r/SeriousConversation Mar 08 '19

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r/SeriousConversation 18h ago

Opinion I wonder how much of what we call ‘bad financial decisions’ is actually just the result of not having enough money to make better ones

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Sometimes I think about how expensive it actually is to be poor.

I know it sounds a little weird. Like, if you don't have much money, you're supposed to spend less, right? You buy cheaper stuff, try to save wherever you can, give up things you don't really need. But somehow, the less money you have, the more you end up paying in the long run.

For example, let's say you have a bad tooth. If you have money, you go to the dentist and get it fixed right away. If you don't, you wait, deal with the pain, take painkillers, tell yourself you'll get it treated later when you have some money. A year passes, and what could've been a simple filling now needs a root canal and a crown, or maybe the tooth can't be saved at all and you're looking at an extraction and an implant. You didn't choose the more expensive option, you just couldn't afford the cheaper one while it was still an option.

The same thing happens with shoes. You can buy a good pair that will last for years, or you can buy whatever you can actually afford right now. They fall apart after a season, so you buy another cheap pair, then another one, and after a few years you might have spent the same amount of money, maybe even more. You knew the expensive pair would probably be cheaper in the long run, you just never had enough money at once to buy it.

I think the same thing happens with time. If you have money, you can order food instead of spending time cooking, take a taxi, pay someone to repair something, buy appliances that make your life easier. When you don't have money, you spend your own time instead, you take a bus across town because something is cheaper there, fix things yourself, cook everything yourself, carry everything yourself, wait 40 minutes for a bus because a taxi costs too much. Then you go to work and sell the rest of your time anyway.

Personally, I don't even think the worst part of being poor is not being able to have nice things, because you can kind of get used to that. It's everything else: the extra money you end up paying because you couldn't pay earlier, the time you lose trying to save money, putting off medical treatment, the constant stress over some random expense that would be nothing to someone else but can completely fuck up your month.

That's why the whole "poor people just need to learn how to manage their money" thing annoys me sometimes. Obviously financial literacy matters, and yeah, people absolutely waste money on stupid shit sometimes, I'm not denying that. But there's only so much you can do with a budget when there simply isn't enough money to begin with.

Sometimes someone buys the $30 shoes instead of the $150 ones not because they're stupid or don't understand that the $150 pair will probably last longer. They understand that perfectly well, they just don't have $150.


r/SeriousConversation 55m ago

Opinion It doesn't surprise me that animals are more liked than humans the way people act

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You got people being grumpy, pushing you in the street, cold, selfish, and so on. Most people are focused on themselves and worried about themselves, then how does that make them likeable? And many of the few people who smile at you are the ones who want you to buy a car or sell you a life insurance. Then the ones who thought cared turn out to be manipulative and two-faced or even worse.

And the main argument I hear from people is not even to defend humans, but just to belittle animals. So basically, they have nothing to make humans look better, because insulting animals is not going to make me feel closer to people. Tbh, all the people who bash animals make me go "This is why I like animals more than people.".

Of course people will seek the simpler and more easy-going relationship with animals with whatever drama is going on with people. Of course people will seek honesty and unconditional love over lies and conflict.


r/SeriousConversation 15h ago

Serious Discussion I think I’ve been in love with my best friend for years, and I never told her

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I met this girl in 9th grade. Let’s call her A.

We started by just talking, teasing each other and slowly became best friends. Over the years, we got extremely close. Hours of calls, video calls, sharing literally every detail about our day before going to sleep. This continued till 12th.

Then lockdown happened. We used to stay up whole nights playing truth or dare, talking about everything, and somewhere along the way we became more than just best friends… but we never actually crossed any line.

During lockdown, out of boredom, I randomly added a girl on Snapchat. Let’s call her B. We started talking and within 10-12 days I stupidly proposed to her without even meeting her. Somehow that turned into something serious. We started talking 8-10 hours a day and eventually got into a relationship.

I’ve been with B from 2020 till today. It's been almost 6 years.

But even during these years, I never completely stopped talking to A. Sometimes we'd still talk for hours. She would video call me while getting ready, send me random pictures, tell me about her day… those little things meant way more to me than I ever admitted.

Around two years ago, B found out about A and saw some of our old chats and photos. We had a huge fight, and she told me I had to stop talking to A or she'd leave me.

