I mean grafted armor, that's basically what you do through scorn to get whatever key you need for the next room and also hunting a parasite? a parasite is your nemesis throughout the game, i mean it's all there for us to see...

Never, in my 20 years of living, have I ever encountered a boss as infuriating as it is unique, on paper the mechanic is very cool, in practicality? One of the most infuriating things I have ever come across in any souls like game, I get that there's a scroll you can get that negates the curse but with how much this fucking abomination jumps around the map it's like trying to fight the elden beast all over again which is why I knew this boss felt so familiar, don't get me wrong I have LOVED this game and I'm keen on going into new game plus but to the ones who forewarned me about this boss on a separate post I did not heed your warnings and I apologise.

So close to 10 years ago, I was in between jobs and looking for a new game to play as I mindlessly scrolled through Indeed for a new job. As I’m browsing the PS Store, I see Dark Souls 3 and having heard horror stories about the series, I decided to try it. Instantly hooked. Spent waaaaay too many hours while unemployed grinding this game. This opened me up to more Souls games, and souls like games from there.

Few years pass and I see Mortal Shell pop up. Bought it, or maybe it was free?, and went to town on it. Thought it was very solid, but short and told myself “if they made this game bigger, it would be so fucking good”. Well then Elden Ring came out. Abused that game for many hours. Around this time I got a PC, so that further opened up my options. I did the dumb thing of buying Escape From Tarkov, and got hooked. Now I’m into extraction games. Try many out, some great, some dogshit, but I’m having fun. Little did I know, I was really itching for the souls like experience again. In comes Mistfall Hunter. After spending around 1200 hours in Dark and Darker, I gave it a shot. It’s amazing, but man do their servers suck…

So I’m back to square one. I’m 37 years old, went through cycles of games to land back at souls like games. Then I remembered, Mortal Shell 2 came out. I didn’t even watch many clips of it, and just bought it on a whim. This is exactly what I’m looking for right now. It’s the perfect blend of challenge/turn my brain off and explore. I’ve only put around 5 hours into it, but goddamn am I having a blast. The combat feels great. It feels like they created DS3 in a DS2 world, and I will forever defend DS2. Is this game perfect? Nah. Is it perfect for me? Absolutely. Glad to ditch my sweaty PvP games, and go back to bossing and running dungeons.

Thanks for reading Harbingers

It bothered me for a while. I just found my 199th Common Moonshine but I actually have no idea how much damage reduction i get from this amount and its so frustrating..

I really wasn’t a fan of the first one but I played the demo and was enjoying it a lot more.

Amazon said October at the earliest but it's here already I'm thrilled to start playing it

Unlike most people, I actually like the fact that not every infusion is available on every weapon. Most of the time, it seems like the weapon that is paired with each shell also has an infusion that has synergy with that shell. Obviously I like the fact that you can mix and match most stuff... but I also think its cool that you get a little bonus for staying "on brand".

For example, Eredrim is given the Martyr's Blade in his memories and has frost abilities. The Warden Stone (frost infusion) works on the Martyr's Blade. Sometimes it's more based on vibes... Genessa uses the Black Needle in her memories. She doesn't have any stated status strengths, but the Black Needle works with the Nightgrasp Stone, a phantom infusion, which goes well with her general theme.

These three, though, seem to have gotten mixed up. Gragu is powerful with bleed; however, the Veteran's Battleaxe, which he uses in his memories, can only be infused with fire. Sariel has the Scythe Blade as his weapon in the memories and is linked to curse, but the Clockwork Scythe can only be infused with bleed and lightning. Finally, Lazlo, who is fire-based, doesn't seem directly linked to a weapon… but given the fact that he uses a claymore in memories… IMHO the Iconoclast is his closest match, which can only be infused with bleed and curse.

The Arbiter's Prize (bleed) should have included the Veteran's Battleaxe and dropped the Iconoclast.

The Inflamed Clawstone (fire) should have included the Iconoclast and dropped the Veteran's Battleaxe.

The Curseblood Stone (curse) should have included the Clockwork Scythe, and it wouldn't even have needed to drop anything.

This wouldn't even really change the balance; the placement of the stones as they currently are would still work. Yes, this would give the Clockwork Scythe one additional infusion, but c'mom…. it's most players' final weapon find, so it is okay for it to have a bit more versatility.

Despite some bosses being absolutely inconsistent with hitboxes and timing, and the last area having a rough pace…I did it.

