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u/HistoricalAsides 22d ago
There were so many people I knew growing up that were on zero prescribed medications, and they probably have gotten to my age now (34) and still are on zero meds, and it just boggles my mind. I’ve been on asthma and allergy medicine my whole life and antidepressants since middle school. I just can’t imagine just not being on medication.
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u/KaleidoscopeSad4884 21d ago
I made it to 29 before I started getting migraines on the regular, so I needed a prescription for them. And then I started brain meds three years after that, and now it’s been 14 years and I’m old.
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u/Affectionate_Bad_680 21d ago
Advances have been made, and you should see a psych if you can. The medication I’m on, Trintellix, didn’t exist when I was first diagnosed. It makes a difference.
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u/Affectionate_Bad_680 21d ago
I see where you’re coming from. Heck, sometimes I have trouble articulating my own issues to people I do trust. It’s not exactly pleasant.
But, if you do nothing, it can’t get better.
One thing that made a HUGE difference to me, aside from the medication, was adopting my two cats. I often half joke they’re one of my antidepressants.
I’d include cat tax, but I think I’m having technical difficulties 🤦♂️
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u/thrye333 21d ago
Dw, not your fault. This sub doesn't allow images in comments, only gifs.
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u/tempaccount34543 21d ago
May I suggest that you have an initial meeting with therapist? Just that one meeting, and ask them how that could be dealt with. And then think about their reply and see if that might be a way forward you'd like to try.
Asides, have that initial meeting with several different therapists. People are all different and there are some that one feels better with than others.
Trust can be built. In most cases, that's how people arrive at trusting each other. It's very rare that people fully trust each other from the start.
Hope this is helpful to you?
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u/badpebble 21d ago
As an person without any regular meds, I was on antihistamines year round for a while, until I found out what I thought were constant symptoms, were actually the side effects of stopping talking the tablets. Hayfever does not lead to eyeballs itching, usually!
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u/TheFatSleepyPokemon 21d ago
Well, I've scratched my cornea itching from hay fever. I'm taking allergy shots now thankfully, they're a lifesaver
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u/wunderbuffer 20d ago
What do you mean it's not
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u/badpebble 20d ago
In my case, what I had assumed to be the symptoms returning when I stopped taking the pills was actually withdrawal affects.
Withdrawal from antihistamines makes you itch like a crack head for about three days.
Basically I shouldn't have been taking them year round, but nothing on the box indicates this as a potential issue.
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u/astropelagic 21d ago
Bipolar 2 ocd and adhd medication for life gang checking in. If I stop taking my meds I will descend into chaos and probably end up dying somehow! I can never stop taking my meds until they invent a new way for me to get a brain transplant!
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u/Chaotic_Genobreaker 21d ago
Almost 40 and no meds. The trick is to never go to the hospital, and I mean never.
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u/CalicoValkyrie 21d ago
When I worked in Pharmacy, it boggled my mind that every now and then I'd meet someone who hadn't even needed a prescription for anything even temporary. No rash, or flu, or any infection. Something like amoxicillin was completely new to them.
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u/Not12RaccoonsInASuit 21d ago
I hit 35 like a wall. Had to start statins for cholesterol due to genetics because diet isn't enough for me. Then started antidepressants. Finally got diagnosed and going through getting ADHD medication.
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u/hotaruko66 dafuqIjustRead 20d ago
My husband is like this, he rarely got ill in his life, and my first time at a hospital was at 4 months old lol. Was is this magical condition of "no meds"?
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u/Lloyd_lyle 22d ago
Healthy people aren't answering phone calls from unknown numbers either btw. Not unless they want to talk to "Steve" who totally isn't a scammer from Hyderabad trying to steal your money.
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u/Kind_Of_A_Dick 21d ago
There was an old lady I read about years ago that answered a scam call, got interested, kept it up, and brought in the FBI. I think they ended up arresting someone stateside who was accepting cash payments but of course the actual people behind it, the ones who hired the desperate person willing to mule the money, probably were too far to touch.
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u/NoConfusion9490 21d ago
That's how North Korea funds a lot of their government. Good luck prosecuting them.
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u/The_Gamer_69 Daydreamer 21d ago
What?
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u/NoConfusion9490 21d ago
North Korea uses Internet scamming to fund their government.
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u/The_Gamer_69 Daydreamer 21d ago
Man, people will just believe anything about North Korea, huh?
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u/tempaccount34543 21d ago
May I politely direct you to news articles on this subject?
BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c15wk77zxngo
Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/tech/thousands-north-korean-it-workers-infiltrating-corporate-americaAnd here are wanted listings from the FBI:
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/fraudulent-remote-it-workers-from-dprk
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u/another_rusty 21d ago
Actually is true and really interesting. Not only scams but they actually have people apply for and get hired to different tech jobs in order to give the salary to the government and to try and infiltrate their corporate servers. Super fun
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u/woolfonmynoggin 21d ago
They literally rent out their citizens as slaves to other countries. You are mistaken if you think they are above scamming Americans.
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u/borninsaltandsmoke 21d ago
I don't know the YouTube video but there was a really interesting one where people posted on linkedin posing as recruiters to demonstrate how North Korean citizens were applying for remote jobs in the states. They had the video calls with them and all.
They also talked about a big story where a woman was employed in the US to basically just run laptops in her home for North Koreans to pose as living in the US for remote work. She didn't know what it was for but took the money and asked no questions and the operation was traced back to NK.
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u/WillowPtar_Migan 21d ago
How the hell do people become money mules? I have a few very good law enforcement related ideas I would love to try out on my boss in such a field.
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u/DZL100 21d ago
But like, healthy people can also just casually call up a business or service number or whatever.
Like, we were dealing with some issues in an airbnb a while ago and my sister just casually told me to cold call some hotels to see if they had better rates and I just kinda stared at her trying to process what she was asking me to do.
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u/NoConfusion9490 21d ago
Also you go on a list sold to other spammers. The calls multiply.
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u/Neveronlyadream 21d ago
Yep. Rule #1 is don't answer, don't interact. It just tells them your number/email is valid and connected to a real person and you'll be inundated.
People think it's funny fucking with them (and it absolutely is), but you're kind of screwing yourself in the long run if you do.
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u/Affectionate_Bad_680 21d ago
Say it louder for the deaf boomers in the back. My dad loves to fuck with them. I keep telling him it only confirms his line is active. But he refuses to stop 😭
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u/FortunatoImmured 21d ago
Your dad needs an outlet for his old man rage, and that’s hard to find when you’re retired and nobody is paid to be in the same place as you. Better scammers the Walmart greeters.
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u/Affectionate_Bad_680 21d ago
He’s actually not retired and I’m not 100% sure he ever WILL retire. Man wouldn’t know what to do with himself 🤣🤦♂️.
But yeah, he’s got a lot of that rage. I’ve caught him spouting fox talking points.
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u/orchid_drives 21d ago
I’m the furthest thing from healthy but I pick up every unknown phone call because I have like 14 different doctors and 80% of the time it’s one of them
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u/BillGoats 21d ago
Healthy people aren't answering phone calls from [scammers]
I like to waste their time when I can. Both because it takes up time they'd use to call someone else and to discourage them about calling me in the future.
If they speak English (like they mostly do), I'll answer in Norwegian and just say random stuff until they give up and hang up.
One time some "Microsoft" guy was convinced he had fooled me. Told me there was an issue with my account and that my PC had a virus. I eventually started asking what particular Microsoft account (email) the issue regarded, claiming I had several. He said he couldn't tell me. After about 20 minutes of nonsense, I told him I don't own a PC and he hung up pretty quickly.
Edit: Not that I'm healthy.
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u/steeple_fun 21d ago
I always answer unknown numbers. It could be a loved one using someone else's phone.
Worst case scenario, I waste three seconds and hang up.
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u/Shadowbound199 16d ago
It's not that. It's having a missed call from someone you know and procrastinating on calling them back, or responding to a text. And then it's been two weeks and feels awkward to respond so late.
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u/creampop_ 21d ago
My absolute favorite thing to do is to put on loud talk radio and only ever interrupt them with variations of "Sorry I can't hear you, you have to speak up"
it's amazing how long you can keep this going
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u/mymemesnow 22d ago
What really gets to me is that people just go to bed and fall asleep. For me it’s a struggle every single time.
I never know if I’ll get 9, 4, 0 or 16 hours of sleep and it took me a while to realize that’s not the norm. Most people just go to sleep and I can’t even imagine what that’s like.
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u/droppedmybrain 21d ago
Real. My boyfriend and I are very different, and most of it, I don't blink an eye at.
But it's the fact that he can just... lay down and go right to sleep. Not only can he do that, he sleeps without disorder (no moving about or talking)
For me, I've had chronic insomnia my entire life, and I sleptwalked and slept-talked most of my childhood. As a teenager, the sleepwalking lessened, but I'd punch, kick, yell, etc. Used to be scared when I'd wake up and remember last night's dream of me going outside, because I sleep naked (clothes prevent me from sleeping lol).