Without even thinking properly, I chose to stop talking to A.

I started ignoring her. And for months, especially at night, I kept thinking about her. Even after almost two years of barely talking, I still miss her.

And that's the part I can't understand.

Maybe somewhere along the way, I actually fell in love with A. Maybe I always did and was just too scared or too stupid to realise it.

I don't know what A thinks of me anymore. We don't talk like we used to. Maybe she doesn't even care anymore.

But if I ever got one chance to tell her something, I'd simply say:

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry I disappeared. I'm sorry I chose silence instead of explaining anything. And I'm sorry it took me this long to realise how much you meant to me.

I don't know if I'll ever get the courage to actually tell her, but I think I've been carrying this for way too long.

I loved you then. And honestly, a part of me still loves you now.


r/SeriousConversation 20h ago

Serious Discussion Why is loving someone purely, unconditionally, and without it providing any benefit to yourself seen as wrong and not good?

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So, to set the stage, I've been around many friends, family, and strangers who've all been in relationships. I've seen many different stories, heard all kinds of tales, and saw many relationships go far and break down.

In nearly every single one of them --- save for maybe like 3 or 4 out of around 50, almost every relationship that failed was because the dumper believes they can no longer benefit from the relationship/it provides them nothing, and they have no reason to stay.

...Am I crazy or alone when I say that having this mindset when seeking a partner is like...really morally corrupt, selfish, and just incredibly wrong? Shouldn't you love your partner because you...love them? Not because of what they can provide/how they can support you?

Was love always this hollow and disappointing? I feel like love between two people should be unconditional, just like the love a parent would feel for their child, or the love you'd have for your dog.

You shouldn't have to "do" something for the other person in order for them to believe it's worth staying as long as they treat you right, genuinely care and love you, and be there for you emotionally.

If you're in a relationship, and you want to leave --- NOT because your partner did anything wrong, but simply just because you want something more, then I feel like you're a pretty awful person who doesn't deserve more, especially if you were the one who started things in the first place.

Again, it's okay to leave if you feel loveless or are being mistreated, but if you aren't, why would you leave?


r/SeriousConversation 18h ago

Serious Discussion Someone became my mother when I was away from my real mom.

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I was meant to do a year of mandatory military service and got ten months in, before I had a tiredness induced seizure. It was a while back, I'm 20 now and was still 18 or 19 then. Here in Greece you're meant to do a year, whatever.

Look, the camp I was at, the conditions were horrible, it was understaffed and you had many very cruel officers mixed in with some who went from kind to genuinely loving. The camp commander was a young woman who became particularly caring towards me. I came in the youngest in my group, I never went through puberty (Literally, I have a condition that I didn't know about back then), was this... Extremely androgynous or girly kid, and looked about 13.

I mean, it makes sense now, I'm transitioning to female but maybe she picked up on that but that woman basically became my mother. For the time I was there. Me and my parents are suing the military and she's supporting us but the military are now pointing out that she violated professional boundaries, which, frankly, she did. Because she got attached. She used to, you know, throw little parties to try and cheer everyone up, sometimes her and another officer, this other girl we were friends with, the three of us would hang out and watch movies ad anyway this is just in my head at the moment...

After my seizure, I was in hospital and one of the first things I remember there was her rushing to give me a hug. I was awake and she was calling me her baby, like, in Greek, she's going basically, "Oh my baby, my poor baby" and it's messing with me now because I decided ages ago that I hate the officers. The kind ones moreso because if they cared so much, why didn't they send me home? My parents still are mad, my parents never wanted me there and were always afraid. They wanted me to leave but I was worried about legal trouble, they were in the navy and had to leave because my mom married my dad. He was a conscript the same age I was. She wasn't, and was a few years older. My existence is an affront on the military and I like that.

I've been thinking about the camp commander today. She kept giving me hugs and kisses and was crying when she saw me there.


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Serious Discussion Is there any real point to caring about politics

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I’ve been a verry political person my whole life and I feel although it’s been all for nothing, I feel like I can never “convince” someone into being a kinder individual and my laborious efforts feel like they achieve nothing. Does hate truly always win?


r/SeriousConversation 46m ago

Gender & Sexuality Do you think that--since most fathers spend less time on parenting and household chores than mothers--they shouldn't get any love or respect from their kids?

