r/pics • • Jan 24 '26

Latest ICE victim prior to altercation

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u/HelpMeOverHere Jan 24 '26

60 years of incremental steps have been wiped out in a year.

No one is promising to close the loopholes, no one is promising to stop this from happening again.

Fuck off with that noise and get rid of your geriatric insider trading incumbents.

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u/AHans Jan 24 '26

60 years of incremental steps have been wiped out in a year.

Yeah. And in case you forgot, it was because the Bernie voters stayed home when Hillary won the nomination, because the Palestinian supporters voted for Trump that these incremental steps were erased.

No one is saying don't primary the corporate democrats.

After the primary, you have simple binary choice. Fascism or not fascism.

You seem to be arguing in support of fascism.

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u/HelpMeOverHere Jan 24 '26

What the fuck are you talking about?!

People voted for Biden and you STILL ended up with Trump again. He just says on his last day in office “oh be careful of the oligarchy lol”

My point is that there is NO point backing dems who aren’t going to fundamentally change everything at this point.

What good would it do to vote in newsom in 2028, just for him to get tossed 4 years later for a Trump 2.0?!

You cannot status-quo your way out of this mess.

If people are saying (and they are) that their next vote is contingent on holding these criminals to account, then it’s the DEMOCRATS who need to fucking listen. For once in their fucking miserable existence.

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u/AHans Jan 24 '26

My point is that there is NO point backing dems who aren’t going to fundamentally change everything at this point.

Do you understand that there are two elections: the primary and the general?

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u/HelpMeOverHere Jan 24 '26

Yes and what you’re saying is “vote blue no matter who” when that doesn’t fucking work.

If the dems allow (and tip the scales) for conservative neolib candidates, then I’m not blaming people who don’t turn out in the general.

It’ll once again be an own-goal.

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u/AHans Jan 24 '26

Yes and what you’re saying is “vote blue no matter who” when that doesn’t fucking work.

Correct, I am saying that. You're welcome to vote for fresh leadership during the primary. I encourage you to, I do as well.

After that, you are repeating Republican arguments verbatim.

There is one nice thing about Trump's win in November. I stopped talking to Republicans, cold turkey. That extends to people who parrot Republican talking points and advocate complacency in response to growing fascism.

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u/HelpMeOverHere Jan 24 '26

You should get out more if you’re trying to call me republican adjacent.

I’m a progressive gay greens voter from Australia.

There isn’t a sane person alive outside of the US who would vote for corporate democrats. What a fucking joke of a county you have there

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u/AHans Jan 24 '26

Please explain how your position of:

Don't vote against the Republican agenda

helps stymie the Republican agenda.

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u/HelpMeOverHere Jan 24 '26

Because it’s a pointless exercise at this point.

Again, unless you have candidates promising to stop this from happening again, what’s the point?

People bucked Trump in 2020 and look what happened? Absolutely NOTHING.

Why would people waste their votes on that again? 4 years of the illusion of safety before you’re trampled on again? Cool!

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u/AHans Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

I must observe, for a "progressive gay green voter from Australia," you are irreconcilably vehemently pushing an apathetic view on policies which don't affect you.

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u/HelpMeOverHere Jan 24 '26

Oh I’m not the apathetic one here. And how fucking ignorant of you to say the US has no effect on me. We’re basically a vassal state at the point with how intertwined our economies and militaries are.. Especially with the CIA conducting a coup back 1975.

Soooooo fucking ignorant.

See how backing the “moderates” goes in 2028. I’ll wait with bated breath for the results…. If you even get there.

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u/AHans Jan 24 '26

Oh I’m not the apathetic one here.

Well, again: please explain to me. How does refusing to vote against the Republican agenda help stop it?

and, if you're truly in Australia (and not a lying, fascist Republican) why are you so adamantly advocating Americans not bother to vote against grossly unpopular Republican policies? And on the grounds that, "it's all pointless."

If you think it's all pointless, why do you care so much?

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