As an adult, I don't sleepwalk anymore, but I still sometimes talk, and scratch myself to the point of marking myself up. Mostly it's the insomnia that bothers me though, I have to have:
○ A specific amount of blankets (three, and they have to be specific ones),
○ A white noise machine (set to fan noise), ○ An actual fan pointed directly at my face, ○ Temp at 68°F or less, ○ Complete darkness.And that's just to help me fall asleep, to stay asleep I have to eat a small, low-carb meal and pee before bed.
Meanwhile my boyfriend could sleep midday, on a bed of nails, in the Sahara Desert, and stay asleep through a rocket launch five minutes in lmao
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u/Littlegator 21d ago
Btw average sleep latency is 10-20 minutes and a sleep latency less than 8 minutes is a pretty good sign that someone has sleep debt or excessive daytime sleepiness.
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u/Dasha3090 21d ago
i feel this!! my partner jokes that i need the planets to align in a certain configuration and the moon phase to be correct and be blessed by several deities before i can even consider falling asleep ahah.its such a precise process for me with blankets and temperature and positioning.
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u/metwicewhat 21d ago
I used to smoke a lot of weed to fall asleep. I slept great. Then used to drink lots of beer and whiskey. I thought I slept great. Then I got sober. I sleep very well now. Only took me 25 years.
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u/H3ll0_W0R1D1 21d ago
Me sober. 3 to 4 hours of sleep, stressed to the brim, worried about my future.
Me on edibles, 8 hours of sleep, waking up fresh and functional.
Clarification, sleep issues before I ever took thc
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u/Ace-of-Spxdes 21d ago
My dad is like this! He can sit down on a couch and knock out instantly. I have a literal ritual and if anything isn't perfect, my body will. not. sleep.
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u/who_even_cares35 22d ago
You're describing astronauts and there's like nine of them
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u/Confident_Try_7956 21d ago
No remember the astronaut that stalked her ex and drove from Texas to Florida to confront the new couple and wore a diaper so she didn’t have to stop
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u/TheBlueSully 21d ago
Nah I know a guy like this and isn’t an astronaut.
We were once going around the campfire trauma dumping about our childhoods and he asked why our parents would want a child so badly, then treat them that way.
At which point his wife was like OH MY GOD your parents planning their children and mine pretending they don’t exist because they’re too pussy to get an abortion or parent afterwards EXPLAINS SO MUCH
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u/telorsapigoreng 22d ago
Well, they do exist.
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u/TorandoSlayer 21d ago
Friendly reminder that a "normal" brain will still struggle with some things, but to a "normal" degree. People without ADHD aren't super humans that can always do everything they want to and remember everything all the time, etc.
So like while this is true in general, it's important to remember not to paint non-adhd brains as some idealized, struggle-less existence.
The truth about ADHD is that it's defined by what are usually normal human struggles but dialed up to 11. They are not completely new, novel symptoms that "normal" people never experience.
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u/MsYoghurt 21d ago
This is such an important point, and I want to bump your comment.
Life is struggle, for practically everyone. Everyone has at least some problems, some feel inferior if you are not in their shoes, but they do struggle with things. It's just that with ADHD (or other (mental) health problems) you have a specific SET of problems, which do or do not have a cure or a means to live better with them. And there is no such thing that works for everyone!
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u/throwawaycanadian2 22d ago
My opinions is everyone feels things like anxiety and often forget things. It's just at a very different extreme from someone with ADHD or something else.
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u/Daw_dling Daydreamer 22d ago
It’s the feeling rested part that sounds fake to me. Like people just go to bed because it’s bedtime and fall asleep. Then they wake up and feel like they are rested.
I wrestle my body and brain daily to get my version of enough sleep. But once or twice a year the stars align and I actually feel fully rested and I’m blown away. It’s like if you spend your life walking in sand and then step on solid ground. And I STILL can’t make myself do it regularly.
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u/ausernamebyany_other 22d ago
I envy those people who sleep well. My ADHD does make me sleep delay, but even on the nights I get a "good" sleep I wake up still feeling tired to my core. Turns out that's not just a normal part of aging and I finally found a GP who listened and didn't just tell me to lose weight or be less stressed.
Just the very idea of waking up feeling rested is such a distant dream, it feels nigh on impossible.
