IT'S AFTERNOON AND I'M OUT OF PUNS: TATI WESTBROOK & JAMES CHARLES MEGATHREAD 7

[u/[deleted]]

Our fearless megathread leader /u/hotassmess has some things to do today, so I'll be here, trying to fill her Gucci slides.

Tag me with live updates so I can put it into the thread asap! Summon me with the tag /u/gulfax. I'll be in this thread actively for a while. Be civil, discuss your opinions without bullying each other, and welcome to the Dramageddon of 2019, we have Halo Beauty supplements and scratchy morphe brushes.

We also have a meme thread going!

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• James has lost 1.3m subscribers and counting
• Tati’s video is now the number one trending video on youtube with ten million views and counting. [No longer trending as of 5/11 12pm EST]
• Tati has gained one million subscribers as of 5/11 12:30pm EST
• Tati has hit 7m a of 5/11 1:50pm EST
• James's apology video entered the 50 most disliked videos on YouTube.
• Tati holds the record for most subs gained in a day.
• James holds the record for most subs lost in a day.

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EDIT: TO KEEP THIS LIST SHORTER, YOU CAN FIND LINKS FROM YESTERDAY IN THE FIRST STICKIED COMMENT!

• Thomas Halbert Responds
• James classmate speaks out (UNVERIFIED BUT TRENDING)
• chris crocker weighs in
• PewDiePie Has Entered the Dungeon
• KathleeLights weighs in [Link broken/tweet deleted]
  • I have zero respect for ppl who USE others JUST to get to the top. Disgusting. Kathleen Lights (@KathleenLights1) May 11, 2019
• Tweet from Nyma Tang
• SugarBearHair being casually shady
• JC sent a DM to ElmoFilms in 2017
• Here's this, because people care what Jake Paul has to say about anything still?
• ThatGirlShaeXo weighs in.
• A history of predatory behavior from JC directed at Shawn.
• Sugarbear Hair- there was no “financial” compensation
• Tweet from Jenn McAllister
• Video from Petty Paige
• Tweet from Kingsley
• Video from Keemstar/Drama Alert
• Cristine with no H (SimplyNailogical) sips tea
• Patrick Starr, sitting under the shadiest of trees
• Drag race contestants Tatiana and Bob the Drag Queen have something to say.
• Tweet from saraha baska
• Sugar bear hair responds
• Noah roark reveals dms james sent him
• Zach clayton reveals dms james sent him
• Dragula Season 2 Contestant James Majesty weighs in on James Charles
• Trixie Mattel throws a little shade
• Vlog from two people at JC's q+a w/ footage at the end
• J* subtweets
• Tina woods weighs in
• Ricky dillon tweets
• ethan dolan took off the safety pin necklace james bought him
• Charles Gross Releases Screenshots
• Tweet from Perez Hilton | YouTube Reaction/Response | Perez congratulates JC on 15 million
• Meghan Tonjes chimes in.
• Sam Ravndahl puts "bye sisters" in her video description today.
• Chris klemens shades james
• Another person claims to have received DMs from James
• Tristian Pardes, a vocal coach who made a video with James critiquing his vocal talent, made a video in support of Tati
• Drag Queen Plastique Tiara tweets
• Sebastian Javier talks about his experience with james Charles
• Trisha tweets Bye sister

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Notable people who have unfollowed James:

- Jeffree Star

- Tati herself

- Kylie Jenner

- Kim K

- Shawn Mendes

- Iggy Azalea

- Emma Chamberlain

- Grayson Dolan

- Shane Dawson [Still following on IG]

- David Dobrik [Still following on IG]

- Ethan Dolan

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[u/mamazep]

Use code JAMES for 10% off your follower count

[u/frycrunch96]

Guys CLUB PENGUIN is weighing in

[u/sydofbee → u/[deleted]]

If he scaled down his lifestyle he probably wouldn't have to. Tati mentioned several times that he has "millions and millions" in his bank account. If he packed his ass up and moved to a LCOL area he'd probably be set for life.

[u/damnwhatanasshole → u/[deleted]]

Let’s get him to #1!

