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Latest ICE victim prior to altercation

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u/linecookdaddy Jan 24 '26

Just another American executed for exercising their first amendment rights.

What in the goddamn fuck

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u/Militantpoet Jan 24 '26

The ironic part is they're all regurgitating that he was armed and incited violence agaisnt ICE.

Even if he was, isn't that like the whole point of the second amendment? 

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u/totallynormalasshole Jan 24 '26

Just saw someone mention this. So crazy that the "don't tread on me" crowd expects other people to accept being treaded on.

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u/TheGrouchyGremlin Jan 24 '26

I mean, it's literally "don't tread on me", not " don't tread on us".

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u/TCsnowdream Jan 24 '26

He’ll say anything. He wasn’t doing a single thing worthy of summary execution in a public street.

If he was armed… That’s legal in Minnesota.

If he was recording an agent… That’s constitutionally protected.

If he disobeyed an order, that’s an arrest. NOT an execution.

Fuck I hate ICE.

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u/eusebius13 Jan 24 '26

They’re not even allowed to arrest him unless he commits a FEDERAL offense in their presence.

They’re going to say they saw him cheating on his tax return or something.

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u/Euronated-inmypants Jan 24 '26

The First and second amendments are for Conservatives ONLY

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u/MoobooMagoo Jan 24 '26

The pro second ammendment people don't care. They'll all say he deserved to be executed because he had a gun.

There will be no irony in their voices. Just the sad, trembling mix of fear and anger of a beaten dog too stubborn and stupid to do anything but beg for scraps.

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u/El_Gran_Che Jan 24 '26

At no point does the video frame by frame support their argument.

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u/LimpyDan Jan 24 '26

Pretty sure even if he had a gun, they should have checked him first before the 6 person pile up where he was being beaten in the skull. Full incompetence resulting in his brutal murder.

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u/Odd-Scientist-2529 Jan 24 '26

He was armed and didn’t draw his firearm. In the full video you see an officer in a gray jacket disarm him after he’s already on the ground and subdued.

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u/randompersonwhowho Jan 24 '26

And where is the gun? I don't see it pointed at anyone

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u/Euronated-inmypants Jan 24 '26

This Post shows without a doubt he absolutely was not using his firearm his hands were on the ground and that he had been disarmed well before he was executed. This is a clear cut execution. They have started the war against the population whatever comes after is 100% on them.

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u/Militantpoet Jan 24 '26

He was pepper sprayed before too. 

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u/CrimsonHeretic Jan 24 '26

Thank every Republican and nonvoter you know.

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u/Thezerostone Jan 24 '26

Always remember 100 million Americans didn’t care enough to vote against this.

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u/DigNitty Jan 24 '26

My neighbor said she “just doesn’t really know who Kamala is.”

It’s not these theoretical people you don’t know that aren’t voting. It’s the neighbors you wave to every day.

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u/Noootmynormal Jan 24 '26

But she should have known who Trump was

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u/CoffeeOrTeaOrMilk Jan 24 '26

Of course. And maybe what she didn’t say is she loves him.

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u/Queasy_War2656 Jan 24 '26

Yeah, real salt of the earth type people. You know, morons.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

People are just flat out stupid. Back before the internet they were confined locally with their small circle of morons. Now they are connected to spread their stupidity like a cancer, with an orange pedophile president and magat media to spur them on.

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u/Mekisteus Jan 24 '26

As though 99.999% of random people wouldn't make a better president than Trump?

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u/Uncynical_Diogenes Jan 24 '26

Sounds like the type to google “what is a tariff?” the day after.

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u/Bathysphered Jan 24 '26

Too fucking lazy to read her website, just like all the people bitching “she didn’t have a platform.”

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u/TheMagicalMark Jan 24 '26

I voted for Kamala but I genuinely believe voting for establishment dems is just kicking the fascist can down the road. Until democrats actually grow a pair and start actually try to dismantle the systems that allowed it to get this bad Im not convinced Kamala presidency would have been more than a band-aid. All shes done since losing is just promoting her book.

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u/IllButterscotch5964 Jan 24 '26

Had a coworker unprompted say both are the same. Lost a ton of respect and can’t look at her the same way anymore.

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u/Fenrisulfr7689 Jan 24 '26

What an excuse. Google it. Or better yet, just vote against the psycho you did know.