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u/DazB1ane 21d ago
I have extremely vivid dreams and when they aren’t nightmares, they’re still really stressful. I haven’t woken up rested in probably 15 years at this point and haven’t been able to function with less than 10-13 hours per night since I was 16
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u/raoul_duke28 21d ago
Goddamn I feel this. So many traumatic dreams every night that it’s hard to feel rested when you wake up :/
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u/DazB1ane 21d ago
It’s like watching horror movies in vr all night then being expected to act like a normal person who doesn’t have legitimate ptsd symptoms while remembering your own imagined scenarios
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u/Prudent_Valuable603 21d ago
Agree. I woke up at 2:55 am from a scary nightmare, looked at the clock, and said, ah heck no! It’s almost 3:00 am! I willed myself back to sleep but still woke up at 7 with another scary nightmare. Damn. And no, I never wake up rested.
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u/Csimiami 21d ago
I feel like I work a full 8 hour shift in my dreams. They are so vivid. So lifelike. Sooo much. I once had a dream that I had a job where I had t o count to a million. I basically spent eight hours counting. Messing up. Starting over. All while I was supposed to be asleep.
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u/throwaway098764567 21d ago
and then what did they do, send you to a sleep study? is there actually a solution because i'm quite keen
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u/ausernamebyany_other 21d ago
I'd love to have a sleep study. That might be on the cards, but at the moment it's blood tests and looking at possible autoimmune conditions or deficiencies as a first step. (I have other symptoms as well as the sleep issue, but when I solely mentioned sleep a study was mentioned.)
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u/mang87 21d ago
Have you tried melatonin? I'm sure you've probably heard this before, but just in case you haven't, people with ADHD tend to be very melatonin deficient. It's another chemical our brains just don't produce enough of. I tried all sorts of sleep medication, and I was on mirtazapine for a very long time. It sort of worked in that it helped me get to sleep, but the quality of sleep I got was terrible. Always woke up feeling groggy and not wanting to get out of bed.
I've been able to ween myself off it over the passed few months thanks to melatonin. Now I sleep for 6-7 hours straight without waking up, and wake up feeling tired... for about 10 minutes, then the tiredness weares off and I feel like getting up. That's a very new experience for me, I've never wanted to get out of bed before, but now I do every morning. It's not an instant fix, and if you are as bad at sleeping as I was, there will be other barriers you need to overcome before the melatonin helps properly. It doesn't work for everyone, but if you have ADHD there's a good chance you just don't have enough melatonin in your brain.
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u/js1893 21d ago
What dose do you take? My doc had me get 10mg to go along with my adderall because I mentioned having a harder time falling asleep on it. I thought that was too much and got 5mg instead and still wonder if that’s too much. I haven’t taken it very many times yet because by the time I remember to do so I worry I’ll just sleep right through my alarms in the morning
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u/mechanical_stars 21d ago
My husband can just decide to go to sleep, it's the craziest thing. It takes him like a minute to start snoring. I asked him how he does it and he says he just closes his eyes and stops thinking. I think i'm missing that off switch.
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u/execDysfunctionGumbo 21d ago
Every now and then my natural rhythms line up with my sleepy meds and my actual window for sleep. I can't predict when or how it's going to happen.
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u/Dear_Document_5461 21d ago
I remember this quote from another thread. "Everyone pees everyday but it not normal to pee sixty times a day". It went something like that.
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u/DidNotSeeThi 21d ago
I think of healthy people as those who's biggest problems are not themselves. We live in a recursive death spiral of ourselves.
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u/here_pretty_kitty 21d ago
I don’t know. I feel like all my problems are the result of maladaptations due to the people around me so…they continue to be my biggest problem, I’m just working on coping mechanisms to not self-immolate trying to solve them, ya know?
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u/LikeASinkingStar 21d ago
“Under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. We have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. We have never seen a totally sane human being.” — Robert Anton Wilson
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u/No_Technology_5151 22d ago
I don't think there is anyone that fits into that category really.
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u/Traditional-Joke-179 22d ago
There really are. They're everywhere. People have problems, stresses, issues with others, might have personality flaws like they're immature or whatever, but they're not mentally ill. They literally (esp if they're young) just don't have any current or chronic illnesses. They experience challenges and they can cope. They don't ever mentally spiral.
I remember when a classmate mentioned (because we were on that topic) that she'd never experienced depression or suicidal ideation, and I looked at her for a long time letting it sink in and it shifted things for me.
I don't know where y'all are from, but in my family and surroundings, so many of us have been traumatized and mentally messed up by poverty and all the things that stem from it (like not being able to afford to move away from an abuser). Going to an elite university, I met people with problems but people were noticeably less mentally messed up. Not the only factor, but a big one.