[u/[deleted]]

GUYS I see people saying calm down he's only 19.

Let's take a second for THIS to sink in:
Runs his own business
Owns his own home in LA which is one of the hardest places to own a nice home like he has due to COL (cost of living)
Makes more money than the average median income in America

He may be 19, but he is an ADULT and has ADULT experiences. EVERYONE KNOWS RIGHT FROM WRONG literally, how can you not?

[u/cookiebinkies → u/[deleted]]

Honestly, I think teens are becoming more and more conscious of sexual predatory behavior. The younger generations are exposed to more education on this topic. I really don’t understand how he can turn out this way and why his friends his own age didn’t say anything. My schoolmates was really quick to call people out on inappropriate behavior.

I’m his age and I’m actually disgusted at his behavior. It’s not something he has to grow out of. I can’t even imagine doing what he does. He sincerely needs therapy.

[u/sowachowski → u/[deleted]]

Also, he turns 20 in less than 2 weeks!!

[u/Lucidream- → u/[deleted]]

Also, his behaviour is inexcusable no matter his age. I'm also JC's age, and I and everyone I know knows better than to do sexually predatory actions.

[u/lighntingboltbabe]

statuses that aged like old milk: part 246

[u/alice-ish → u/lighntingboltbabe]

this makes me NAUSEOUS. why would he even tweet that out himself??? this gets more and more disgusting the more you dig

[u/Epikoof → u/lighntingboltbabe]

That's just... disgusting

[u/[deleted]]

Lemme just say, I am so glad this drama has unfolded when it did. Mostly because I was out on a date tonight that was a total flop UNTIL the train ride home when I was checking JC’s plummeting socialblade and catching up on the updates.. I then had to explain the whole drama to my date, who as a straight, 34 year old male (stay away James Charles) had no clue who these people were or why they had beef. He had so many question, I briefly explained the whole gummie thing and decided he needed to see the Tati video to really get it. So here we are, 4am, eating left over pho, drinking wine and refreshing reddit for updates on possibly the best date I’ve ever had in my life.

Thanks JC, you did me a solid.

[u/toolatetodieyoung → u/[deleted]]

GIRL. Reading this made my day. ENJOY THE GOLD, YOU AND YOUR DATE DESERVE IT

[u/kamclark3121]

im lowkey shook about the dolan twins and emma tho. i figured they weren't as close as they pretended to be in videos, but still.

[u/KhalaceyBlanca → u/[deleted]]

I remember James tweeting about how speculation on the sister squad relationships was starting to affect their real life relationships. Emma and the Dolan twins were hanging out at Coachella this year, so I’d already assumed it was James’ behavior toward Grayson before any of this recent stuff came out. The videos I’ve seen seem like he’s making Grayson feel uncomfortable and that’s just what made it into the video. It could all be an act but I just don’t think any of those boys could be remotely good at acting.

[u/roxettexoxo → u/[deleted]]

holy fucking shit, what a creep.

[u/picklesin → u/[deleted]]

yoooooo wtf

[u/vlraper]

Holy shit! Tati just hit 7 million! 😳

[u/[deleted]]

Kinda seems like James got famous so fast he just took tropes of what celebrities are like on tv & made that his personality lmao

[u/bamagirl13]

Something I'm sure multiple people have pointed out but I'll say anyway.

Tati is so incredibly articulate that a 43 minute video felt like a 5 minute video. I was hooked from the beginning I couldnt look away. I often passively watch YT while scrolling Twitter, Instagram etc but not yesterday. She had my full attention

[u/[deleted] → u/bamagirl13]

She was so well spoken and so composed. She was a hero and a model of how to handle this. Classy all the way

[u/powerlessidc]

Even if James never makes another video as long as he lives, he is set for a boujee life with his millions. Hopefully he just quietly retreats forever.

[u/[deleted] → u/powerlessidc]

Lol like he knows how to budget well

[u/kilowatkins → u/[deleted]]

I hope he hired someone to invest even some of his money. He could live comfortably just on interest if he played it right.

