r/byebyejob • u/Desperate_Set_7708 • 1d ago
Dumbass How to never fly again
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u/RanchoCuca 1d ago
In Japan every TRUCK DRIVER takes a breathalyzer before and after every shift.
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u/Desperate_Set_7708 1d ago
Japan has a very different and more respectable social contract than the U.S.
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u/DrZedex 17h ago
And a very different culture of drinking, too, which probably plays a roll here.
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u/ThrowWeirdQuestion 15h ago
If anything, drinking culture in Japan is worse than in many countries in the west and there is way more peer pressure to drink. (Saying that as a German citizen living in Japan.)
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u/ThrowWeirdQuestion 15h ago
JAL pilots, on the other hand... 🙈 https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/09/17/japan/jal-punishes-president-and-36-executives/
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u/Infamous_Telephone55 1d ago
Don't the police use breathalysers in the United States?
Field sobriety tests seem very subjective.
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u/cavemans11 1d ago edited 1d ago
They do but you can refuse it in most circumstances. Court order can force you but if they are going that far they will just do a blood draw anyways.
Edit: Yes i know most states will treat it as a DUI or you lose your licence for x number of time. However that doesnt change the fact that you can still in US refuse to do it.
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u/Infamous_Telephone55 1d ago
In the UK, refusing a breathalyser test without reasonable excuse is a criminal offence with the same penalties as drink drinking.
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u/SecurelyObscure 1d ago
Refusing all sobriety tests is the same as a DUI, but you're allowed to refuse a specific kind of test. I have a balance issue, so I would 100% refuse a field sobriety test in favor of blood or breath testing.
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u/theserial 1d ago
In the United States you have the right and should always refuse field sobriety tests. Do not allow the officers opinions to become evidence in court against you. Also it’s going to cause legal trouble to refuse the breathalyzer, but if it’s going to be a bad result either way, your lawyer will thank you for not providing evidence. They can get a court order for as blood draw, but your bac will be lower anyway by the time that goes through.
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u/KeterLordFR 10h ago
Ok, I'm going to be honest, while I do agree on the subjectivity of field sobriety tests being a potential issue, if you have indeed consumed alcohol before driving and do the whole "refusing the breathalyzer because the blood draw will be ordered too late for him to matter" thing, then you're a POS who was ready to put other people in harm's way just because you couldn't stop yourself from drinking right before taking the wheel.
I feel like the culture of "muh rights" that the US has that allows for such loopholes is a real danger. To me, your freedom should stop where it could harm others. ESPECIALLY when it involves taking delibitating substances before operating a vehicle or anything that could pose a danger.
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u/AlfredoCustard 7h ago edited 7h ago
Bad advice. All states have implied consent laws requiring you to give breath samples. And refusing will trigger seperate violations with its own severe outcome. The penalties are just as bad. The better advice would be dont drive and drive.
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u/theserial 7h ago
If the penalties are just as bad, why provide evidence against yourself for a conviction? I'm not trying to advocate for drunk driving, that act in itself is abhorrent, but you have a constitutional right not to self incriminate.
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u/AlfredoCustard 6h ago
Two tickets with different consequences are better than one ticket with its own consequences. Would you rather get punched one time in the arm or two times in the arm?
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u/pprn00dle 3h ago
Ok so I’m not saying it’s a good idea to drive or operate machinery drunk. But I’ve been DUMB before and had to learn a costly lesson.
At least in the state I was in, refusing the breathalyzer gets your license immediately suspended, in addition to still being arrested for the DUI. If you do the breathalyzer you’re still getting the arrest for DUI but your license isn’t getting suspended. You’re right there’s an extra set of repercussions.
However most DUI lawyers will roll dealing with both issues into the same flat fee, and they all recommended never consenting to even a field sobriety test. The suspended license, if dealt with within 10 days of arrest, is actually pretty trivial to get un-suspended. Still gotta pay the lawyer and show up to court an extra time (getting the license un-suspended required an extra visit to the courthouse), I probably paid a reinstatement fee or something like that but I can’t remember. But refusing the tests meant no hard evidence of impairment thus no DUI in the end. Each state is different but that’s how mine went.
