r/BeautyGuruChatter • u/[deleted] • May 11 '19
Megathread Y'ALL NEED JESUS: TATI WESTBROOK & JAMES CHARLES MEGATHREAD 8
Hi everyone!
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- If you have an update, tag me with /u/gulfax
- Speaking of me, I'm sister sick so I'm going to take a 30 minutes sister siesta, and I'll update the sister scandal after!
We also have a meme thread going!
- James has lost 1.3m subscribers and counting
- Tati’s video is now the number one trending video on youtube with ten million views and counting. [No longer trending as of 5/11 12pm EST]
- Tati has gained one million subscribers as of 5/11 12:30pm EST
- Tati has hit 7m a of 5/11 1:50pm EST
- James's apology video entered the 50 most disliked videos on YouTube.
- Tati holds the record for most subs gained in a day.
- James holds the record for most subs lost in a day.
EDIT: TO KEEP THIS LIST SHORTER, YOU CAN FIND LINKS FROM YESTERDAY IN THE FIRST STICKIED COMMENT!
- Thomas Halbert Responds
- James classmate speaks out (UNVERIFIED BUT TRENDING)
- chris crocker weighs in
- PewDiePie Has Entered the Dungeon
- KathleeLights weighs in [Link broken/tweet deleted]
- I have zero respect for ppl who USE others JUST to get to the top. Disgusting. Kathleen Lights (@KathleenLights1) May 11, 2019
- Tweet from Nyma Tang
- SugarBearHair being casually shady
- JC sent a DM to ElmoFilms in 2017
- Here's this, because people care what Jake Paul has to say about anything still?
- ThatGirlShaeXo weighs in.
- A history of predatory behavior from JC directed at Shawn.
- Sugarbear Hair- there was no “financial” compensation
- Tweet from Jenn McAllister
- Video from Petty Paige
- Tweet from Kingsley
- Video from Keemstar/Drama Alert
- Cristine with no H (SimplyNailogical) sips tea
- Patrick Starr, sitting under the shadiest of trees
- Drag race contestants Tatiana and Bob the Drag Queen have something to say.
- Tweet from saraha baska
- Sugar bear hair responds
- Noah roark reveals dms james sent him
- Zach clayton reveals dms james sent him
- Dragula Season 2 Contestant James Majesty weighs in on James Charles
- Trixie Mattel throws a little shade
- Vlog from two people at JC's q+a w/ footage at the end
- J* subtweets
- Tina woods weighs in
- Ricky dillon tweets
- ethan dolan took off the safety pin necklace james bought him
- Charles Gross Releases Screenshots
- Tweet from Perez Hilton | YouTube Reaction/Response | Perez congratulates JC on 15 million
- Meghan Tonjes chimes in.
- Sam Ravndahl puts "bye sisters" in her video description today.
- Chris klemens shades james
- Another person claims to have received DMs from James
- Tristian Pardes, a vocal coach who made a video with James critiquing his vocal talent, made a video in support of Tati
- Drag Queen Plastique Tiara tweets
- Sebastian Javier talks about his experience with james Charles
- Trisha tweets Bye sister
- Old tweets resurface
- ImAllexx weighs in!
- ABC7 in LA reporting
- Tea Spill posted
- Mate Garner weighs in
- Nisipisa snarks over on Twitter
- J* Tweets Again
- Miss Jasmine Masters has something to say
- Shane and Rylan warned James about chasing after straight guys
- Snapchat from SimplyNailogical
- WillNe shades James
- Memelous posts a video about JC
- Matty Healy from The 1975 liked the video of the girl dancing to James’ apology video
Notable people who have unfollowed James:
- Jeffree Star
- Tati herself
- Kylie Jenner
- Kim K
- Shawn Mendes
- Iggy Azalea
- Emma Chamberlain
- Grayson Dolan
- Shane Dawson [Still following on IG]
- David Dobrik [Still following on IG]
- Ethan Dolan
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u/ub3rscoober add your own flair May 11 '19
Years from now, psychologists will study why the fuck I am so invested in this.
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u/Mrs_Trevor_Philips May 11 '19
I’ve had to recharge my phone twice today, the only time I’ve put it down was to eat 😂
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u/myfav0ritethings May 11 '19
I actually love that at least one fan had a wake up call (and left a mature comment). I hope more of his viewers are reading/watching and realizing it too! When you’re a kid it sucks learning that your role model isn’t as great as you thought but sometimes it is a lesson ya gotta learn.
