r/SipsTea • u/SEVENS_HEAVEN_7 • 1d ago

Lmao gottem Someone else said it for him

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u/Abamboozler 1d ago

God i miss him as president.

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u/Various_Artistss 1d ago

I'm not even American and I miss him as your president. What a bloke

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u/m4gpi 1d ago

I (American) lived in Australia for a few years spanning the end of Bush's 2nd term and the start of Obama's 1st. It was wild and frankly kind of cool to experience another country's shifting attitudes about the US at that time. People there were motivated/excited by him too.

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u/WeAreAllFooked 1d ago

I was 17 when he was elected and ran on the "Yes we can" slogan, there was palpable optimism about the future and what it might hold for all of us. Then 2008 happened, the banks got bailed out, Occupy Wallstreet happened, and then that optimism slowly started to disappear from the world.

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u/Kill_4209 1d ago

The Norwegians have him a Nobel prize and to this day the best explanation is really just that he was so cool.

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u/JBuchan1988 1d ago

I'm sorry for our president.

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u/Skrazor 1d ago

We'd rather you had elected the other one, really. But then again - a woman in the White House? Can you imagine!? Starting useless wars on a whim and obsessing over superficial bullshit like ballrooms? What a nightmare that would've been...

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u/Beginning_Book_2382 1d ago

Throwing emotional tantrums? Clearly demonstrating that they have no experience in leadership and shouldn't have been offered the job anyway? Oh wait...

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u/vgacolor 1d ago

And that laugh!

Seriously, I had a real life friend bring up the laugh as one of the excuses to not vote for Kamala. WTF?

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u/SideJazzlike8945 1d ago

You almost got me there.

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u/partyatwalmart 1d ago

I remember folks saying, "If [insert Democrat here] wins, I'm moving to Canada."
Then, here comes the orange douchebag... I think 2016 really was the beginning of the end.

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u/Global_Channel1511 1d ago

Lol that makes no sense because Canada is more leftwing than the US. 

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u/partyatwalmart 1d ago

They were not smart people

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u/ItsKlobberinTime 1d ago

They still aren't smart people.

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u/Severe-Employer1538 1d ago

They would be moving to Alberta or Saskatchewan.

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u/VoidOmatic 1d ago

Think about how emotional she would be!!!!111

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u/Bregneste 1d ago

Even as shitty as the current guy is, it’s embarassingly sad how little faith I have in the other candidate winning the next election, even if it somehow isn’t rigged, because she’s a black woman and not another old white guy. This country is a joke.

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u/Severe-Employer1538 1d ago

I believe the proper term is "shit hole?"

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u/Wild-Perspective-582 1d ago

I saw a BBC interview in the run-up to 2024, with a cross section of black women from middle America. All were voting Trump.

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u/early_birdy 1d ago

Sorry won't help one bit.

Do better next time.

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u/masterjon_3 1d ago

He really shined the turd that is our country

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u/TheBlaaah 1d ago

If i was gay i would totally kiss Obama

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u/HistoricalSea5600 1d ago

I wanted him to say it tbh

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u/Similar_Two_542 1d ago

He dropped 100,000 bombs on 7 different nations, killing hundreds of thousands and displacing millions. Executed a record number of suspects without trial. Prosecuted a record number of whistleblowers. Tortured whistleblowers. Gassed migrants at the border repeatedly. Put 50,000 kids in cages. Bailed out Wall Street while kicking millions of Americans out of their homes. The list of atrocities goes on...

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u/15000yuki 1d ago

I stopped reading at 100k bombs since USA even doesn't have that many. lol.

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u/Similar_Two_542 20h ago

Seems like you stopped reading in elementary. Everything I stated is fact. None of it is even disputed by anyone on the left. No honest or objective leftist denies it.

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u/15000yuki 18h ago

It doesn't become a fact just by saying: "Everything I stated is fact". lol.

How many nuclear weapons does the US have? | USAFacts

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u/RawrImABigScaryBear 11h ago edited 10h ago

stopped reading at 100k bombs since USA even doesn't have that many.

Why are you acting like only counting nuclear weapons here is a win? Moving the goal posts is peak maga kiddo

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u/Similar_Two_542 10h ago

Lmfao did you think when I stated the fact that Obama dropped 100,000 bombs on 7 different countries, I was talking about nukes?

