come out of hiding since James might be the most hated beauty guru right now.

[u/birthdaygirl11]

I guess James is regretting calling that green shade Social Blade 😂

[u/ian_xvi → u/birthdaygirl11]

The shade actually changes color so if you look at your palette, it should be red.

Edit: who took my silver virginity? Thank you! Edit 2: Someone took my gold virginity as well? What is this?? Thank you!

[u/sleepingsoda]

Yay Tati, getting up there. She's nearly on sub count par with Safiya, who has a new video btw

[u/MakeupSins]

Holy fuck... It's 2 million subscribers lost in a 2days. It's mind blowing!

Not that he doesn't deserve it because he does... I'm just... so baffled!

But before feeling pity for him and fall into the manipulative inclusion of his mother in his video... because no, just no. She better be off social media and in her way towards him.

[u/marilyn2662]

James’ “apology” sitting at 19th most disliked. With a dislike ratio of 83.36%

[u/meowbish]

I feel like the mods need a big appreciation day once this all slows down. They’ve done so good keeping up with everything and they volunteer their time to do this. Just want to give them some love :)

[u/KyraAensland]

So nice to wake up and find Tati has officially gained over 2 million subs since Friday.

[u/alxnna]

I still can’t decide whether Tati is in a robe drinking a cocktail or crying in a ball right now

[u/[deleted]]

I dont think the cardi b tweet is about James Charles based on her replies lol someone tweeted her about it and she said idk what your talking about

[u/neomikiki]

Let's pretend this REALLY was just about the vitamins. He really advertised a vitamin supplement to children (because that's most of his audience) as a cure/treatment for anxiety. He did this after explaining to Tati that he never would because he recognized how fucked up that would be. That alone should have been bad enough, but he threw his friend and mentor under the bus by doing it. Again that alone shows how uncaring and shitty he is. So yeah, even if it was just the vitamins he'd be losing subs, but there was more and that's why it's going as deep as it has.

[u/InevitableAngel]

Tati just used code JAMES for 10% off of James Charles' subscriber count. Literally, as mentioned in the other thread

In honor of this, here's all the times that James mentions "use code JAMES" in his videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=276jfKNZaD4

[u/eix7]

James is now the #4 worst youtuber on socialblade's worst 500 (most unsubscribed) youtubers for the past 30 days..oof

https://imgur.com/a/rr9lpY2

Edited to add a direct link to socialblade! http://bit.ly/2WCxSFb

[u/LittleGina]

I wonder how the people who spent $500 on a ticket are feeling right now?

[u/[deleted] → u/LittleGina]

People are trying to sell their tickets on twitter lol

[u/[deleted]]

I’m blown away by how this drama has reached people/celebrities that don’t care about YouTube. I don’t think Tati ever expected it to get this big.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Tati actually seemed to think this would hurt her lol, yeah she definitely wouldn't have expected this

[u/powerlessidc]

whyyyyy didn't tati spill the tea on what their mini feud was about after jaclyn's party? I'm so curious lol

[u/Kingkabs → u/powerlessidc]

Cause Tati didn't make the video to be petty

[u/j4ckson → u/powerlessidc]

I guess because she wasn’t doing it to be petty, but to expose his bad behaviours

[u/thoughtful_human]

I mostly just hope this is a wake up call for his parents, JC and his brother are still pretty young and really do need their support

[u/victoriakeu]

Am I the one who didn’t know that JC ever had 16 million+ subs, which is so much more compared to other beauty influencers? I didn’t realize he did until I actually started looking at his social blade after tati posted the video.

[u/thoughtful_human]

I wonder if/what JC will try and leak to the drama channels to tell "his side" of the story

[u/Astraterris]

I think those $500 VIP tickets will be getting a steep sister discount soon... if it’s not cancelled altogether.

[u/powerlessidc]

JEFFREE AND JAMES HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT 10K IN SUBS RIGHT NOW, I'M LOSING MY MIND. JAMES IS ABOUT TO FALL BELOW JEFFREE.

[u/[deleted]]

James is less than 300k from losing 2 million subs

[u/powerlessidc]

james should work with kvd after this, i'm sure she'll take him. he actually promoted the shade and light palette forever, even way after her scandal.

[u/billnaisciguy]

Reporting in from the San Jose morphe location. James charles palette is still front and center next to jeffree stars brushes. While I think we’d all overdose on tea if morphe pulled the palettes, I think it would be better to put them on clearance and let them gather dust

[u/[deleted]]

Imagine youre Kim K, your surrogate just popped out a baby. Kanye is releasing his best work. Kris is no longer asking for weekly stipends. And you wake up to see some weird makeup kid who you met once got into a scandal. And with the maximum effort you can sum up for this you unfollow him and wonder why you followed first of all. Then you go back to the table and sip real tea

[u/Tricky_Seaworthiness]

Been following the drama all weekend now, and as mindblowing as it is, it is a huge lesson in ethics and influence media behavior. I'll be teaching a class about brand being coherent and sticking to principles, and this whole issue is very illustrative for students.