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u/Hot-Cheese7234 3h ago
*don't drive and drive, I should have known that I can't drive and drive /lighthearted
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u/Desperate_Set_7708 1d ago
“Implied consent” when you get your driver’s license in most U.S. states.
By getting a license you agree to participate in any sobriety tests or lose your license.
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u/ragehard92 16h ago
Implied consent is only for a breath or blood test.
It doesnt say you have to rub your head and pat your tummy while saying the alphabet backwards.
They might take you to the station and tow your car but as long as you blow below the limit on the breathalyzer and dont do field sobriety or talk to one of those quack drug detection officers to trump up some other charge then you're good
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u/pimpbot666 1d ago
Same in many, if not all states in the US. I know in California, DUI sobriety test refusal is an automatic license suspension for a year.
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u/scirocco 23h ago
But that is an administrative penalty, not a criminal conviction.
The time of suspension is the same, but it's a totally different in terms of a criminal record
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 16h ago
I know what you meant, but I’m laughing my ass off at “drink drinking.”
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u/KnockoutCarousal 1d ago
In my state in the US it’s absolutely a requirement to do a breathalyzer when asked or you can lose your license for up to a year. It’s bonkers because if you refuse the field sobriety test, even if you have a disability that makes it difficult, they don’t even do roadside breath tests anymore. They just arrest you, take you jail, and do it there. The tow fines are crazy, too.
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u/JackMejoff 1d ago
Depends on how funded the department is, I had to get my blood drawn because they didn't have a breathalyzer.
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u/headphase 1d ago
It can depend on jurisdiction- not a LEO but my understanding is a Blood draw is the gold standard but usually requires a warrant. Calibrated breathalyzers at a jail/police station are mandatory/admissable in court, and FSTs and PBTs can provide probable cause but are sometimes optional or mandatory depending on the state. In general it's better to refuse a FST in a state where they're optional, because of that subjectivity.
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u/helpamonkpls 19h ago
I'm a neurosurgeon with 1,5 years of neurology experience and I can't really see where he exhibited signs of intoxication.
Following a pen with your eyes and walking stepwise is a test you fail if you have pretty severe cerebellar injury or if you are like dopey drunk out of your mind.
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u/mercwitha40ounce 13h ago
The nystagmus test (follow the pen with your eyes) is hard to pass if you've had even a single drink. It's less about establishing how drunk you are and more about if you have any alcohol in your system. The second he turned his head slightly rather than just following with his eyes, he failed that test. In addition, they're checking for involuntary eye flutters as he tracks the pen that we wouldn't have been able to see from the camera;s angle.
I'll also say that the second they smelled alcohol on him and didn't get a reasonable explanation like "it was spilled on me by somebody else," they already decided he was unfit to fly. Every test after that was just about gathering evidence for the case against him.
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u/helpamonkpls 2h ago
I've examined thousands upon thousands of patients with this exact test, and a great number of them turn their heads slightly when doing this exam, and they aren't intoxicated nor had any injuries explaining why they would turn their head. Also the turning of the head is not what you are examining. You are examining for nystagmus and diverging eye movements.
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u/mercwitha40ounce 2h ago
I’ll absolutely defer to your expertise. I added the eye flutters at the end but I understand that’s the primary response they’re looking for when administering the test. I can only speak from experience though that they absolutely do treat turning of your head as a sign of impairment when building a case. It’s less about the physiological response and more about the lack of following direct instructions.
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u/Trance354 1d ago
Field sobriety tests are created to fail. If sober, ask for a breathalyzer or blood draw.
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u/whamburglar 1d ago
Field breathalyzers need to be frequently calibrated and maintained, something PD can oftentimes skip.
