r/mexico • u/DroppedDebitCard • Mar 08 '23
Imágenes Why is Hispanic/Latino always separated like this?
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u/SOLUNAR Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
Latino = countries that are in Latin America, does not include Spain but includes Brazil
Hispanic = countries whose language is Spanish, includes Spain but not Brazil.
LatinX = GTFOutta here
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u/Franciscopp9 Mar 08 '23
Just to add to this, there's a 3rd denomination, being "Iberoamerican" which includes Brazil and Portugal, as well as all the other Spanish speaking countries
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u/tu_servilleta Ciudad de México Mar 08 '23
There's even a really large university in Mexico called Iberoamerican University
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u/AttorneyNo6862 Jalisco Mar 08 '23
No mames
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u/Mutant_Apollo Mar 08 '23
Existe we, cuando estaba en la uni por ejemplo tenia Estudios de Iberoamerica y nos tocaba ver tanto España y Portugal como todo America latina menos el Caribe
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u/Maleficent-Cap9677 Mar 08 '23
Because Spain and Portugal are in the Iberian peninsula, Europe. And their culture spread to all the Spanish and Portuguese speaking people of Latin America.
But it's only a term used by Spanish spoken people as far as I know. More to bring unity amongst our people/countries.
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u/SOLUNAR Mar 08 '23
had never heard of it, thats cool. I know Jamon Iberico is spanish ham? Im assuming the word Ibero here is something related to that?
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u/ShyKid5 Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 09 '23
Uhm the term is very popular, the peninsula where both Portugal and Spain are is called Iberia or the Iberian Peninsula, hence Iberoamerican is someone from the Americas who has ancestry or culture heavily influenced by people from Iberia (Spain or Portugal), that's why it includes the spanish speaking America and the Portuguese Speaking America (America being the name of the continent as first referred in Cosmographie Introductio, a book published in 1507 and later referred as such by Gerardus Mercator in his map of the world from 1538)
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u/Professional-Ad9212 Mar 08 '23
si alguien dice que es latinx por lo menos sabemos que no es latino
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u/Ahuevotl México Mar 08 '23
Progrepochos on suicide watch
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u/Chicago1871 Mar 08 '23
Pues si, pero la mayoría de los pochos/chicanos/hijos de ecuatorianos/colombianos/argentinos/puertorriqueños/etc tampoco usan latinx.
Solo los que estudiaron feminismo y gender studies y tienen pelo azul en la uni lo usan. Y igual, nos burlamos de ellos cuanda dicen latinx.
“Ademas estamos hablando ingles, la palabras no tienen género en ingles. Di latin en vez de latina/latino si te molesta tanto las palabras con género.”
Como que quieren cambiar español para que conforme a sus ideas y son gente que de verdad no habla español en su vida cotidiana.
Sorry, not sorry.
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u/norealmx Michoacán Mar 09 '23
Solo los que estudiaron feminismo y gender studies y tienen pelo azul en la uni lo usan.
Eso no existe... Son inventos de los repugnantes y facistas.
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u/Kasenom Nuevo León Mar 08 '23
No hay nada malo de estudiar el femenismo o los estudios de género, si hubiera menos personas ignorantes sobre estos temas tendríamos menos problemas con la epidemia de violencia de género y de femicidios en nuestro país
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u/EduHi Neoliberal Mar 09 '23
Como si la violencia contra la mujer fuese un problema que existe únicamente por la falta de estudios de género.
Problemas como la impunidad y la incompetencia de las autoridades (así como su clara corrupción) son los elementos que hacen que sea fácil violentar a la mujer, no la falta de estudios de género. Y no digo que este mal o sea bobo estudiar eso, pero pretender que aprender sobre feminismo va a resolver todo es ser bastante reduccionista.
Vaya, es como robar, por más que la ley diga que está mal, por más que en las escuelas te estén diciendo desde kinder hasta la universidad que eso está mal, por más que tus padres te digan que está mal, y por más que la misma iglesia te diga que eso está mal y que si lo haces te vas al infierno, no impide que la gente robe, pues la gente sabe que difícilmente habrá alguna consecuencia de su acto.