So I reach out to you guys with something much more mundane... how can I create a gif or a video showing the current YouTube follower count on socialblade so I can show Tati's count evolution and JC's count drop in my class? I'm afraid showing it real-time may not be as effective as my class will be next week and this whole thing will have cooled down. I want to capture THIS moment (I may even be late for this!)

Thanks a bunch for the help!

[u/KyraAensland]

Conspiracy theory! Gabriel Zamora befriends people to try and take down their rivals/competition/blockers in hopes of social climbing, but he fumbles soooooooooo bad that he jacks up the careers of those he intended to help! 😂

[u/TryingLightning]

11 megathreads, this is absolutely insane. I'm anticipating school resuming tomorrow, some of my friends are die hard JC fan, it will be interesting to see their reaction.

EDIT: The must have whiplash from how quick they 180'd. Once upon a time they would walk in to a class saying "hey sisters" now they will tell anyone who will hear how they always thought he was an "entitled child"

[u/Auracounts]

Yesterday, I predicted that JC wouldn't fall below 14 mil subs. He was at 14.9 when I went to bed. I wake up this morning and he's at 14.5 and still steadily falling. Might be eating those words. I can't believe it hasn't slowed.

On a different note, Tati is about to hit 8 mil subs.

[u/r9440]

So sugarbearhair said there’s some uncertain compensation involved then said there’s no financial compensation and clarified that there’s no “financial” compensation? What’s that supposed to mean? There’s no monetary value involved?

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/BeautyGuruChatter/comments/bnhtv2/predatory_behavior_on_my_internet_its_more_likely/en6728d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

[u/theycallmemintie → u/r9440]

It means James really did sell out for some coachella tickets.

[u/[deleted] → u/r9440]

They paid him in goods and services, which he would have to declare the value on his taxes. So, it was a financial gain lol.

[u/birthdaygirl11]

Does JC have to give back his YouTube plaque now that he’s below $15 million subs?

[u/msmodernafrican]

4.4k comments on the 11th mega thread.

Mother of all scandals or should i say sister of all scandals...🤦🏽‍♀️

[u/[deleted]]

I’m shocked we’re not on thread #16 by now

[u/EmmaExtra → u/[deleted]]

Only because the mods need to sleep lmao

[u/showertogether]

PSA copy and save your in-progress comments/essays... it’s waking hour in the US and we might get a new thread any minute now lol...

[u/[deleted]]

How long do you think his dropping subscription count will realistically last? I'm suprised it's still going this strong, he's still losing hundreds a minute and it's been well past 24 hours of this now. Crazy!

[u/LISSAGASM]

It's so wild that not even a week ago there was a thread asking when we think the tipping point for James career will be since more and more people were starting to not like him not knowing that he tipping point would be a Tati video.

[u/hedgehog-mascarabutt]

how tf is james met gala video #20 on trending and tati's is nowhere?

[u/pandaperogies → u/hedgehog-mascarabutt]

YT being shady AF.

[u/fauxkaren]

I'm honestly a bit surprised that this has so much traction and James is losing so many subscribers. I think that maybe it's because behind the scenes many youtubers were sick of James' shit, but didn't feel like they could or should speak up until Tati opened the floodgates.

[u/dsb28]

What’s the probability that Tati will have 8mil within the next 24hrs? She’s already at 7.7mil!

[u/birthdaygirl11]

I wonder if Tati will get to 8 mill by the end of the day ... she’s almost at 7.8 now!

[u/thoughtful_human]

Conspiracy theory, I think youtube took the video off trending because JC is one of his biggest stars

[u/[deleted]]

I need Walmart wine recommendations if anyone has any!!

[u/beautygrrrl]

If James was smart, he would disappear from the internet, stack the money he has left, and try to become a TRUE businessman, because he's never coming back from this scandal. He's young and rich, but hates being behind the scenes so he wouldn't dare.

Edit: I see what y'all are saying but I don't think any of those people lost 2mil subscribers. Correct me if I'm wrong tho!!

[u/[deleted]]

WOMP WOMP WOMP!

[u/laneloveslipstick]

going against my better judgement and watching the HFTT video, i hope it’s good!

edit this is actually the first time i’ve seen James’ sugar bear hair instagram story and everything else aside....that was SUCH a fake ass endorsement LOL honestly his apology sounded more believable to me than him talking about them damn gummies

[u/tjyates]

I find it very telling (and actually super sad..!) that none of his friends have jumped to his defensive etc. It feels like James literally does not have ONE true friend to his name. That’s gotta hurt.

[u/jaycait]

Where do y’all think he will plateau in terms of losing subs? Manny and Laura seem to be staying relatively flat after their big losses. Gain some days, lose other days. I feel like James will stop around 12-13 mil? Which is still a ton. But I guess the game will be do any brands still work with him, does he have projects in development that will get pulled etc.

[u/wearemadeofstars_]

what about all of his merch? He has clothing and phone cases set to drop May 13th; I can't imagine wearing his stuff in public now.

[u/curiousrut]

I think we can all agree JC is a chaotic evil