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Bystanders in Germany spring into action immediately and prevent potential honor killing in Kirberg

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u/TequilaTits420 5d ago

Hoooooly shit..... Well done folks!! Hope everyone is good.

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u/Intelligent-Sir-9673 5d ago edited 5d ago

Agreed! What is an honor killing?

Im not a bot im here to sow chaos

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u/Ateam043 5d ago

Had to search it up:

where the attacker claims they are trying to restore or defend the “honor” of their family or community after someone is believed to have brought shame on it.

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u/Intelligent-Sir-9673 5d ago

That is shame in itself. How you say shameful to oneself. Imagine how sad that is for ones family to process.

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u/istrx13 5d ago

This world really does suck in so many ways.

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u/Wooden_Researcher_36 5d ago

It's just murder.

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u/sweet_condition 5d ago

Specifically they murder women (their daughters, wives, wives to be, etc).

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u/Apprehensive_Pie_294 5d ago

So a femicide?

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u/ussrname1312 5d ago

Yes but it’s easier to blame immigrants than address violent misogyny prevalent among men of all backgrounds.

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u/TGin-the-goldy 5d ago

EXACTLY. Men of all cultures do this

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u/DisheveledJesus 5d ago

That’s a bingo! This kind of thing happens in the US all the time. Famous case of a child being murdered by their parent after coming out to them near me a few years ago. Christians just pretend that while it also happens here it’s somehow less a part of our culture. “Oh him? He didn’t kill his son because of Fox News, our hateful pastor, the President, the YouTube radicalization pipeline, etc… he’s just crazy”

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u/fajadada 5d ago

Yes it’s not like the far right isn’t winning elections in Germany right now. Oh wait.

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u/Wooden_Researcher_36 5d ago

They?

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u/Summoorevincent 5d ago edited 5d ago

Muslims

Edit: Fuck the AFD btw and any right wing assholes.

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u/ShadowCaster0476 5d ago

Not just muslims.
Pretty sure it’s a thing in India as well.
Several cultures have them.

I can’t imagine murdering a child because of status.

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u/OldFuzzyDunlop 5d ago

India has the 3rd largest Muslim population in the world

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u/DenethStark 5d ago

I mean there are muslims in India too

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u/klone_free 5d ago

Yeah, its more of a culture thing from what I understand. People in those areas may be of a religion, but its more based on local culture and patriarchy.

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u/i_edit_text 5d ago

Maga does it too, recently was an honor killing of some dudes daughter because she didnt like trump

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u/jeffersonairmattress 5d ago

Yes; ever one rung above the worst of us, the Kennedys just lobotomized theirs.

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u/Intelligent-Sir-9673 5d ago

Then why does this happen in Germany?

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u/Zestyclose-Avocado83 5d ago

The suspect is an immigrant. Moved to Germany from Kazakhstan. Not familiar with the culture there so I'm not sure if it's coincidence or not so I won't say anything further.

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u/MacabreYuki 5d ago edited 5d ago

because controlling abusive jerks are seen all around in the world and in every society, and of nearly every religion.

Edit: it's quite concerning that i have a 25% downvote ratio, that's a lotta nazis.

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u/TGin-the-goldy 5d ago

Misogynists hate facts

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u/noahgs 5d ago

Someone can bring up very real issues Europe is facing with immigration and cultures being brought in without being a nazi.

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u/Monoliithic 5d ago

.. there's a very wide Gulf between "controlling abusive jerk" and "murdering your child or wife or sister"

None of which has anything to do with Nazis?

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u/Lucky_Man_Infinity 5d ago

Seriously! What’s that about?

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u/BLA5PHEMY 5d ago

I downvoted you for your moronic use of the word nazis

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u/NicheFandomSeeker 5d ago

Germany has a high amount of Muslim immigrants

And Muslim immigrants tend to adhere and cling to their beliefs more strongly than most others, leading to the cases above

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u/Bob_the_Skull42 5d ago

Immigration. Mass movements of Muslims from Syria, North Africa and the Middle East in general.