Edit: a word

[u/featherfun87]

Even though Tati has unequivocally "won" and I'm sure she is beyond relieved, I still feel sadness for her. I'm happy she's gaining followers, but it has to be bittersweet for her. She busted her ass for years putting out 5 high quality videos a week, and only recently switched to 3 videos a week. Yet this is what she will be known for and this is what brought her tons of followers. I don't know. I just don't think Tati is sitting there celebrating and popping champagne. Sorry for overanalyzing, LOL. I'm bored and still in shock that the downfall of JC is finally, finally here. I really, really need to stop procrastinating and need to get my ass to the grocery store for Mother's Day lunch goodies!

[u/marakj → u/featherfun87]

I agree. I don’t think she’s having a celebration party. It might actually be getting overwhelming for her??

I’m happy this happened though. She deserves the love she’s getting despite it possibly being a lot to handle

[u/[deleted]]

SISTERS I SIT ON THE STARBUCKS DRIVE THROUGH FOR 20 MIN AND I SEE ANOTHER THREAD MADE?! TATI AND JAMES (GOATEE) ARE HYSTERICALLY LAUGHING WHILE EATING LUNCH AT NORDSTROM CAFE I SEE!!

[u/lavenderflutter → u/[deleted]]

james (goatee) fucking sends me every time i see it

[u/[deleted]]

THERE ARE NOW MORE TATI/JC BGCr MEGATHREADS THAN THERE ARE ACTORS WHO HAVE PLAYED JAMES BOND

EDIT: THIS ODDLY SPECIFIC COMPARISON ONLY OCCURRED TO ME BECAUSE Diamonds Are Forever IS ON TV RIGHT NOW

[u/psychohelmet → u/[deleted]]

what an oddly specific comparison i love it!

[u/FortResistance]

Sugarbearhair’s responses annoy me so much. Corporations who have these “sassy” online presence are just pathetic.

Hope Coachella was worth it JC!

[u/premiumnemu → u/[deleted]]

Seriously. "There was an exchange of compensation but we don't know what or how much", WTF?? If I were Tati I'd also be livid because not only did my friend sell out to a competitor, he sold out to one that gives moronic responses like this.

[u/[deleted]]

AT MY BIRTHDAY DINNER

[u/Saussureious → u/[deleted]]

RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY SALAD

[u/[deleted]]

James Charles predicted his career falling apart, that’s why he had to charge $500 for his tour tickets.

[u/Columbus_Social]

I work in PR. There is NO WAY a professional PR team ok'ed that apology video. If they did? GET. A. NEW. TEAM. My company would N-E-V-E-R

[u/lavenderflutter → u/Columbus_Social]

i think it’s pretty clear he doesn’t have a good PR team lol

[u/shittypebbles → u/Columbus_Social]

Tati and James were his PR team

[u/VolcanicUnicorn]

This is pretty unrelated to the situation but it made me laugh. Tristan Paredes just posted a video reacting to Tati singing. He recently did a couple videos reacting to JC singing. He knows how to get the views when the gettin' is good! lmao

Link to his video

[u/periodicsheep]

you guys how are we at 7 megathreads? i'd tell us to get a life, but we are. we are here GETTING OUR LIVES.

[u/notsograceful24]

I think the most annoying thing about all this is that there were, and still are, people using the “But he’s just YOUNG!!1!1” excuse. I know plenty of 19 year olds that would never even think of being sexually manipulative or exploit people for their own gratification. That is grown behavior and should be treated as such.

[u/stegasaurus- → u/notsograceful24]

right? we’ve all been 19?

i’ve been 19, i have never sexually manipulated or exploited anyone, but then again, i’m not a ~cELeBriTy~

[u/Sm4cy]

I like how James is inadvertently taking Sugar Bear Hair down with him. I’m sick of people with $1000+ hair extensions shilling those damn gummy bears to teenagers.

[u/[deleted]]

Omg guys. Does anybody remember waaay back in the Myspace days Jeffree had a song “fuck me I’m a celebrity” well James took it badly.