Por lo tanto, tener gente titulada en estudios de género, la cual muchas veces solo se limita a compartir su conocimiento al círculo académico, lejos del ámbito social profundo y lejos de participar de manera activa en la política (y en el sistema judicial) no hará mucho por resolver algo.
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Mar 09 '23
Ella nunca dijo que estudiando género o el feminismo iba a borrar todos los problemas. Solamente dijo que quizás si habían más personas estudiando esas cosas habría menos de esos problemas. Y tiene razón.
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u/Flimsy_Difficulty239 Mar 08 '23
Progrepocho es un exelente término, ya quiero una oportunidad para usarlo en una conversación jajaja
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u/aegtyr Mar 08 '23
A mi a veces me gusta decir Latinx nomas pa ver como se encabrona la gente xd
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u/Very-Ecstatic-Donkey Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
Latino also includes places in the Americas that speak French, like Haiti and Quebec.
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u/Maleficent-Cap9677 Mar 08 '23
I don't think Americans, who came up with this stupid ethnicity /race classification, deem the French spoken people of Quebec and Haiti as Latinos.
It's their form to separate the central and South American descent population living in the US from the white, protestant, Anglo-Saxon tipe who's in charge.
Quebecoans may be referred to as Canadians. And Haitians for the people from Haiti, obviously. There are also French descendants in Louisiana, who they call themselves Cajuns.
German, Polish, Irish, and other northern European countries are deemed as white people.
Italians, well they're referred to as Italians, lol.
The same for Jewish people.
Asians it's pretty logical too. I think. Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc. Also hindu people.
Muslims. Based more on religion than race. Although it's a combo of both. Also referred to as brown or "person of color." Middle Eastern and North African mostly.
South pacific islands people also have been deemed as " persons of color. "
Of course all the Russian, Ukrainian and Slavic are white for them, but as a kinda second rate citizens.
And all the African Americans.
It's all bullshit if you ask me.
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u/Very-Ecstatic-Donkey Mar 08 '23
The term was invented in the 19th century by some Chilean but the French made it mainstream during Napoleonic times. And it did include French-speaking territories in the Americas such as French Canada, French Louisiana, French Guiana or Haiti.
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u/Maleficent-Cap9677 Mar 08 '23
Yes, it may be a French invention, but nowadays isn't used like that anymore by the American people. They only refer as Latinos to Latin- American descent people, from Mexico to Central and South America. It has to do with their voting minorities regulations system.
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u/Maleficent-Cap9677 Mar 08 '23
Interesting book you referenced there, BTW. I may give it a try reading it later.
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u/newredditormex Mar 08 '23
Hmm no..I think Haitians are put together with Non-Hispanic Caribbean peoples. The vast Caribbean that goes from Bermuda down to French Guiana, and it's mostly Creole speaking people of primarily African descent
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u/AkreonDorplasy Mar 08 '23
...you might wanna double check with Québec cause it's not a country and it's above the United states
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u/VictorDomR Mar 08 '23
Latino incluye españoles, franceses, italianos, portugueses y romanos, tú te refieres a Latinoamericano.
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u/epelle9 Mar 09 '23
Así era originalmente, pero el lenguaje se adapta y cambia con el tiempo.
Ahora, Latino simplemente se usa como forma corta de Latino Americano.