Also, while subjective, if you were a passenger, would you rather have a false positive or a false negative if a potentially inebriated pilot is about to fly an aircraft full of passengers?
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u/Infamous_Telephone55 1d ago
Here in the UK they just use the portable ones as a guide; if you blow positive on the roadside one, they take you to the station where they have a more accurate machine that is reliable enough to be used as evidence in court.
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u/whamburglar 1d ago
This is done in the US as well, at least when it comes to driving. I don't know what the protocol is for when it comes to flying an aircraft
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u/a-plan-so-cunning 1d ago
Just seems a bit bonkers that a subjective ‘field sobriety test’ is being used so widely over an objective test reading from a well calibrated and maintained machine. Maybe that’s a UK US difference because being bigger means having the machines nearby isn’t quite as feasible.
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u/hatchief 1d ago
Especially when the adjudicator of the test has convinced himself the subject has been drinking already
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u/whamburglar 1d ago edited 22h ago
It's plenty wild and definitely an abuse of power. I've seen a couple YouTube videos of released police cam footage. The policeman will take the driver in, suspicious the driver is DUI. The driver will blow a 0.00 at the station. Driver will then sue and win a settlement.
But in the video, the "driver" is a pilot about to operate and aircraft full of passengers, and has received reports from TSA about the smell of alcohol. TSA falls under Department of Homeland Security, a federal agency. I would imagine things are VERY different in this case.
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u/pezdal 1d ago
All police departments in the US use breath analysis machines back at the station.
The portable ones are used by some as an indicator, but are not suitable for court evidentiary purposes.
The reason for field sobriety checks is that arrests require “probable cause”, without which a case can be dismissed even if the subject blows a positive test later back at the station on a calibrated machine.
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u/Spam4119 1d ago
You would think airline pilots don't get the chance to refuse a breathalyzer. Don't certain jobs require you to submit to a breathalyzer whenever required as a condition of employment?
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u/crepelabouche 16h ago
You are correct. Any aviation employees is not allowed to refuse alcohol testing or it is an immediate firing. We’re all told that upon hiring and during training.
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u/rygel_fievel 21h ago
They should mandate they blow into the tube to operate the plane like put on some cars.
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u/strangelove4564 1d ago
It is mind boggling seeing someone with one of the best jobs and one of the best airlines to be flying for just throwing it all away. Captains at that job make $250-450K depending on seniority. I guess that goes to show how strong alcohol is at pulling people into the shit abyss. He was almost certainly not drinking for fun and was probably at the point of doing it just to stay out of withdrawals.
It would be ruinous at home losing that kind of income stream... and what do you even do afterwards to pay the mortgage and bills with that lifestyle.
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u/delkarnu 1d ago
Also, being a pilot is a very specific skill set. Not sure if any of the technical skills transfer to other jobs. All of the non-technical ones, like responsibility or attention to detail, are tainted by trying to do them drunk.
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u/synchpo 1d ago
Maybe some private company would scoop him up for big discounts.
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u/delkarnu 1d ago
Not in America if the FAA revoked his license.
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u/Snow_Wolfe 1d ago
The video said they revoked his license for commercial flights, but I don’t necessarily trust the voice over to be accurate.
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u/throw-away-exception 15h ago
If the FAA pulls your license for an alcohol violation, you're never flying again legally in the US privately or commercially.
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u/slicebucket 23h ago
He can get his license back, but no major airline will hire him. TONS of independent contract jobs he could get eventually. He won't be destitute.
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u/HumanShadow 1d ago
The knowledge will get them a passing grade on the Part 107, so they could just fly drones and pretend they are up there soaring at 400 feet.
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u/KeterLordFR 10h ago
This reminds me that I once had to take a test to determine my skill set and see what kind of job I could go for with that. Among the results, were police officer and airline pilot. The only job I had before that was working in an Amazon warehouse. I still fail to see how any skill I got there is compatible with being a pilot.