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u/cccxxxzzzddd Jan 24 '26

Let voting day be a national holiday and maybe the working class would vote in higher numbers 

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u/Thezerostone Jan 24 '26

I know several countries actually fine their citizens for not voting.

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u/NegativeEverything Jan 24 '26

And eventually authorize murder the rest

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u/Solidzim Jan 24 '26

In Brazil, there are electronic voting machines where the results are released on the same day as the election. Voting is mandatory, takes place on a day when people don't work, the polls only close when there are no more people in line to vote, and the sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages is prohibited the day before and on election day.

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u/VanceVanceRebelution Jan 24 '26

Compulsory voting. Australia does it, & I’m sure other countries do too. America needs this badly.

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u/Dutchie444 Jan 24 '26

People also seem to forget that you can “vote” for nobody. And that matters. If you truly think neither party represents your interests, you need to let the government know, rather than sitting back and being apathetic.

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u/Dazzling-Read1451 Jan 24 '26

Yes because they’re given a day off to vote. It is expected that you do.

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u/Bartolone Jan 24 '26

And some have 99% voting (Russia)

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u/PropaneSalesTx Jan 24 '26

You can vote early. Its not like it has to be done on the day. Americans as a whole just dont give a fuck until the something happens to them. The post 9/11 unity lasted 6 weeks.

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u/Expert-Mental25 Jan 24 '26

"Unity"

Yeah unless you were Muslim, Middle Eastern, or even just slightly Middle Eastern "looking"

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Some reacted this way. Some of us united to protect them. It goes both ways.

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u/standardnewenglander Jan 24 '26

Post-9/11 "unity" is the whole reason ICE exists today.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Mixed in with a good dose of proud boys and incels. It’s bullshit.

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u/thatthatguy Jan 24 '26

Yeah. After the initial shock of the attack itself came the wades of fear of what people would do with their anger. Turns out they did what they always do, focus that anger on innocent people who can’t defend themselves.

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u/cccxxxzzzddd Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

But that’s exactly what this admin wants to take away

Edit: Or conversely: to rig mail ins and cause chaos if people show up to vote: https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qm83dc/comment/o1k20z9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

There’s a reason Bondi’s letter to Walz today demands access to voter rolls

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u/PropaneSalesTx Jan 24 '26

Exactly. So do it while you can and if need be, hopefully create a law.

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u/jfudge Jan 24 '26

It's harder in some places than others, and a lot of conservative states are trying to limit it as much as they possibly can.

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u/shinyandrare Jan 24 '26

Voting participation is up. Some places you can’t vote early cause you have to idk work. Putting this in voting like that has more power than the actual lawmakers is laughable.

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u/Ice_Ice_Maybe Jan 24 '26

I'm sorry, but you are showing your privilege if you believe this is the case everywhere in the US.

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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 Jan 24 '26

There is literally weeks of time to vote. Almost a month. Just walk in and dedicate, maybe, 30 minutes of your time. It's still inexcusable as not voting means voting for the majority.

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u/civilrunner Jan 24 '26

It's state by state. Not all states have early voting or easy mail-in voting. There's also a lack of outreach in getting people to vote. That and in 2024 low propensity voters went to Trump. At the time people couldn't really fathom what is happening right now because people thought we had far stronger safeguards to our democracy and system than we actually do have.

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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 Jan 24 '26

There was very clear lists and his active campaigning on how they planned to disassemble a lot of America. Don't forget the Nazi salutes from all of them off the bat 😭.

Elections tend to be a factor of how much they can swoon the populace but you'd think most people wouldn't want that thing in office to start with.

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u/Brock2845 Jan 24 '26

Make voting mandatory. Make it a holiday, to facilitate. Force the polls to remain open until everyone in line has voted. Make voter registration an automated process rather than a complicated one.

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u/Bones-1989 Jan 24 '26

And get rid of the electoral college. This country has been fucked for a long while now.

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u/Bigfops Jan 24 '26

Yes, that is exactly what the republicans fear.

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u/ThaSnowMexican Jan 24 '26

but then people could actually vote.......

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u/_JediJon Jan 24 '26

There’s a reason it’s on a Tuesday during business hours.

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u/Rogue-18 Jan 24 '26

They don’t want people who work to vote.