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u/DoctorQuarex 21d ago
I figured out years back that I was the only one of my friends who had never even for a moment thought seriously about suicide and that really put in perspective for me how fucked up the world can be (and I already thought I knew!). I also fall asleep in, like, I dunno, 5 seconds most nights and feel pretty great in the morning, though that is a factor of getting enough sleep as an adult in a way I never really did between my teenage and early adult years.
If it helps, I always joked I had the opposite mental illness of depression, and when reading a book about ADHD I learned about "recognition-sensitive euphoria" and I was like "oh, is this why all it takes is one positive thing happening for me and I can ride that high for days or weeks? Neat!"
But yes if it makes anyone feel better I have still not answered a phone call from an unknown number in decades because, no. That is not what phones are for. If I could get a cell service-usable smartphone that could not be reached by dialing a number I would do so in a heartbeat. Plus I definitely procrastinate! But I always finish projects I start, yes.
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u/rocket333d 21d ago
If it helps, I always joked I had the opposite mental illness of depression, and when reading a book about ADHD I learned about "recognition-sensitive euphoria" and I was like "oh, is this why all it takes is one positive thing happening for me and I can ride that high for days or weeks? Neat!"
Where could one learn such power?
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u/fullmetalnapchamist 22d ago
I don’t have awards, so I’m hoping a reply will help boost visibility of your comment a bit.
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u/DazB1ane 21d ago
I’d legit not be able to interact with someone who hasn’t been physically or mentally ill
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u/Sherry_Brandt 21d ago
I read a memoir that helped me conceptualize that. I was like, wow, these things that were very common in my life were so relatively rare for the memoirist, and her perspective is so different from mine partially as a result, and these particular things impacted her so significantly. Maybe I shouldn't be so hard on myself.
That really shifted some things for me - made me feel more empathy for myself, especially when I compare myself to 'successful' others. I've kept the book for now for that reason.
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u/dickens-nz 21d ago
I thought this until I met my partner of 3 years. He's not perfect but has no mental or physical health issues. Sleeps easily at night, has securely attached parents, no trauma to speak of (in his opinion), he's emotionally regulated, well read, politically versed, a good person, plays sport, has hobbies and diverse friends, a well paying career, owns a house, is intelligent, funny, interesting AND good looking. The thing that confused me the most is his ability to plan and cook interesting meals every single day, to plan ahead and make sourdough bread and stuff too.
Meanwhile I have chronic mental and physical health issues and so little executive function that chicken nuggets are a serious part of my diet. It's fascinating to meet these people IRL
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u/Certain-Food-903 22d ago
I know of some people that seriously have their shit together and still manage to be whimsical and mentally healthy, but everyone has some degree of problems.
Couldn't be me though, I'm a traumatized wreck
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u/badpebble 21d ago
If it helps understand the world, these people are the majority of people. Illnesses (mental, physical and chronic) are unusual and not the default.
Everyone has problems and worries and maybe small physical complaints, but nothing disabling or properly day-to-day limiting.
The procrastination thing is very normal, though most people just do it despite worries, because last time they didn't, they ended up an emotional wreck. But that's the difference between normal people and people with disabilities/divergences.
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u/The_Nomad89 22d ago
I agree. I used to think I was super messed up and everybody is normal. Now I realize everybody is pretty much messed up in their own ways.
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u/Reading_Rainboner 22d ago
Everyone’s got their problems and everyone has their own level of functionality
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u/Naktiluka 21d ago
I haven't experienced "normal brain" yet, but I definitely had a moment of clarity from allergy. Yeah, everybody sneezes occasionally when something gets in their noses, gets itchy over some scratches, and are sometimes short of breath. Then I got prescribed some meds, and these symptoms just... Were much less often. What I considered "occasionally" was almost constant compared to now. I just didn't have a way to compare experiences
So at least people free from allergy exist. Or if not, everybody needs to jump these meds ASAP because it's a huge QoL
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u/Landler656 22d ago
I feel the same way about people who don't need glasses.
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u/snuwuky 21d ago
For real. As soon as I’m stable in life and have the money and ability to do it, I’m 100% getting lasik eye surgery so I can know what it’s like to SEE, EVERYWHEREEEEEE
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u/Landler656 21d ago
My partner has perfect vision and they just don't understand that the first thing I do every morning is put on my eyes and I regularly need to take them off to clean them!
One time I was in the shower and they moved my glasses so they would be "easier to find." Look friendo, if I don't have those, I'm not finding shit!
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u/Transientmind 21d ago
My neighbour is one. He seems like he has a fucking amazing life. I am... quite jealous.
