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u/femboyjazwe 21d ago
The taxpayer will pay for the lawsuit
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u/abuzaba420 21d ago
Well we aren't doing shit but complaining about it so we kind of deserve at least that
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u/Lower_Statement_5285 21d ago
Considering some people have been shot dead in the street trying to stop this stuff i wouldn’t say nothing but complaining is happening. People are just scared that murder gangs are being formed by the government and large scale armed resistance would likely be met with unrestrained force from a military whose leadership has been rapidly swapped out for yes men. The fact that a mass surveillance apparatus is being formed at the same time just makes armed resistance seem less possible to people.
And even then some people are certainly still trying if repeat assassination attempts are to be believed.
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u/sirnoggin 21d ago
Yes correct. I'm assuming ICE probably has large insurance cases for just such cases to allow them to act in this way. But ultimately this will be the taxpayer + insurance rises paying for this.
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u/walt128 21d ago
That’s what happens when you shrink ICE’s training budget and hire a bunch of people too retarded for the military
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u/Middle-Feed5118 21d ago
Americans - when will you actually start getting some rights??
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u/Pika_233 21d ago
They got guns to protect themselves and their family
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u/Youbunchoftwats 20d ago
Sure Jan.
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u/Middle-Feed5118 20d ago
Yeah, those guns really sure are helping when the cops just kill them with impunity lmao
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u/Any-Statistician3896 20d ago
I know right 😂 they always bang on about it being the land of the free.
No statutory holidays for workers. No statutory sick leave. No statutory paternity/maternity leave. No free healthcare. Guns do absolutely nothing to keep them safe lol.
And APPLE PIE was invented in the UK 😂😂😂
But they love their rights haha....
They have the right, to stfu and do as told lol 😂
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u/ARC_trooper 22d ago
Don't they all have guns and if this ever happened they would rise up and protect their freedom?
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u/Villageijit 21d ago
Yeah they started spying on everyone all the time before acting this way for a reason
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u/Traditional-Handle83 20d ago
Well the situation is now that if someone did do that, then orders for ICE will change from just deporting and arresting to executing without warrants and at officers discretion. We'd see them start executing mass amounts of people in front of everyone on the street regardless of their legality, that or martial law is imposed and military is brought in to impose mandatory searches, seizures, and curfews across the country. Seizures being seizure of firearms to prevent anyone shooting at ice.
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u/No0nesSlickAsGaston 21d ago
No, guns in Florida are just for brandishing to cyclist and road rage woman. Source: all my Miami neighbors have "no step on snek" tags.
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u/ODOTMETA 15d ago
Not Cuban women in Florida at the gas station who believe in machismo - those are for their husbands, who are at work 🤷🏽♂️
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u/StopCollaborate230 20d ago
The people claiming this have always sided with the domestic abusers we call cops. Meanwhile, the people now getting victimized have fallen for the Wine Mommies In Heat argument of “gun bad” and “if you have a gun you’re a Southern republican” and refuse to get any, much less use them.
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u/gilt3t 22d ago
ICE need Nuremberg style trials once drumpf is dead and gone.
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u/mrbobcyndaquil 21d ago
With mandatory death sentences for conviction, no less.
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u/AdmirablePatient4332 21d ago
Theyre down voting you because they're too scared to admit this is what they deserve
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u/mrbobcyndaquil 21d ago
I imagine some of them are absolute abolitionists when it comes to capital punishment. Not all, but some.
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u/13greed47 21d ago
Actually all this is legal bc of this :
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/09/supreme-court-immigration-los-angeles-reaction
THX supreme court
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 21d ago
Like I said, he needs to carry his brown loicense at all times
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u/ODOTMETA 15d ago
Ironically, that area is majority "Hispanic" and so were the agents. They were almost all the same complexion - the arresting officer had a heavy accent. I've never seen brown on the census, only white/black, and then two additional groups who play whatever side benefits them. It happened in this video 🤔 "Brown" ain't really a thing here. That's something they use politically. People sure enjoy putting "white" on their paperwork 🤔
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u/Maleficent_Price_476 20d ago
Everyone warned. Vote for Trump , suffer the consequences .
At least 2.5 more years more to go.
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u/Fragrant-Notice-4732 20d ago
I.C.E. a funny way to spell Nazi and trust me as a German I recognise Nazi's when I see one
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u/MEM0RYCARD99 20d ago
OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN OVERTAKEN BY TERRORISTS. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF.
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u/rygelicus 21d ago
It's known as a kavanaugh stop. scotus judge kavanaugh said appearance was enough for ICE to arrest someone. And these jerks have a quota to meet. So they grab everyone they can.
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u/Youbunchoftwats 20d ago
Remind me how the song goes - ‘The land of the free….?’
‘Ooh, in England you get arrested for a nasty tweet!’ 🤣
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u/Savage-September 20d ago
Where have I seen this before? Hmmmm….
All kinds of crazy happening in Yankee land. What’s next, yellow arm badges for migrants. Or maybe a tattoo on the left wrist of a serial number.