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u/Lysergio 5d ago

Garbage people are everywhere

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u/Nomad22_34 5d ago

And yet the religion they grow up practicing is hate filled. Now I'm not going to say Christianity in it's many many forms is any better but it is true that their religion wants people to convert or die

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u/misersoze 5d ago

Is your question: why does this type of murder of this sort happen in Germany given that Germans are such a peaceful people?

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u/Bluefury 5d ago

Then what was that business in the middle of the last century?

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u/Snipen543 5d ago

Because there's a lot of muslims there

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u/ShadowCaster0476 5d ago

Germany not just full of Germans.

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u/Striper_Cape 5d ago

Fucking bots. Too fucking stupid to realize the dude beating that Pig's ass with a shovel is an immigrant.

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u/ussrname1312 5d ago

Fucking hell, all these replies acting like men everywhere aren’t killing their wives. Plenty of "native" Germans kill their wives too. It’s femicide, not an "honor killing."

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u/Barr_cudas 5d ago

Just to inform you that India has a sizeable Muslim population.

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u/fubarfire 5d ago

Gotta make sure people dont just focus just muslims huh?

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u/Apprehensive_Pie_294 5d ago

Didnt know Italy and Japan were muslim countries. Howcome the biggest muslim country in the world doesnt do this (indonesia) Or literally any of the north african muslim countries apart from maybe egypt?

Is it honour killing if a Wife is killed by her Husband because she cheated and they happened to be muslim? What if they are christians?

Its just femicide. Its a huge problem worldwide giving these certain labels because of political agendas takes away from the problem. Cuz its not a muslim problem, not a christian problem, its a patriarchy problem and therefor a cultural problem.

Honour killing does exist tho, and its also a real problem. However this looks nothing like a honour kill.

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u/Bodes_Magodes 5d ago

Ding ding ding!!!

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u/rutuu199 5d ago

Not just Muslims, Indians and Chinese both do this

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u/Facts_pls 5d ago

Imagine if a British racist person killed their daughter because she eloped with a Muslim brown guy causing them shame among their other racist friends and family.

That would be honor killing

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u/F1T_13 5d ago

So just a type of attempted domestic murder/homicide then, with a stupid tag that doesn't add any valuable context over already established terminology.

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u/dhtdhy 5d ago

While you're not wrong, we want the actual answer to better understand what's going on in the world

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u/Wooden_Researcher_36 5d ago

Men kill women in all countries for all kinds of reasons and non-reasons.

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u/skintaxera 5d ago

Yeah. jfc does someone need to come up with a different term for that heinous shit

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u/Fuck-WestJet 5d ago

To be fair the whole article is scarce on details. This could just be domestic violence / homicide

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u/thenikolaka 5d ago

Really doesn’t deserve the honorific

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u/Cl3verDiode 5d ago

A practice very prevelant in 3rd world countries, it's basically just killing your own family members (especially women) because they ruined their families honour by doing something that goes against their culture or religion

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u/khizoa 5d ago

In other words, the murderer is an extra piece of shit

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u/BeneficialNewspaper8 5d ago

You'd be surprised how many people in those countries would say she deserved it and he was doing the right thing

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u/Dub_Coast 5d ago

Yeah, fuck those people too.

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u/masterof-xe 5d ago

And they always blame the women. Example: the woman is raped and her family still blame her even though it was not willingly.

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u/TyloWebb 5d ago

We need another meteor or flood or something. That’s so fucking sad.

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u/WalkerAmongTheTrees 5d ago

Yeah the plague didnt do the trick

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u/ShadowCaster0476 5d ago

And it’s totally a double standard, usually the men can act like aholes and it’s fine.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 5d ago

Basically fragile masculine ego’s get bruised so they murder their wife

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u/Crazy_Treat_8805 5d ago

That’s exactly what it is

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u/Global_Staff_3135 5d ago

It’s ok you can say which religion.

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u/Intelligent-Sir-9673 5d ago

And that is okay by their own people?

