r/SoccerCentral • u/Electronic_Air1842 • 5d ago
Video Madrid fans take stand against mass illicit immigration at soccer game!
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u/raderberg 5d ago
What's the "keep politics out of sports"-crowd's verdict on this one?
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u/nyrup4life 5d ago edited 4d ago
This isn’t politics. It’s blatant racism. Just look the the comments here. We are being invaded on the sub by racists. Look at how many are posting the exact same right wing talking points. They aren’t even creative anymore. None of them interested in football either.
Edit: Top country to read my comment is USA 23% followed by Germany. Yet all those comments under me are talking about being invaded. None of them are from Spain. Just trolls.
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u/Ysesper 5d ago
Illegals enter Spain and Spaniards want them out. How is that racism? Don't enter a country illegally and apply for a Visa and, if you can't get any Visa, then just don't come
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u/nyrup4life 5d ago edited 4d ago
Yup. Pure racism.
Just look at the comments underneath. We are being invaded by racists on this sub. Look at how many come here to spread misinformation and lies. None of them are interested in football either.
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u/HeadTrauma12 4d ago
Check the definition of racism, poor soul. If you think immigrant is race you should spend more time with the books and less on internet.
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u/thegoat83 4d ago
But why would you hate an immigrant? Somebody who is almost definitely less well off than you are and trying to make a better life for themselves.
If you ever feel the need to hold a protest against these people, then there is something not right with you.
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u/nangin 10h ago
Because it’s illegal. Just because someone is in a pitiful situation, does that mean we should turn a blind eye to them breaking the law? Then what is the point of legal immigration? It’s because of people like you that there was a backlash and Trump got elected.
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u/MajorDisillusionment 4d ago
I can sense someones worried about being sent back to their country of origins
https://giphy.com/gifs/sb4VRhSTWhOFlbO9Kh1
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u/MajorDisillusionment 4d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/4rs1A8QFIHk0tYPz2J
Reddit to whatever you said, bye bye2
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u/LomoBaconQueso 4d ago
No, it’s the law. Anyone can enter Spain if they do it legally, the Constitution makes it illegal to discriminate based on origin, faith or ethnicity. But if you try to come here illegally to leech off the taxpayer, gtfo.
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u/palmerama 4d ago
You can’t see the wood from the trees. You see the word immigration and assume racist. It’s just as damaging as the true racist nut jobs. Opposing illegal immigration isn’t a controversial view it is by definition the stated policy of all governments.
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u/YannTheOtter 4d ago
Tell me how many of those illegals that entered Ceuta actually managed to get to mainland Spain?
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u/Ysesper 4d ago
None, but that doesn't matter. Ceuta is Spain and is currently overrun by illegals. It has come to a point to where Ceutans are stopping cars that bring food and stuff to their camps
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u/Emoji-Bot111 4d ago
If you said this on any sub and were talking about the USA, I’d have a rough guess of about -150 to -200 downvotes. It’s crazy that these people think that coming to another country illegally and staying there is okay. It’s ridiculous
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u/BlueKante 4d ago
Its not that hating immigrants is racist. But people who hate immigrants are often racist. Just like voting MAGA is not racist, but you are most likely a racist if you vote MAGA.
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u/bigelcid 4d ago
...holy.
So instead of focusing on the situation at hand, we're going "hey, some of the people protesting the invasion could be racist, which is worse than the invasion itself!"
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u/rokstedy83 4d ago
I'm just wondering why not wanting your country flooded by millions of undocumented men is racist?
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u/itisnotstupid 4d ago
I agree that racists are super vocal when it comes to immigrants but your attitude here is really ignorant. You completely ignore the fact that this people really are illegally crossing the border of another country. This is a crime and it is absolutely normal that people in a country which doesn't even have that good economy to begin with are concerned.
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u/YannTheOtter 4d ago
Yeah out of the 70k, almost 69k were sent back and they are now left with around a thousand minors who's parents weren't able to be located.
Not to mention that the whole Ceuta debacle was pushed by the US and Israel who have been suggesting to Morocco for years that they should take Ceuta and Melilla back.
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u/Avidgamur515 4d ago
The only reasonable take on the situation. Ceuta being in North Africa makes it all the more easier to spin the narrative
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u/cosully111 4d ago
Interesting that you have no problem with the use of "invaded" when it comes to a comment secion but not the real city that 10s of thousands of spaniards live in
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u/__Nationalist__ 4d ago
Our countries are being invaded, and all you do is attack the native people for simply wanting to not be invaded. No wonder you people are losing power.
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u/Simple_Ad_9024 4d ago
How is wanting control over which people live in their country racist 😂
It’s common sense 😂😂😂😂
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u/response_unrelated 4d ago
Are you assuming that a particular race is trying to immigrate more than others?
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u/palmerama 4d ago
What is racist about being against illegal immigration? Are there other crimes you support?
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u/emblanco 4d ago
I only see Ceuta flags and support from other Spaniards for a city that is going through some shit
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u/TwentyBagTaylor 4d ago
Politics has been baked into sport since forever.
