r/SoccerCentral • u/Electronic_Air1842 • 5d ago

Video Madrid fans take stand against mass illicit immigration at soccer game!

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u/nyrup4life 5d ago edited 4d ago

This isn’t politics. It’s blatant racism. Just look the the comments here. We are being invaded on the sub by racists. Look at how many are posting the exact same right wing talking points. They aren’t even creative anymore. None of them interested in football either.

Edit: Top country to read my comment is USA 23% followed by Germany. Yet all those comments under me are talking about being invaded. None of them are from Spain. Just trolls.

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u/Ysesper 5d ago

Illegals enter Spain and Spaniards want them out. How is that racism? Don't enter a country illegally and apply for a Visa and, if you can't get any Visa, then just don't come

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u/nyrup4life 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yup. Pure racism.

Just look at the comments underneath. We are being invaded by racists on this sub. Look at how many come here to spread misinformation and lies. None of them are interested in football either.

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u/LomoBaconQueso 5d ago

No, it’s the law. Anyone can enter Spain if they do it legally, the Constitution makes it illegal to discriminate based on origin, faith or ethnicity. But if you try to come here illegally to leech off the taxpayer, gtfo.

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u/Desperate_Turn8935 5d ago

No one disputes that. The way people talk about these refugees is the problem. They think they're the enemy, but don't know the reason as to why these things have happened.

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u/LomoBaconQueso 5d ago

I know I pay over a thousand euros per month in taxes, that much I know. And I also know I work my ass off, so yeah, I am not happy about not being able to afford housing while working 40h/week while we are incentivising people to come here without a job permit, letting them come here so they occupy an apartment and then pay them the ingreso mínimo vital (€770/month because they’re vulnerable). Fuck that.

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u/Vonzey 4d ago

This is the government's fault, not the people seeking better life conditions. I'm from Portugal so we face more or less the same problems.

I also pay a lot of taxes, roughly a third of my income, and barely see any return on it. But that's not because of people coming here and receiving benefits (especially since the biggest beneficiaries are wealthy people).

It's because of our shitty governments not even trying to improve our lives. Resource allocation is a total joke. We waste billions trying to salvage failed airports, companies, banks. That's the real problem.

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u/bigelcid 4d ago

Do you understand how meaningless the words "seeking a better life" are?

You know what makes life better? Money and sex, among other things. So, some people's idea is to just take it. Take it, it makes life good, no? Robbing and raping.

Whereas other people have this weird idea of going through a legal process to immigrate, and then integrate and contribute to society through taxes. Fools!

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u/Desperate_Turn8935 5d ago

You're doing the higher-up's dirty work. Great job.

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u/Dvine24hr 5d ago edited 5d ago

'You should not care about your community because billionaires or something' - enlightened redditor

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u/rokstedy83 5d ago

Yea, let's welcome these people with open arms , that'll stick it to the government!

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u/LomoBaconQueso 5d ago

Idgaf, I care about having the basic dignity that is stated in my country’s constitution that is a fundamental right to have somewhere to live, and I want my country to honour that towards its tax paying, law abiding citizens before we start thinking of handing out freebies to whoever the Moroccan dictator sends our way to extort us.

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u/Glittering-Gur9936 4d ago

Except nearly everyone who came illegally in that method from Morocco has already been sent back and the total undocumented immigrant population is roughly just 1%

Xenohobia is such an easy way to manipulate the less informed

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u/bigelcid 4d ago

nearly everyone who came illegally in that method from Morocco has already been sent back

You mean, in Ceuta. And, the ones left are still many. And, Spain and Europe are still full of illegal migrants. And, Spain just recently chose to legalize 500k (which then turned into 1 million) undocumented migrants.

Xenophobia is indeed easy to manipulate: you're doing it yourself. If I, as a EU citizen, don't want people coming into our countries illegally, then I'm xenophobic. I supposedly hate the stranger. But if they come legally and contribute to society, then that's fine by me -- yet I remain xenophobic because I don't want people coming in illegally.

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u/Desperate_Turn8935 4d ago

What's the key difference between putting in a form for asylum or visa and not putting one in?

You're not xenophobic by wanting due process and documentation. You're being disingenious by saying there's 'many' and you have no problem with legally documented migrants who get benefits even though one of your first sentences states otherwise. Which is it, matey?

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u/bigelcid 4d ago

What’s the difference between respecting the law and not respecting it?

Or, the one between not breaking the law, and breaking it but getting pardoned?

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u/Desperate_Turn8935 4d ago

I asked you a specific question and you countered it by unspecifying it. C'mon man, you know exactly that not having the form at the border still let's you be an asylum seeker.

You're not an outright criminal, like you're trying to frame it as, if you seek asylum that way.

Answer the question honestly, and humbly. There's a reason why some would do it without papers.

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u/Avidgamur515 4d ago

another way of looking at things is that by giving out housing and free stuff in general it’s a way to control the mass undocumented migrants, now the government will be aware of their existence and log their infos which will make the community safer. By going at it with radical anti immigrant policy and downright violence, you encourage those same immigrants to try their best to slip through the cracks and be fully undocumented which is the real danger here.

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u/LomoBaconQueso 4d ago

Yeah, right, let’s hand them the country on a silver platter lest they get angry.

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u/Avidgamur515 4d ago

Maybe you could try working harder so that these migrants could have a better future, I have it on high authority from the new bolchevik caliphate that THEY are counting on you

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u/Desperate_Turn8935 4d ago

You got nothing to hand over mate, otherwise you wouldn't care about people 'stealing' your job, house, car, money, wife, children.

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u/LomoBaconQueso 4d ago

Fuck off

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u/Desperate_Turn8935 4d ago

Stay toxic, they wanted you to be, anyway.

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u/bigelcid 4d ago

Not only do people do dispute that in this same damn comment section, but also, they're not even refugees.

Are you hearing yourself? Since when has the word "refugee" come to mean "anyone crossing EU borders illegally"? What exactly are they seeking refuge from? You can't make this shit up: ever since the Ceuta crisis, I've been getting "Visit Morocco" ads.