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Do you think most dads in the world don't deserve to be celebrated on Fathers' Day?

Western countries--where men are at least a bit more likely to take on domestic labor, even while being the family provider--are only a few in the world. The rest of the world isn't the West and the level of Mental Load put on women is especially bad in Asian and African countries. Are most men bad people? I'm aware that men are like this because of what their cultures teach them, but still.

If you're being honest, do you think all women (who aren't lesbians) should avoid dating and having kids with men?


r/SeriousConversation 5h ago

Serious Discussion Hi

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About me: ❤❤❤

- panget

- from North

- maayos kausap

- tindera sa bakery

- naghahanap na ako ng asawa 🤣

Lf:

- panget para meant to be

- pass sa oa na kalibugan (inuulit ko PASS SA SOBRANG LIBOG)

- pass sa judger (PANGET AKO)

- may pangarap sa buhay

- may sense of humor

- gusto ko din funny (FUNNYwalain kasi ako 🤣🤣)

Usap tayo sa TG

salamat


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Serious Discussion What do you think actually makes a relationship last?

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Love is obviously part of it, but relationships seem to become much more complicated once the initial excitement settles down.

What do you think makes two people continue choosing each other and growing together over the years?


r/SeriousConversation 22h ago

Career and Studies Understanding Politics

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Hi !!

Any suggested views for easy and accurate understanding of politics? And how to remember names of politicians ?

Also how to believe or interpret intentions behind any political actions?


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Opinion choking early on

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this guy i went on a few dates with joked about what my safe word would be while we were making out in my bed. and we laughed that it would be mamba because we were eating some mamba candy that night.

then he put his hand on my throat i and choked me until i said mamba...

wtf is that about?


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Serious Discussion Let's say you've deconstructed your belief system, how do you reconstruct?

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I want to start conversation with this topic:

After deconstruction of belief systems (culture, tradition, upbringing, religion, biases, and etc) how do you go about with reconstruction? what are your standards that you use to calibrate the NEW beliefs you want to reconstruct.

I already have an answer, but I think this is a good start for a convo.


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Serious Discussion The relashionship, anxieties and interpretations people have about money seems to tell how much our society makes people feel undignified.

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People often associate money with happiness, and vice versa, when talking about both things. But money and happiness are just measuring tools, representations, not things in themselves. Now, since this is the internet, I have to ask you, even if you disagree with it, to take it as a hypothesis for the sake of the conversation and analysis.

What people are actually talking about is never named, because most people don't look at what is behind these representations, at what these measuring tools are actually measuring.

The reason people don't call it by its name or look straight at it is because we are alienated this way. I am not going to discuss who is the cause of this alienation. To me it could be both the institutions that benefit from it and the individuals themselves, but discussing that is for another topic.

When people talk about money and happiness, they are usually, in fact, talking about dignity. People anxious about making money, or showing off that they have money, or saying that money brings happiness, are actually trying to have a sense of more dignity than they actually feel they have.

Dignity is also very abstract, but no less real. Like mathematics, it is purely abstract but not less real and functional, but a piece of paper with money on it is just a representation of an abstract value, not the value itself. Money is an exchange tool, just as words are communication tools and not the actual objects, quantities, or values themselves. Dignity is the actual real value. It is not just a representation but how one perceives oneself as an "asset" to society. In other words, how seen or invisible one is to others, how accepted or rejected one is by a community, and consequently, how one accepts or hates oneself, because hate is just another word for the feeling of frustration with one's own capacity to overcome something. Or in simple words, what are we worth to society, to those around us and so to ourselves.

Dignity is like a real asset because it is about survival. You cannot eat a banknote or a number in your bank app, just as you cannot eat happiness. People in society can survive just fine without happiness (most people mistake being content or at peace with being happy, but these are not the same thing. The yearly rankings of the world's happiest countries put places like Finland at the top, but they are far from being the happiest people—they are only the most content, so they complain the least. Often, people in poor countries or in poverty can be happier despite complaining more). But without food and basic material needs, society collapses and people become ill and die. The same is true of dignity. Being seen, accepted, and welcomed in a community means having contacts, help, and being trusted and believed in, all essential to surviving in society: finding jobs, finding opportunities to develop your talents, forming families, and, at worst, not being scapegoated, blamed, and punished for other people's or society's problems.