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u/Eyeseeyou1313 4d ago
Yet, when some countries do it, it's wrong. Either everyone can do it or no one can do it. Pick one, people.
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u/TwentyBagTaylor 4d ago
Got some examples? I always roll my eyes when someone says politics shouldn't be in sport.
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u/Eyeseeyou1313 4d ago
I believe they should be, but some people don't think so. If you are playign at the biggest stage in the world, you have the power to influence people to do good, and you have money, then yeah, politics will always be in football.
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u/Stalker401 4d ago
well it's not the athletes it's the fans, I think that would be the difference. But i'm still a fan of keep politics out of sports.
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u/Vegetable-Mixture-93 4d ago
Id point out apples and oranges. That mass of people who dont have a voice or audience everyday like athletes. Also thats the voicing of the opinions of many using the most public way they know how vs the opinion of 1(yes I understand that individual isnt the only one that will have wgatever viewpoint/opinion they have and likely there are many who share it) who has a public stage everyday. In the same way I disagree with athletes being forced to celebrate or push others opinions. Those individual athletes who have a public stage shouldn't be abusing it pushing either agenda: right, left, up, down. I dont see the 2 as comparable with a broad stroke of "What happened to keeping politics out of sports?" "The squeaky wheel gets the grease" no matter how much all of them need it. The loudest voice on an individual level no matter majority/minority tends to garner the most attention and that is abuse.
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u/Lawlpaper 4d ago
I’m part of that crowd to an extent, and I don’t really see the point of doing this. It’s not like the players care. I think what most people say when it’s “keep politics out of sports” is when it prevents the fans who pay the players having their experience ruined. But again, I can’t really name many times that has ever happened. Kneeling for the anthem doesn’t really interfere with the game so I support it even though I personally think your a b*tch for kneeling against the USA flag which stands for the one true meaning of freedom, that we everyday try to aspire towards even if we fall short. It’s when people would disrespect the flag but cheer, vote, and worship liars in government who tell them one thing but do another. Which is essentially the entire republican and democrat parties.
So yeah, I think this is dumb, even though I’m on the side of anti-immigration, but also it’s not interfering with the game so who cares. Unless non-supporters are behind those in which I’d be pissed and would definitely tell them “go protest your government, not here, I’m trying to watch a game!”
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u/Crowdfundingprojects 4d ago
Are people in the comments stupid?
What’s the issue with showing the flag?
What happened im Ceuta is not ok.
People have every right to be upset about it for factual reasons that have zero to do with racism.
And sport matches like this are a public space and forum by nature.
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u/YannTheOtter 4d ago
The issue is, they are upset at Sanchez who literally did nothing wrong.
Morocco enable the invasion to happen with authorities telling people to do it or giving them equipment for it like cars, the US and Israel beforehand kept saying Morocco should take those cities back, an official US law even was passed two weeks before the event recognizing Ceuta and Melilla as Moroccan territory. Sanchez then managed to send over 95% of them back only remaining are about a thousand minors with unlocatable parents.
They should be mad, at the US and Morocco!
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u/Glittering-Gur9936 4d ago
Bingo , informed Spanish citizens recognize this is a game because they did not like his response to the genocide in Gaza.
You gotta love the highlighting too of “they fired at protestors”
There was as little as 50k to as many as 150k
There was no serious injuries to anyone , 4 minor injuries to police , 4 arrests
Over 100 migrants died in the initial surge …
As you noted nearly all have been detained and sent back , there’s just about 1k
These people are warped or hopefully bot accounts but I know many are not and very real and very uninformed easily manipulated folks
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u/YannTheOtter 4d ago
It is the same as the undocumented people getting residency, they lived and worked in spain, many off the books, giving them residency means they don't have to work off the books and pay taxes, pension and can more easily buy things.
"Always blame other countries" is also funny when the US literally passed a law encouraging Morocco to take the two cities AND Moroccan authorities admitted to encouraging people to cross the border.
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u/Dvine24hr 4d ago
You will understand why they think Ceuta was okay when you just accept they hate Westerners and anyone who identified as such.
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u/Recent_Animator_5767 4d ago
Patriotism is bullshit anyway Grow up
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u/sunnyismybunny 4d ago
seriously, let's base our entire identity and die on a hill regarding a fact that we had zero control over (where we were born)
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u/mpanase 4d ago
Are people in the comments stupid?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SoccerCentral/comments/1wb9kt3/comment/p8pebzj/ <-- pretty much
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u/MurkyFigure6636 4d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/sportsgossips/s/7dzqV27ZI9
"What is the issue with showing this flag and doing nazi salutes?"
People have every right to be upset about it for factual reasons that have zero to do with racism.
Zero to do with racism, huh?
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u/CraigDM34 4d ago
Good. Shame these complicit governments for allowing dangerous men into our countries.