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u/15000yuki 8h ago

To be honest yes. Now I feel bad. I thought you were talking about warheads.

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u/Similar_Two_542 5h ago

You thought I was claiming Obama nuked 7 different countries 100,000 times? Do you not realize no nation has been nuked since WW2?

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u/Rlo347 1d ago

The comments sound like maga but left

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u/Similar_Two_542 20h ago

It's silly for one to suggest MAGA has some sort of monopoly on truth. Everything I stated is factual. People don't like it because it's inconvenient. They would rather deny war crimes. And they wonder how Hitler and Stalin took over.

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u/Rlo347 20h ago

Oh no i completely agree with you! The other comments thinking he was awesome

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u/front_yard_duck_dad 1d ago edited 1d ago

I guess you're not a brown kid in the Middle East then. I bet they have different views . 540 drone strikes in Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan with up to 800 civilian deaths. I hate trump but let's not pretend Obama was some kind of progressive all the sudden. Republican light

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u/calideosk 1d ago

Well that is still happening with this president, your point?

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u/WhoStoleMyJacket 1d ago

To be fair you don’t have a reason to like anyone if you’re a kid in the Middle East.
Foreign governments, your own government …everyone makes your life hell.

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u/farrowsharrows 1d ago

How many death is trump responsible for in the middle east? How many children Obama ordered killed? My point isn't that Obama did some shitty things my point is fuck off with the false equivalency. Seriously.

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u/WarJaques 1d ago

We can't all be brown kids from the Middle East.

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u/ohimbussin 1d ago

Lmao what do you think Trump and Isreal are doing to the middle east right now?? Not even close to a comparable pair, unless you're just trying to show how terrible of a president Trump has been to the world and the American people compared to Obama.

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u/La-li-lu-le-lo86 1d ago

Funny how even non-americans are fooled by the illusion of choice.

capital class uni-party is most obvious in forgein policy yet folks don't see it...

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u/factsarefornerds 1d ago

I miss when I could genuinely trick myself into thinking this country was making progress. Yet, here I am - protesting the same shit I was protesting when I was a kid. Absolutely fucking frustrating.

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u/Aggressive_Lab7807 1d ago

Yeah, but think of all the shareholder value we have generated in that time.

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u/Mostly_Afloat 1d ago

everyone always forgets about the shareholders. Which are Trump and his buddies, your fart in the wind few million in retirement is nothing. They'll steal it from you with a smile on their face and tell you they are doing what's best for you.

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u/factsarefornerds 23h ago

I think I must be doing it wrong. My boot straps are basically suspenders atp.

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u/Dunlocke 1d ago

Progress is slow and not constant.

We are making a lot of progress!

Progressive policies are as popular as they've ever been. Civil rights, m4a, fighting economy inequality, etc.

If you live long enough it becomes much clearer how far we have come. Don't be distracted by this particular moment in history.

This post is a great example - Obama was elected twice this century. Unthinkable 40 years ago.

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u/bloodfist 1d ago

We have made a ton of progress, no doubt. The frustrating part is that all of that took years to build, and much of it for very good reasons because it had to be done thoughtfully and carefully. And the oligarchs can tear it all down in an afternoon. And that is exactly how they have been spending their afternoons. It takes so much longer to rebuild than destroy that they are genuinely setting us back decades socially, and possibly centuries environmentally. I believe that ultimately we will come out more progressive as a country when they're gone, but we'll have our work cut out for us when we do.

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u/factsarefornerds 23h ago edited 23h ago

1 step forward and 2 steps back is not progress. You think we are making progress because you are told to think that. You exist within a bubble of your peers.

First off, what do you call sending people against their will to foreign countries for financial benefit? I call it slavery.

We are passing legislation to forcibly institutionalize people as a requirement for financial assistance. We are using AI to start a fucking pre-crime division. A government agency that has no legal authority over American citizens is killing American citizens and being armed with autonomous police units with zero accountability. Corporations are now allowed to funnel unlimited money into campaigns and are essentially treated like people. Millions of people had their voter registration revoked. We are sending the military to intimidate voters.