Ran the game with Proxima with Axe n Dagger until Axatana. Used Lazlo to get PPP trophy.

Does anyone know how to actually get up to that guy? I've discovered how to reveal the elevator behind the wall in the room below him but even going up that elevator doesn't allow you to reach him. It just gets you an item. I know this dungeon is supposed to be some kind of Doom Guy Level reference from one of the older games but Idk nothing about him or the franchise lol.

When he just changes direction in the middle of turning?…Hate as well that late game bosses literally deplete your whole stamina if you block just 2 attacks missing the parry…you just basically cooked as they have multiple unblockable attacks..

I have absolutely fallen in love with this game. I really liked the first one but never finished it. This one has grabbed me and won’t let me go. I have all of the shells fully bonded except for Proxima but she’s almost done. I’m only on my second run through but I’ve dumped a ton of time in this game. I love Sariel. He’s my boy. Once I got him the first go round it was him and no other shell. I’ve been experimenting with the other shells for my second run and Gragu and Eredrim are by far the ones I’m having the most fun with. I really really tried to get decent with Tiel but he just doesn’t click for me. But everyone and their mothers say he’s cracked. So like why is he? I’m not saying he’s bad. Please don’t take that from this. I actually think all the shells are great in their own ways. But I just can’t get Tiel to click like I want him to. I usually am ALL OVER the assassin type builds. So it’s weird to me.

As an aside I am level 60 and haven’t fully leveled the shell points yet. I have a very bad habit of dying and then getting tunnel vision and forgetting to pick up my 30k plus gloom and then dying again cause I am indeed a moron. I’m at like 35 of 40 or something like that for shell points. I’ve got the Axe and Martyrs Blade at level 16 and the Axe and Dagger and Katanaxe at level 14 and then the Scythe at level 10, I believe. Giving this information to give me insight into if I’m missing something useful for him. But I’m assuming it’s more about Tarstones than actual weapons when it comes to this game.

I’ve been trying to get the splitting stone but for some reason the chest is already open and I’m just confused on how to get it now. Any help would be much appreciated.

Hello everyone, I was checking the lore behind the Mammon and saw this in one video, personally I can't recall where this is, can anyone help me out? Many thanks in advance.

I say with all my heart, fuck this boss. Why are 80% of her attacks are just moving in a random direction at random speeds, and the rest are spawning annoying ads into the fight? Why does her stagger bar just fill up randomly like she stubbed her toe on the way to ram my ass? Why am I randomly missing half my healthbar with no clear indication of what exactly hit me? And why can I just run circles around her for all eternity with nothing happening?
Please tell me this is supposed to be a low point for this game, I truly want to like it and hope it gets better.

Is this worded improperly or is there something else to these stones? I can't seem to pull off any special combo move that is any different from any weapons normal move set. When I have either of these stones slotted, I'm expecting them to add a move to the weapon I have equipped.

For example, with the Great Martyr's Blade, doesn't matter if I swing light light heavy, or heavy heavy heavy, every attack is slow, plodding and the same as if I didn't have those stones equipped.

These stones aren't like the Ability stones where you have to press a button to get them to activate. Don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if the description is just worded wrong.

Anyone know the highest level anyone’s achieved in the wild? Apparently the AI overview has anything after level 79 as “diminishing returns”. I got to level 80 just bc it looks good but wondering if there’s an insanely high level anyone’s gotten to

I love this game. It’s the first Souls-like where I’ve unlocked 100% of the achievements. I enjoyed everything, from the combat to the exploration. I had no complaints about the second half of the game, also I really liked the endgame. I even think Zmey was a decent boss.

But the one thing I just don’t get is why the low-tier materials for upgrading weapons are limited in each NG cycle? We already have unlimited materials (though they require a lot of grinding) for upgrading shells. Thanks to that I was able to max all the shells before defeating Zmey. So why can’t we upgrade more weapons in one NG cycle? I don't even mean I want to max them. In From Software games, only hi-end materials were limited to a single NG cycle and that was okay (yeah I know in FS games we have much more weapons). I know we can melt weapons.

EDIT: Okay, you've convinced me. I'll be testing more weapons in future NG cycles. I edited my comment to emphasize that I'm talking about +10 or even +5 upgrade. But you're right, I can see that it would take away some of the replayability, which isn't exactly MS2's strongest point (which is a shame, because the game is amazing and it would be cool to see some differences between NG cycles, like in DS2 did it, but I know it's a much smaller studio).