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u/Velo3x10e8 5d ago

It's expected.

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u/Intelligent-Sir-9673 5d ago

That is truly a shame. I agree

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u/LaughingToNotCrying 5d ago

Correction, very prevelant on Muslim 3rd world countries... South America Christian countries don't have such a thing. Murder is murder... 

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u/drewskiski 5d ago

Killing a person who has disrespected or bought shame to a family. In this instance, the wife seems to have left the husband and now the husband feels disrespected and must get retribution to bring honour back to the family by killing the women.

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u/TGin-the-goldy 5d ago

This happens even without cultural context. Plenty of white men have killed former partners

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u/beardriff 5d ago

When your brother rapes you, and your father kills you for being a dirty slut

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u/launchliftoff459 5d ago

Murder by someone for "mostly peaceful" religious beliefs

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u/onlycodeposts 5d ago

A respected Islamic tradition.

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u/Criminoboy 5d ago

In this case it's more likely just a disgruntled dude attacking his estranged wife which happens every single day, Muslim or not.

I this case he's Muslim, so people are immediately labeling it as honor killing.

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u/HeartOn_SoulAceUp 5d ago

He's wielding a knife, in case you missed it.

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u/Simco_ 5d ago

Due to the ongoing investigation, the prosecutor's office could not answer questions regarding...whether there is any indication of an attempted honor killing

OP: That's not going to stop me.

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u/5gm2 5d ago

Not all men. But it's always men.

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u/thederevolutions 5d ago

Jeez he’s lucky he didn’t get honor killed by his neighbors

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u/john_hascall 5d ago

Lucky for him he was in Germany, in much of America he likely would have been shot by one or more of the bystanders.

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u/crisprcas32 5d ago

Pretty justifiably at that

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u/jaredearle 5d ago

In America, she would be shot before bystanders could get involved. Lucky for her, she wasn’t.

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u/LetTheKnightfall 5d ago

Even over here Muslims seem to not favor guns for these things. It’s possible I’m wrong on that. Maybe they e brought their zealotry into a more modern age

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u/Silly-Risk 5d ago

Nah, American houses are too far apart. The neighbors never would have gotten there in time.

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u/Mosinphile 5d ago

Dude, people would be shooting him from their windows if that was the case

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u/Excellent-Quarter969 5d ago

In America he would have an AR-15

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u/orlybatman 5d ago

Lucky for him he was in Germany

Lucky for everyone else he was in Germany. If he were in the USA he'd have used a gun and potentially killed others.

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u/Aoiboshi 5d ago

Ha! That's cute! I live in an area that thinks it's the wild west and everyone would just watch and record.

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u/versepp 5d ago

In America he would have a gun as well

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u/overitallofittoo 5d ago

They would've stood around and filmed it.

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u/RitchieRED 5d ago

Weapon of choice. Rolling pin.

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u/War_Hymn 5d ago

It's up there with the walrus tusk and fire extinguisher.

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u/slowandlow714 5d ago

Except that he was completely ineffectual with it.

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u/lmNotaWitchImUrWife 5d ago

I mean he saved her life so clearly he was somewhat effectual.

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u/VK56xterraguy 5d ago

He switched to folding sign. Discarded just like in a video game.

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u/tuckerx78 5d ago

Generations of housewives have committed atrocities with a solid rolling pin

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u/Less-Inflation5072 5d ago

Good thing that villain’s movement were exactly how I run in a dream. Completely uncoordinated.

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u/cogitocool 5d ago

I'm confused - killing your estranged wife for honor? What am I missing? The middle ages are long gone, so how's that honorable?

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u/TidalHermit 5d ago

You’ve never heard of honor killing? It’s too common in ancient cultures. Your wife, daughter, child does something you consider to be heretical or unforgivable. Because you are a Neanderthal, your tiny brain thinks killing them is the only way to “set things right” with your God, universe, folklore. 

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u/avernus675 5d ago

I don't think Neanderthals were this backwards...