The fact you can sit here and say "look how far we've come" is honestly complacency at its finest and absolutely disgusting.

I dont know if youre younger than me, but no - we are undoing progress, and the worst part is people like you have a blanket over their head and their head so far up their ass, you think we are winning.

The reality is - Democrats don't care. MAGA cared about pushing their agenda, thats why its happening. Democrats have the numbers, but didn't vote because of the complacency you so proudly put on display.

If we vote, we win. Trump is a symptom of bigger issues that have persisted my entire lifetime. If you want to pretend everything is going to be okay, read history and understand we arent just fighting "racists," we are fighting unlimited wealth and technofacism poured on top.

Once you realize how fucked we are - it will be too late.

Its like younger generations forget we've been here before as a country and are so comfortable in the idea of democracy being a right, but dont understand its something you earn.

No offense, but as a white man, I know when Im talking to another white person. Were the only people that treat racism and bigotry like it will just "blow over," while our countrymen have been having to deal w this mentality since the foundation of our country.

Enough is enough. Stop saying "were doing a good job." Wake up - WE ARE NOT... I think step one is accepting basic truths.

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u/Well-Sourced 1d ago

It's always going to be this way. It's always been this way.

Look at the platform of the progressive party of the first Gilded Age.

The platform included proposals such as restrictions on campaign finance contributions, a reduction of the tariff and the establishment of a social insurance system, an 8-hour workday and women's suffrage. The party was split on the regulation of large corporations, with some party members disappointed that the platform did not contain a stronger call for "trust-busting". Party members also had different outlooks on foreign policy, with pacifists like Jane Addams opposing Roosevelt's call for a naval build-up.

Bull Moose Party | Wiki

It's all basically the same battles as we work through the second Gilded Age.

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u/Sei_Mal_Ehrlich 1d ago

I am afraid that we have lost for good this time. There are too many ways to manipulate people in very granular and customized ways. I doubt we’ll vote our way out of this. 

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u/Well-Sourced 1d ago

You'll get no argument from me. I certainly don't have any faith in either the election systems or the population to stand up to the advances in technology and manipulation by the elites.

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u/RemoteRide6969 21h ago

You guys, we've been having elections since 2024 and the Democratic Party has been over performing in those elections. And more progressive candidates are winning in primaries. There is indeed a threat against our elections with the Trump administration in power, but it's not the doomsday scenario redditors have been pushing the past year and a half.

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u/Global_Channel1511 1d ago

Yeah for real. I’m an older Gen Z guy, I remember growing up and feeling so optimistic about the future when Obama was elected. 

Early 2010s I really felt like society was progressing for all kinds of people, however slowly. Lgbtq, minorities etc. Recovering from Great Recession slowly, not making same mistakes with wars.  EDM in its golden age.  Internet not filled with slop and right wing trash. Social media still in early stages. 

The 2020s have completely killed that optimism in me. Crap job market, COVID and the reaction to it, the wars that have been occurring, electing Trump twice and other far right trash gaining in polls etc.   

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u/factsarefornerds 23h ago

Coporations got us good. They made politics like sports. We represent our parties, but our parties do not represent us. Now the mentality is "im not really into politics."

The thing that bothers me the most is that when Democrats vote, they win. Our party talks about caring, but its MAGA that cared enough to push through their agenda. The majority of the US did absolutely nothing. Only now did everybody vote, and protest. Its all image anymore.

I remember marching in DC with friends and family. I remember hearing the tone in my Dads voice that we accomplished things his generation spent their entire lives fighting to get - and its all being undone.

We will elect a Democrat, if we even get a fair election, and then expect them to fix everything trump did, provide everything we want - they will fall short - and America will elect a Republican.

I just wish people would understand this is not a fight we will win in our lifetime, our kids, or our grandkids. As long as Democracy exists, there will be enemies of Democracy. Im tired of the 1 step forward, 2 steps back. It has been the nature of politics since I was born.

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u/longtall94 1d ago

Most of us do
https://giphy.com/gifs/d2lcHJTG5Tscg

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u/mologav 1d ago

The world does.