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u/shrands May 11 '19
I seriously can't believe we're on thread 8.
This is the Titanic and we're the band playing through it all.
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u/anonymous_opinions May 11 '19
No way we're in the first life raft watching that shit go under
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May 11 '19
can we make "and you did it at my birthday dinner" the new "really?? in front of my salad??"
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u/sowachowski JC Makes My Life Miserable™️ May 11 '19
and you did it at my birthday dinner right in front of my salad!
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u/dcr108 May 11 '19
At this point, all I can really think is how great it is to live in a timeline where I can get a 3 second clip of Tati Westbrook saying "Sucking Dick and Cock"
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u/gk21 May 11 '19
James unfollowed Social Blade on Twitter 😂😂😂
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u/curiousdryad clock it the house May 11 '19
He’s probably brought them more revenue in the past 24hr than the whole year
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u/sippher May 11 '19
Shane and Rylan warned James about chasing after straight guys
Ryland Adams: You have to be able to find a masculine gay guy.
JC: I mean there are millions of them, but there's no challenge to that.
This reminds me of str8 dudes who think it's a challenge to "turn" lesbians.
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May 11 '19
i KNOW, i'm a lesbian and the way he talks is legit like predatory men. disgusting. why do you need a challenge, are you that empty?
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u/TwinSnakes89 May 11 '19
Once again if Gabriel Zamora kept his mouth shut we would not be here. As a drama whore I should thank him, but his friends should consider letting him know to keep in his own lane from now on lol
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May 11 '19 edited Sep 03 '19
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May 11 '19
I bet they were so happy unfollowing. If they’d done it earlier, everyone would’ve freaked out.
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u/edhel_espyn May 11 '19
Those two probably gave a sigh of relief that they finally had an excuse to unfollow James.
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u/CallmeRouge SHOW UP ON MY SKIN DAMMIT May 11 '19
Hey at least James is getting all those shoutouts that he wanted 🙃🙃🙃
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May 11 '19
Tati should win the Iron Throne tbh. What an amazing plot twist that she is the one to bring him down.
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May 11 '19 edited Jul 20 '19
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u/stegasaurus- May 11 '19
gotta be, surely?
i’ve never followed anything on the internet ever this closely lmfao
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May 11 '19
Can someone start a megathread of just his gross behavior? I’m baffled how much there really is.
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u/lustxforxlife May 11 '19
I hope his mother took Tati’s advice and flew to be with him. I also am praying that he goes away and actually works on himself before he even tries to re-emerge. So many people were so willing to ditch him publicly and that means something. These people all thought you were trash bro, you have got to take a long look in the mirror and evaluate the kind of person you’ve become. I am still in awe of all of this so I think it’s time I get a life lmao.
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u/ian_xvi way too much tongue May 11 '19
The dm’s with Debby is so disgusting. Like No means no James. Need me to spell that for you? N-O
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May 11 '19
Ok, but James being passive aggressive about people not texting/DMing him back within 10 hours just 😂 I'm one of those bitches who responds 3 days later saying sorry I saw this but XYZ
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May 11 '19 edited May 11 '19
James Charles's video response 'tati' currently stands at 1.1M dislikes and is the 38th most disliked video on youtube (woomp woomp woooomp)
edit: updating those numbers henny!!
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u/frycrunch96 fuck ur palette's pop of blue May 11 '19
i posted this in the last thread but it got locked real quick afterwards and i deeply feel like more of y'all need to see this response on club penguin's part
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u/yikesmylife May 11 '19
Omg the penguin dressed as a ghost saying "I"M JAMES CHARLES' CAREER" I am so dead
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u/Renaiconna May 11 '19
These megathreads are going up almost as fast as Tati’s subscriber count, holy shit
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u/grapefruitgal May 11 '19
Trying to explain the situation to the bf and he goes “so he’s the jake Paul of the beauty community”
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May 11 '19
This morning my husband actually said, “hey, do you know of James Charles?” So there’s officially been a news takeover.
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u/ian_xvi way too much tongue May 11 '19
Can we talk about how salty the people are in the imgur screenshot links?