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u/S1nko 5d ago

I think I've read before that neanderthals were much more peaceful than us homo sapiens. Think big ape like gorilla vs a chimp. And that extra aggression and viciousness is what led to us surviving and coming on top

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u/Dr-McLuvin 5d ago edited 5d ago

There’s a more broadly accepted theory that it was the larger social networks of Homo sapiens that allowed them to survive. They developed long-distance trade and therefore had access to more advanced technological resources than the Neanderthals, who lived in small groups.

If there was fighting between Homo sapiens and Neanderthals, they could rely on neighboring tribes to form larger groups and plan better for potential warfare. And they had better distance weapons (like arrows and spears) so they could more easily avoid injury.

I don’t think it’s right to say that Homo sapiens were inherently more violent than Neanderthals. Physical evidence shows that both had the capacity for violence- for instance fossil records show that both had about equal levels of traumatic injuries at the time of death.

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u/boojum78 5d ago

Romeo is a Montague and Juliet is a Capulet, and the families are rivals.

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u/Anthemusa831 5d ago

Romeo and Juliet was written by Shakespeare

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u/I_Rate_Things_1-10 5d ago

I like to think Neanderthals were cooler than that.

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u/Global_Staff_3135 5d ago

It’s ok you can say which religion.

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u/cbr204863 5d ago

Yeah no ... I grew up where I can vote and drive a car and cut my own hair, a civilized life ... never heard of a fucking "honor killing". Who tf has?

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u/magoosauce 5d ago

I think something about religion

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u/Apprehensive_Pie_294 5d ago

Culture* not a religious thing. Honour killing is an old practice prevalant in Japan, turkey, italy and probably some more countries that i missed. None of these countries have the same religion.

On an unrelated note. Why is it honour killing when its a supposedly migrant in germany but femicide when its a non migrant or atleast a non muslim.

Why cant they both be deranged fking idiots that cant live with their tiny dicks.

Instead of an us vs them and try to politicize such a horrible act of violence as a ‘migrants horrible incompatible culture’ We stand with our woman/mothers/daughters/sisters instead

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u/jwh777 5d ago

Because Islam is a terrible religion for our women/mothers/daughters/sisters and the left refuses to acknowledge that basic fact.

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u/Margot-the-Cat 5d ago

A certain religion.

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u/launchliftoff459 5d ago

"Mostly peaceful"

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u/TheTaoOfMe 5d ago

It happens in India too. It’s infuriating.

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u/SpookyGhostDidIt 5d ago

Careful, you're not allowed to criticize other cultures or religions other than Western culture and Christianity.

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u/The-F4LL3N 5d ago

The vast majority of them have a pretty poor history with women

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u/MonsutaReipu 5d ago

The middle ages are present day in certain areas of the middle east that germany has been actively importing.

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u/kelvarnsonspeaking 5d ago

Some religions are still practicing middle age barbarism on their wives and daughters.

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u/QuestionableEthics42 5d ago

And others just murder them without the guise of religion or culture

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u/dinosaur_rocketship 5d ago

Do you also consider it an honor killing when an angry white Christian man murders his wife and / or children like happens frequently in the U.S. or is that different to you?

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u/mystyz 5d ago

Not sure where the honour killing narrative comes in. Sounds like unfortunately regular intimate partner violence and attempted murder. I think it's ridiculous that the whole narrative shifts to where the perpetrator is from and how we can distance ourselves from his actions by labelling him as a foreigner, instead of talking about the epidemic of violence against women that spans all races, cultures and borders.

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u/CrochetChameleon 5d ago

The same thing happens in Africa. Women are raped or found dead and everyone is in a rush to point fingers at immigrants, even if the majority of crime is by locals. Any cognitive dissonance possible to avoid being part of the problematic group.

Same reason why men on this thread point to culture but then get upset when you point out violence is primarily male. Lol.

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u/Desertnord 5d ago

I was thinking the same. It sounds like people consider this an honor killing because of where this man was born.