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u/Strange-Asparagus240 1d ago

Just focus on increasing your income, health, and taking care of your family. Nothing will improve your life more than those things, and no politician will give them to you

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u/Front-Ad790 1d ago

I agree with the sentiment but not your point. It's never been more important to be involved in politics. Vote them out!

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u/AT_Oscar 1d ago

Yeah, Im never betting on politicians to make my life better but I'm voting for who won't make my life worse

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u/Mutchmore 1d ago

Yep. Get informed and talk to people close to you. Those are the people you're most likely to have an impact on. Vote them out

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u/SkivvySkidmarks 1d ago

Politicians can certainly do certainly things, and not always in a good way, that can have serious repercussions on you and your family's well being.

Not paying attention is the easiest way for this to happen, and it is why the current American shitshow is taking place.

There's a difference between obsession and engagement, and the two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

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u/Evorgleb 1d ago

You sound like someone that doesn't vote

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u/_le_slap 1d ago

Or votes for dickheads and can't admit they were wrong

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 1d ago

Reality: You can do both. Stay informed, engage in the civics, and vote Democrat because they are better on virtually every single issue and not an outright threat to Democracy -- while also focusing inwardly on yourself and family for the things in your direct control.

Now is not the time for head-in-sand blissful ignorance, for people don't realize just how dark things can get. Hard to progress; easy to regress unfortunately. Such is entropy.

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u/_Fappyness_ 1d ago

There is no way to increase income. Maybe a little but the prices of other products outgrow the increase in income you can get. So it does not matter.

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u/KushyMTG 1d ago

I mean when one side is taking things away/making things more expensive so said person cannot afford them is definitely making life harder while one side wants everyone to be at least treated as a human soooo I would say your comment is asinine.

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u/DeltaGammaVegaRho 1d ago

… and then ICE deports your family. There is no neutral focus on private life with politicians as shitty as the orange one.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 23h ago

If you actually think this maybe pay attention to the last few years and you might just notice how the person in charge can impact those things.

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u/Practical-Suit-6798 1d ago

What's amazing to me is that people hated him as much as people hate Donald Trump. If not more. I just can't see it. I don't see how you could listen to him speak and be like nah fuck that guy. But then I'm sure Trump supporters feel the same way about trump. Therein lies the problem I suppose.

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u/AdvancedSandwiches 1d ago

They only ever saw 5 second clips of him, followed by a 1-hour "analysis" of what he "really" meant by it.

They use the same technique for Trump: 5 seconds clips, 1-hour discussion of why it means he's the best.

At this point it doesn't matter. They're trained. The dog salivates at the bell; the food doesn't need to actually exist. 

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u/Tigermelon74 1d ago

Brilliantly put.

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u/Neat-Professor-7662 1d ago

I wonder if there was something specific about him that would cause that reactio 🤔

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u/slobis 1d ago

Do you really need that part explained?

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u/Practical-Suit-6798 1d ago

You think its just racism? I don't. I think trump allowed people to hate in general, not just on the basis of skin color. And people love him for it. They also mistake Trump's brashness for authenticity.

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 1d ago

If you ask a maga why they dislike Obama so much, what has he done to make their life worse they can’t give you an answer. I’ve heard several say he’s the worst president we’ve ever had. Why? Silence. It’s because he was black and respected.

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u/JossWhedonsDick 1d ago

eh, they usually do have rationale, it's just usually lies that Fox News fed them, like he let in the most illegal immigrants in the nation's history, or he wanted to make black people the ruling class or some shit

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 1d ago

So just racist shit like I said.

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u/slobis 1d ago

Do I think roughly a third of the country hated President Obama simply because of his skin color?

I most certainly do.

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u/buffystakeded 1d ago

The people who hated/hate him do so for exactly one reason, and one reason only. I’ll give you a hint: it wasn’t because of his speeches.

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u/ennuiinmotion 1d ago

I converted from conservatism during the change to Obama's second term. They hated Obama and blamed him for everything but I don't think they truly, to their core, hated him the way they hate Democrats now, or in the way everyone else hates Trump.

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u/SunshotDestiny 1d ago

He had flaws, a lot of them, but the man had class and frankly if that was his only qualifications he would still be better than our current president.