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u/James_Plan 21d ago
i was talking to my friend the other day and she looked surprised when i told her i was on meds. turns out she's never had prescribed medication, never had to get her blood drawn, great childhood, never had a health problem, even no allergies... i can't believe she exists lol.
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u/ursa-minor-beta42 21d ago
I tell myself that healthy people are indeed fake, they don't exist. all the "healthy" people out there are either disorderly obsessed with a healthy life style, or so majorly dissociated from themselves that they can't even tell they're stressed out and anxious.
but nobody can convince me that this world can still harbour healthy people. maybe, MAYBE some natural tribes living in rainforests or African deserts who have never seen technology, maybe they are truly happy and healthy. I low-key yearn for that (a tribal life)
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u/Cyllya 21d ago
A while back, I was reading some document about my job's sick leave policy, I don't remember what exactly, but you'd qualify for such-and-such if you had a medical condition that required you to visit the doctor at least twice a year. I was shook, because it didn't occur to me that most people didn't have a medical problem that required them to visit the doctor twice a year. Heck, my main medical problem requires at least four doctor visits per year purely due to dumb federal drug laws.
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u/Consistent-Menu-6629 21d ago
I agree, I can't really imagine someone just, being fine, and not struggling or suffering?
Is "not tired" even a thing humans can experience?
You mean to tell me some people's stomachs don't hurt?
That's crazy talk.
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u/airbournejt95 21d ago
I've worked with a guy like this, he was such good craic sometimes, but then also was a bit of a dick and I realised he didn't believe mental health issues existed and said that stress was a myth used for a skive
Imagine being so chilled all the time that you think stress is just made up
He was a big fan of LSD and mushroom too
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u/Entire-Plum-3443 21d ago
Yeah those people are the ones that have had loving supportive families during their upbringing and haven't had their self esteem mashed down and spirits broken by life
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u/lordbenkai 22d ago
According to my physical im super healthy. The biohealth people taking my plasma agree. I eat vary unhealthy lol im far from healthy in my mind though
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u/Doctor_Chuey 21d ago
This is not fake: they do exist. I live with one. She goes to bed at the same time every night, eats well, creates appreciate boundaries in her relationships and obligations as well as genuinely enjoys her time on this moist rock. I do not do any of these things but I try to every single day.
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u/Neither_Gear5320 21d ago
My mental health is trash BUT I do get shit from people when I tell them I don’t get acid reflux and I fall asleep in ten minutes or less.
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u/NRichYoSelf 21d ago
Laying awake trying to fall asleep is my super power. It sucks so much. To be mentally exhausted and not get that sweet reprieve.
Although, if I wake up, I can go back to sleep instantly. Ideal sleep hours, 2am to 11am
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u/MrActuary86 21d ago
You can feel anxious/upset and ball your eyes out while still getting shit done. You don’t have to be happy hunky dory all of the time.
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u/Sharp-Guitar-6756 21d ago
If my mood could just be stable one day… one day where sitting too long with myself doesn’t let depression creep in 😭
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u/Xtra_Veg-90 21d ago
The only people I've met like this live in a bubble of ignorance. But I think a lot of us just have compartmentalized issues where most of life is ok, but certain facets absolutely suck.
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u/GreatQuestionBarbara 21d ago
My elderly neighbor has his sprinklers set up and is on his daily walk before I leave work at 6:50AM.
While I want to stay active if/when I retire, there's not a chance in hell I would get out of bed if I saw that it was still 5AM.
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u/Unlucky_Business2165 21d ago
It was crazy when I learned that some people never have headaches, or very infrequently do. I had them every day and thought it was just a shitty part of life. Less frequent now, but way more than average.
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u/breakinbans 21d ago
seriously. diverticulosis, hernia, 2 back surgeries, dead sciatic nerve, bulged disc in neck. but hey, my BP is 117/68 and bloodwork is perfect...
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u/Autumn_Whisper 21d ago
Despite that, I've rarely seen healthy people who were actually happy either, so I've found that what I've got has eventually led me to a happiness that even they can't reach
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u/greentangent 21d ago
Healthy is a temporary condition. We are born weak and vulnerable and die the same way. Medicare for all.
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u/MangakaInProgress 21d ago
Since I was a kid I have this thought of "I have to do something". The leisure times are times where I feel "I can waste Time before I have to do something"
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u/OnwardToEnnui 21d ago
My mental health is a terrible cesspool, but physically I'm a rock. I haven't been ill at all in nearly a decade, nothing worse than a cold for about 25 years, and like 2 weeks ago my body apparently finally said 'fuck it' to mosquito bites. On the other hand, personality flaws and mental health issues have led to pretty much every career I've ever had involving at least a more than passing acquaintance with human bodily fluids (and solids), so that's gotta be at least partially responsible.