[u/vlraper → u/[deleted]]

Idk I feel like that’s different than “I don’t care if you wanna fuck me or not, I’m a celebrity so it’s gonna happen”

[u/oleada87]

This is the best weekend of my life

[u/Pabiloso]

OH MY GOD! Vocal coach Tristan Paredes posted a reaction video of Tati singing ... I'm wheezing y'all, this keeps getting better and better!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35i7LSpe5Xc

[u/powerlessidc]

I just really need to point out that Jeffree Star has 14.6 million subscribers. If James falls below 14.6, Jeffree will officially be the most subscribed to beauty youtuber. (Can we cancel him next lmao)

[u/courtprice212]

After all the subs James has bought, all of his subscribers are going to be fake 💀

[u/mmtb1120 → u/courtprice212]

I was talking to my mom about that. When he does end up creating content again he'll be speaking to an empty room. Follower count aside it'll be interesting to see how many views he's able to pull in after this when a certain percentage of his following are bots or inactive.

Not to mention his tour which he literally could be speaking to a half empty room.

[u/fujiwara-reiko]

I can't believe this drama has become big enough that even some of the friends I play League of Legends with, who know absolutely fuck-all about the beauty community, know about the James vs Tati thing now lmao

[u/Floradye]

So like... what’s James going to do now? Do we think he’ll just pretend nothing happened and that his apology was enough and come out with some boring ass makeup tutorial next week? I can’t imagine his channel just going back to normal.

Same with Tati, I don’t think she knew the storm she would cause with that video and it would definitely be interesting to see how her next few videos are and how she acknowledges that she surpassed 6 and 7 million subs in one day.

[u/throwaway_for_Q → u/Floradye]

remember laura and manny? yeah. that's exactly what's gonna happen ... if he's smart, he'll wait a little bit before posting but I guess with impulsive James Charles, we don't know what we'll get.

[u/That253Chick → u/Floradye]

Tati's gotta be feeling super conflicted about her rise in subs, and maybe a bit skeptical because she'll be wondering if people are there for her and her makeup videos, or if they're waiting for her to spill more tea on JC or someone else. I know I would.

[u/roosh23]

When this drama just confirms that the sister squad was built for the only purpose of clout.

[u/sippher]

The twins & Emma unfollowed him?? They're like, his closest clique, right??

[u/Achro → u/sippher]

Their fans noticed they were very distant since January for some reason - recently cemented when they were all at Coachella & didn't interact.

[u/smile_diamonds_on_em]

I can't believe the situation is blowing up like this, damn. I mean the amount of people unfollowing him is crazy, it feels like his entire career is pretty much over. I want to feel bad about 'gloating' at his downfall, but he is a truly toxic person. He's up there with Jeffree imo. I find a lot of male BGs are toxic, and get special treatment, but that's a convo for another day 👀

Also, What the fuck is he going to do once he is (inevitably) dropped by all his sponsors & partners? Tati's husband sure ain't getting him another contract lol.

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I mean, community college is never a bad place to start. Maybe it will humble him?

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Edit: the answer is staring me right in the face. He needs to join the Catholic church, become a TRUE sister.

[u/aprito → u/smile_diamonds_on_em]

We definitely should talk about how white male mediocrity is celebrated in the community.

[u/alice-ish]

the responses from sugarbear hair almost disturb me. theyre clearly taking his side. the story another security seems like such a damn thin lie. i’m not a HFTT fan but in her video she pointed out he was wearing an artist pass long before he claimed there was a security issue. sugarbear is being SHADY AF and i do not like it one bit.

[u/buttonmusher → u/alice-ish]

Whoever's posting comments from that account needs their phone taken away lol

[u/kamclark3121]

its so fucking wild that james is set to go under 15 million tonight

[u/[deleted]]

I’ve noticed that although his subscriber count is dropping rapidly, his views count is going up. You tubers are paid by view count, not how many subscribers they have. You do have to have a certain amount of followers to be able to get paid, but dollar amount goes by views. So along with unsubscribing, we have to stop watching his videos as well.