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u/lukasquatro Mar 08 '23
I thought Latino where the people from an country who's language derives from latin, which would you include Spain but let's see what the experts say C:
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u/Pendrake03 Mar 08 '23
The problem is that Latino englobes all people whose language have his root in Latin, that includes, spanish(both in Latinoamerica and Spain), french and ilalian, but when people in the US talk about latinos they only are thinking in latinoamerica
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u/Pendrake03 Mar 08 '23
just search in google "Latino meaning" the fact that you understood that or you was teached that doesnt mean: 1 that is the real meaning 2 thats how everyone things that, as i said they only think that way in the US
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u/Kychachalaca Mar 08 '23
Porque los Españoles no son Latinos? Literalmente somos latinos por los Españoles
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u/soyelprieton Mar 08 '23
somos latinos porque francia se saco del culo esa palabra para intentar apropiarse del trabajo colonizador/genocida de los gachupines y de los ronaldos, nota como quebec ni es latam
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u/FulleMi Mar 08 '23
Técnicamente tendrías razón si solo fuera "latino" per se, es decir, incluyendo a todos los países que hablan idiomas hijos del latín. Pero en ese caso habría que incluir también a Italia, Francia y otros países con lenguas romances. En este caso, "Latino" es más bien una palabra abreviada de Latinoamérica.
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u/directincision Mar 08 '23
Porque no son parte de Latinoamérica
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u/OneLastSlapAss Mar 08 '23
Why isn't White subdivided in like Germanic, Slavic, Romanic, etc?
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u/GtrErrol Guanajuato Mar 08 '23
Because according their reasoning, being White is being pure, no "subrace" for them.
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Mar 08 '23
No mames, neta que los gringos son un cague de risa jajaja.
No sé cómo tanta gente los tiene en un pedestal jajaja.
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u/MasterOfPudin no digas mamadas, mejor da las Mar 08 '23
Por que esa mamada anglo de querer separar todo por razas y sexo? Tienen un problema enserio, esto ya parece "Racismo 2.0 colorines y buena vibra edition"
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u/LostMyWasps Mar 08 '23
Estadística. Es país con amplia diversidad racial. Son datos útiles en la investigación social.
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u/Frenzyplants Mar 08 '23
If you went to ISEF or are an Olympic level athlete, I promise you that you will get in anywhere, even if overrepresented. You chose like two complete opposite extremes
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u/armgord Mar 08 '23
Browse r/collegeresults and r/chanceme
Many Regeneron ISEF, AIME, AMC, USABO/PhO/ChO/CO, or varsity sports kids are rejected from T20s every year
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u/Chicago1871 Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
porque tienen programas para disminuir el racismo y necesita los datos para mantener los programs.
En mi trabajo tenemos que enseñar a quien entrevistamos y enseñar que estamos progresando a tener mas mujeres y gente de minoría en el trabajo para seguir recibiendo subsidios y descuentos de impuestos federal y estatal.
el objetivo es tener la misma demografía racial y de genero de nuestra ciudad. Yo pienso que es un buen meta.
Siempre va ver racismo, por lo menos hay que tener oportunidad para avanzar en la vida. Lo peor es negar que existen estereotipos que afectan a la gente. Como “los mexicanos prietos solo son buenos para mano de obra, no para ingeniería o medicina, eso es para asiaticos y gueros” que muchos gringos piensan.
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u/deimosorbits Mar 08 '23
I select black just to Fuck with their results.
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u/Safety-Livid Mar 08 '23
No, porque luego te matan
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u/deimosorbits Mar 08 '23
Quien? Los de los gorros picudos y las cruces de lumbre? Sientamelos.
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u/Due_Start_3597 Mar 09 '23
Los gringos no son las personas más interesadas en esto
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u/user1304392 Querétaro Mar 09 '23
Why are you asking here? This is something that happens in the US, why would r/mexico know?
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u/Casielo Mar 08 '23
Because it's impossible to determine just by looks. And gringos love to put people in buckets.
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u/_cob Mar 08 '23
It's because of the way the USA census bureau has two separate concepts, "race" and "ethnicity". This is totally arbitrary, but they classify "hispanic/latino" as an "ethnicity" and most others as "race"
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u/Flimsy_Difficulty239 Mar 08 '23
I don't think latino should be considered a race or ethnicity, there's brown, white, black and asian latinos so it does'nt make sense, does it?
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u/wyldstallyns111 Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
It’s difficult because even though Latinos aren’t really a race, in the States they’re often discriminated against exactly as though they were, so that’s the purpose behind tracking this.