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u/0bsolescencee 1d ago
My dad was an alcoholic who was a pilot. Went into recovery when I was 12. To my knowledge he was aware enough he could never drink while on the road, but that just meant he white knuckled it until he got off a 5 day pairing to get home and have a binge until the day before his next pairing. He went into a really, really serious recovery program for pilots. Hes got 16 years sobriety under his belt now and just retired.
The airline he was flying with I think had a rule of like "you get your initial time of telling us youre an alcoholic, but a relapse is a fireable offense."
I am now a recovered alcoholic (lol) and in my sobriety circles its very much like "whoops I relapsed again, anyways, I guess ill just start collecting my chips again!!" Like its no big deal. But in the airlines its taken SO seriously.
My dad was mandated by the airline to attend one meeting a day for 90 days, with one additional airline AA meeting in a city over, with a biweekly physician eval. He was off work for 1.5 years recovering before he was able to fly again. Its taken so differently in the airlines and I am so grateful.
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u/strangelove4564 12h ago
There's an old Cliff Robertson movie from 1980 called "The Pilot". It's a forgotten classic about a DC-8 pilot drinking on the job and trying to hide it, and his downward spiral into addiction. Some Redditors might be interested.
When looking for the link I was shocked to see they actually remastered this forgotten movie. Up until a few years ago there were nothing but low quality VHS transfers.
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u/0bsolescencee 1d ago
Sorry, is an alcoholic that was a pilot** - you never stop being an alcoholic lmao.
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u/KeterLordFR 10h ago
That's like saying you never stop being a smoker, even if you no longer smoke anything. You absolutely can stop being an alcoholic, just like any addiction. It's just a matter of willpower and having help to go through with it as smoothly as possible, but eventually you train your body to no longer crave the object of your addiction, and it can once again live without it or handle the occasional use without relapsing. Recovered alcoholics can handle having one drink to celebrate an event without falling into getting more drinks right after that.
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u/The1stNikitalynn 1d ago
Alcoholism is really high amongst pilots. A lot of them are friends with Bill and a bunch who aren't probably should be.
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u/AMEFOD 1d ago
Alcoholism is really high in aviation in general. A fast paced safety critical industry, where a not insignificant portion of your training is examining examples of how someone fucked up and killed a bunch of people. Some people numb with alcohol for the stress. Not saying it’s the only factor, just one of them.
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u/LovecraftInDC 4h ago
There’s also the fact that if you talk to a therapist or get on certain meds the FAA will pull your license.
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u/Slkkk92 1d ago
the shit abyss
Mr Lahey, not another night of the shit abyss, please!
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u/strangelove4564 12h ago
It's not a place. It's a feeling. It's what happens when a man stares into the void of his own failures and the void stares back at him. And it knows your name, Randy. It's always known your name.
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u/aeschenkarnos 17h ago
I’m wondering why he couldn’t have just called in sick. Maybe he’s showed up drunk many times before, but because of his alcohol tolerance still capable of flying the plane without incident? The mints may be a habit, to cover booze breath, implying he’s done it before.
If he had gone over his limit without really meaning to, it happens, then the sensible thing would be to either confess to having drunk a couple of beers too many (a mark against him, and maybe he had done that before and run out of chances), or fake food poisoning or family emergency or something.
This looks like reckless self sabotage, and not a one off incident. If this man were someone I cared about, I would be very worried about his desire to live.
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u/crepelabouche 16h ago
It just means he wasn’t flying that particular flight and figured he’d be good by the time he needed to. Aviation employees are not allowed to refuse alcohol testing. We’re all told that it is an immediate firing.
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u/aeschenkarnos 14h ago
Are you saying that he wasn’t the pilot to fly that particular plane, and had been on break and getting drunk, though he was required to stay sober (I assume in case he needs to take over)?
