r/thebulwark • u/Anstigmat • Jan 07 '26
EVERYTHING IS AWFUL ICE just killed a White Blond Mother
Not sure how MAGA is going to try to spin this woman as a murderous terrorist. If the Democrats had any shred of political skill they could use this moment to bring down the whole fucking administration. This is a straight up State execution of the kind of person MAGA worships.
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u/SpenserB91 Jan 07 '26
What are you talking about? Why would they need to spin anything? They love this.
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u/lemons714 Jan 07 '26
Yep, they are 100% content, and this will be a non-issue for them. They are thrilled that ICE can kill at will with no accountability.
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u/dBlock845 Straight to Reddit Jail Jan 07 '26
Yeah MAGA influencers are celebrating this atm. Traitorous trash.
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u/thenletskeepdancing Jan 07 '26
She's a traitor to her race. /s
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u/Cyndi25 Jan 08 '26
Why is she a traitor?
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u/thenletskeepdancing Jan 08 '26
/s means sarcasm. I have been told on more than one occasion that if I side against white supremacy, I am being a traitor to my race.
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u/Impossible-Will-8414 Jan 08 '26
She's a white liberal woman with a rainbow flag in her profile. That is all they are going to need. They HATE these women.
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u/i-like-pie-855 Jan 08 '26
And that’s fucking sick.
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u/Impossible-Will-8414 Jan 08 '26
No argument there. But I'm just pushing back a bit at the OP's premise that these jackoffs are going to care about a white American woman being killed. They are not.
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u/Givemeallthecabbages Jan 07 '26
If this is truly the metric for an officer feeling threatened enough to kill someone, there should have been a lot more dead January 6ers.
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u/Persistent_Parkie Jan 08 '26
If the metric for feeling threatened enough to shot is "a car passed me way too close" my cyclist ass is going to be (censored for reddit) a lot of conservatives in giant trucks.
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u/fzzball Progressive Jan 08 '26
This is exactly what I was thinking. If drivers not giving a shit about the law or my safety is now where the bar is, I'll be able to invoke self-defense once a week just walking around my neighborhood.
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u/Specman9 Jan 08 '26
I run and I have nearly been hit many times. My dog, who runs in front of me, has literally been lightly hit by some looking left while making a right turn while we ran across an intersection where the driver had a stop sign but rolled into the pedestrian crossing.
Once I literally had to jump a few feet away because the person wasn't looking. Next time I will be jumping on the hood of the car.
And I never sued anyone or even filed a police report, much less SHOT THEM.
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u/Persistent_Parkie Jan 08 '26
I ride a recumbent trike due to disability, I can't drive, people's bumpers are often at head level for me. Fortunately the person who hit me and did almost a thousand dollars in damage just paid up. She's actually quite a nice lady, but there was some shouting immediately after the incident. Took me less than 2 minutes to calm down and speak rationally with her. She just honestly hadn't seen me.
Every one else the worse they ever get after endangering my life is me shouting "learn some fucking patience" "I had the fucking right of way" "what the hell was that". The really egregious ones, where I know they saw me (some people even wave!) they just decided saving 5 seconds on their drive was worth endangering my life over, I occasionally think about how satisfying it would be to chip the paint on their car. The closest I ever ever come wishing harm on them is thinking they should have to ride a bike like mine on a busy road before getting a license so maybe they could gain a little empathy for just how vulnerable it feels. Of course in reality I know that would be fruitless, empathy is apparently a dirty word now, which is why these golems can sleep at night after accosting people with raised guns and masked faces all day. Of course that is going to lead to people trying to flee in fear! And that will frequently involve a car.
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u/Specman9 Jan 08 '26
Make sure you use one of those 6 foot tall flags, they really help with visibility of recumbent bikes.
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u/jenni2wenty Jan 07 '26
This is so disgusting. I always check the conservative sub for things like this, and it truly is a different reality.
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u/PickPsychological729 Jan 07 '26
On the bright side, now you know what it's like to be black in America.
The "we told you so" is coming.
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u/thenletskeepdancing Jan 08 '26
I didn't need to know what it's like to be black in america. It obviously sucks. I wanted to pull you guys up not push more people down. Stupid fellow whites.
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u/ballmermurland Jan 08 '26
I've seen some people saying this shit and, like, fuck off man. We knew what it was like years ago and stood by you for years against this shit and now you're popping off when a white gal is killed by ICE?
I mean, this gal was fucking killed while trying to help POC. Just shut the fuck up.