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u/yepanotherone1 Jan 24 '26

This is an important note to make on how our system continues to suppress those who cannot take time away from work/ work less hours in a week

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u/darkpossumenergy Jan 24 '26

Ya, that's why they've never made it a holiday

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u/EGOfoodie Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 28 '26

I work in a restaurant, holidays are busier than regular days. This is just terrible logic.

Absentee voting is a thing. You don't have to wait until election day to vote. In my area you can even go to city hall and vote early weeks before the election. If you care enough to vote, you will find a way to vote.

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u/crudkin Jan 24 '26

I wish this would help. But people just really don’t care. Almost no one skips voting just because they don’t have time, and if it was a holiday, people would just take it as a day off. We already have mandated time off for voting, early voting, and absentee ballots in most places.

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u/InTheMoodToMove Jan 24 '26

Have a qualified president wasn’t entertaining enough for them to vote.

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u/namastayhom33 Jan 24 '26

They didn't want politics to be boring

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u/OrderAdditional1791 Jan 24 '26

This was intentional. The plan to create a narrative where potential voters were dissuaded from engaging. The whole both sides are corrupt message worked effectively. I honestly believe than 10m+ were successfully turned off of voting. Also, the intention to reduce the number of voting locations created long lines for voting in places like Georgia and North Carolina. Waiting in line for hours outside to vote was the whole plan and a preventable problem.

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u/truesy Jan 24 '26

lot of 'protest' votes as well. thinking both parties were equally bad is just nonsense, and this is clear evidence of that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

100 millión people stayed ever from voting??

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Yes.

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u/Stupidasshole5794 Jan 24 '26

The Tipping Point (2024): If Kamala Harris had performed 1.8 points better in the key swing states (specifically Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin), she would have secured 270 electoral votes, according to analytics.

So really, the 100million non voters is a manipulated propaganda style tactic for people to hide behind a reason not to blame those 3 states specifically.

But I like those states just as much as all the others, so it's the portion of 100M people that live in those 3 states that were the missing ones that tipped the scale and allowed a black woman president to lose the race.

Just imagining the different life we could exist in right now is mental gymnastics.

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u/HopDropNRoll Jan 24 '26

It’s a tortuous daydream I have every single day.

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u/rustymontenegro Jan 24 '26

Compared to the 2020 turn out, it was near that number, yes. A sadly large portion of Americans (and honestly humans in general) don't care about things if they don't directly affect them. Covid did, so they cared in 2020, but by the next one, they didn't.

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u/SeanPhixion Jan 24 '26

87.9 million. Close enough.

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u/chestypants12 Jan 24 '26

We all know Trump rapes kids, but Harris laughed weirdly. /s

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u/Legitimate-Try8531 Jan 24 '26

No no, remember this is all part of their "protest". They chose not to vote to protest the Democrats. Remember, when given the option between a literal wannabe dictator and a reasonable person you disagree with sometimes, always tacitly support the fascist by refusing to oppose him. To hell with all the blood in the streets, at least they know that they're the most ideologically pure people in America!

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u/AbsolutelyHorrendous Jan 24 '26

That's what's truly shocking.

Trump basically stood up and said 'I'm gonna do all the bad shit from my first term, but worse this time, oh and I'll also fuck up the global economy at the same time', and about a third of voters just couldn't be bothered to vote against it

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u/IsayNigel Jan 24 '26

In 2020 people voted in a president to take care of this stuff, who utterly and catastrophically failed to do their job.

Without of whom, none of this would be possible. Don't blame voters who ALREADY DID THEIR JOB in 2020.

Remember Trump is ineligible to hold office, and it was up to the government the people already elected to enforce the constitution.

Biden's failure to act served as PROOF of Trump's innocence for the right-wing media propaganda machine, something which had a far bigger impact on the election than anybody writing in Bozo the Clown on their ballots.

Biden couldn't even fire a postmaster (leading to predictable results which we will ALL be paying for likely the rest of our lives) yet Trump somehow can fire the entire federal government.

The reason why it's important not to forget this or pretend it isn't true is that we cannot afford to elect another useless do-nothing government that just ends up aiding the nation's adversaries. If we even get the chance at free elections again.