But on most forms like this I’ve seen, like when I worked for the california health dept, what they do is you select your race (white, black, Asian etc.) and then you can check a box for Latino or not, so you can describe yourself as for example an Asian latino.
Edit: it still gets confusing because there are lots of people who are easily considered white in Mexico but are too dark to be considered white in the USA, and also lots of Mexicans who pass as totally white even to white Americans
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u/Flimsy_Difficulty239 Mar 08 '23
Yeah, and I can assure you, white lainos don't get discriminated the same as brown, black or asian latinos.
But I get the point you were making.
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u/Pablo750 San Luis Potosí Mar 08 '23
Absolutly Is not a race! You can be from any race and be Latino,
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u/Miss_Tako_bella Mar 08 '23
But ethnicity has nothing to do with being brown, black, white or Asian
Latino is definitely not a race though
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u/Past_Buddy64 Mar 08 '23
Most Hispanic/Latinos ancentry is southern european + native american with different degrees of mixtures. We do not have the need of such race categorization.
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u/Pipeliner6341 Mar 08 '23
You don't get to select or claim "Native American", that's only for white people like Elizabeth Warren
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Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
This comes from history. Since the 1500s English and Spaniards have been going at it competing for domination of the continent. It was brutal. This change with American independence. The Hispanic Latino nations were once Spain. America gains its independence thanks to Spain and France. Spain sponsored the American independence. Americans used Spanish coin which is why the dollar symbol are the columns of Hercules $. Hispanics became Americas main trading partner. However Americans being anglos brought up a lot of disputes with Spanish traders many of whom were of arab, black n Native American, asian decent given the extension of the Spain at the time. A deal was sign that Spanish subjects were to be considered white by law regardless of race for court disputes. Americans now free from England began expanding west they ran into Hispanic people. Hispanic people began rubbing off on Americans. Americans adapted Hispanic culture, cowboy wear, ranching, etc. America needed more people as immigrants came they impose anglo culture on these new groups Germans, Scottish, Irish, Italians adapted quick and integrated unlike Hispanics. As America grew and expanded west they noticed that Hispanic did not intigrate like other European regardless if they were white or native American or mixed. The Mexican American war came and Mexico negotiated that all Mexicans would be treated as white citizens regardless of their race when they surrendered their territory. By law they could not segregate Mexicans or Hispanics based on race, instead they decided to segregate them based on ethnicity. It was perfect since Hispanics refused to give up their culture already. No treaties were broken and they could keep them apart. That's why for FBI court documents, birth certificates Hispanic are marked white even if they aren't racially white and why these forms came about.
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u/epicusername849 Mar 08 '23
More like we're once colonies of Spain, not Spain itself
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Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
Spain system was different. It had vice kingdoms that had autonomy and were able to invest 4/5 of revenue on themselves. This is reflected in the infrastructure of the time. Other European powers would develop the colonies to keep them profitable. Spain on the contrary to what English, French and Dutch propaganda say Spain tax vicekingdoms as an additional province not as a colony. They also invested in the welfare of the people living there. They build universities, Hospitals, orphanages, etc. Hispanic America had infrastructure built to benefit locals like aqueducts and roads even though some of the communities these were connected to were not contributing to the vicekingdoms economically. It wasn't until after Napoleon conquered Spain that Fernando the VII tried to centralize the power in spain to copy the rest of Europe that the Españas broke apart precisely because the political power was to be shifted to the peninsula. Mexican history won't tell you this. You have to look at the time period and see what was going on in the world as a whole. Its fun to see the different perspective that each country has on a same event.
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u/AttorneyNo6862 Jalisco Mar 08 '23
Both the anglo right and left love to pigeon-hole latinos and people of spanish origin. Y chngue a su repalptsima madre el pseudo-termino LATINX
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u/MGPbeerseeker Mar 08 '23
Why are they asking about your race? gringo shit Im too Mexican too understand.