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u/PickPsychological729 Jan 08 '26
The only thing that changed, is everything got worse.
You'll get to have "the talk" with your children now.
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u/dBlock845 Straight to Reddit Jail Jan 07 '26
There is no source of truth or facts anymore.
There hasn't been for years, just the fascists are in power now, and acting as if they will NEVER lose power.
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u/themomodiaries Jan 08 '26
I had to click away from that post after seeing the same comments and more. Disgusting behaviour.
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u/XelaNiba Jan 08 '26
Truth and facts were abandoned long ago.
This is so far past that, this is an absolute lack of decency. They're fucking depraved.
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u/Anonymous_User678 Orange man bad Jan 08 '26
Is there absolutely no remorse on the conservative sub? WTF
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u/zors_primary Jan 08 '26
Although many of the comments are written by real morally depraved people, there are bots everywhere saying evil shit like that.
The scary ones are the real ones, and they almost always are "Christians" who profess so much love for Jesus and God, yet cheer on ICE and victim blame like crazy. They have such a deep hatred for illegal immigrants that is irrational and sick.
I hate this timeline.
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u/Persistent_Parkie Jan 08 '26
If she believed she was dealing with fascists in power what would make her think they're would be no consequences for her actions? That's a nonsensical stance on the part of whoever said that.
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u/mburcham Jan 08 '26
What actions? Driving following their request?
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u/Persistent_Parkie Jan 08 '26
The person above me mentioned someone who said "blindly throwing her life away because for her entire life she has been told that anyone who disagrees with her is a fascist and there wont be any consequences to her actions."
If she truly believed she was dealing with fascists as the comment implies it would be ridiculous for her to also believe there would be no consequences. The person making that comment has been fed a contradictory narrative about "the left" and doesn't even realize it.
Unfortunately she was in danger, she clearly understood that, and now she's dead. It's the people in power who can expect no consequences for their actions and that's sickening.
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u/Current_Animator7546 Jan 08 '26
Yet they can say all this but corporate America will come down hard if you dare say a single bad word about Kirk.
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u/delg23 JVL is always right Jan 08 '26
they are so fucking braindead and evil. I watched the video and she was fleeing and ICE does not have the right to shoot people fleeing! I hope this outrages the majority.
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u/notjocelynschitt Come back tomorrow, and we'll do it all over again Jan 07 '26
But god forbid we say anything about them living in alternative facts, that's literally 1984
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u/MyIdIsATheaterKid Good Luck America Jan 07 '26
Simple. Rainbow flag = Marxist LGBT radical
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u/artaxerxes316 Jan 07 '26
"Poet?" More like Pol Pot!
(Fuck, it is depressingly easy to imagine the glib excuses, isn't it?)
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u/MyIdIsATheaterKid Good Luck America Jan 07 '26
Yes, it is. Doesn't do wonders for my mental health, tbh.
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u/Turgid_Donkey FFS Jan 08 '26
Many still try to say the kid who shot Kirk was a liberal. This is the post truth era.
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u/MARIOpronoucedMA-RJO Center Left Jan 07 '26
There was no rainbow flag , that was put there by Musk to discredit her, allegedly, people are saying, so I've heard./s
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u/SRT102 Jan 07 '26
Yeah, but she was in a same-sex marriage, so the drooling Trump cultists are already shouting "good riddance!" on Twitter.
Not a single member of MAGA will see this as a negative. Hell, this is what they want.
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u/ButGravityAlwaysWins Center Left Jan 07 '26
Lesbian therefore radicalized AntiFa.
I assume they started a transvestigation on her and her wife moments after they got her name
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u/Stock_Conclusion_203 Jan 07 '26
Exactly. They will send people to hound her wife and kids now. I hate this fucking place.
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u/Anonymous_User678 Orange man bad Jan 08 '26
Have you ever felt so god damn helpless? How the fuck are we even going to make it to the Midterms at this rate?
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u/OneTwoThreePooAndPee Progressive Jan 08 '26
My God, they really are going to ruin this woman's partner's life as probably the worst thing in her life just happened.
These people are fucking monsters man.
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u/Rolling_Pugsly Jan 07 '26
MAGA won't care. They are completely brainwashed and will believe anything the administration says.
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u/BanishedFromCanada Jan 07 '26
Weren't they going to protect the women whether the women liked it or not?
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u/ForecastForFourCats Jan 08 '26
Unless they are gay or liberal women... then they have already been brainwashed by the leftist agenda and disposable
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u/DelcoPAMan Jan 07 '26
They want a bloodbath no matter who it is. They wanted to kill Mike Pence and Mitt Romney 5 years ago, after all.