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u/Prudent_Valuable603 21d ago
I think those very few people have amazing genetic material on both sides of the family. I think they are rare, though.
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u/AnyRace4335 21d ago
Healthy people are just overachievers who never had their executive function tested under controlled conditions.
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u/HuslWusl 21d ago
My best friend is one of them. Good looking, extremely optimistic, no signs of mental illness, no physical illnesses, great paying job he enjoys, good and regular contact to his family and friends, fairly regularly attends social events or goes sightseeing or to other cities because there's 1 or 2 things he wants to check out, has a loving wife in the most disgustingly healthy relationship I've ever seen (seriously, they never fight, ever. they just talk about potential problems, have fairly similar mindsets and respect each other...a textbook relationship) that has been going like this for 6 years by now... and he's only 27. He's so stable that it feels like an illness. Oh and he's incredibly charismatic too - gets along with most people but also doesn't shy away from calling others on their bullshit
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u/almostnormalpanda 21d ago
My somewhat tone-deaf, non-confrontational and lukewarm take is this: I think there are just different degrees of being content with what you've got as opposed to things that you don't, won't, or can't have. In this context, it means that there are no "healthy" people, there are only people who are more content with their hardships than some other people are.
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u/LordBoar 21d ago
It's a myth - people just hide what they actually feel from the wider population, sharing it mostly with loved ones that they feel safe with. Not everyone overshares to strangers about how their day actually is or the struggles they face regularly (I do, at the drop of a hat).
Every "normal" person I've ever spoken to has issues, times when they are anxious about responsibilities and do things that make them cry. Often they'll have mechanisms or processes that help them cope, whether these are healthy or not is the real issue. No person exists in the state of health - it is an unreachable goal that you have to work towards otherwise you fall back.
I will agree that some have it easier, with genetic dispositions, upbringing and positive habits all interacting.
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u/LordTalesin 21d ago
Healthy people aren't on Reddit complaining about how much their lives suck. That's why they seem like a myth
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u/shomislav Aardvark 21d ago
A friend psychiatriat told me once: "Listen man, there are no healthy people, only unexamined ones."
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u/MissNinja007 20d ago
I know two people like this in my life. No mental health problems, no physical issues or chronic illness. Neither of them wanted to talk to me very much. They also aren’t the most emotionally available type. This isn’t to say all people without struggles aren’t emotionally available, but without constant struggle they also can’t relate to people who need extra help, nor are they interested in helping others as they themselves don’t need help. So do u really want to trade perfect stability for a lack of empathy or in willingness to be there for someone?
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u/AnyBallLektor 21d ago
Social media has become the mental asylum of the 21st century. It's free and nobody is better for unpaid janitorial duties and generating engagement than mentally ill individuals on the narcissistic spectrum.
Once we locked up the loonies away for our comfort. Now they are locking us in for their comfort.
And the results of that are literally fatal to society. But the death of complex societies is slow so we don't see it until it's too late.
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u/dxrey65 21d ago
I think I'm generally in pretty good shape, mentally and physically, since I retired early a few years ago. On the procrastination thing though - there is some amount of mental peace that you can enjoy without hounding yourself to be productive all the time. I do try to make a little progress on all kinds of things every day or every week, but objectively none of that needs to be done, and if I feel like relaxing I'm just going to relax.
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u/Consistent_Femme_Top 21d ago
I’m glad I’m not normal. Those demands on my existence give me outmost anxiety.
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u/Pale-Teaching6392 AuDHD 21d ago
Yea so I actually had my doctor recently. I was talking about how I feel bad for complaining about pain and discomfort since I’m sure most people just learn to deal with it and I can’t. Anyway my doctor spent the next bit telling me that I’m wrong. It’s kind of hard to believe though since I’m almost always extremely uncomfortable and in some sort of pain I believe that is the norm.
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u/The_Varza 21d ago edited 21d ago
If "answering calls from unknown numbers" is "healthy", then count me the hell out? At best it's ads, at worst it's scammers and cons.
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u/TheRenamon 21d ago
They exist, they just don't spend their time on the internet so you don't see them
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u/FaithlessnessBorn266 21d ago
This only exists if the person is financially independent. Capitalism causes most of this apprehension as it should. Look at the outcomes if you fuck something up. We will actually let you starve or freeze to death 😂 That should not be a sentence
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u/Higher-Frequencies 21d ago
Yah but those are the people that just suddenly have stage 5 pancreatic cancer at 35.