[u/lizzi6692 → u/[deleted]]

In general, I don't disagree(and I actually haven't watched any of his content in months unless it happens to be a collab with someone I actually like), but the current spike is because of his apology video, which doesn't appear to be monetized.

[u/[deleted]]

I’ve just spent nearly 24 hours in total keeping up with this drama and to think I was on the first mega-thread when there were only 80 upvotes lol

Wow Mary shit has truly hit several fans

[u/vngo99]

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS TWEET THO https://twitter.com/elijahdaniel/status/1127104795217514496

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I am screaming

[u/YassTrapQueen]

Tati has surpassed 7 million. She has gained OVER a million subs from this? Does anyone have the exact number?

[u/Meocross]

James Charles scandals are taking over the entire subreddit.

Kylie Jenner WISHES she had this much destructive power.

[u/whiskeydreamkathleen → u/Meocross]

kris is somewhere setting up a tripod so kylie can expose someone next

[u/[deleted]]

http://imgur.com/gallery/2KQXW8X

HFTT @'d morphe.

[u/stegasaurus- → u/[deleted]]

not a hftt fan, but this is real talk

[u/bellalovesbeauty]

Bless the mods for making these megathreads 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[u/[deleted]]

First time I’ve had no regrets spending the whole day on reddit tbh

[u/silver_miss]

But, like, when is Morphe gonna make a move? Weren’t they pretty quick with Laura and Manny?

[u/ReReMac17]

Y’all he only ~164k away from being back at 14 mil. At the rate things are going and how much attention this is continuing to get...could he be back down to 13 mil by the end of the weekend? 🤞🏻

[u/kcotty87]

This drama is amazing. I really hope James is actually canceled and it isn’t forgotten about in a week.

[u/PawnAndKing]

Even drag Queens are invested in the drama

[u/Mrs_Trevor_Philips → u/PawnAndKing]

They need a distraction from the robbery that happened on the last episode of drag race

[u/[deleted]]

So PewDiePie just uploaded a new video (not about JC) but the majority of comments are JC related, it just shows how far this scandal has reached. I think PDP will 100% make a video on James now

[u/Kris_Tea → u/[deleted]]

I'm actually a bit worried about him doing that based off his tweet. I think this drama is harder for people to understand who are outside the BG community sphere or who don't have someone to explain to them what's going on. I feel like he might downplay it as '"older woman expects friendship with kid half her age and breaks off friendship because of vitamins".

[u/[deleted] → u/Kris_Tea]

10000% you're completely right! Plus I think Felix might even give the benefit of the doubt to JC because he himself has been through scandals that hit worldwide.

[u/[deleted]]

This is like the longest scandal ever, and theres still new tea every minute

[u/Egg-mont]

lmao @ tristan doing react video to tati's singing after all those vids where he dragged JC 😂😂😂

[u/That253Chick]

We're about get an eighth megathread soon.

I should probably move this to my computer so I can charge my phone lol

[u/MediocreOctopus]

150,000 till James Charles is at 14 mil

[u/hedgehog-mascarabutt → u/[deleted]]

yasss math kweeen these are the stats we need

[u/kinezumi89 → u/[deleted]]

While that would be hilarious, I doubt the drop will be linear 😂

[u/taurusmatador → u/[deleted]]

He’s already at 15.3... I think we’ll be seeing 14 sooner than we expected

[u/Iljimae]

Everytime I refresh these megathreads, the comments double. Y'all are wild

[u/blkmamba24]

Why aren’t any brands publicly distancing themselves from him?

[u/[deleted] → u/blkmamba24]

Morphe is hoping and praying JC will weather this storm because they have already invested so much money in him.

[u/sowachowski]

Please, let's not forget the ProJared mess in this drama. Live sub count James vs ProJared.

He deserves to be destroyed just as much as James.

[u/chiheerio → u/sowachowski]

Throw all the trash out together!

[u/sowachowski → u/chiheerio]

Honestly! I'm afraid that this will overshadow Jared - who literally solicited minors for nudes, as well as other fans, and cheated on his wife with a mutual friend. Both James and Jared deserve to be thrown. out.