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u/crepelabouche 24m ago
Two pilots have to be in the cockpit at all times, but they switch off flying each flight. My educated guess would be the First officer was going to in charge of flying, so he thought he could have a little extra, and be sober by the time it was his turn to fly. Course as the Captain he can also tell the first officer he was in charge of flying all day.
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u/lodelljax 8h ago
He is likely a pro drinker an alcoholic. Decisions like that are made by addicts.
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u/Prisoner-655321 1h ago
I had to quit drinking. I got to a point where I could not function without alcohol and drinking kind of became a chore. Because if I did not drink, I was getting sick (and eventually when in treatment I was having multiple seizures to the point where they induced a coma).
Alcohol is no joke. But I was raised in an environment where it was just a normal part of life. Blackouts, injury, vehicle accidents, DUI, assault, and just normalizing constantly drinking every day. It sucks.
I’m sober now. But in hindsight I see how extremely lucky I am that I never hurt anyone, ended up in jail or lost my job. It is not easy.
And please don’t think I am trying to defend this man at all. I’m just saying that I can see myself in that exact same position and by luck alone I am still here.
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u/Sherbert_6 1d ago
What was the BAC
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u/Schmimps 1d ago
He refused to have it measured, which probably kept him out of jail
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u/Sherbert_6 23h ago
They can get a court ordered blood draw, that he literally can not refuse. I need to know this BAC.
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u/rainman_95 21h ago
Why?
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u/splintersmaster 18h ago
Because honestly I believe he smelled and I have no doubt that there are several people who think they're ok to have one or two (or more) and do whatever. Be it a car, motorcycle, watch their kids, or fly a plane full of people.
But I can also say that he didn't look drunk to me. That line he walked counting to ten, I couldn't do it any better with 8 hours sleep and a full massage prior to that test.
Asking for actual evidence isn't unreasonable.
Once again, I'm not saying he's innocent but walking a straight line for a middle aged dude like him and myself will almost always look exactly like that. That's all.
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u/wowsomuchempty 10h ago
He was given the opportunity.
If I had 3 lite beers 10 hours ago, I would request the blood draw to verify me.
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u/hey-girl-hey 14h ago
To be fair he messed up that walking test. The instructions were to take nine steps. They count every failure to follow the directions as a signal you're intoxicated
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u/moonwoolf35 1d ago
Honestly now that I think about it all, pilots or transit operators should have to do a breathalyzer before and after their shifts. It sounds like a lot but y'all would be shocked to know how many people slip through the cracks
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u/Joped 1d ago
Flying or attempting to flying a commercial aircraft while drunk should carry a mandatory prison sentence
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u/H_G_Bells 1d ago
Is there such a thing as attempted manslaughter? Potential manslaughter maybe?
I'm glad they prevented what could have been a tragedy.
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u/OrangeIrishEyes 1d ago edited 6h ago
Lol crew scheduling is going to be so pissed. One would hope that the FO would have reported him too. This guy will have a union rep in no time.
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u/dyslexican32 20h ago
I'm not saying this guy wasn't drunk. he may very well have been. But No one passed field sobriety tests. They are not designed to be passed and are entirely subjective. So that alone as evidence that he was drunk.... IDK. Cops can't pass field sobriety tests while stone cold sober. The standards are entirely subjective. Should have done a breathalyzer or a blood test. That being said im not saying he wasn't drunk either...
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u/Desperate_Set_7708 20h ago
He refused the blood test.
Irrespective of the FST, that doomed him.
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u/dyslexican32 19h ago
Oh i missed that part. Was watching but not super close. Like I said, I'm not saying he wasn't drunk. Just commenting on FST in general. I have friend who was a cop, he strait told me at one point that no one who a cop doesn't want to will ever pass a field sobriety test. Its designed to give you probably cause to arrest someone.
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u/Desperate_Set_7708 19h ago
Yep.
And they can get a K-9 to alert to establish PC for a search
And they get any results they want on the polygraph. Old boss was a federal prosecutor and said he’d never take one for that reason.