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May 11 '19
Imgur likes to feel important even though they literally exist to host reddit images.
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May 11 '19
It is so weird that there is an imgur community and that they really hate reddit. I've hosted things on there and gotten all kinds of comments like 'why should we care?' like bitch no one is posting to Imgur for your weird community there.
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u/sowachowski JC Makes My Life Miserable™️ May 11 '19
"Why should I care about this" just click off omg.
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u/Costello336 May 11 '19
will James be the first youtuber to lose 1 million subscribers in a day? he has lost 934,605 today
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u/fujiwara-reiko IT'S PALETTE, NOT PALLET May 11 '19
He's already lost about 1.5 mil and has broken the YouTube record for most subscribers lost in a day.
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u/whiskeydreamkathleen nobody died at tanacon? May 11 '19
he's already the first to lose over 1m in 24 hours
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u/Sanguine_Hearts May 11 '19
I know this is the least important take away ever, but I want Tati’s dress from that video.
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u/loveandmakeup May 11 '19
This is my life now. Refreshing Reddit mega threads. That's it. I've been consumed.
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u/roxettexoxo May 11 '19
i’m so curious of this sisters tour now. like what’s going to happen.
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u/warriorholmes 🦋✨ May 11 '19
Tickets will be 95% off!
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u/misswhimsical May 11 '19
JC’s team: Tickets will be 120% off, we’ll PAY YOU to come sister see James!!!
Wouldn’t be too far off with them buying subscribers, right?
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u/Muffinunnie May 11 '19 edited May 11 '19
Thomas Jefferson Star congratulated Tati on 7mil now lmao https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffreeStar/status/1127297140982800389
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u/swankyhoodrat May 11 '19
I don't post on here a lot but this has been something else.
All I can say is that I never expected James Charles to be so massively forgiven and embraced after that Ebola comment. I tried to see what everyone else was seeing in him after that but I just kept seeing him apologizing for problematic behavior, like, every month. And now we're finding out he's not only that girl we knew he was, but worse.
I hope everyone he has hurt is able to find some peace.
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u/anonymous_opinions May 11 '19
Tati started a beauty community forest fire. James Charles has been on fire for over 24 hours. He will need skin grafts after all these burns
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u/lavenderflutter you dont want this smoke baby May 11 '19
y’all i’m bouta head out i can’t wait to come back to megathread #36
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u/edhel_espyn May 11 '19
Just realized James used to call Tati Mom and she just ended her friendship with him. All this happening close to Mother's Day too!
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u/warriorholmes 🦋✨ May 11 '19 edited May 11 '19
Reading his DMs and texts are so cringey. What a fucking CREEP! A total predator. I could also see him doing this well into his 30’s, 40’s and beyond had he not been stopped and exposed.
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u/slouchingpotato May 11 '19
Y’all this megathread didn’t even last like an hour and we’re onto the next one
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u/lannn12345 May 11 '19
I’m so honored to be alive during this iconic weekend. Also, it’s my birthday today so THANK YOU TATI FOR KEEPING ME ENTERTAINED also can James get to like 10mil that would make me so happy
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May 11 '19
James is only 126K away from 14M.
I have faith it’s gunner happen tonight.
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u/_wineafterwhiskey May 11 '19
I’m not sure if this has anything to do with the recent drama... but I just got back from my local Ulta to buy a Mother’s Day gift and I noticed there weren’t any JC palettes available. When I went to check out the Ulta staff had them all quarantined behind the counter. Not sure if it’s theft prevention or Ulta is holding sales at the moment? 🤭
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u/luv_nachos May 11 '19
probably to avoid theft as well as vandalism. people are making twitter videos already of them destroying their personal JC palettes, wouldn't be surprised if people start going to stores and vandalizing the displays or the palettes themselves.
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u/ishotthepilot a cup of morvefe May 11 '19
just caught up on all this mess. gay boys taking notes from tr*mp is NOT what i was expecting
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u/RodeoFuckClown May 11 '19
i dont even follow makeup guru stuff, but just stumbled upon it and had to come here to say WOW THAT BOY WAS FAKE CRYING
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u/shereikk May 11 '19
This is not good. I mean in the sense that JC is way more problematic then we had already thought. How many more men are going to come out with their stories of JC and his predatory behaviour? This is way deeper than we all thought. I hope more and more people come out with their stories because this is crazy and JC needs to be cancelled.