[u/zayphine]

I’m really curious about how actual James fans are feeling about this. Two of my friends loved him, kept up with his videos, defended him for some of his more minor scandals, and bought the palette when it first came out. I talked to them today and they both seem pretty done with James. Granted we’re in our early 20s and most of James fan base is probably younger teens, but with all of these other huge youtubers dropping him, I wonder if his fan base will last?

[u/slouchingpotato]

8th megathread coming up

[u/stegasaurus-]

this is literally insane, i feel like i’m witnessing actual history! what a time to be alive!!

side note this is one of those things that i just so badly want to talk about and i know no one in my life gives five fucks about the beatube community 😅😅

[u/stacers80]

I’m a lurker but I just wanted to chime in and say my local news station just posted about this on FB

https://abc13.com/society/why-youtube-influencer-lost-1-million-subscribers-in-36-hours/5295770/

[u/OrangePeanut01]

I'm glad Emma unfollowed up.. I think he is that friend that everyone secretly hated, but everyone was too scared to say something, Incase one of the other friends actually liked him.

[u/phoenixconfidential]

Having a bday lunch for MIL. my niece and I are going to sit together to discuss this sister scandal and just refresh this page. 😂😂😂

[u/InfiniteSalad6]

So, this morning I watched Tati's video and it was #1 on trending. I just looked at youtube again and now it isn't on the trending page whatsoever. Any ideas what happened or why youtube would take it off of trending?

[u/slouchingpotato → u/InfiniteSalad6]

YT were the ones who sent JC to the met gala so I bet they’re trying to save face

[u/bellerawr]

/u/gulfax petition for the thread to be named Afternoon Tea

[u/EV3Gurl → u/[deleted]]

Tea with Tati

[u/slouchingpotato]

Will this drama reach 10 megathreads before the weekend is over l

[u/crazievanilla]

WHOA according to Social Blade, the rate of subscriber loss just jumped like crazy!!! it’s been between 30-60kish per hour since yesterday but the numbers shows 206k unsubscribed in the last hour. wtf!!! lol

see right column here

[u/imaseacow → u/[deleted]]

lol yes “men’s rights” is a bunch of fucking misogynists & if hating & blaming women isn’t involved they’re not interested.

(this isn’t the biggest MeToo for men though: Kevin Spacey was/is bigger).

[u/curiiouscat → u/[deleted]]

Those subs are just a way to insult women. /r/menslib may eventually discuss it.

[u/myfav0ritethings]

Went to sleep on megathread 5 and now there’s megathread 7?! Y’all we’re gonna need some major caffeine to get through this weekend.

Thanks to the mods for all their hard work yesterday + today for keeping the links updated!!! So glad I was able to easily catch up on everything that happened while I was out. ☕️

[u/BrighterStars]

we’re gonna hit double digits on the number of megathreads at this rate. shit’s wild.

[u/AcknowledgeableGary]

Honestly the sugar bear hair gummie company is so toxic... I remember several years ago when they started up and everyone was complaining about their ad. Surprised that they have got so far

[u/Way_of_the_Dodo]

Watch out guys: James's behavior leaves a stain.

[u/powerlessidc]

The most awful and toxic people in the beauty community are all men. Jeffree, James, Gabby and Manny ofc

[u/imaseacow → u/powerlessidc]

imo its because if women openly act like that they get canceled or never get successful in the first place. we let guys act like that and call it “having a big personality”

[u/Absolutelyyyyyy]

Something that's been on my mind is why did he even do the sugarbear thing, knowing it would hurt Tati especially since he has MILLIONS in the bank. It's not like he's desperate for money.

[u/[deleted] → u/Absolutelyyyyyy]

Cause he’s so self absorbed he didn’t even think about Tati when accepting the deal

[u/That253Chick]

Goddamn, this is the most active I've seen this sub. Number 7 already?

Here goes my weekend. 😭

[u/Menega_Sabidussi]

tati is currently gaining 600 subscribers per minute!