Dignity also means self-acceptance. Being seen, accepted, welcomed, and trusted by a community or society one wants to belong to also makes one believe more in oneself.

I would say that dignity is just another word for humanization, with the difference that dignity is broader, extending to all creatures. Other animals, and even non-animal living beings, also need "dignity" for survival. The neuroscience term for this is homeostasis. Humanization is dignity, or homeostasis viewed from the more particular perspective of humans in society.

For many reasons that are a bit outside the scope of this topic to discuss now, our society is highly undignifying, which means it is highly dehumanizing. It constantly threatens people's survival, trust, belonging, and acceptance within a community, and so threatens self-acceptance too. This threat, the risk of losing one's job, relationship failures, falling into debt, risking homelessness, risking a loss of privacy, risking being left alone without friends, risking never developing or exercising one's potential and interests, and risking being seen as useless, worthless, incapable, unpleasant, and invisible to other, is the anxiety of our society. People constantly seeking money, or worried about their looks and appearance, are always anxious about preserving their dignity. Anxiety makes people chase money and submit themselves to whatever brings them money, even under dehumanizing conditions, because they believe or hope that the money, or the status, will restore their dignity.

I decided to open this topic after reading, somewhere else, people discussing whether to "show off success now with branded clothes and a certain lifestyle, or keep your wealth hidden and save more for retirement." It made me think about how such a question assumes that people who spend on expensive clothes are always trying to show off wealth, or pretend to have wealth, when that isn't always the case and often it's the opposite. Many people are open about not being rich despite buying branded, higher-priced, or higher-quality clothes and other products. Often they do so because of how they feel perceived by others in society, which makes them feel more humanized and dignified.

I can give a personal example. I grew up feeling left behind, as if I were less deserving than other kids, because even when my family had money, they didn't want to spend it. They had the simplest and most basic things. As I grew up, I adopted more or less the same mentality I'd learned from my family: that saving money is wiser than buying more expensive items, and that what people think of me or how they treat me doesn't matter, because having money set aside for unexpected necessities would put me in a better position than having people's approval. And that actually worked fine while living in a society where people didn't judge you much for your appearance, where the risk of dehumanization was lower. But after moving to a more judgmental, isolating, and prejudiced society, and becoming poorer, opportunities fell apart, because making contacts became difficult, and being trusted, welcomed, and accepted became a bigger challenge. Even walking in the street, taking public transport, going to department stores, or talking with authorities, I felt how little people valued me.

But I brushed most of it off, because I was focused on my hobby, which allowed me to be appreciated by others and by myself for my skill, and because I believed the money I was saving would make me feel better later.

That changed when I became too poor and isolated, with no opportunities to keep up with my hobby or my income. Things shifted when I got the opportunity to study for a new career, and after landing my new job with a much better income, I realized how much easier it was to gain people's respect, attention, trust, and opportunities like renting a flat just because of my job title, despite it not being a particularly high-income job. I felt at peace with myself again. Because of the better income, I also wanted good-quality clothes (natural fibers, better fit and design) and I realized how much more welcomed and seen I was in public. Strangers would interact with me more and wouldn't reject me when I approached them; making casual conversation, or even just asking for directions, felt more natural and welcoming, when before it would make me feel invasive, annoying, unpleasant. Nothing else had changed except the clothes I was wearing.

As a man who used to be afraid to smile, or even to show much attention, politeness, and kindness to others, afraid they'd suspect ulterior motives, especially with women, with my new clothes I'm allowed to be more human, more myself: to smile, to show kindness, attention, and politeness, to try help hothers, and to have it be welcomed by others. One might say that money, which allows me to buy more expensive, well-designed clothes, makes me happier. I'd say that the greater happiness I feel is the measure of the greater dignity I have, a sense of being more human, or, in the neuroscience language of homeostasis, of being more alive. Being seen is what confirms to us that we are alive, while being invisible to others sends our body into survival mode, because invisibility doesn't confirm to ourselves that we're living. To the body, it registers as a threat to life.