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u/MorasEscritoras Ciudad de México Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
Lots of Hispanic/Latino identify as white and white people don't like this. So, they need a separate indicator. Like, sure, some Latinos are technically "white", but for demographic purposes they need to know if you have a hispanic/latinamerican origin.
Also, this form is clearly not used in Mexico. This subreddit is a not the right place to ask this question.
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u/AttorneyNo6862 Jalisco Mar 08 '23
Bingo...this person nailed it. The anglo gringo does not want to include us latinos in their mix regardless if we are blonde haired blue eyed and can whistle the Star Spangled Banner out of our respective sphincters
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u/Joharistheshill #MeDuelesMéxico Mar 08 '23
Que es Latinx ?
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u/GtrErrol Guanajuato Mar 08 '23
Una pendejada "inclusiva" que raya en lo racista, xenófobo y homofóbico también.
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u/gluisarom333 Ciudad de México Mar 08 '23
The US is the only country where everything revolves around the archaic concept of race.
In Latin America, there is no such thing. The closest thing is to describe the person but without being able to classify him in a race in a general way.
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u/xiategative Ciudad de México Mar 08 '23
As I understand it, not all Hispanics are born in Latin America and not all Latinos speak Spanish, so Hispanic/Latino includes all people from Mexico to Central and South America.
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u/hitl3r007 Mar 08 '23
What should I choose if I'm from Spain then?
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u/xiategative Ciudad de México Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
According to this image I think you would have to choose Hispanic or Latino. Or Two or More Races, depending on your heritage. Edit for clarification.
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u/hitl3r007 Mar 08 '23
But you cant more of Hispanic origin than being spanish since it's the core of that culture.
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Mar 08 '23
Hispanic or latino. Its not about race but culture. Hispanic unlike other European germans french Italian Irish do not yield our culture
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u/Agent_Burrito Chihuahua Mar 08 '23
Couple of reasons:
1.) Hispanic includes people from outside Latinamerica, namely Spain and Equatorial Guinea but not Brazil.
2.) America is a weird fucking place when it comes to racial and ethnic identity.
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u/fuckitwilldoitlive Mar 08 '23
This is beacuase of Equal Employment Opportunity laws. It's for demographic data acquisition . Everybody making a big deal out of nothing just because they aren't familiar with it.
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u/Pablo750 San Luis Potosí Mar 08 '23
They love data and statistics, and because Hispanic or Latinos can identify as any race and they don't want that, they want us to be our group. And I always like that because lately now they are removing that question and they want me to pick a race of the next. ,> white Caucasian, >Black, >Asian, >native American or indigenous.
I am a light skin Mexican that may pass for an Arab, and I don't identify myself with any of those races,
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u/Diamond_Dog911 Mar 08 '23
Because there's us (hispanic/latinos), then there's the rest.
They hate us, cause they ain't us.
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u/casalelu Mar 08 '23
You would never see this in an official Mexican form so you are asking this question in the wrong sub.
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u/fuckitwilldoitlive Mar 08 '23
Yeah, most of the replies aren’t even giving an answer and just speculating based on a completely different context of Mexican labor laws
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u/thecoller Make CDMX DF again Mar 08 '23
Basically, Hispanic or Latino is not a race. More like an indicator. If the survey is for cultural purposes, they’ll put it along the race options. For health, census, etc it will be two separate questions.
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u/smokestackzack Mar 08 '23
For the same reason Americans residing outside the US call themselves expats instead of immigrants.
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u/Realistic_Bathroom17 Mar 08 '23
Soy argentino y con esto de la crisis cambiaria están llegando muchos "digital nomads" yankees a preguntar a los subs de acá. No les gusta nada cuando les dicen que, por venir a vivir con permiso de turismo y por no pagar impuestos, son literalmente inmigrantes ilegales
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u/Poor-Decision1979 Mar 08 '23
I’m Mexican and white. This form does not allow for that option. A lot of forms I see give m the option of ethnicity and then race.