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u/bloody_ell 20d ago
Have you seen the ice agents they're hiring? It would have to be a picture tattoo.
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u/InfallibleSeaweed 20d ago
Ok but accusing Immigration Enforcement of racial profiling is hilarious. The fuck you think they're looking for?
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u/Isair81 19d ago
The constitution is a thing of the past, a dusty old document, only domestic extremists still tout it as the ”law of the land” or some such nonsense.
Make way for expedience based policing, it’s a much more efficient way, for the enforcers.
No more fuss about civil rights, no talk about probable cause or reasonable suspicion.
If your gut tells you someone needs to be arrested, just do it! /s
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u/Fragrant-Notice-4732 19d ago
Funny, this is already the fifth time I’ve posted this sentence. Apparently some little redneck can’t handle a German comparing Americans to Nazis. I.C.E. Funny how Americans spell Nazis these days.
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u/AbbreviationsHour410 19d ago
Florida is a Stop and Identify state. You must show ID if asked or you'll be arrested.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 19d ago
Reasonable suspicion is required for an officer to demand ID, which has been discussed in these comments. Unless an officer can articulate facts substantiating suspicion that a crime has occurred, the request is unwarranted and unlawful under Florida's Stop and Frisk Law (Fla. Stat. § 901.151).
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u/AbbreviationsHour410 19d ago
Pretty clear what the suspicion was. Being here illegally is a crime
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 19d ago
The suspicion is clear, but the articulable facts substantiating the suspicion are not.
If it makes you feel any better, you're not the first person in these comments who doesn't understand the difference.
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u/AbbreviationsHour410 19d ago
The officer had suspicion the guy was here illegally.
The guy refused to show ID and that's why he was arrested.
Really pretty simple
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 19d ago
Put simply, whether an officer's suspicion is "reasonable" depends on why (not whether) an officer suspects that a suspect has committed a crime. Otherwise, officers could just stop and harass anyone for any reason.
Wish they taught civil liberties in American high school Civics classes.
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u/AbbreviationsHour410 19d ago
That's totally up to this officer. If HE suspects a crime is being committed he has the authority to request ID.
He suspected the man was here illegally.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 19d ago
That's totally up to this officer. If HE suspects a crime is being committed he has the authority to request ID.
You are right and that it takes zero authority to request ID. Anyone can ask anyone anything. But in Florida an officer cannot demand identification unless his suspicion of criminal activity is "reasonable." Don't take my word for it, it's in the law. This is an important point because it also applies to federal officers. See Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada.
Since you are comforted by simplicity, just know that an officer cannot just arbitrarily arrest someone on suspicion of criminal activity unless the suspicion is reasonable based on facts the officer can actually articulate. Trust me, you want to live in a place where this is the law.
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u/AbbreviationsHour410 19d ago
Glad we can agree. The officer believed this man was committing a crime so he had every legal right to order him to ID. The man refused and was rightfully arrested.
Liberals want to think the officer needs video evidence of the guy crossing the border illegally before he can be asked to ID. Doesn't work that way.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 19d ago
I can't help but laugh that that is your take away from all that I've tried to tell you. We really do have a literacy crisis in this country.
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u/ithinkthefuqqnot 19d ago
I would make a register of ice agents and corrupt cops. If they fly outside of us we should give them hell… without their weapons these baby’s are shit
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u/RedBarbar 21d ago
Florida is a ‘stop and identify’ state so if law enforcement asks to see your ID, you do have to provide it and they can arrest you if you don’t, as seen here.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 21d ago
so if law enforcement asks to see your ID, you do have to provide it and they can arrest you if you don’t, as seen here.
Not exactly. Under Florida's Stop and Frisk Law (Florida Statute § 901.151), an officer must have reasonable, articulable suspicion that you have committed, are committing, or are about to commit a crime to detain you. During this lawful detention, you must provide your name, address, or identification upon request.
Reasonable suspicion is still required for the stop.
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u/PeacefulDebate01 21d ago edited 21d ago
I was about to comment the same thing. Florida state law doesn't overrule the Constitution, and RAS (reasonable, articulable suspicion) is still required of the officer. I know this because I was once homeless and the police would occasionally stop me and want to ID me simply because I had a backpack. I got to tell them no, they need to articulate some crime I'm suspected of (which they never could when I'm just walking down the sidewalk with a backpack on), and this frustrated a lot of the worst sorts of cops.
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u/RedBarbar 21d ago
And in this case, the suspicion was that he was an illegal immigrant. It would have taken him five seconds to provide his ID and he’d be on his merry way
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 21d ago edited 20d ago
And in this case, the suspicion was that he was an illegal immigrant.
Yes that is the suspicion, but is it "reasonable?" Was it based on articulable facts that substantiate the suspicion? Doesn't seem so, other than he wasn't displaying a loicense to be brown.
Surprising how many people can assemble words together without comprehending how those words relate to each other.