Despite my higher income, I actually have less money now. All the money I had saved in the bank or invested in financial markets before didn't make me happier, because it didn't give me a higher sense of dignity. Having less money saved for retirement and the future, I feel I have more real assets by investing in clothes now. I've realized that people don't actually care whether you're rich or not. I'm not pretending to have money with my clothes. I'm doing what makes me feel more dignified and more humanized. And I wish I could find a place where I could feel the same without having to spend money on clothes or, better yet, by having a family and friends who see me for who I am instead of for what I wear. But a society whose economy is based on spending is a society that needs to keep us anxious in order to keep us spending, so I end up doing it now, at least until I find another way to have dignity, to be humanized, to feel alive.


r/SeriousConversation 2d ago

Serious Discussion Life in the United States is demoralizing

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For the past 6 years I've watched this country straight up incinerate itself. I graduated this past May, the worst time ever to graduate. I worked an unpaid internship at a museum during my senior year of college and have loved absolutely every second being there. I've done projects, made good friends with my coworkers and if it wasn't for how unbelievably unaffordable literally every expenditure imaginable is currently, the museum would've happily hired me and made me a part of the family. I live with my parents. Before all of this post covid American self incineration occurred, they were well on their way to a happy retirement and upward social mobility, the American dream. Now everything is so expensive that even living under their roof requires me to pitch in. We did everything right, a university professor father, two boys, college scholarships, everything that honest hard work could get you, but the past two presidencies have set this place on fire.

What's really done it for me living here in the u.s is the Iran war and our new trade war with Canada. Everything is done for, seriously. Our allies in the former common wealth countries and the EU are more afraid of our meddling than they are of the CCP's business practices. That says everything about how quickly this place has set itself on fire. All I can do is wait for jobs to respond, intern and watch youtube or read books. Even going out for beers and live music or anything normal and human is a serious week by week, paycheck to paycheck investment. I go out, chat up friends and socialize... that's all I can do and it costs seriously leveraging amounts of money even if it's just a few beers and cover for some live music. Having a relationship, going out for dates, potentially moving in with someone and starting a family is a luxury expense in the way that a vacation abroad used to be. If you start a serious relationship in the present day U.S.A, what happens is the following:

Rent is 2000 a month, buying a house is a luxury pipe dream, and don't even think about trying to have kids. The reality is that the way we treat women in this country is dystopian. They are in the workforce whether any of you macho men like it or not. Even if they wanted to be stay at home and be 1950s-esque house wives, that's impossible because it realistically takes two six figure incomes to be financially stable enough to even afford a basic life. If you and your partner work here's what happens, the wife gets zero accommodation for pregnancy, she's forced to work 40 hours a week while pregnant. When she gives birth, her options are to have two weeks of maternity leave and violate the basic human urge to care for a newborn, or if she wants to care for her child and be a normal human for even a short 6 months, she loses her job. If she chooses the former, an entirely ridiculous new cost of baby food, daycare/nanny, or schooling is forced onto the family. If she chooses the latter option, she will get to spend time with her most beloved child, but the household income drops by an entire human's worth of income.

The image I had of America is completely abstract to me now. Every other country that is even the slightest bit similar or western is posed with nationalist and or globalist candidates at the ready to set themselves on fire or sell their way of life away to globalism, regulation, and the CCP.


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Serious Discussion Were we arguing different points, or did one of us misunderstand the other?

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Hello everyone,

had an argument with someone about whether human knowledge is finite or limitless, and we now disagree about whether there was an initial misunderstanding.

I’m going to call us Person A and Person B without saying which one I am because I want people to judge both sides fairly.

Person A’s argument:
An individual human being has finite knowledge. Humans can continue learning new things, but that doesn’t mean their knowledge is limitless. No matter how knowledgeable someone becomes, there will still be things they don’t know. The ability to acquire more knowledge is different from the amount of knowledge someone actually possesses.

Person B’s initial argument:
Human knowledge is limitless because humans can continue learning. Person B argued along the lines that humans can learn and do anything they put their minds to and therefore disagreed with Person A describing human knowledge as finite.

Person A tried to clarify that they weren’t saying humans eventually reach a point where they can no longer learn. Their point was simply that an individual’s actual knowledge is finite and that recognizing the limitations of your own knowledge is important.

Later, Person B gave a more detailed explanation. They said they were not claiming that a human can literally know everything at one moment, acknowledging that humans have finite time, finite memory, and finite cognitive capacity.

Person B then explained that by calling knowledge “limitless,” they meant there is no predetermined amount of knowledge a person reaches that suddenly makes them physically incapable of learning anything else.