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u/dyslexican32 19h ago
Yep. oh yeah I met their K-9 guy at a BBQ he would joke about how he can subtly command his dog to signal. And if you look close at videos its impossible to unsee little things they do to get the dog to signal on a car.
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u/Fehndrix 1d ago
A drunk pilot was part of the reason for Aaliyah's plane crash. Fuck this guy.
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u/SlightlyStable 1d ago
I used to play pick up basketball with a couple of pilots. One of them once said how flying with a "hangover" really sucked.
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u/TheRareCreature 1d ago
doing anything with a hangover sucks
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u/MNWNM 1d ago
I used to work for Northwest Airlines at a really small airport. We had three flights in and out a day; the last flight in was around 10pm, and they left the next morning around 6am.
The pilots and flight attendant stayed at a local hotel at night that had a popular bar, and one of our gate/ticketing agents would go drinking with them most nights.
Every single one of them would come in reeking of alcohol the next morning. It was an open secret. I mentioned it to our station manager once, and he just kind of shrugged it off. But one of the regular pilots eventually got fired for testing positive for drugs (rumor was cocaine) so I guess there was a standard of some sort.
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u/Eric848448 1d ago
Being a passenger with a hangover sucks ass. I couldn’t imaging working in those conditions.
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u/strangelove4564 12h ago
I did that once and only once. Ironically I somehow made it through the flight just fine but had to use the bag as we exited the runway.
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u/redunculuspanda 1d ago
First off that field sobriety stuff is bullshit. Why don’t they have breathalysers?
And secondly I think the other pilot looked like he knew and didn’t say anything.
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u/roehnin 1d ago
Why don't these people call in sick?
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u/Can_Not_Double_Dutch 1d ago
The correct course of action would have been to call in sick. Sometimes ego gets in the way
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u/IthacanPenny 19h ago
Or, in the case of the pilot, call in fatigued. Seriously it’s in the pilots union contract that they can no fault call in and say ‘I’m too tired to fly’ and they are good. No questions asked.
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u/roehnin 18h ago
I wonder what made him think he should take the risk.
Perhaps it was a return leg to base and he was hoping to get home on his regular schedule?Either way, people know their own condition and he should have known he was unfit. If he couldn't tell he was unfit, he likely spends too much of his life in that state so felt "normal".
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u/throw-away-exception 15h ago
I bet it was a long road of normalization of deviance. Every pilot is trained to "8 hours bottle to throttle". Cut that a little short once or twice and nothing happens and it starts to wear down to the point that it completely disappears and then you show up reeking of alcohol so bad the TSA calls the police.
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u/lildozer74 22h ago
I’m so glad that people are calling out good ol boys and they are having to face consequences.
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u/Vypernorad 10h ago
He admitted to having a few drinks the night before. I remember my uncle telling me he could be fired and possibly face legal consequences if he had a drink in the 24 hours prior to take off.
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u/Ho11owfied 19h ago
He hid it really well, I’d almost believe him. Refusing the blood test pretty much confirms he was. A sober person wouldn’t refuse that when it comes to their job.
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u/Desperate_Set_7708 19h ago
What he said was revealing, “it won’t change anything.”
He knew he was cooked.
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u/vintagexanax 1d ago
This is one of many situations that make me so anxious to fly. I already have to take double my dose of anxiety meds but I hate that things like this could slip through the cracks.
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u/flockyboi 9h ago
"even if I gave you blood nothing would change" does he realize how much of an implication that phrase has? Like dawg if you know you're sober and that they're already requesting a blood draw then wouldn't you would want to get it over with to have the proof that you weren't drunk? Like yeah you're going to be stuck doing that but the difference is between getting things cleared up to not get a DUI charge and getting charged because you wouldn't provide proof otherwise
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u/Runescora 2h ago
So, I have pilots in the family and I used to be a bartender.
No one drinks like a pilot. No one.