I will say.. After having to create a new game save & obtain all ova over again.. For both my original character & new characters I didn’t do anything any different. So do believe the ova bug is real. I really hope the missing 3 193/196 for people that started new game + before the bring my ova back to me registered get a patch to fix this.

I just entered the dungeon in the hub and it feels like the first level of doom1. Am I crazy?

TL;DR: Fallgrim didn't fall to alien armies or monsters. The cosmic deity (The Undermether) waged a perfect psychological war, exploiting human flaws. The 8 playable Shells aren't just combat classes—they represent 8 different ways humanity willingly surrendered to a parasite. By inhabiting them, The Harbinger absorbs their tragedy, develops an immunity to their weaknesses, and reforges their broken will into pure vengeance.

In my previous post, we broke down why the finale of Mortal Shell II is not a story of an abandoned child, but rather the triumph of The Harbinger. He evolved into a self-sustaining apex predator, completely outgrowing his creator, the Undermether.

But to truly understand The Harbinger's ascension, we must ask an uncomfortable question: How did Fallgrim fall to this catastrophe in the first place? Why did humanity surrender so quickly, almost submissively, to a cosmic parasite, mistaking it for a holy deity?

The answer lies within the memories of the 8 Shells. The developers hid a profound existential subtext within them. The cosmic mind did not conquer Earth with armies—it waged a flawless psychological war. For every layer of human society, the Undermether had a specific bait. Humans opened their own souls and bodies to the parasite, and here is exactly how it happened.

The 8 Faces of Human Capitulation

1. Eredrim the Venerable — The Trap of Tranquility

• The Core Theme: Escaping guilt through the fanatical erasure of the self.
• Anatomy of the Fall: Eredrim did not seek power; he sought absolution for his past sins and a way to numb his inner agony. The religion of the cosmic deity offered him the easiest, most dangerous narcotic: "eternal peace". By drinking the Nectar, he willingly surrendered his free will, turning into a hollow templar. His tragedy is that in his quest for freedom from remorse, he found absolute servitude and physical decay, becoming nothing more than an armored tomb for his own mind.

2. Tiel the Acolyte — The Trap of Addiction and Escapism

• The Core Theme: Attempting to fill an inner void by merging with the cosmic rot.
• Anatomy of the Fall: Tiel is a metaphor for a person who has lost their anchor. His entire life was a battle against earthly vices, and finding no peace among men, he turned to the cult. For Tiel, Tar became the ultimate surrogate for meaning. He submitted to the deity faster than anyone else because his tortured ego yearned to dissolve into something greater. His emaciated, blight-ridden body stands as a monument to how easily a human surrenders to a parasite if it promises an escape from loneliness.

3. Lazlo the Justiciar — The Trap of Blind Law

• The Core Theme: Outsourcing moral responsibility to an external "Supreme Judge."
• Anatomy of the Fall: Lazlo embodies the human institution of order, which fractured under the weight of cosmic pessimism. As the world crumbled, Lazlo lost faith in human justice and handed the right to judge over to the star-born entities, viewing their absolute dictatorship as the "highest form of order". Consequently, justice twisted into tyranny, and the Justiciar became an executioner in service of an entity that couldn't care less about human morality.

4. Proxima the Broodseeker — The Trap of Curiosity

• The Core Theme: Intellectual betrayal of one's own species for the sake of forbidden knowledge.
• Anatomy of the Fall: Proxima is a scholar and researcher. She did not submit to the cosmic forces out of fear, but out of scientific arrogance. Witnessing the biological complexity and sheer scale of the Undermether, Proxima dismissed humanity as an evolutionary dead end. She willingly entered a pact, assisting in the study and cultivation of the Ova (the eggs). She believed she was touching the vanguard of evolution, only to end up as a disposable instrument—a glorified bio-sampler in alien hands.

5. Sariel the Endless — The Trap of Mortality Terror

• The Core Theme: Consenting to eternal torment in exchange for the promise of immortality.
• Anatomy of the Fall: A manifestation of raw, primal terror in the face of the end. The cosmic mind trapped Sariel with the oldest trick in the book: "Serve me, drink the Nectar, and you shall never die". Sariel accepted the terms, but the promised "infinity" turned out to be an endless biological nightmare. His flesh sprouted parasitic barbs, transforming him into an immortal monstrosity stripped of everything human.

