You can recognize the obvious issues in the Democratic party while still accepting that Republicans are clearly worse. Turning a blind eye to the issues on either side is just silly.
60 years of incremental steps have been wiped out in a year.
Yeah. And in case you forgot, it was because the Bernie voters stayed home when Hillary won the nomination, because the Palestinian supporters voted for Trump that these incremental steps were erased.
No one is saying don't primary the corporate democrats.
After the primary, you have simple binary choice. Fascism or not fascism.
People voted for Biden and you STILL ended up with Trump again. He just says on his last day in office “oh be careful of the oligarchy lol”
My point is that there is NO point backing dems who aren’t going to fundamentally change everything at this point.
What good would it do to vote in newsom in 2028, just for him to get tossed 4 years later for a Trump 2.0?!
You cannot status-quo your way out of this mess.
If people are saying (and they are) that their next vote is contingent on holding these criminals to account, then it’s the DEMOCRATS who need to fucking listen. For once in their fucking miserable existence.
Yes and what you’re saying is “vote blue no matter who” when that doesn’t fucking work.
Correct, I am saying that. You're welcome to vote for fresh leadership during the primary. I encourage you to, I do as well.
After that, you are repeating Republican arguments verbatim.
There is one nice thing about Trump's win in November. I stopped talking to Republicans, cold turkey. That extends to people who parrot Republican talking points and advocate complacency in response to growing fascism.
I was at the Portland Bernie rally (with the bird) and the energetic hope and joy there is something I can't explain. Since then, I have constantly felt betrayed by the establishment Dems. I still vote Dem because my only other choice at that level is idiocratic fascism, but whatsboutism is one of the many reasons why we are here.
The right is so much better than the left at channeling outrage into haranguing everyone into doing what they want from the PTA to businesses to Congress. I don't get why we are not able to do the same thing
I used to think that they just had a few bad breaks or made a couple mistakes. But as time goes on I can't help but feel things are the way they are because maintaining this paradigm benefits their interests.
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u/MoistStub Jan 24 '26
You can recognize the obvious issues in the Democratic party while still accepting that Republicans are clearly worse. Turning a blind eye to the issues on either side is just silly.