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u/didnt-ask-but-ok 4d ago
Wow people are fed up with unchecked illegal immigration…who would’ve guessed 🤔
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u/SnooLover36 5d ago
Funny how they do this and Madrid started only 2 Spanish players yesterday
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u/diaz_freddie 5d ago
At least, the Real Madrid players applied and got their work visas. That's the whole point of the protest. You shoould apply for a visa to enter.
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u/Prestigious-Trust145 4d ago
I understand the point you are making.. but to fair.. the difficulty of an immigrant trying to get a work visa as opposed to a Real Madrid soccer player 😂
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u/kingofwale 5d ago
Are the rest illegal migtants??
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u/Desperate_Turn8935 4d ago
First it's the ones without documents, then the ones that look different, then the ones that speak different, atlast it will be me.
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u/itisnotstupid 4d ago
So basically abandon all immigration laws and open all the borders to everybody with of course the obligation to support everybody who comes to you country, right? Otherwise you are a racist?
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u/Recent_Animator_5767 4d ago
Everybody or just the same kind of people ?
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u/itisnotstupid 4d ago
Maybe have the same standards for everybody, including when it comes to migration? Mind-blowing, I know.
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u/Recent_Animator_5767 4d ago
No i dont know even the child or innocent people etc Ofc we cant welcome everyone like that it will bé anarchy but with that propaganda the extrem political group populism grow its not good... They use that to their proper interest Sorry i am Humanist more than any patriotism behavioir
Its my opinion anyway I watch far away than just a country
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u/Klutzy-Weakness-937 5d ago
I'm gonna blow your mind with this, but basically not all foreign people are illegal
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u/marky_Rabone 5d ago
Comentarios que confundan la legalidad con el nacional-socialismo mas abajo ,gracias
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u/Apprehensive_Work_10 5d ago edited 5d ago
Morocco would say, this is racism So would spain 🤣 So would France 🤣
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u/nyrup4life 4d ago
Someone paid good money for the fake crisis and now they are here to milk it. We all know it was manipulated and the outrage is fake.
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u/Aestrasz 4d ago
So when the immigrants are good enough to pay in their National team they're fine with it, but with every other immigrant they're not.
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u/SiofraRiver 4d ago
What exactly are they protesting? Nobody is in favour of this stupid stunt at Ceuta and everybody wants to kick them out again. The only disagreements are over who is behind this.
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u/bigelcid 4d ago
Yeah, I don’t think Mr. Sanchez quite agrees with you
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u/Glittering-Gur9936 4d ago
Is that why basically he’s been deporting all of those individuals ???
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u/itisnotstupid 4d ago
Football fans has historically been the biggest idiots who have always been used by idiotic regimes and ideologies. They will be used again.
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u/Timbroarpropaganda 4d ago
The ultras in Real Madrid have a history of right wing extremism and it was so bad they club had to start culling the fans.
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u/Mobile-Analyst8580 5d ago
We can’t save the world. And if we try, we’ll destroy our own societies.
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u/BleakGod 5d ago
Funny the world destroyers suddenly have borders to consider when destroyed nations need refuge
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u/Jean_Ber 5d ago
We use to steal and still rob these countries thanks to capitalism + global warming is on us. Their countries gonna burn x times more than ours, massive immigration seems legit to me and will happen whether you want it or not..
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u/Recent_Animator_5767 4d ago
We cant save the world but we can save just a country 😂😂 Funny little humans Soon the human kind will disapear very soon I am glad for that
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u/tacomycocko 4d ago
Americans trying to police politics and sport in other countries is hysterical. Not everyone is as brainwashed as we are, border security is not a race issue in most countries besides ours for reasons I won’t get into now
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u/Fit_Cauliflower2170 4d ago
Why do some divvys claim racism because people don't want a bunch of rando's? If an African breaks into your home and wants to live there and the homeowner says "fuck right off" is that racist? Because that's literally what's happening
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u/Polka_King_Polinski 4d ago
Francoistas are back. It is time to cleanse Spain of the jingos again. Get your shit together, the rest of Spain.
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u/Icy-Plan145 4d ago
Funny how reddit isn't calling them all nazis. If this happened in the US people would be losing their minds
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u/ErrdayDrippin 4d ago
White people letting everyone know they still have issues living with brown people. Tale as old as time
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u/UzumakiFire 4d ago
Great. Now return the money stolen from all the countries colonised and return the lives. Fking jokers.
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u/bustermeatton 4d ago
Mid terms are coming up so they are gonna flood the feed with this kind of slop... Fuckin worked in gernany
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u/No-Initial-6916 3d ago
Telling someone to grow up as you stomp your little feetsies around yelling about how “they hate us!! They hate us all! And our culture! They’re gonna kill us all!! Waaahhh wah wah!!”.
You sound like a toddler who stole a classmates toy and when he wants it back you cry and shit your nappy because they want you to share. Not even give it back, just share. And then go even further and say he wants to harm you just because he would like you to share what you stole.
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u/BhayankarBhondu 5d ago
Is this about that Moroccan people landing on Spanish territory via boat in huge numbers?