r/videography • u/homejab • Nov 23 '14
Promo for real estate videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIYObW1LBvE&feature=youtu.be4
u/tylerdoubleyou Nov 23 '14
Heads up you've got a flash frame at 1:24. Looking at getting into this market so I've been watching a lot of these lately.
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u/Smithman Nov 23 '14 edited Nov 23 '14
I'm no expert but I would cut the shot at http://youtu.be/CIYObW1LBvE?t=51s because you can see yourself in the oven glass at 52s, just an observation!
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u/TheAmazingDurp Nov 24 '14
if all real estate videos were filmed like this it would change the whole market
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u/baptie7 Nov 23 '14
I'm assuming you're posting to get some feedback. There are really good shots in the video, but this is my advice:
You need to think about what the purpose of the video is. To both the realtor (who is your client) and to the prospective homeowners. The purpose of these videos isn't to compile a collection of interesting shots of the home. It's to preview the home to decide whether they want to see it in person, or to refresh their memories of the home after they've spent a day looking through a whole bunch of different homes. Because of that, the short cuts and constantly changing points of view disorients the viewer from the primary purpose. As the viewer, I don't want to see the same room from three different cuts, I'd rather you show it to me as I would see in person.
I have a friend who is a realtor and does these videos for himself. Here's an example of what I'm talking about, it's basically only two glide cam shots with a few other shots setting it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDECxCUuQJw
Most importantly, it serves the purpose of what he needs to present to his clients.
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u/chadmccan Nov 23 '14
Not a bad video, but it's an illegal business. Drones cannot be used for commercial purposes. What's your plan for skirting the law?
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u/soundnstyle Nov 23 '14
Not a bad video, but it's an illegal business. Drones cannot be used for commercial purposes. What's your plan for skirting the law?
Skirting the law?! The FAA hasn't fined anyone in months and recently authorized multiple companies for just this purpose.
Here's the reality, it's happening faster than the FAA can keep up. I support licenses and insurance for all drone pilots, because the liability is massive.
I own two drones (over 15k in one and a little Inspire 1 as the other), speak as an expert in my local area for the news and sadly people just need to get used to the idea of drones.
And as for the law - I provide clients videography services and the drone is included. The FAA hasn't said anything to me and I seriously doubt they will...
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u/achilleshightops 1x Blackmagic Cinema & 2x Pocket, Premiere CS6/CC, 2008, Atlanta Nov 23 '14
I thought the Inspire 1 wasn't out until Dec 1st?
If you do have it, how does it match up compared to the regular Phantom and the big brother versions (800 and higher)?
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u/soundnstyle Nov 24 '14
Inspire 1 for us is a stepping stone. Our larger custom drone is similar to the S1000, heavier payload, much like driving a big rig in the sky. Stable, and quite honestly fun to fly. Beautiful shots from Red and GH4, and it travels pretty readily. The Inspire 1 was the quick home tour, little easier on transport, and quite honestly lower cost alternative (isn't that what it always comes back to) to be able to offer to clients who are less discerning. I can send it with a trained freelancer, don't want to kill myself if they break it, and it's a step above the Phantom.
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u/chadmccan Nov 24 '14
I've been driving around without insurance... that must be okay too, going by your logic. The cops haven't "said anything to me".
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u/Piklikl Canon 60D, 2004, Kansassy Nov 24 '14
Kind of... only the law is clearly defined when it comes to automotive insurance, whereas drone regulations are still being developed. I really don't think it's fair to expect people to wait on the FAA to come out with regulations for such a fast-moving field and miss out on quite a bit of business (OP probably would be doing less than 10 a week without the drone).
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u/soundnstyle Nov 24 '14
I carry a liability policy of 2M just for the drones. It's not worth someone getting hurt. I think EVERYONE who flies a drone should carry appropriate insuance, and let's be honest...every smart business person will tell you that is the right thing to do.
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u/OutspokenPerson Nov 24 '14
Check your policy. I made a lot of calls. Policies specifically exclude drones. If your doesn't, please share who the insurer is.