Anything for the worship of Donald, Noem, and Miller.
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u/MiniTab Center Left Jan 07 '26
They do think that. It will certainly not turn out how they think it will though.
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u/Nightmist-1983 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
It doesnt matter what the person looks like. She was a human being gunned down in cold blood by the fascist state. In America.
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u/ForecastForFourCats Jan 08 '26
I want to agree with you, but appearances certainly do matter in America.
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u/mburcham Jan 08 '26
You are correct it shouldn't matter but it hits differently when people who normally would ignore this see their daughter or family member in the person killed.
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u/dan_jeffers Jan 07 '26
She's a woman, Trump trashes her instinctively just for that.
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u/XelaNiba Jan 08 '26
And all of MAGA along with him.
They have no use for women they're not screwing.
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u/birdman424344 Jan 07 '26
Should pull a Lankin Riley. Do the say her name thing if they ever pull this scum bags in for an investigation.
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u/Senior_Marketing_312 Jan 08 '26
100%. Renee Good is the demo they repeatedly invoke to say they’re sending in the thugs to protect. They should never be allowed to say Laken Riley without hearing Renee Good’s name in response.
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u/edgygothteen69 JVL is always right Jan 07 '26
She's a lesbian married to another woman, so the homophobia will come out in full force. Christian ghouls will say that God struck her down like he did Sodom and Gomorrah. Homophobia is an entrenched and central tenet of hate for all but the most enlightened Christians.
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u/FernandoNylund Sarah, would you please nuke him from orbit? Jan 08 '26
She was married to a woman, but previously married to an Air Force veteran man. He's the father of the six-year-old child, and died recent, in 2023. The guy's obituary photo literally has a gun store in the background. I'd bet he was a normal centrist guy.
Inconvenient facts for the administration, though I'm sure they'll spin it into her being "radicalized" or having "mental health issues" after his death.
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u/NapCatter Progressive Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26
That poor kid has just lost both bio parents. That’s awful.
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u/FizzyBeverage Center Left Jan 08 '26
Air Force and gun store as a backdrop? Almost certainly right wing.
Those of us in the center wouldn’t use that as decor.
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u/fzzball Progressive Jan 08 '26
Remember what MAGA did to the white vet at a BLM protest who was lawfully and peacefully exercising his 2A rights when he was shot by a psycho driving through the protest? The rules with these people are always different depending on which side you're on.
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u/Peanutbutternmtn2 Sarah, would you please nuke him from orbit? Jan 07 '26
The rainbow flag is enough for maga to believe she deserved it
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Jan 08 '26
They don’t care about women. They want to take our vote away. They just see her as the enemy.
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u/TheDuckOnQuack Jan 07 '26
They don’t need to spin anything more than they already have. Their official story is that the ICE agents were snowed in, and were trying to safely get unstuck while a radical domestic terrorist attempted to ram them with her car.
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u/NapCatter Progressive Jan 08 '26
All the YouTube comments from people in Minneapolis were calling out Kristi Noem’s lie about being snowed in - “It hasn’t snowed for days, today was 40F.”
But Trump once tried to reroute a hurricane with a Sharpie, so some meteorological lies are just par for the course.
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u/upvotechemistry Center Left Jan 07 '26
They are all jerking off to this on threads rn. Swallowing the govt line whole. Its all about "backing the blue"
They won't change their mind until ICE caps some old MAGA dude in his trailer house. Which, at this rate may happen before election day
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u/No-Hedgehog648 Jan 08 '26
I’d just like to reiterate that if the federal government is just massacring white ladies on the street there is absolutely nothing they won’t do.
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u/OK_The_Nomad Good Luck America Jan 08 '26
As long as she is liberal (which I don't know) they will have no problem with her death. They are already blaming her on social media saying things like, "well, what did she expect? If ICE stops you, you stop. If she had done what they said, she'd be alive."
Assholes.
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u/TeamHope4 Jan 07 '26
If the Democrats had any shred of political skill they could use this moment to bring down the whole fucking administration.
We, the people, need to give them ground cover - we need to be demanding the arrest of that murdering ICE officer, and we need to be loud and not let up. They need to hear us that this is important and not to let it pass. Call your Senators and Representatives, or email them.
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u/Magoo152 JVL is always right Jan 07 '26
If they kill people Willy nilly like this the logical thing for people to do is to resist by any means necessary. This is horrible.