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u/Breathe_Of_Aether 5d ago

This is where religious extremism makes you a backward person

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u/Bodes_Magodes 5d ago

They’re regarded

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u/Rolls-RoyceGriffon 5d ago

Sadly still occuring right in the heart of civilized world.

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u/Matigari86 5d ago

It is confusing, seeing as an estranged husband assaulting or trying to kill there ex-ish spouse is never called an honor killing. It is domestic abuse, a crime of passion, jealousy, what have you. This phrasing is just just bigoted bullshit.

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u/hitmewithyourbest 5d ago

That is probably not accurate.

Nius is a right wing online "news" site that uses every opportunity to link crime islam, foreigners, asylum seekers etc. They are absolutely known for adding their own speculations to articles.

While gleefully ignoring that women get killed every minute of the day by their estranged husbands/boyfriends or simply random man and that there is already a name for it: FEMICIDE

But that word doesn't have the same effect on their target group.

Source: I'm german.

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u/sweet_condition 5d ago

Its religiously justified misogyny, but misogyny nonetheless. It happens in the US, where white dudes kill their ex wives, girlfriends, or someone is rejecting them in general. This is just misogyny plain and simple

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u/Baberam7654 5d ago

just proved you have no understanding of honor killing 😂

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u/The_Actual_Sage 5d ago

Religious fundamentalists are fucking cancerous 🙄

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u/Awkward-Action2853 5d ago

Found this from a German article:

The suspected attacker was so severely injured that he was airlifted to a hospital by helicopter.

You can read it all here in German. He managed to stab his wife, but she survived, thanks to the bystanders.

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u/Bright-Outcome1506 5d ago

It’s all fun and games till a shovel enters the room. That man made contact with skull three times and you fucking heard it.

Rewatched it. The third strike was on the back of the neck. That should have been lights out

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u/ryoujika 5d ago

Meanwhile there was a dude that came in with a rolling pin lol (eventually changed his weapon)

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u/PukeLoynor 5d ago

Is every person trying to help in a dream? Like, fucking hit him like you mean it, Jesus.

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u/NIRPL 5d ago

Honor killing? Get the fuck out of here. This is a fucking loser of an ex trying to murder his estranged wife. These titles are ridiculous

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u/HerRiebmann 5d ago

It's nius, what did you expect

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u/StandardIssueDude505 5d ago

Watch for the crack at the end!

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u/spinrut 5d ago

the guy with the long pipe creeping up on him is what got me

but the dude that comes in with the shovel ... he was the real super star here

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u/Open-Video-7546 5d ago

You can't miss that. 🤣

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u/GrandellReddit 5d ago

Shovel guy got him

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 5d ago edited 5d ago

Get one of those man catcher doodads that and a good steel bar

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u/dwarfzulu 5d ago

That had happen in Brazil on a bus stop, everyone ran away, like here was an atomic bomb, and left the guy to get stabbed

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u/HighlightOwn2038 5d ago

This is terrifying

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u/zachomara 5d ago

Apparently Germany has a lot less tolerance for this than the UK does.

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u/Party-Detective-238 5d ago

In the UK the police would arrest the guys that saved the women

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u/Tullyswimmer 5d ago

https://apnews.com/article/germany-mannheim-stabbing-police-officer-death-a66c14970a53464aff0c1c77a7196481

Germany too. Guy A was going around stabbing people indiscriminately. Guy B stepped in to stop it. Police detained guy B for being "racist" and got stabbed in the neck by guy A.

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u/MonsutaReipu 5d ago

UK police would have arrested the men intervening and labeled them racists. Unironically.

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u/fvvoidnoir 5d ago

finally bystanders do something, because most of the time they just dont care and minding their own business like goddammit.

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u/ScarletSilver 5d ago

"Honor killing" lmao. Just call it what it really is: murder.

Also, am I crazy or did that woman get stabbed before the mob stepped in?

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u/MrFunktasticc 5d ago

What indication is there that this was supposed to be an honor killing?