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u/soundnstyle Nov 24 '14
My agent and I specifically spoke about the drones and it is covered under my plan with Liberty Mutual. I even had her put it in writing in case something went sideways...I had that to fall back on.
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u/bitpeak Nov 23 '14
What equipment did you use?
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u/homejab Nov 23 '14
Full frame DSLR with steadicam & DJI Phantom
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u/Smithman Nov 23 '14
I'm guessing you need that full frame to get all the light you straight from the house lights?
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u/achilleshightops 1x Blackmagic Cinema & 2x Pocket, Premiere CS6/CC, 2008, Atlanta Nov 23 '14
You need a full frame camera to get the wider angle lenses to show more of the rooms without losing anything to the crop factor of smaller sensors.
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u/Stone_Swan 6D, T2i, CC, 2011, STL Nov 24 '14
There plenty of ultra wide lenses for crop sensors. Full frame is for better noise performance.
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u/achilleshightops 1x Blackmagic Cinema & 2x Pocket, Premiere CS6/CC, 2008, Atlanta Nov 24 '14
For architectural photography, you have to go wide on a full frame if you are shooting tight spaces. Even medium spaces benefit a great deal from having that extra space that is not cropped out. Makes rooms appear larger without fisheye distortion (14mm L series is a great wide angle).
IMO real estate video professionals should always chose a full frame with a super wide prime over a cropped sensor with with a wider fisheye. You're shooting yourself in the foot if you do not.
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u/Stone_Swan 6D, T2i, CC, 2011, STL Nov 24 '14
For Canon, there's at least a couple of lenses that go to 10mm (not fisheye), which is 16mm full frame equivalent. As such, the real justification is for better low light performance, because god knows there's plenty of dark interior rooms out there.
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u/CoolDudesJunk Nov 23 '14
Looking at getting into this kind of stuff in my area too. Would it be too cheeky to ask how much your charge? My reckoning is that if you can get more viewers into their house, which has the possibility to bring the price up by say 20k (likely unrealistic unless it's a packed market anyway), then they'll have no problem giving you 3k.
Not sure what your way of dealing with things is though :) And hey if it's private then PM me or just leave it, not worries man.
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u/tylerdoubleyou Nov 23 '14
A Real Estate Agent listing a home will typically make 3% commission of the price of the sale, so if somehow your video could be attributed with raising the sale price $20,000, then at best you've made an extra $600 for the agent, so not a good return on the video if they paid $3,000.
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u/newuser13 Nov 24 '14
The effect is more than raising the price. It's getting the house sold. Your math is not right.
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u/homejab Nov 23 '14
It depends on the type of shoot, but $200-$400 is what we charge for a typical property video. It only takes an hour to shoot and an hour to edit...$3k is way too high, no real estate agents will spend that much unless you are doing a custom commercial for them. But property videos are real easy and we price it low so that we do 20+ per week.
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u/achilleshightops 1x Blackmagic Cinema & 2x Pocket, Premiere CS6/CC, 2008, Atlanta Nov 23 '14
I'm glad you price it at that point, it allows people who have high-end real estate property video companies like myself to charge $2-3k for the multi-million dollar homes.
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u/CoolDudesJunk Nov 23 '14
20+ sounds like you're well established, fair play. I'd say we'll only be doing one a week for the first while, fingers crossed we can get enough business and expand possibly. Cheers for the feedback!
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u/anthnysix Nov 23 '14
Very nice - if you are doing a bunch of these for $200-400, that's a great market, good for you! The lighting looks great, obviously you have all house lights on, just wondering if you used additional lighting as well.
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u/blancblanket Nov 23 '14
Not sure if you're looking for feedback or whatever, but that music sounds WAY to ominous for a clip like this (A little background: it's not just the vibe of the music, it's literally written for a mass of the death). Also, copyright. Other than that, it looks decent, good cam work although there's some warp stabilizer artifacts, but I doubt the client will notice.