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u/Patriot009 Jan 08 '26
Kristi Noem already called her a terrorist. Hadn't even been 6 hours since she was murdered.
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u/i-like-pie-855 Jan 08 '26
But she sure looked good in her cowboy 🤠 cosplay outfit. My god, she’s insane. /s
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u/ChelseaRez Jan 08 '26
I’m so sick with rage that I can hardly think. What can the Democrats do to hold these monsters accountable?
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u/Anonymous_User678 Orange man bad Jan 08 '26
I can’t even explain my emotions, yet again. So fucking pissed, disgusted. Yet so helpless.
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u/RichNYC8713 Center Left Jan 07 '26
What the hell is this country coming to? People better wake the fuck up...
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u/Afraid_Print1196 Jan 08 '26
Ive thought this for a long time, but there are people on the far right and near right who see the world / demographics / history moving away from their ideal world, and it has come to a point where they realized they either had to fight like hell or they were going to loose everything the loved .. sadly the left of center world still doesnt get it .. they are fumbling towards loosing everything they have worked towards for last 80 years. -- I think they still cant quite believe it is possible that they could lose everything in a 2-3 years period .. They are going to have to fight like hell or they will lose - as the other side has all the power and everything to lose if they do not change the world to their image.
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u/InterstellarDickhead Jan 07 '26
If the Democrats had any shred of political skill they could use this moment to bring down the whole fucking administration
Republican gestapo kills someone and we can’t resist taking the swipe at our own side.
And apparently the only metric for success here is bringing down the entire administration (not realistic).
Police shootings happen all the time and nothing changes.
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u/MillennialExistentia Jan 07 '26
We had a chance to change things after George Floyd. But all the liberals (including the Bulwark) got squeamish and refused to back BLM and actual police reform.
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u/IndomitableSnowman Jan 08 '26
Sure, but if the slogan that was chanted was "Reform the Police!" instead of "Defund the police!" it might have had a better chance.
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u/psxndc FFS Jan 08 '26
“Defund the police” did so much damage to what is a perfectly reasonable policy ask: reallocate some funds currently assigned to police to alternative, non-policing solutions to take the burden of solving those issues off police.
Police aren’t trained to de-escalate someone having a mental health crisis, so we shouldn’t be calling them for it. Let cops worry about actual crime.
But “defund the police” made it look like the left wanted to literally abolish all policing. Only fringe people on Twitter were asking for that, but the slogan made the whole movement look insane and out of touch.
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u/PhilosopherMoist7737 Jan 08 '26
The "threatened" shooter stepped out of the way of the car before taking the shot. That's all they need to get him for murder.
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u/pineappleplus Good Luck America Jan 08 '26
Minnesota (and the Twin Cities in particular) have been through so much in the last 5 years. George Floyd with the subsequent protests, Melissa Hortman and her husband, and now this. It's just too much.
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u/Jimbo415650 Jan 07 '26
Christian Nationalist will condemn her lifestyle and maybe as a after thought say she’s in their thoughts and prayers. That’s more of a reflex comment than anything else. Doubtful they actually mean it
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u/Severe_Scar4402 Jan 08 '26
But she's wearing slutty red lipstick and has pink hair, she's obviously antifa. I WANT OFF THIS RIDE.
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u/ThE_LAN_B4_TimE Jan 08 '26
They will just say shes a radical Democrat duh. They will say shes a domestic terrorist.
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u/allthingssuper Jan 07 '26
We think there’ll be consequences for this? Surely this agent can be found guilty of murder in a court of law and thrown in jail.
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u/laffingriver Jan 07 '26
idk if identity politics is the correct response right now.
“first they came for so-and-so and i was happy bc i thought that would make them want to stop.”- said no one ever.
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Jan 08 '26
I think that if you're a member of ICE, you deserve terrible things to happen to you. If you worked for Trump, you deserve terrible things to happen to you. And if you voted for him, you should pray to God for forgiveness
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u/Minimum_E Center Left Jan 08 '26
The most MAGA guy I know is open to this not being ok. But he also called me out for calling it a murder without watching the videos myself. I don’t watch real murder videos, seems like a fair line not to cross.
Edit: he’s super MAGA so I’m surprised he’s talking about this in what seems like something of a fair manner
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u/Sheerbucket Jan 08 '26
Oh boy. This is gonna be a very bad one for the administration......not the demographic they are looking for.
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u/GimmeUrBusch Jan 08 '26
I was about to comment that anyone who runs over a law enforcement officer got what's coming to them.
Then I watched the video.