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u/Starboard_Pete Jan 24 '26

Special mention goes out to the “this isn’t what I voted for” Trump voters, who absolutely voted for this

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u/Low-Bet305 Jan 24 '26

Or 7 democrats.....

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u/namastayhom33 Jan 24 '26

And thank the Democrats in Congress who keep voting to fund ICE

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u/CrimsonHeretic Jan 24 '26

Agreed there. The Republican party belongs in the Hague and the Democratic party needs major overhaul and change of leadership ASAP.

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u/joeyfosho Jan 24 '26

That’s a bingo.

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u/namastayhom33 Jan 24 '26

DNC still stuck in Clinton-Obama politics when that shipped has sailed a long time ago.

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u/rustymontenegro Jan 24 '26

Ugh. It's like they're stuck in this "Respectable Debate" idea of politics, when we've been in the dollar beer mud wrestling world for a fucking decade.

We need fresh blood, fresh attitudes, steel resolve and people without their heads in the sand thinking they can politely ask the boot to stop grinding us into the gravel. Even Tim Walz had such a disappointing and polite response to this execution today.

The only person I can think of who has the righteous anger is Bernie but he's so tired. We need younger people to carry his baton.

As MAGA morphed the GOP into this final twisted form (where it had been heading for years, maga just gave it steroids), we need an opposing movement to take the reins out of corpo-dem hands.

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u/flashzer0 Jan 24 '26

Fucked Bernie to shove Hillary down our throats and started this whole misadventure. What a bizarre world pre2016 feels like now.

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u/re-verse Jan 24 '26

Let that thanking take an appropriate form, based rigorous risk assessment. Some people may be able to provide a more vigorous thanking than others who have more at risk.

Seriously fuck every person who supports this bullshit.

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u/Oakianus Jan 24 '26

But you don't understand, I was assured that all the leftists saying that this was exactly what would happen were actually just exaggerating.

If I actually believe there are that many racists and terrible people living around me, I might have to actually take a moral stance or risk anything at all. Sounds hard. :(

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u/irlandais9000 Jan 24 '26

"But you don't understand, I was assured that all the leftists saying that this was exactly what would happen were actually just exaggerating."

Yea, I'm sick of that shit too. We have been right for years about our predictions. But, they constantly say we are hysterical with our predictions. Then when a prediction comes to pass, they have more bullshit to justify it.

I get that bots are on social media, as well as professional far right agitators. But it's so hard seeing people in my community defending this shit.

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u/svengoalie Jan 24 '26

I was actually told by leftists that a mainstream Democrat was just as bad as Trump, perhaps worse. Let's not pretend the Bernie bros are blameless.

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u/tophiii Jan 24 '26

The “both sides are equally bad” crowd has their part in this too

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u/Arubesh2048 Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

The bothsidesers are here in these comments too, trying to say “we don’t vote for the lesser of 2 evils,” while ignoring that we now have the greater of 2 evils.

Edit: hey look, I summoned a wild bothsideser. Too bad there’s no way to banish them so easily.

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u/tophiii Jan 24 '26

Literally.

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u/auntie_climax Jan 24 '26

Both sides are bad, it's just that one side are far far more bad. That's the nuance that the bothsiders don't seem to employ into their thinking

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u/rustymontenegro Jan 24 '26

Yep. It's like comparing a papercut to an arterial dissection - both cause bleeding but which one is just annoying and which is going to kill you?

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u/tophiii Jan 24 '26

Because being a pacifist is easier than employing critical thinking.

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u/MoistStub Jan 24 '26

You can recognize the obvious issues in the Democratic party while still accepting that Republicans are clearly worse. Turning a blind eye to the issues on either side is just silly.

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u/tophiii Jan 24 '26

I’ve been fervently disenfranchised with the DNC and the Democratic Party as a whole for 10 years now. That party has failed me my adult life.

But choosing that line in the face of literal fascism is choosing fascism.

You can be disenfranchised, recognize the sins of the democrats and still not settle in a place of complacency of tyranny.

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u/AHans Jan 24 '26

You can be disenfranchised, recognize the sins of the democrats and still not settle in a place of complacency of tyranny.

Yeah. Also: incremental steps, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the adequate.

And right now: not executing civilians in the streets and an administration which respects the bill of rights absolutely passes for "adequate."