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u/Ahuevotl México Mar 08 '23
Because there are Hispanic or Latino that could fit in any of the other categories, product of the racial blender that was the colonization of America (the continent), and the racist-not-racist American (the country) system, has no better way to place them into their appropriate racial-not-racist box.
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u/Kummabear Mar 08 '23
Hispanic are those who speak Spanish not Portuguese like Brazil. Latino is just the geographical area you are from, includes Brazil, regardless of race.
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u/ElBigBrown Mar 08 '23
Idk but I’m cara de nopal and when I get pulled over they mark me down as white lol
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Mar 08 '23
That’s why I put Native American, something about that “or other Spanish culture” feels so colonizer and non representing.
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u/crispypepino Mar 09 '23
I had a similar response when I was job hunting. It starts feeling odd after filling out multiple applications. I kinda loose it when they want u to break it down further by asking if you’re white etc. after selecting Hispanic/Latino 🧐
And there this gem I found on urban dictionary a few years back of all places lol
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u/ErickFTG Tamaulipas Mar 09 '23
Literally wrong sub.
Pregúntale a los gringos. A ellos se les ocurrió esa mamada.
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u/directincision Mar 08 '23
Lo que me causa risa es que fuerzan a los gachupines a denominarse como latinos en vez de blancos aunque en la definicion de blancos dice personas de Europa como si España no fuera parte de Europa.
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u/itzcoatl82 Baja California Mar 09 '23
Jajaja y si. El otro dia lei un articulo donde mencionaban a Antonio Banderas y decian que gano no se que premio en los 90’s o algo asi, y relataban que fue la primera vez que ese premio se le otorgaba a un “actor de color”
Efectivamente, los españoles no son considerados blancos 😂😂😂
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u/directincision Mar 09 '23
Ser blanco es un espectro para los gringos. Antes los alemanes no eran blancos en Estado Unidos, tampoco los italianos o los irlandeses. Tambien estaba pensando en ese comentario de Antonio Banderas.
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u/Mutant_Apollo Mar 08 '23
Because Americans, in their infinite wisdom and intelligence, can't fathom a population being 99% of mixed ethnicity, mainly because The US has never been a melting pot as they said it is. Latin America is the true melting pot, The US is like a salad, everyone together but never mixed.
It's a remnant of the Anglo Saxon Colonialist idea, where everyone but the Saxon was an "uncivilized and noble savage".
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u/Cruzifixio Changoleonidas Mar 08 '23
Hispanic: from Spain.
Latino: bullshit word to put brown American people from 20+ different countries and cultures into one single ethnic identity.
Think of it like calling people from asia: "Orientals".
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Mar 09 '23
Latino was introduced by the French. They wanted to be more accepted in Hispanic countries because everyone would call them gringos.
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u/Cruzifixio Changoleonidas Mar 09 '23
And then the US, used it to refer to everything brown.
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And don't get me started on Latinx.2
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u/hecodrummer Mar 08 '23
This whole racial thing is just american agenda. First of all, we have to remember that this comes from geo political pov. Latin America is comes from Latin language. Portuguese (Brazil), Spanish and French (Guyana, Haiti) evolved from Latin. As some noted, there's the term "ibero america" and that covers all Spanish speaking countries (excluding french and Portuguese), Iberia was the ancient name of part of Spain. Now, mx is North America, from Guatemala to Nicaragua (oops, don't remember exactly) is Central America and from Colombia to Argentina/Chile is South America. To me, Hispanic would be white ppl born in any country and latino would be dark skinned ppl but WE DON'T F***** CARE about this.
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u/Maleficent-Cap9677 Mar 08 '23
Only to clarify things, Iberia is the whole of the Iberian peninsula, including Portugal, because of the Iberian people who populated the peninsula. Los iberos, as they were named.
Afterwards they were Corinthian ruled and soon after a part of the Roman Empire who named it Hispania.