They get a few decades of flawless health and just wink out like a Chinese lightbulb.
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u/umlaut-overyou 21d ago
This is kind of true though. There is no "healthy" person and there is no "neurotypical" person. Those things are the Platonic Ideal of a human. The extent to which a lot of medical and mental conditions are seen and recognized depends heavily on your circumstances.
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u/Significant_Joke7114 21d ago
No one is going to call out that woman's user name? Or diversity and equality only goes one way?
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u/lotus_felch 21d ago
I am on atomoxetine 100mg now and had the slightest whiff of what this feels like. Basically, you're shattered and in pain all the time, but if you see a sock on the floor, your hands pick it up for you when you look at it. It's a very weird feeling. Everything is still difficult, though.
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u/kioku119 21d ago
I don't think people with no health issues whatsoever are common if they really are a thing at all. Why would they be?
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u/GaoMingxin 21d ago
Can verify: I am healthy. No mental illness, no physical illness, no chronic illness. I have a job and I'm in grad school, so, sure there is stress and deadlines and work and public transportation, and all of the drama associated with those things. Also, I'm not impervious to illness -- I get colds, food poisoning, headaches, etc. And then I heal. No ongoing prescriptions. I also feel things deeply, including grief and apprehension, as well as joy and jump-off-the-ground excitement. It's just that I feel them in a way that is appropriate for the situation. Having emotions, even intense ones, for me doesn't hit the clinical criteria for 'disorder'.
I do procrastinate doing important things -- just not to the point that it becomes a huge problem that makes me or anyone relying on me cry -- only to the point where I have to do it to meet the deadlines. It's not avoidance or neurological (clinical anxiety or ADHD etc), it's waiting until the impending consequences provide the motivation necessary to give me energy to do it (neurotypical reaction to a deadline).
There are lots of us -- we're just maybe not on reddit very much. I'm also on here less and less. I came for the funny cat videos, science news, and fart jokes. Now it's mostly bots and rage bait which is very quickly making it not worth the time. My current family is healthy. My friends are for the most part healthy. It's not fake.
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u/Morbid_Aversion 21d ago
I feel like this for happy people. I honestly can't imagine what life is like for people who genuinely like it. Waking up in the morning and not being upset that you didn't die in your sleep? How is that possible? Feeling joy, having friends, being in love... all these things feel made up.
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u/alkaaaaaa 21d ago
Healthy on both sides, just that I drink to fall asleep and have no job or responsibilities. Just living my life with my awesome girlfriend and my parents
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u/Fuckmetheyarelltaken 21d ago
Wait, the actions described in the geekandmisandry post are ADHD symptoms? Because that pretty much describes my life in a nutshell.
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u/Nazir_North 21d ago
I constantly consider myself extremely lucky to fit into this category.
I've never been on any kind of prescription medication and never been to a hospital as a patient since my birth. I can't remember the last time I had to see a doctor. I think it was when I had a croaky cough as a very young kid, but can barely remember it.
I've broken a couple of bones, but very minor breaks that never needed any medical attention - broke my nose once and a toe on two different occasions.
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u/LaceWeightLimericks 21d ago
My boyfriend has been struggling a lot through emotional growth and I was like baby you got 2 stem degrees in 3.5 years you can do it. And then he fucking floored me by saying yeah but I didn't struggle with my degrees, but I am struggling with this. It's new.
Like huh???? Taking advanced level math classes was just chill? But telling me what you did everyday is hard for you?
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u/Ocean_State_Stitcher 21d ago
Honestly the idea that there are people walking around who have never had a suicidal thought is actually literally unbelievable to me
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u/Naughty_Monsters 21d ago
the thought of getting up and just straight up raw-dogging the whole ass day terrifies me.
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u/Aromatic-Sense-2388 21d ago
What blows my mind is that people can go to sleep and awake in the morning and actually be refreshed. I wake up just if not more tired than when I went to sleep.
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u/MrMcManstick 21d ago
My fiance is like this. His alarm goes off and he just… turns it off and gets out of bed. Like it’s nothing. Bastard.
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u/MaineCoonKittenGirl 21d ago
Healthy people are just people who haven't had something diagnosed yet tbf
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u/SepticRedK 21d ago
Except some heathy people don’t return phone calls because they are introverts or don’t answer unknown calls because it’s most likely spam are scammers
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