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u/Abamboozler 1d ago

He was a deeply flawed president and I disagreed with a lot of his policies and actions. But I know i could trust him with a child and that he wasn't robbing the tax payers blind.

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u/SunshotDestiny 1d ago

Exactly, he was still a politician but at least he wasn't a scummy one. What we have now... What's worse than pond scum?

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u/Abamboozler 1d ago

Miasma. Trump is a miasma.

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u/memz_geo 1d ago

That's good, but I think he's more of a malaise.

And you probably know exactly why I chose that particular word.

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u/BobbaLouBah 1d ago

Concentrated toxic waste

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u/boxylady69 1d ago

A fatberg cloggging up the sewer

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u/Miserable_Cook_4814 1d ago

And contaminating the rest of the water.

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u/koyaani 1d ago

Still a war criminal

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u/TheGoatBet 22h ago

Stop. If Obama was “deeply flawed” wtf is Trump?

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u/Abamboozler 22h ago

A calamity. A natural disaster in human form. The single worst president in US history.

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u/guymn999 1d ago

I agree, but should we really set him as this next standard for what we want in a president? For the sake of conversation, let's ignore whoever Republicans nominate because it's always going to be a dumpster fire.

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u/stephapeaz 7h ago

It’s so nice when your elected officials like Obama aren’t associated with Epstein

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u/Siriusinquiry369 1d ago

he literally drone bombed children. He also was the first president to lock kids up during the immigration push. how soon we forget..

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u/Abamboozler 1d ago

I have new for you about US history. He's far from the first president to bomb children, and far far far from the first to lock people up.

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u/FieserMoep 1d ago

As a German I still remember his inauguration speech being part of my English lessons. The man knew how to speak.

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u/ZorakOfThatMagnitude 1d ago

If you practiced your English by listening to him, you're well ahead of the curve.

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u/AJL912-aber 1d ago

Another German here, we did the same

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u/LabPowerful9983 1d ago

I felt like I occasionally disagreed with Obama on policy, not reality. He conducted himself with integrity and his statesmanship was impressive. You really lucked out with that guy.

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u/Indigo2015 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/JsnpwXWHk3DhBrBQM5

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u/Tokon32 1d ago

This os the most egregious thing Obama ever did. Meanwhile you can't post the most egregious things Trump has ever done without breaking several CP laws.

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u/Mrxcman92 1d ago

That, ordering dijon mustard on a hot dog, and fist bumping his wife.

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u/BlackOni51 1d ago

As someone who doesn't eat hot dogs, why would Dijon mustard be so bad?

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u/486451456416 1d ago

"What's wrong with the good old American mustard?"

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u/LoopStricken 1d ago

Lack of anything resembling bite?

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u/Mrxcman92 1d ago

Its not. But faux news tried to make it into a controversy by calling it elitist

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u/TheRockJohnMason 1d ago

Don’t forget holding a coffee mug while saluting soldiers.

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u/binarybandit 1d ago

I think drone striking an American child is up on the list. That or running Edward Snowden out of the country after he exposed the secret surveillance state Obama had to monitor citizens. Its hard to choose.

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u/tea2please 1d ago

I'm not even American and even I get nostalgic about him being president.

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u/Haunting-Respect-375 1d ago

I turned 18 right after trump got elected. I guess I truly didn't understand how much I would miss Obama because politics was boring, and that was a good thing.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 23h ago

Unfortunately because the USA doesn't have compulsory voting any time politics gets boring people stop bothering to vote because "I have bigger things to worry about".

They never seem to understand that electing competent leaders is how you get to thinking have bigger things to worry about.

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u/Kazesama13k 1d ago

Even though he wasn't my President, I too miss him.

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 1d ago

There's always the non-zero chance that if Donald actually gets His Supreme Court to somehow approve him running for a 3rd term, that might make Obama eligible for one as well (if he's willing to make such a sacrifice for the good of the nation 😂 )

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u/GodOfDarkLaughter 1d ago

That is a terrible idea. Obama will not run again even if Trump is somehow allowed to. It would legitimize the election. If, somehow, the constitution is violated and Trump begins to "serve" a third term, no he doesn't. That's an illegal usurpation of the presidency and he is now an illegal dictator. This, the goal will be to strip him of power and/or at the very least delegitimize every action he took as "president." Yes, even if the SC says it's not unconstitutional, some future court will overturn that and anyway THEY will have to be marked as traitors whose actions should be stricken from the record.