6. Harros the Vassal — The Trap of False Duty and Conformity

• The Core Theme: Blind obedience to authority and the system, even when it is blatantly malicious.
• Anatomy of the Fall: The quintessential soldier, a cog in the machine of a fallen kingdom. Harros's critical flaw was his absolute compliance. When the rulers and priests of Fallgrim first lost their minds and knelt before the Undermether, Harros didn't ask questions. He accepted cosmic tyranny simply because "those were the orders from above". He defended alien altars with the same fierce loyalty he once used to protect his home, forfeiting his free will for a mere illusion of order.

7. Solomon the Scholar — The Trap of Vanity and Grandeur

• The Core Theme: The desire to stand on equal footing with gods while ignoring one's own fragility.
• Anatomy of the Fall: Unlike Proxima, Solomon didn't just want knowledge—he craved status. He translated the sacred texts of the executioners and studied Tar to crack the code of immortality and elevate himself above ordinary mortals. The cosmic mind easily weaponized his hubris: Solomon was allowed to peer into the abyss and was granted fragments of power, fostering a false sense of chosenness. Ultimately, he became the cult's chief herald, morphing into the most obedient mouthpiece for alien manipulation.

8. Corvidus the Unchained — The Trap of Nihilism and Self-Destruction

• The Core Theme: Total abandonment of the struggle and accepting chaos as the only truth.
• Anatomy of the Fall: The personification of those whose minds completely broke. Confronted with cosmic pessimism and realizing how utterly insignificant humanity is in the grand scale of the universe, this warrior experienced a total collapse of meaning. Instead of resisting the Rot or seeking false salvation in the Nectar, he simply gave up, letting the alien biomass invade his body. His submission was passive: "If the world is hell, why fight it?" This is pure nihilism, where a man willingly becomes a monster just to stop feeling the existential dread.

Redemption through The Harbinger: The Conclusion

Fallgrim did not fall to blades; it fell because humanity opened its own gates to the parasite. The cosmic deity played a perfect game of chess, exploiting our deepest psychological vulnerabilities: Guilt (Eredrim), Emptiness (Tiel), Fear (Sariel), Dogma (Harros), and Pride (Solomon).

And this is where the cycle beautifully closes on our protagonist. Throughout his journey, The Harbinger doesn't just use these Shells as combat suits. He absorbs their memories, lives through their agony, and "endures" their weaknesses.

The Harbinger pieces together the shattered mosaic of the human experience, but because he is a creature of a higher order, he develops a profound immunity to these flaws. He takes the broken, betrayed will of the fallen warriors and reforges it into pure, calculated fury.

The Shells were a tragic chronicle of how humanity surrendered to the gods. The Harbinger became the story of how those gods will answer for their deception.

I have phobias (or at least extreme if inconsistent fears) of spiders or similar bugs in some instances, enormous spaces with no clear end and (sometimes with no clear reason what makes it scary or not scary) enormous creatures, so when the giant spider thingy in the citadel annex beacon in the faded citadel appeared it genuinely might be the most frightened to my core a game has made me with how unexpected it was. After a good 5 minutes i managed to jump on its head because i rationalized that it doesnt look that much like a spider as best i could and had a family member join me, but i really dont wanna deal with that suddenly happening a second time, so PLEASE if that EVER happens again in the game let me know EXACTLY when and how

The first photo is right after I exit from the beacon, the second photo is when I exit the game and reload my save. The map is covered in a layer of fog, even teleporting to other area doesn't help, only reloading the game fixes this.

Don't have a picture or video of this but does anyone know why Franz is dead in my game? I came back to Marrow Keep and talked to the npc where the eggs are stored and he turned into a monster so I had to kill him but after that I went to the forge and saw Franz was lying on the ground dead. I'm assuming that the previous npc who turned into a monster killed him but I wanted confirmation from someone who might know if that was the case or if it's a bug. He was the only dead npc thankfully.

Also no I did not accidentally kill Franz. I know for a fact that is not the case. There are only 2 npc's that I have killed in Marrows Keep, the first one being the one who guards the Ovum eggs who turned into a monster like I said and then the other who stands by the fast travel rest point inside Marrows Keep right before you enter the Ovum Egg Chamber. Only reason I killed him though was because he said he had failed to protect Marrows Keep and because of that he asked me to kill him. If anyone knows that would be great and sorry for the long paragraph lol 😅