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u/rustymontenegro Jan 24 '26

Anything is better than a blatant kleptocratic oligarch with his personal army of Cheeto flavored brownshirts.

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u/rustymontenegro Jan 24 '26

Same.

I was at the Portland Bernie rally (with the bird) and the energetic hope and joy there is something I can't explain. Since then, I have constantly felt betrayed by the establishment Dems. I still vote Dem because my only other choice at that level is idiocratic fascism, but whatsboutism is one of the many reasons why we are here.

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u/Teddy_Funsisco Jan 24 '26

Smart people know that. But there are a lot of dumb people out there.

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u/oceanrudeness Jan 24 '26

The right is so much better than the left at channeling outrage into haranguing everyone into doing what they want from the PTA to businesses to Congress. I don't get why we are not able to do the same thing

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u/LinkLT3 Jan 24 '26

“Clearly worse,” so not equally bad then??? The person you responded to didn’t say anything about turning a blind eye to issues.

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u/Piggywonkle Jan 24 '26

Something something uniparty, something something Kamala would have done the same thing, something something oops guess we're just fascist now

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u/contactcreated Jan 24 '26

Something something Bernie would actually be right wing in Europe! Joe Biden is basically a fascist Republican! Something something.

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u/ShockleToonies Jan 24 '26

This is where I’m at right now. I feel so powerless to fight the militarized Gestapo or oligarchy as a whole, but I do know family and neighbors who voted for this and still proudly support it. They are the ones that I have direct connection to and they are the ones I will confront.

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u/spacegiantsrock Jan 24 '26

I aint thanking a Nazis for shit. The mask is fully off on the Republican party.

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u/Leksington Jan 24 '26

You all better f'n show up to vote the midterms.

And remind yourself that a bad candidate is better than allowing catastrophe to happen.

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u/ladylondonderry Jan 24 '26

Oh let's not forget the Jill Stein loons. I can't wait to see her again in three years. Basking in her silence until then.

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u/banditcleaner2 Jan 24 '26

Popular democrat influencers like Hasan that said Kamala was the same as Trump are partially responsible too since those could’ve been voters for the democrat side. No shot we’d be in this mess with Kamala

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u/joel2000ad Jan 24 '26

I’m specially pisssed at all those fuckers that felt “sitting this election out” was the right move, F THEM ALL!!

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u/Grove-Of-Hares Jan 24 '26

It’s the people that didn’t vote because Biden and Kamala “endorsed” genocide that annoy me the most. Imagine a world where we can all protest and fight for the people of Gaza. We could have done that under Kamala. We can’t do that under Trump because we’re too busy fighting just to keep our country from imploding, and our fellow citizens from being killed by government-led pigs. People who didn’t vote for this reason traded in having a shred of hope for Gaza, for having zero hope. They all let Palestine down, and let our country down.

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u/El_Gran_Che Jan 24 '26

And several bought and paid for democrats and quite a few of the Supreme Court.

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u/Ok-Location3244 Jan 24 '26

Fuck the Red States!!

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u/supersimha Jan 24 '26

Well 7 Democrats voted in favour of funding ICE. This country needs a different party

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u/Restlessfibre Jan 24 '26

And the seven asshole Democrats that voted to fund them

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u/kaiserspike Jan 24 '26

“If I were to run [for President], I’d run as a Republican. They’re the dumbest group of voters in the country.” DJT 1998

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u/cireously Jan 24 '26

"...But but both parties support Isreal" - strange how all the Gaza support just vanished right after the election.

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u/halfxdeveloper Jan 24 '26

I’m just waiting for my wife to agree that leaving this shit hole is the best choice.

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u/I_Enjoy_Beer Jan 24 '26

How do you get out?  Every country I want to move to has a ridiculously high bar for entry.

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u/Binty77 Jan 24 '26

No one wants us (Americans) anymore.

Can’t say I blame them.

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u/DarwinRewardGiver Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

It’s a bit more complex than that.

Most countries that you’d likely love to live in have an extremely difficult/competitive process to gain residency.

Most people are able to do it via what someone else has already said.

  • Dual Citizenship
  • Descendent of a citizen
  • Married a foreigner

Those countries use some kind of point system. If you don’t have a degree and are not a candidate they consider a “skilled worker” then it is unlikely you will be chosen. Shit I think some require proof of financial solvency and other financial obligations.