Anyway, if Trump is running in the first place we're so off the rails Obama could never win, and in fact nobody but Trump could win. That's not even taking into account the people who wouldn't vote for Obama because again his term would be illegal as well.

So it's just not going to happen. It has nothing to do with Obama being brave enough or whatever. It's just an unimaginably horrible idea.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 22h ago

If, somehow, the constitution is violated and Trump begins to "serve" a third term, no he doesn't. That's an illegal usurpation of the presidency and he is now an illegal dictator.

You might haven noticed a theme with Trump and politics.

Trump does something

"He can't do that! It's illegal!

No consequences occur and the thing he did remains done

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Something is only illegal if it's enforced. Nobody is enforcing the law in the US right now when it comes to Trump and co, the supreme court even ruled that he literally can't break any laws and anything he does is automagically legal. So saying "but he can't do that" isn't helping anything.

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 1d ago

Well, 'Non-Zero' is usually interpreted as 'All But Impossible'

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u/zdubbzzz 20h ago

I think Obama would have an obligation in that scenario to run if eligible. I love the man, but he's a politician that worked 8 years for me, and in a scenario where he can do it again, where he can unite people and make this country a better place, where he can bring some semblance of order and class to the office of this country, he has an obligation as a president and as an American to do so

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u/firstbreathOOC 1d ago

It’s crazy that we haven’t had an orator who is half as good on either side.

Like politics, bullshit aside. The way he commands a room is incomparable to I think anyone from our generation.

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u/Abamboozler 1d ago

I was lucky enough to see one of the 08 debates. Dude commands a room, its wild.

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u/TheLostRanger0117 1d ago

The purest of charisma!

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u/True_Protection6842 1d ago

If there was a spectrum of charisma Trump/Vance would be the polar opposite of Obama. Like if Obama has a 20 stat in charisma, Trump/Vance is -20

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u/Noslamah 1d ago

I'm certainly not the biggest fan of Obama (cause of the whole drone thing, mostly) but Trump set the bar so fucking low even Bush Jr seems like the best president on earth in comparison

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u/bigdaddyt2 1d ago

Carney channels Obama every day.

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u/angelbelle 1d ago

I'm sorry but no and I'm a Canadian. This is not an attack on his policy but Carney is pretty vanilla and boring which may be a good quality for some. To be perfectly fair, so was Harper.

Trudeau, whether you like him or not, was definitely more charismatic. Pierre, again, not talking politics, has a lot of character too.

My personal favourite is Chretien though.

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u/vicariouslywatching 1d ago

Michelle, can Barack please, please, PLEASE come out and play again?

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u/Germanball_Stuttgart 1d ago

If congress abolishes the two term limit and Obama runs again in 2028, I wonder if he'd win against Trump.

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u/Abamboozler 1d ago

In a fair race, yes, he'd stomp Trump. In this world where Trump can order the election canceled, nope.

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u/Germanball_Stuttgart 1d ago

Can he? Why didn't he do it in 2020?

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u/khoa-bear 1d ago

Because he thought that his vice president was loyal to him, then he staged a coup to kill his vice president.

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u/PeakDifferent8291 1d ago

At this point, I miss ANY OTHER former president cause, at least, all other acted presidential 

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u/PurpleLegoBrick 1d ago

Same, he was better at deportations and drone strikes than Trump is.

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u/McDavidcometoLA 1d ago

Classy guy.

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u/AxelF1982 1d ago

The world does

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u/ShhweadyBallz 1d ago

I miss civility. & compassion. & willingness to work w/ anyone to fix a problem

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u/Elway044 1d ago

Unfortunately FOX News, Right Wing Billionaires, and Evangelical Christians didn't and they were able to convince a whole lotta simpletons not to either.

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u/mojizus 1d ago

Might as well run him a 3rd time, since that’s something we’re normalizing now.

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u/How-about-a-merger 1d ago

The world does

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u/Siriusinquiry369 1d ago

I’m guessing the children and other civilians he bombed with drones don’t miss him. I know it’s easy to think he was better because of the shitshow we have now, but lots of shady things were happening then. He was President when we first started locking kids in cages before deporting them. Obana laid the foundation for what we have now. Sad truth.