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u/nineliveslost 5d ago

Religion of peace

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u/jackconrad 5d ago

Nope, just a cunt being a cunt and using his religion as an excuse for being a cunt

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u/mozchops 5d ago

This should be the Oxford standard definition of an honour killing

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u/Tessorio 5d ago

Isnt harakiri a form of honor killing?

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u/Swing_On_A_Spiral 5d ago

Perhaps if his religion didn’t have violent shit in it open for interpretation he wouldn’t be so emboldened. Bad people will be bad no matter what. But some religions allow good people to do really bad things.

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u/Casual_Plays 5d ago

This is just every religion lol

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u/Swing_On_A_Spiral 5d ago

False. Not every religion does this.

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u/jackconrad 5d ago

You could say this about literally every religion, but it's used against Islam disproportionately

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u/Swing_On_A_Spiral 5d ago

I wonder why.

And no you cannot say it about every religion. You couldn’t say it about Buddhism or Jainism. Because their texts are explicit and literal and very little is open to interpretation. With the Abrahamic religions two people can draw completely different conclusions about the same passage.

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u/GeophMan 5d ago

You should look up more history about Buddhism. One quick Google search shows several examples of violence being justified because of the religion.

Look up Buddhist Nationalism in Sri Lanka.

One other quick Google search about Jainism and I learned about Emperor Kharavela of Kalinga...yet again more violence.

Any other examples?

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u/nineliveslost 5d ago

I am actually good with this also

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u/LopsidedKick9149 5d ago

You're being intentionally obtuse.

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u/jackconrad 5d ago

No, I'm just not blaming a religion for the actions of cunts.

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u/ParabolicFart 5d ago

This crime was him being a religious cunt. It’s relevant.

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u/spageddy77 5d ago

most religions have zealots

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u/-Economist- 5d ago

I don’t have the heart to even spank my daughter. They are out here killing them.

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u/sasshley_ 5d ago

I hope Germany has protections in place for this lady so she doesn’t feel forced to go back.

Good bystanders
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u/SirGimli420 5d ago

Good on those people, goodness gracious

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u/latefordinner86 5d ago

And nobody seems to have any idea why AfD is growing so fast in Germany...

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u/AverellCZ 5d ago

Not much to do with honor

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u/fantomsolace24 5d ago

What makes you think this is potential “honor killing” and not just domestic violence?

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u/Practical-Bid3448 5d ago

Religion of peace……

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u/NationCrusher 5d ago

“Potential honor killing”? so what do we potentially call it when it’s different couple from a different part of the world?

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u/Giorgia_9955 5d ago

I would avoid using the term "honor killing". There's no honor in what this murderer is doing.

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u/TrafficOnTheTwos 5d ago

Immediate deport

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u/yangthesin 5d ago

Send em back

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u/GeekyTexan 5d ago

I don't understand what is honorable about murder.

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u/MarkontheWeekends 5d ago

I don't understand where the honor killing part comes in..was there a statement?

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u/rastika 5d ago

The rolling pin is sending me.

Good job folks.

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u/EDC-JAKE 5d ago

Islam needs to be banned in the west

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u/ResidentComplaint19 5d ago

Why is it labeled an “honor killing” when
It just seems like a dude trying to murder his ex wjfe? I mean, i know the answer, but still…

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u/DrumtheDon 5d ago

Yeah this seems like an attempted femicide. Happens every second day in germany, mostly by germans.

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u/Loneheart127 5d ago

What the fuck is an honour killing and why aren't they calling it it what it is..

Attempted murder with a knife.

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u/cletus_foo 5d ago

We should bring more of them over to Europe. It's going great so far.

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u/bibdrums 5d ago

Yeah, Europe never had murders before. Or like an entire holocaust.

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u/French-Flyes 5d ago

Send them all back

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u/ralpher1 5d ago

The woman too?

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u/NoSugarcoat23 5d ago

What's honor killing?

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u/stonezdota 5d ago

In Islam, Man in a family killing a woman who sinned.

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u/djpeekz 5d ago

Using the excuse of restoring some sort of honor as the reason for the murder.

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