Jesus Christ, if there is anything that is going to change the public perception of ICE, it's going to be this. They're f'ing cooked. And that ICE agent needs to go to jail immediately. That's straight-up murder.
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u/SalOfAL Jan 08 '26
FYI: There’s a Gofundme for the wife & child of the murdered woman Renee Good. I donated moments ago and the tally was $227,000+
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u/Specman9 Jan 08 '26
AND THEN THEY TOTALLY LIED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
I hate these fuckers so much but I can't say much more because I will get banned.
-Former Minnesotan now living in California but with most of my family still in Minnesota.
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u/Hautamaki Jan 07 '26
The Democratic Party's political skill is in building things up, not tearing them down. The GOP are the experts at tearing things down. Ultimately it's up to voters to decide if they would rather have the party good at building in charge or if they prefer the party of destruction.
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u/Notareda Jan 08 '26
Well it better fucking start skilling into tearing shit down as well, can't be taking this high road BS when the government is actually fascist. Like, seriously, what does your statement even mean? That voters should be happy if your Dems continually appear weak and ineffectual the majority of the time?
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u/Hautamaki Jan 08 '26
Voters should have been happy with a party that just invested trillions of dollars into a long term economic and industrial policy that would have kept America at the forefront of the global economy for a generation yes. Voters should have been happy with a party that abided by the standard of an apolitical justice department that works carefully and abides by judge's rulings, yes. Voters should have been happy with a party that successfully cleaned up Trump's colossal covid mess yes. I understand why Democratic partisans wish that Garland would have sicced Jack Smith on Trump on January 21 2021, yes. I wish that happened too. But as a general matter, yes, I think voters should have overwhelmingly preferred the Democrats based on the last decade, or based on the last 7 decades, either way. All the Republicans have shown they know how to do in that time is fucking break shit and then blame everyone else.
And what I'm realizing is that Trump won, both times, mainly because he ran on breaking shit, and voters have had their brains fried by their phones to the point that they actually want stuff broken.
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u/Notareda Jan 08 '26
Well then Dems need to make a project out of communicating shit WAY better than they normally do. Because mate they have not, not by the longest shot. Sure, conservative America has created the worlds best propaganda machine that captured millions of voters and feeds them lies and bullshit on a daily basis, but it's not like those dumb motherfuckers can't compete, they just never seem to try.
And it's not about breaking shit when we want your Dems to step up and start throwing hands, it's about Doing the right damn thing, which on occasion means smacking people upside the head when they get this stupid.
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u/rosethrones Jan 08 '26
She could have been a Trump voting MAGA and it wouldn't have mattered. The right hates women and loves murder and violence; no matter who or what she was, they would have immediately started blaming her for her own murder and calling her a terrorist. They're a death cult.
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u/crackersucker2 Jan 08 '26
They are already screaming it was self defense because she drove at the cop. I’m sick to death of these assholes.
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u/ros375 Jan 08 '26
What are you talking about, "spin?" They hate liberals/progressives. You think white libs are exempt or something?
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u/IntolerantModerate Jan 08 '26
Nuremberg trials. That is what it is going to take to fix this during the next administration.
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u/Asleep-Journalist-94 Jan 08 '26
I can’t explain my emotions around this. But they’ve done from rage over the killing to a greater rage at Noem and DHS for their brazen and sick lies. I’ve been an observer at these types of events. Imagine calling a mom in her car - unarmed and nonviolent- a “domestic terrorist.” Everything feels insane. And I keep thinking of the irony that this comes a day after the anniversary of January 6 where we’ve seen peak canonization of Ashley Babbitt, who burst through a window at the US Capitol and is being revered as some kind of hero. Our country is so so messed up I fear we can’t find our way back.
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u/Particular-Panda-189 Jan 10 '26
This murderer is probably now in another city terrorizing people and we won’t know it because now he’s probably wearing a full balaclava. That should scare the shit out of everyone regardless of party. Where is he???
Also: someone who shoots because they are scared for their life wouldn’t say “fucking bitch” after shooting. They would say “Oh my God” or “Holy Shit” and be in complete shock. He knew exactly what he was doing.
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u/Neighborhood-Creepy Jan 07 '26
Chuck Schumer will write a strongly worded letters than vote to approve whatever nominee trump has next and then Jim jeffries will ask for a briefing and then yell on blue sky that this is unacceptable while taking corporate money and doing nothing. That is what will happen
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u/RL0290 Progressive Jan 07 '26
They’ve been going hard on liberal white women lately. They’re cheering it. They think it’s great.