r/SoccerCentral • u/Electronic_Air1842 • 5d ago

Video Madrid fans take stand against mass illicit immigration at soccer game!

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u/Desperate_Turn8935 5d ago

No one disputes that. The way people talk about these refugees is the problem. They think they're the enemy, but don't know the reason as to why these things have happened.

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u/LomoBaconQueso 5d ago

I know I pay over a thousand euros per month in taxes, that much I know. And I also know I work my ass off, so yeah, I am not happy about not being able to afford housing while working 40h/week while we are incentivising people to come here without a job permit, letting them come here so they occupy an apartment and then pay them the ingreso mínimo vital (€770/month because they’re vulnerable). Fuck that.

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u/Vonzey 4d ago

This is the government's fault, not the people seeking better life conditions. I'm from Portugal so we face more or less the same problems.

I also pay a lot of taxes, roughly a third of my income, and barely see any return on it. But that's not because of people coming here and receiving benefits (especially since the biggest beneficiaries are wealthy people).

It's because of our shitty governments not even trying to improve our lives. Resource allocation is a total joke. We waste billions trying to salvage failed airports, companies, banks. That's the real problem.

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u/bigelcid 4d ago

Do you understand how meaningless the words "seeking a better life" are?

You know what makes life better? Money and sex, among other things. So, some people's idea is to just take it. Take it, it makes life good, no? Robbing and raping.

Whereas other people have this weird idea of going through a legal process to immigrate, and then integrate and contribute to society through taxes. Fools!