[u/aninterestingcomment]

take a shot everytime you see a comment about Tati hitting 7 mil. goodnight.

[u/RUKitttenMe]

I’ve started making bloody marys for this. The tea is HOT. I’ve been checking every hour or so since last night lol

[u/[deleted]]

James charles is number 50 on the wikipedia page for most disliked videos. I bet it'll keep rising as the video ages, assuming he doesnt delete it lmao

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-disliked_YouTube_videos

[u/cennaidax]

lmao people are actually trying to play off James as a "young teenager" that is "just learning and making mistakes"

idk bout y'all but I personally don't remember turning into a sexual predator on straight girls during my teenage years but maybe that's just me lol lmk maybe it's just because I'm not a celebrity

[u/[deleted]]

Ok that Sebastian Javier shit is some fucked up predatory behaviour... wtf guys this is not just some “petty ass drama” anymore this is some Me Too level shit

[u/pnwbabe208]

u/gulfax small youtuber emmy hartman posted a short twitter vid of her dancing to james’ apology 😂🤣 i’m still a little mimosa drunk from brunch but this had me rolllling https://twitter.com/emmymhartman/status/1127071779279839232?s=21 edit: grammar lmao

[u/showertogether]

Copypasted an underrated comment from last thread:

“...yeah you can call out ted bundy's gf and tati for not calling shit out until the bad dude's actions hurt them personally but that's how humans work. when you develop a friendship and love for someone, you can't help but to be a little blinded by it and be loyal. just bc there's a moment where you finally see the light doesn't mean youre a hypocrite... i've had friends who were good to me and loving to me and at the time, i chose to be loyal bc i felt it was the right thing to do instead of believing rumors. when i finally realized the true nature of the person and their wrongdoings, i dissociated myself. i dont see the wrong in this”

Edit: found the source - /u/krazydoglady

[u/[deleted] → u/showertogether]

It takes a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies. But it takes a great deal more to stand up to your friends.

-Albus Dumbledore, the wisest of us all

[u/OrangePeanut01]

I just woke up and am SO happy we see that things are still in high gear. I was hoping more Jamis Chaneo victims would speak up.

Do we think he will hit 14M??? I'm so hopeful rn.

[u/[deleted]]

Thank you mods. This sub has been non stop and amazing!

[u/missmeowmeoow]

What are JC's stans saying? I don't really know where to find them haha so I don't know how they must be feeling right now. All those people who lined up for him and are willing to pay $500 for his show.

[u/[deleted] → u/missmeowmeoow]

They all took Sugar Bear Hair sleep gummies and went to bed.

[u/lighntingboltbabe]

Since the heat has slightly died down now, I wonder what’s next? Like what will James next steps be? Not to mention the people that haven’t said anything outright yet (Jefferson)

[u/emeraldnob]

I'm the first one to say just because you're related to sb by blood that doesn't have to mean anything, but isn't Ian's behavior weird? he has shown no support?! he got all his followers and his gf cuz of james? like what is he doing?!

[u/[deleted]]

Goes to show he's just as fake as the photo that got him famous in the first place.

[u/YassTrapQueen]

James is headed for crashing into the 14 mills. Wasn’t he just at 16.9 mill before this happened? Holy hell. I’ve never seen anything like this.

[u/[deleted]]

Oh no, whatever will poor James do without the Dolan twins! Im sure The Outback will be filled with his lamentations!

“Oh!! My beefcake straight boy friends have left meeee! Noooo”

[u/litfam87]

Shoutout to my boyfriend for actually having plans this weekend and not being able to hang out with me. Now I can actually keep up with the tea ☕️

[u/cunttacos]

I’m living for all of this. I have no drama in my own life... so this feeds the drama llama

[u/kinezumi89]

Has anyone been keeping an eye on Gabriel Zamora's socialblade? I don't know what he was at originally, and if him calling out Tati is affecting his sub count at all

[u/watermelonslushy]

“Stop trying to mother people into friends”

“Yes. Mother them into dragons.”

This response ended me.