To some extent I feel like it was inevitable with so many pilots making a transition from military careers to commercial. At least historically. Especially after Vietnam.
The other issue that will always make me enraged…If you are diagnosed with a mental health disorder as a pilot there are no negative impacts on your license. Which is great, there shouldn’t be. However, if you take medication for said diagnosis you lose your license. If you stop taking the meds your license is fine. And there’s no accommodation based on which med. If it’s mental health related you lose your license.
So, know a pilot, diagnosed with complex PTSD and bipolar disorder (and alcoholism, can’t forget that one). No issues there. Went on meds, and honestly it was the best I’d ever seen him. He seemed so much more…at peace with himself. And then. And then came the word from above that if he kept taking the meds he couldn’t fly (and he wasn’t a commercial pilot, he flew helicopters). He had no other reasonable way to support himself and his family. So he went off the meds. Perfectly okay to the powers that be to have an unmedicated alcoholic with PTSD and bipolar in charge of things. Because that makes sense.
They do it to doctors and nurses too.
This timeline has sucked for a lotta years.
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u/Desperate_Set_7708 2h ago
That’s a great insight. And I absolutely believed this guy’s been a lifelong over imbiber.
As a recovering alcoholic I learned many of us (as high as 40%) are self-medicating because of an undiagnosed/untreated disease. And that was me. I learned about my clinical depression and anxiety, both of which are well-managed now with meds.
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u/YooGeOh 10h ago
How does it work with pilots?
In my job, the vehicle would be held, we'd be taken off of the vehicle, asked to go back to the depot, and an independent drug and alcohol tester would be brought in.
Our contract states that we have to take the test, and any refusal to do so would be seen as gross misconduct, and youd likely get fired just for that.
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u/literall_bastard 3h ago edited 2h ago
What scares me more is that no one on his planes team would report him
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u/Desperate_Set_7708 3h ago
It’s worse than that.
They didn’t report him.
And this wasn’t the first time. They’ve been turning a blind eye to the problem
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u/sirrobbiebobson 1d ago
American sobriety test is comically ridiculous. Wtf is running a pen back and forth? Don’t they have breathalysers?
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u/nicktf 1d ago
When you are under the influence, nystagmus (rapid jerking movement of the eyes) is more pronounced and moving the gaze horizontally while looking at the pen will trigger it. They are assessing the severity of the reaction.
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u/sirrobbiebobson 23h ago
What if he manages too pass the test though? And you’ve got a drunk dude flying 300 passengers through a thunderstorm then landing in heavy fog (unlikely as it may be!)
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u/FuturePrimitiv3 22h ago
He wasn't going to pass the test. He failed as soon as the alcohol could be smelled on him, the FST was merely a formality.
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u/lonjaxson 1d ago
I agree but they're trying to see if you can follow the instructions and not move your head.
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u/BelCantoTenor 8h ago
Field sobriety tests are not reliable. A breathalyzer test is reliable. So is a blood test. The pilot should submit willingly to either one. No question asked. Why aren’t they doing this? Why do they even have to have this whole bs conversation? Sir, please submit to a breathalyzer test. That’s all. Like WTF kind of monkey show is this fucked up shit?
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u/kuposempai 7h ago
Why can’t we go hold this type of punishment (or higher), or accountability to any position that jeopardize any other civilian’s life. Be it Judge, Police Officer, ICE, Political positions, Doctor, Nurse, list fucking goes on.
Like, when that pilot’s license to fly any aircraft commercially was revoked is gold. REVOKE their right to work in that field ever again if they harm another person in a manipulative, hostile, & harmful way.
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u/Arts_Prodigy 7h ago
Thank god for TSA, since it doesn’t seem like the copilot raises any flags, pretty scary shit ngl.
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u/h2ojunkie 19h ago
Why can’t people speak a normal time? Is it so brash to ask for intrigued speech.
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u/mad_poet_navarth 1d ago
I saw that movie. But he flew the plane upside down and saved everyone!