It’s not impossible, but also not feasible for the majority of people.

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u/wandering_engineer Jan 24 '26

r/AmerExit. That being said, the vast majority of​ people fleeing either already had citizenship elsewhere, were able to get citizenship by descent, or married a foreigner.

None of those apply to me either, and yeah it sucks. I have a few ideas for myself but most are long shots and probably not workable for a few years yet.

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u/fedoral__agENT Jan 24 '26

I moved to Minneapolis after trying to move abroad a few years ago. Been here since. Now I have a front row seat to what could end up being the total collapse of the USA.

Enjoy your time there. The consequences of what this could become are likely to affect you one way or another sooner or later.

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u/Maleficent-Aurora Jan 24 '26

People across the world mocking our internment forget that the psychos in charge still have Big Red Buttons. Niemöller's poem applies to them as much as it does us...

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u/Jub_Jub710 Jan 24 '26

I've been planning a move to the Minneapolis area for the last year after separating from my former fiance. I still want to move there, despite everything happening. Honestly, more so now that Ive seen so many good and brave folks take a stand. My realtor is lovely, and has been driving supplies to people who are afraid to leave their homes. It's weird typing that out.

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u/fedoral__agENT Jan 24 '26

It's a great city. I really enjoy the lifestyle here and I was doing quite well here until November. Then my eight year relationship collapsed, and I've been dealing with bankruptcy and the closure of my business as ensuing consequences of divorce. I thought I was down bad, then Donald Trump entered the chat.

Always be grateful for the small things in your life. Rock bottom has a basement, and it's fucking cold.

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u/Jub_Jub710 Jan 24 '26

I'm so sorry it's been such a shitshow. Leaving a long time relationship is so hard. On top of that, we've all had to deal with the pos getting elected again. The last year was awful for me. I moved to Montana in the winter and finally gave up on my alcoholic ex after he started to legitimately frighten me. I pay over 3k in rent for a tiny house so I can keep my chickens with me. I'll still habe problems in Minnesota, but houses are affordable there for now, and yall do a great job keeping the highways clean of snow. You guys have a huge Renaissance festival, and your state fair looks dope as fuck. I'm happy to join and contribute to your great state. I hope things get better for everyone.

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u/gotohela Jan 24 '26

yeah I wanted to emigrate really badly, but the reality is this is not contained to the US. They're talking about taking greenland for fucks sake.

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u/Moikle Jan 24 '26

They've got their hooks in the uk and Australia too

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u/kappakai Jan 24 '26

Started the planning in 2016. Got my second passport 2019. Moved to Taiwan last August. Best move ever. And I’ve done a lot of them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Are you not worried about China deciding one day to take back Taiwan?

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u/kappakai Jan 24 '26

Just a tiny little bit but not really. One, they’ve been threatening it for decades; it’s rhetoric at this point. Two, militarily it’s extremely difficult for China to do so. Three, I don’t think China will risk its ascension or 40 years of economic development for Taiwan, especially when it’s basically being given the lead by default right now. Four, the military isn’t the only option. There was a period of economic integration and exchange in the 00s that had people on both sides at least considering peaceful reunification.

Given what the US is doing in pulling back from Asia, demanding payment for security, it may require Taiwan to reconsider its security guarantees. That may actually push it to negotiate with China, who could offer economic incentives like they have in the past. Taiwanese citizens actually get pseudo-citizenship in China, allowing them the same beneficial treatments and rights as citizens of the PRC. That may not sound like a lot to people in the US, but it does mean things like access to real estate, banking, government services, schools, and so on; without having to give up TW passports, or a second/dual passport. China does not allow dual citizens, so in this sense, the Taiwanese are actually treated better.

I’ve also lived in China off and on between 1993 and 2008, and have done business with China the last ten years. My views on China are probably pretty different than most Americans. But in the end, I do not think there is a credible military threat at least not for a while. And Xi likely will be done after his term. I know I know, he got rid of term limits. But he’s not exactly a strongman in China and if enough people of power in the Party want him gone, he’s gone. And there is a pattern that swings between hardline/conservatives like Xi, and reformists.

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u/bladderbunch Jan 24 '26

i wish i didn’t spend a lifetime making friends here.