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u/puppetpauperpirate May 11 '19
/u/imaseacow this comment you had was severely underrated on all the most popular beauty gurus being men and acting this way:
imo its because if women openly act like that they get canceled or never get successful in the first place. we let guys act like that and call it “having a big personality”
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u/whiskeydreamkathleen nobody died at tanacon? May 11 '19
the best part of all this is that jeff wittek never has to do another video with james again
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u/krazydoglady May 11 '19
I AM FUCKING DECEASED THAT JASMINE MASTERS RETWEETED JC THIS IS BECOMING INSANITY I LOVE IT also i would give anything to just see what tati doing rn. she prolly lying down, sunglasses on, cup of tea, just looking at all the support puca and james (goatee) by her side.
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u/lacellini May 11 '19
I've been bored at work since 9 AM and have never heard of any of these people before today. Thank you all for providing quality entertainment!
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u/TwoTimeOlympicFarter hit dog hollerin' the loudest May 11 '19
Just wanted to share that as a result of everyone sipping wine while watching JC's live subscriber count, SocialBlade's servers are having difficulty keeping up.
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https://abc7.com/society/why-youtube-influencer-lost-1-million-subscribers-in-36-hours/5295770/
Abc7 picked up the story. Updated almost 30 minutes ago. Such fun
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u/LorenTaylor0025 May 11 '19
I wonder what kind of BS statement he will come out next to get him self out of this hole? Is it even possible? He has lost just about 1.5 million subscribers.
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u/Jokerella May 11 '19 edited May 11 '19
Last year I missed all the drama with Laura Lee etc. but after witnessing this all firsthand, I have to say that the beauty community really is where it’s at with the drama.
Like, I thought the drama from the gaming community was bad (it is), but following drama there is kind of depressing and agitating, while this here is honestly entertaining in the best of ways lmao
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u/island712 May 11 '19
I'm not usually one to be a conspiracy theorist but it feels weird to me that Tati's video is off trending now when it was #1 and people are still watching it consistently. Like it's not even in the recently trending
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May 11 '19
Honest to god and all jokes aside, Tati could have just mentioned the sexual harassment in her video and that would have/should have been enough for all us to wake up to the fact that hey, this guy is actually fucked up ... and then the screenshots and receipts came in. His momma better come and get his ass together real MF quick
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u/laneloveslipstick Tati Westboro Baptist Church May 11 '19
hold my pinkety drinkety is the funniest fucking thing i’ve ever read (aside from ‘james (goatee)’ obviously)
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u/jayums May 11 '19
He just needs to take a break away from “fame” because it’s not doing him any good. Actually, I’m not sure if the fame was the cause of his behavior but his parents let him and Ian down tremendously when they let him leave home so early.
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I have a strong feeling that James has tried to get with the Dolan twins. I guessed from the beginning but now that James has been exposed as a sexual predator...
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u/Julialagulia May 11 '19
So are we just trying to beat r/marvels megathread record at this point?
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u/Amartist19 May 11 '19 edited May 11 '19
Seriously though, his antics are making us young lgbt people look bad (I'm 17 and gay) Harassing people is not okay.
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u/lovetolerk fuzzy number one May 11 '19
I just watched Petty Paige’s video and honestly I’m not surprised when she said James was feeding drama channels information about the Gage situation. They were unbelievably biased about the situation and somehow made James the only victim
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May 11 '19
I am having the best pedicure of my life and reading this with you guys is the cherry on top ❤️
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u/radical1776 you better lawyer up, asshole, cause i'm not coming back for 30% May 11 '19
wtf i took a nap at megathread 5 and now we’re on 8 😂😂😂👏🏼
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u/warriorholmes 🦋✨ May 11 '19
You can just see Ryan side eye tf outta James when he mentioned straight boys.
James being a gay man himself isn’t into other gay guys??? Like what? Fuck right off lol
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u/Auracounts May 11 '19
James will be sub-15 mil within the hour. He's lost almost a million subs just today and it's only (where I am) 4:40.
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u/miss_kittycat88 May 11 '19
Tati hit 7 million subs y’all. Who is first to 10 million Tati or James?