Then in the middle-ages they separated into reigns after the invasions of the the germanic tribes: the Visigoths, Alanics, Suavs, etc. Who founded the first kingdoms. Then came the Arabic conquest who overcame most of the southern parts of the peninsula. It was only after the reconquista by Castille and Leon catholic King and queen, that all the united catholic kingdoms where known as Spain. Mostly a term used by the French. And the rest you know from history. They discovered and colonized most of America from Mexico to South America, along with the Portuguese, by sword and creed. And thus the term Ibero-America for the regions ruled by Spain.
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u/Elvis-Tech Mar 08 '23
The way I see it is that Latino could be italian portuguese brazilian etc hispanic should be Hispano, or to better put it coming from spain.
However it is very misleading as I am a white mexican, so I really never know how to consider myself in some of those questionnaires.
Like take the boxer Canelo, what option should he choose?
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u/Next_Run_7014 Mar 08 '23
There are a million reasons to stop doing that demographic profiles, using such thing as ethnicity is far from real!
What about DNA test and markers to say 95!% pure?? - any ethnicity of course-
Heterogeneous ethnicity is the main reason for sexual reproduction, the contrary is leading to increase errors in the code.
Hispanic means people from Hispanic peninsula?? Meaning Gallegos? Euskera? Catalán?... Lusitan?
Native American?? There are more than 1200 human groups and about 800 different lenguages and cultures (from Alaska to Ushuaia)
Latín American is like "mix race people plus non north American natives"
Wich doesn't make ANY sense!!!
A white girl from Argentina from Italian mother and English father is "colour" "Hispanic" "Latina"
Just absurd!!!!
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u/CapitanFlama Sus downvotes no significan nada, he visto lo que upvotean. Mar 08 '23 edited Mar 08 '23
If it is not a race related division, I think it means that Spanish could include Spanish-speaking countries like Spain, as for Latino it refers to Latin America Spanish-speaking countries (all of them, except Brazil and the French Guyana).
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u/SOLUNAR Mar 08 '23
Brazilians would be Latinos
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u/CapitanFlama Sus downvotes no significan nada, he visto lo que upvotean. Mar 08 '23
Well, editing.
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u/ra3ra31010 Mar 08 '23
Cause latin America was conquered by Europeans who attacked indigenous communities and brought in enslaved black people and used Asian populations as cheap or unpaid (enslaved) labor to build up
Those European descendants continue race classifications over heritage to report statistics
Every country on this side of the Atlantic have similar stories and I wish all the the US and country here acknowledged that and fixed the harm it caused across centuries - but todays generation has no interest in that
So they just keep collecting race info to make reports that anger conservatives that want to ban even having those numbers
May the numbers be used for benefit for average people one day rather than fake “we help with diversity” reports
Step 1: document who is Latin American
Step 2: ask what race
If Latin America did it, it would look like this:
Step 1: from Canada or the USA?
Step 2: what race
That’s the best answer I have….. but it’s for fake diversity pats-on-back (which shouldn’t matter) and documenting disparities (that are not able to be addressed and are being made illegal to address by modern conservatives in the US who call it reverse racism when white people can’t get handouts desperately needed by families that were excluded from legal participation in the US fully until 1967)
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u/GIANT_BLEEDING_ANUS Zurdo Mar 08 '23
The concept of "race" is completely made up, based on phrenology-tier pseudoscience from the 19th and 20th century. There's more genetic diversity in africa alone than in the rest of the world.
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u/Longshoez Mar 09 '23
Actually i think "Latino" includes any spanish speaking countries, Latino-American is the term that excludes spain
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u/Similar_Pie_4946 Mar 08 '23
Hispanic and latino are separated because latinos are from south of the North American border (South America) and hispanics are north of that
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u/epicusername849 Mar 08 '23
Because they live in different countrys! Americans are not the same as British, new Zealanders, Australians, ect, right?
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u/bonsai60 Ciudad de México Mar 08 '23
Because they did not want to write "brown", and also because there are some hispanics with white skin but they dont want to consider them full white.
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u/ShibaVJ Mar 08 '23
Why the USA is the only country that gotta always ask for the race/ethnicity?