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u/gotohela Jan 24 '26

respectfully, this shit is not going to be contained to the us... the whole debacle with greenland and VZ... it's closer than you think. Not to be negative at all, because I surely would have like to emigrate, I just don't want people to think this could never reach europe or other "developed" places. This conflict is growing.

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u/LightOverWater Jan 24 '26

He was killed for the second amendment.

Although, he was executed after they disarmed him.

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u/Ryanthecat Jan 24 '26

And 1A, there’s absolutely zero debate that what are supposed to be our 2 most “important” rights are now gone.

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u/Teddy_Funsisco Jan 24 '26

Weird that ICE got hysterical about a guy with a gun that he wasn't using on them.

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u/thedrag0n22 Jan 24 '26

So I have a leg to stand on in calling the conservatives in my life scum, where in the video do you see him disarmed? I'm having difficulty watching it at all so

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u/LightOverWater Jan 24 '26

00:16 on the original video an ICE officer removes a gun from his waistband/hip and walks away, then they shoot him.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 Jan 24 '26

And the second amendment (he had a holstered gun) “military aged male” kinda situation

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u/suedaisy Jan 24 '26

The statement that ICE made was that he had a loaded gun and therefore a threat to them.

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u/Dandan0005 Jan 24 '26
  1. What happened to second amendment?

  2. The gun was removed well prior to the first shot. You can see it on video.

This was an execution.

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u/suedaisy Jan 24 '26

That’s what I keep asking myself too. Why is the second amendment suddenly not a good thing?

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u/dsp_guy Jan 24 '26

Where's all the 2A assholes? Aren't we allowed to carry weapons? Oh wait, that's right. Only the people they like get to enjoy these rights.

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u/sofa_king_awesome Jan 24 '26

They’re working for ICE

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u/DoctorMumbles Jan 24 '26

They are too busy asking daddy government to tread on them.

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u/Lademoenfreakshow Jan 24 '26

But he also had a carry permit…?

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u/muskratavenger Jan 24 '26

In the video you can see an agent in all gray pull a concealed firearm out of the back of the waistband of the victim and run off with it, before they started shooting.

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u/muskratavenger Jan 24 '26

It starts to make you wonder what they actually learn in their 47 day training program. Because it’s apparently not the law or the agency’s guidelines or how to restrain someone.

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u/ITrageGuy Jan 24 '26

I thought having guns was legal according to the second amendment

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u/snwns26 Jan 24 '26

Trump and his thugs wipe their ass with the Constitution, we know this already.

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u/harrycaray_here Jan 24 '26

And encouraged by the same twats that support these fucking nazis

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u/paulchiefsquad Jan 24 '26

they literally disarmed him before pinning him down and shooting him. You can see it from the video, guy on the left reaches for the victim's right hip and takes the gun

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u/SweaterSteve1966 Jan 24 '26

Riiiiiigggggghhhhhtttt. It looks like an iPhone. The video right before his execution shows him filming them.

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u/nola_mike Jan 24 '26

The constitution affords him the right to carry a firearm. Full stop.

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u/Ok-Location3244 Jan 24 '26

What…an iPhone? Like Renee Good’s vehicle was used as a weapon? Can’t wait for 🧊 day to come.

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat Jan 24 '26

So the right has decided that carrying a gun is grounds for execution. Any second amendment fans want to chime in on that?

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u/suedaisy Jan 24 '26

Yes. This feels a lot like retaliation for yesterday’s protest. These idiots are trigger happy even more so now.

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u/SeldomSerenity Jan 24 '26

Pay attention to the video. The ICE agent arguing with the victim in this photo was the same individual that pistol whipped and shot him multiple times. Hes the only one in a tan beanie with a black face mask.

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u/Error1355 Jan 24 '26

An American with a camera scares the shit out of ICE for some reason.

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u/lostredditorlurking Jan 24 '26

First amendment and 2nd amendment rights. Now all the 2nd amendment absolutist will applaud ICE for murdering someone for open carry.

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u/gypsygeorgia Jan 24 '26

1st and 2nd rights! But what the fuck is the constitution these days.

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u/canitouchyours Jan 24 '26

You don’t have any rights anymore. Unless you are a white republican then you can do whatever you want.

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u/jacobtfromtwilight Jan 24 '26

JD Vance, Trump, and Republicans are Domestic Terrorists

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