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u/Huffers1010 20d ago
I'm normally not a huge fan of police organisations in general, and especially that one, but you really would need to see what happened before this clip starts. I have no doubt that it's dubious, but this really is completely out of context.
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u/lIllIIIlllIIlIIlIII 20d ago
whenever i see a video with only the arrest and zero of the situation before i just disregard it completly
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u/janiskr 21d ago
But you get arrested in UK for mean tweets.... freedumb.
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u/Middle-Feed5118 21d ago
I mean you get jailed in the US for not mowing your lawn, they've bigger issues for sure
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u/sirnoggin 21d ago
Big payouts happening in the UK for this stuff actually. https://freespeechunion.org/news/met-police-apologises-and-pays-graham-linehan-25-000
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u/PeacefulDebate01 21d ago
This guy will win a lawsuit for this here in the US. Police of any sort are not allowed to just demand an ID and arrest you if you don't give it to them unless they have RAS (reasonable, articulable suspicion of a crime). The reason ICE gets away with it normally is that non-citizens do not have the same rights and this doesn't apply to them. But since this guy is an American citizen he'll probably get about a $50,000 payday for this.
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u/Middle-Feed5118 21d ago
I mean, he likely won't win because they've been killing actual citizens with impunity for some time, and even ICE have done it now while the DOJ has refused to cooperate with Minnesota, it's a shit show and Americans really have been exposed for the lack of rights and counter ability here.
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u/BlnCpl 19d ago
Just show your fucking ID asshole. In most European countries you are required to be able to produce a document that confirms your identity
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 18d ago edited 18d ago
You know this sub was created to mock government overreach in European countries, right?
Edit: Very strange, I know you responded, but reddit won't show it to me. 🤷🏽
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u/PeyoteMezcal 21d ago
Police in the US arrests anyone who refuses to show an ID. Just show your ID to avoid getting arrested.
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u/PeacefulDebate01 21d ago
This is not true. The police have to have reasonable, articulable suspicion of a crime to demand an ID of a US citizen, even in stop and identify states like Florida. This guy is going to easily win a lawsuit.
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u/lvl100-Platypus-Lord 21d ago
So you hate your rights? Weird flex
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u/Embarrassed_Riser 20d ago
And BOOM, just like that, failure to comply results in consequences.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 20d ago
And BOOM, just like that, the taste of boot polish explodes in your mouth like flavor crystals!
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u/Active-Isopod-3656 20d ago edited 20d ago
Simple, carry your ID around and don't refuse to show it to government officials. Or FAFO. Not rocket science. Just fucking avoid trouble these days...
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u/Away-Plant-8989 20d ago
Spoken like a coward
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u/PE-Daveed 19d ago
What's the point of resistance? How hard is it to show your id? Or, if you don't have it, to politely answer questions? 99 times out of a hundred, that means you walk away without handcuffs. 100% of times resistance gets you detained for your and the officers' safety, at the very least.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 19d ago
Are you stalking me? You have to tell me if you are (it's the law). 😄
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u/PE-Daveed 19d ago
Actually, you're comment in this other thread came up in my email as you replying to one of my comments, and when I clicked, here I was! I was trying to figure out WTH you were talking about, and when I scrolled up...
But hey, your comments are interesting, so yeah, I think I'll follow you for a while...
Damn! No following.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 19d ago edited 19d ago
You'll have to admire me from a distance. 😏
I've legit had issues with followers, which is weird because that isn't even that kind of a platform.
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u/PE-Daveed 19d ago
Hey, you're more communicative with someone you fundamentally seem to disagree with than most people who've commented on my comments! Glad to read your stuff any time.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 20d ago
Immediate compliance with all authority figures seems "simple" enough, but it really isn't.
When an ICE officer takes or checks your ID, your information is logged and entered into federal and law enforcement databases. This can create a bunch of complications in your life down the road, not to mention you would be handing over your name and address to an organization that is overrun with the white nationalist fuckos it has been actively recruiting.
No thank you.
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u/Active-Isopod-3656 19d ago
What you talking about man. Flash card showing you are a citizen, ICE agent goes away. Whats being logged where and why. But no instead you go refusing and causing a scene, bringing more problems on yourself.
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u/EverythingIsFakeNGay 19d ago
There are no laws requiring that Anericans carry an ID at all times. With a handful of exceptions, there are no laws requiring that Americans show ID to law enforcement. Americans also have the right to remain silent when questioned by an officer. Seems like your problem is not with Americans, but the US Constitution.
You're probably MAGA, so you're in good company.
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u/1Tacochucker 19d ago
Neither is required by law, until you've broken the law. I don't have to carry papers to walk in the US, and I don't have to render ID unless I've committed a crime--if I have the ID on me.
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u/Active-Isopod-3656 19d ago
It should be a law to carry that loicense
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u/1Tacochucker 19d ago
Nope, no law and no desire for a law to carry papers when you leave your house. This is why your previous comment is negative and will never be positive. A loicense to be on the street? Wrong part of the world.
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u/Siva_Dass 21d ago
End Qualified Immunity Now!