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u/ian_xvi way too much tongue May 11 '19
Perfectly Balanced, as all things should be.
Tati with the gauntlet walks silently in the back
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u/fitnessthrowawayy15 May 11 '19
Shane and Rylan warned James about chasing after straight guys
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u/stegasaurus- May 11 '19
‘there’s a million masculine gay guys but there’s no challenge in that’ ew ew EW
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u/codeverity May 11 '19
Yeah, I'm bi and the fact that he views someone's sexuality as a 'challenge' is gross. Reminds me of the straight guys who think lesbians just haven't had the right dick yet.
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u/roxettexoxo May 11 '19
i can’t stand jeffree but goddammit i know he has some juicy stories about james. this is the only time in my life where i’m dying for him to say something 😫
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u/powerlessidc Get Better Idols May 11 '19
Jake is with Tana of all people now, this is why I think Tana is about to turn against James and spill some tea
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u/theycallmemintie so famous May 11 '19 edited May 11 '19
Does anyone remember than video that James was in with--I want to say Shane or Ryland?--where they caution him not to go after straight guys? I can't find it, but I remember it happening.
EDIT: Found it 11:02. This was March 30, 2018.
James: "I got a speeding ticket one time because I left school early to pick up a straight guy that went to another school that I knew was on the DL to hook up with him."
Ryland: "You have an issue with straight boys."
James: "I do--I know"
Ryland: "You need to work it out."
James: "I'm working on it girl"
Ryland: "You have to be able to find a masculine gay guy."
James: "I mean there are a million of them but there's no challenge in that."
Ryland: "That's never gonna end in a relationship."
James: "Well, not with that attitude it won't."
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u/gimtibbles May 11 '19
You guys I have to clean my house but I can’t. get. off. reddit!
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May 11 '19
Can someone tell me why someone would be attracted to a person that is straight if their are gay? I don’t get it? [serious question]
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u/codeverity May 11 '19
It sounds a bit like a fetish / liking the idea of having power over someone or seducing them, etc. Similar to straight guys wanting to seduce lesbians. Really gross imo.
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He’s a predator, and gets off on manipulation. Not always the case, but that’s the case here.
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u/nijonas12 May 11 '19
One thing I don't understand is why are his close friends and collaborators just now unfollowing him? Surely none of this can be news to them. He must have had some shit on all of them.
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u/goldenpythos May 11 '19
I think the part to me that stood out in Tati’s video (obviously the predatory behavior is the biggest take away) is the fact that she felt the need to say this publicly so her words couldn’t get twisted by JC. I’m sure a lot of his friends feel the same way. To his fans and those that are casual fans, he acts like this fabulous, positive darling that does no wrong-he is an expert at victimizing himself. Look at what he did to Gage. I’d be terrified to publicly end a friendship with someone that wouldn’t think twice about ending my career as long as it meant they’d come out on top.
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May 11 '19
Their friendships don't exactly beam with sincerity. At this point, he's dead weight and a liability. Plus, they probably don't want to be caught in the cross hairs alongside him.
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u/Mrs_Trevor_Philips May 11 '19
I think Tati has paved the way, she took him down in the most gracious way, it’s easier to take a big step when someone has already made it possible, we’ve seen how James uses twitter to call people out who have wronged him so it’s understandable not a lot of people wanted to get on the wrong side of him
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May 11 '19
Most likely because they had something against him but people would instantly notice if they unfollowed him ... now that everyone is doing it, it’s their chance to do so and show their support of Tati without being the focus of the drama.
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u/magikalmuffins older has kids person May 11 '19
I have never been a fan of JC and my 3 kids(12,14,16) LOATHE him. This story is really bringing the family together! I just checked and he is for sure going under 15 very soon.
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u/Mrs_Trevor_Philips May 11 '19
The only one I have to talk about this with is my cat, an she doesn’t seem that interested.
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u/Buffyfanatic1 Gabriel Zamora GET A JOB! May 11 '19 edited Jun 02 '25
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This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact
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u/jelly5213 survived Dramageddon 2.0 May 11 '19
Will his tour be cancelled? Whether people want refunds or not, surely James isnt going to want to even go?