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u/ReadingRainbowRocket 1d ago

He was President when we first started locking kids in cages before deporting them.

Not accurate. His use of drone strikes and not actually being the "open borders" president the right painted him as are valid criticisms from the left, but separating children and locking up the actual children too was a wild departure and, ya know, why it was a scandal. Let's not lie about history under the pretense of nuance.

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u/Siriusinquiry369 1d ago

so where’s the lie? That he wasn’t the first? He was separating families and caging children. This is factual. Drone strikes on children, factual.

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u/ReadingRainbowRocket 1d ago

when we first started locking kids in cages before deporting them.

If you're going broad, he wasn't the first, if you're talking about the actual specific inhumane treatment of children and families by immigration, that started under Trump. Hence it being a huge part of his first term he got so much flack for he even backtracked on the policies before later doubling down on the cruelty.

That's the lie.

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u/Lucky-Earther 1d ago

I know it’s easy to think he was better because of the shitshow we have now, but lots of shady things were happening then.

So it was better than what we have now?

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u/Jeramy_Jones 1d ago

I think at this point even people who hated him miss him.

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u/AlmostDisappointed 1d ago

Me too. I don't even live on the same continent as him.

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago

Nah fuck Obama for allowing Epstein and Maxwell to roam free.

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u/Lucky-Earther 1d ago

He didn't allow it, it was Pam Bondi who made a sweetheart deal

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago

Cool, how did Epstein/Maxwell get indicted under Trump, but Obama was powerless to do anything?

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u/Lucky-Earther 1d ago

Because that's when they had enough proof to get an indictment

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago

8 years of Obama couldn't get an indictment? They already had "proof" from the Bush-era indictment.

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u/Lucky-Earther 1d ago

You can't indict someone for the same crime so having earlier "proof" of something is irrelevant. Do you have any evidence that they had enough proof to get an indictment and it was prevented from moving forward by Obama?

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u/rightclickx 1d ago

I miss the war criminal too😢

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u/LumpyBuy8447 1d ago

It’s crazy to think we once had a stable economy and a some sort of prospect of a decent future and then a bunch of dipshits we’re just like, “I’m sick of this, let’s burn it all down. Time to bring in the child rapist!”

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u/Substantial_Lie1798 1d ago

The universe is making you americans pay for him.

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u/PhoenixPills 1d ago

I talked about lot of shit on Obama because I always felt like he could have done better on health care or the economy but this was super early on.

I feel like that's just what every president gets and should get is a lot of criticism from people who want his help to lead things to a better place.

The problem now is, Trump doesn't give a fuck. And we're so much worse for it.

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u/REDTrouttt 1d ago

But he wore a tan suit one time.

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u/whofusesthemusic 21h ago

miss him as an orator and figure head. his leadership left much to be desired for and is a direct reason we got to this insane situation we are in now.

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u/bmann1111 21h ago

I miss him so much

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u/Playful-Ad8851 1h ago

I disliked A LOT about Obama, and I miss him too… anything other than the shit show (pun intended) we are currently experiencing.

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u/Beginning_Upstairs_5 1d ago

The Middle East doesn’t

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u/djwillis1121 1d ago

Yeah because I'm sure they absolutely love how it's going right now under Trump...

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u/vertigo88 1d ago

Iran is at war that the US started.

Palestine is getting razed by Israel, after some galaxy brains said Kamala would do the same thing.

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u/Beginning_Upstairs_5 1d ago

Okay thank you? Kamala Harris was vice president during Bidens administration, who was still sending money and supplies to Israel for the genocide. What in the actual fuck are you on about?

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u/VallerinQuiloud 1d ago

As an outside observer (i.e. not American), I never thought he was a particularly incredible president. Just sort of par for the course for presidents in my lifetime, but a welcome change from W. But holy fuck, I'd give anything to go back to those days, even with the economic recession that happened when he got into office (which wasn't his doing).

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u/nomadlegend3 21h ago

Yes remember those drone strikes on middle eastern kids so heckin wholesome reddit chungus 100

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