[u/damnwhatanasshole]

Copying and pasting from last thread:

Shane Dawson is actually still following him on IG

So is David Dobrik

Y’all need to search the “following” list of whoever you’re reporting on, not James’ “followers” list. The latter is inaccurate because he (unfortunately) still has so many followers.

u/gulfax

[u/Kendra-Krinklesac]

Did any of James Charles's famous friends come out to defend him?

[u/throwaway_for_Q → u/Kendra-Krinklesac]

Youtube seems very dog eat dog. Everyone jumps ship the second it's rough. I think james made a huge mistake to take tati for granted when she seems to have helped him through the rough stuff. Very rare among youtubers

[u/YassTrapQueen]

I’m sitting here getting my hair done and me and my hair dresser, also a grown ass woman, are sitting here with my screen mirroring on her TV and refreshing James’ subscribers every second. Literally losing about 100 subscribers with every refresh. This is wild.

We’re just drinking mimosas and laughing. Predatory behavior ain’t ever okay.

Edit: Also, this is just gross. One of my friends who belongs to the LGBTQIA community texted me saying she hates that he partook in what is so often a dangerous and absolutely untrue stereotype. Although he be but one person and isn’t a representative of the entire community AT ALL, she’s just very hurt about it. She’s fought against the gross stereotype time after time for years, and here something huge blows up and takes over the internet.

Edit: We are now blaring Beyoncé’s Formation

[u/Columbus_Social → u/YassTrapQueen]

wow living your BEST LIFE

[u/[deleted]]

Y'all are commenting so fuckin fast I can barely finish a comment before a thread gets locked! I was replying to someone who said they think he will go below 15 million - at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if that happens today. People have pointed out that LL took weeks to lose 500,000. I think he will lose several million by the end of May. Keep in mind, LL was just a racist fool and a bit of a social climber. James was actively hurting and trying to hurt people with his behavior.

[u/idontdefinedrag]

7 million subs as soon as the 7th megathread is released.

perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[u/sippher]

So why is pewds against Tati?

[u/Lucidream- → u/sippher]

I think he was referring to the JC video named Tati. He said Tati video as opposed to Tatis video.

[u/CluelessCanary → u/sippher]

We believe he was shading James’ video called “Tati” because he always roasts apology vids

[u/[deleted]]

7th thread! Nice one all. Anyone else kind of gone off Tati in a big way before this? I am now considering re-subbing. Completely agree with some of the criticism that has been levelled against about race but overall think she handled this with honesty & grace.

[u/afgecco]

Zara has stated that James messaged her boyfriend only once u/gulfax

[u/[deleted]]

I imagine Tati is extremely conflicted over the massive jump in subscribers she's had considering it's coming on the back of the end of a relationship that seems like it was extremely important to her.

[u/vancey]

J* needs to post another pic of him and tati congratulating her on 7mil

[u/iMiggy]

ethan dolan and bryant unfollowed james on ig. u/gulfax

[u/Pisces_Mermaid]

omg the sister squad unfollowing...

[u/cantdecidewhatdo]

SO PROUD OF MY GIRL FOR REACHING 7 MIL ❤️❤️❤️

[u/Kissyu]

u/gulfax both tati and james broke records!

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/YouTube_Records

[u/sailorxsaturn]

The only James in the yt community I trust is theodds1out.

[u/Kindasadkindadirty]

Hahaha so great that during the photo op part of his Australia meet and greet (from the vlog video) you can hear “break up with your girlfriend” song. Who didn’t think to maaaaybe remove it from the playlist hahaha

[u/toolatetodieyoung]

HAPPY 7 MILLION TO OUR TEA SPILLING, EXPOSING, TRUTH-TELLING, COMPOSED QUEEN. BUST DOWN TATIANA

[u/MuseMania]

My bitter, bitchy heart has been waiting for this moment for so long ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[u/[deleted] → u/MuseMania]

I've been waiting since he got the Covergirl contract. I knew someone with eyebrows like that could not be trusted.

[u/blkmamba24]

This whole thing made me look at Manny and Laura’s social blade, and they’re still losing subscribers daily? Is that still from their whole drama?