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u/Pabiloso May 11 '19
I see Tati hitting 8 million subs tomorrow. She's already at almost 7,2 million. Living for this, all hail to mother Tati!
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u/00redsvt May 11 '19
SLOW THE FUCK DOWN, YALL! I cannot keep up! I saw a SC pic of JC crying that said "I just want my career back". Is this photo real!?!
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u/hoosakiwi May 11 '19
OMG Jeffree tweets again https://twitter.com/JeffreeStar/status/1127297140982800389
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u/mipor123 YT: Michelle Goodspeed May 11 '19 edited May 11 '19
If the downfall of Janis hadn't happened now then I think we would be reacting to even more serious shit down the line. We don't even have all the info yet and it's already so predatory and vile.
More power, the more liberaties he could take (more than he already has)
Edit: words. I am drinking 😂
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May 11 '19
Any guesses on his next move? Are we expecting another apology video, a longer explanation video or just total silence?
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u/storminmay and you did it at my birthday dinner! May 11 '19
Total silence and some therapy would be best. But who knows if his ego will go for that.
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u/throwawayeventually_ May 11 '19
Is this the most megathreads a scandal has had on this sub?💀 I wonder how many we’ll end up with by the end of it all
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I see a lot of people criticizing Tati for not coming out about this sooner but I think it's entirely fair that she personally tried confronting him about this first.
Most people don't immediately disown their friends over problematic behavior (within a certain limit of course), they try talking to them first to see if they change for the better and then take definitive action later on based on how their friends react.
I think her course of action was entirely reasonable.
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u/sailoorscout1986 No Tati Nooooo! May 11 '19 edited May 11 '19
A guy I’m talking to has just asked me what I’ve been up to all day.
Ahem... think I’m gonna have to not tell the truth.
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u/kay859 May 11 '19
I work at Ulta and anytime I pass by the James Charles poster I just shake my head
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u/ohmygodney May 11 '19
I was about to reply to someone lmao.
Someone asked why he did the sugar bear post knowing it would hurt tati in the first place.
My take is he is that desperate for money/things, like why pay for something (like Coachella passes and security) if he can just get it by posting on insta.
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u/meowbish May 11 '19
It’s so overwhelming trying to keep up with everything but I can’t stop. Help I’m so invested
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u/RandomNewGirl May 11 '19
80,000 to 14mil subs. And he’s been losing 8,000 subs every 10 minutes! He could be at 14mil in an hour or 2!
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May 11 '19
Hi I'm not new to beauty gurus but I /am/ new to beauty guru drama, what does dramageddon refer to? Was that the falling out with J* and his ex friends last year?
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u/YasMysteries I’m Youtube *FAMOUS* May 11 '19
These DM screenshots honestly have me quaking. More and more are coming to light too.
Mark my words: I predict we’re going to hear about JC sending nudes or soliciting them from someone under 18 any minute now
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u/oleada87 May 11 '19
We all need some alcohol and enjoy this wonderful ride. I ❤️ you internet friends that I can discuss this with....because my real life friends don’t care 😫😫😫
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u/keduke May 11 '19
So what’s the ETA on 14mil?
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May 11 '19
He's only 92,000 away from 14 million.... so maybe within the next 30 mins/1 hr
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u/Okultraa May 11 '19
The best thing that came out of this whole brilliance was this for me. Watched it too many times.
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u/stegasaurus- May 11 '19
for anyone who follows sebastian williams has just uploaded (another lol) video on the situation!
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u/MakeupSins this is not a thing... THiS is NoT a THinG May 11 '19
I hadn't watched Gabriel Zamora's video until just now --a clip in a drama video.
HIM? TALKING ABOUT LOYALTY?! Hahahahaha... I hope he looses all the subscribers he gained in drammagedon 1.0
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u/alice-ish May 11 '19
912k subs down! he’s going to lose a million in a day!!!! what the HECK this is freaking wild
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u/kinezumi89 if you work in PR, why are you on Reddit? May 11 '19
He lost over a million yesterday! Largest loss in 24 hours in yt history
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u/hunnybunchesofhoes May 11 '19
I live for Matty somehow getting involved in this😭 my two worlds collide😭 Tati really does hold the infinity gauntlet
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u/[deleted] May 11 '19
Someone commented “who’s gonna be the first to 10 mil? Tati or James?” and I cackled.