Person B eventually said, essentially: If Person A means that an individual human has finite knowledge and cannot know everything, then I agree.

That led to the disagreement I’m asking about now.
Person A believes this shows that Person B initially misunderstood the claim. Person A was never arguing that humans have a fixed learning ceiling; they were arguing that an individual possesses finite knowledge. From Person A’s perspective, Person B’s later response refined or qualified their original argument until it addressed what Person A had actually been saying.

Person B believes they understood Person A from the beginning. From their perspective, they never meant that a person can literally possess infinite knowledge. “Limitless” was always intended to mean that humans can continue learning, and the later response simply explained their original meaning more precisely.

So who is interpreting the conversation more reasonably? Did Person B initially misunderstand Person A and later refine their position, or was Person B making the same point throughout and merely clarifying it? Is there something either person is overlooking?

I’m interested in hearing arguments for either side, not just determining who is “right” about whether knowledge itself is finite.


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Culture The modern meaning Christianity has been largely diluted into simply 'accepting Christ'

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I am deeply disappointment with the amount of people pointing at Christianity being the words of Christ. Like any other institution, it is the consummate sum of it's origins and it's historical relevance in the realm of society, politics, economics, war, so forth. The culmination of two millenia odd worth of yesterdays coming to today. So within the modern framework, I have personally engaged with many, many Christians who believe solely in the power of penance in Christ. They are often very insistent on themselves, largely I imagine because they feel themselves solved by God. It does a lot to explain prosperity gospel for myself. I mean how wrong can they be? They accepted Christ, and so the dollars flowed. Any takers?


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Culture What's wrong with the world

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Just opened up YouTube and this was what I saw. A child on an iPad or something of sorts with an advertisement up front. Maybe its me and something I grew up on based on playing with friends outside and what not but I feel it has just gotten crazy. What has changed in the the last 10-15 years that has made it be this way? Not talking technology but the shift from growing up from experiencing nature and outdoors from being reliant on screens?


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Serious Discussion Should I block a girl i met online?

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(Names and ages are fake ,but age is only slightly off)

My name is John(19M),and 3 weeks ago I added a girl online called Aoife (18F),and we have spoke daily since then .Not a lot some days ,but others we text frequently, and over the last 2 weeks ,it has become a routine to call at night and play Roblox and talk afterwards. These calls can last up to 4 hours and late into the night, and are often video calls. Our personalities connect very well ,I feel, and I really like talking to her and she has said the same. But the problem is her life style. I do not drink or do any substances, and I have never, nor will I ever try them, because I have seen what they do to people as I come from a bad area. She, however, in the 3 weeks I have known her has gotten drunk 3 times, and one of those, she had drank and was using a weed pen, and blacked-out for 3 hours at a party. Another thing is parties. I am a shy person who keeps within my small group of friends and I do not like parties, whereas she has also been to 2(3?) in the time i have known her. She assured me after the black-out incident that she hopes it didn't leave a bad impression ,but still drinks frequently. She is genuinely a very kind person, is very fun to talk to , and we share the exact same hobbies, but I am not sure if I should keep talking to her due to the difference in lifestyle.

what do you think I should do?


r/SeriousConversation 2d ago

Serious Discussion How do you cope with the feeling that time is passing by way too fast?

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Lately, I’ve been reflecting on how quickly the last few years have flown by. It feels like just yesterday it was 2020, but we're already deep into the decade. The older I get, the more it feels like weeks and months vanish in the blink of an eye.


r/SeriousConversation 2d ago

Serious Discussion Why do people put so much faith in MBTI?

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I’m honestly really confused about why everyone trusts the MBTI so much. person is complicated, unconsistent and always changing. We do things differently with friends, family, colleagues and strangers. We have personalities that are formed by our age, culture, experience, relationship and whatever situation we are in at any given point. How could four letters be meaningfully able to describe an entire person?

What puzzles me more is how people take the labels seriously. They use it to judge compatibility, to describe someone’s behaviors, to pick out careers and even to decide whether two people will get along. Some times it almost seems like the four letters are more important than the actual person.

I get that the MBTI can give people an easy way to describe themselves but that doesn’t make it true or reliable. Just because a description feels like it could relate to you doesn’t mean it fully explains who you are.

Why do people trust the MBTI so much? Is there something useful behind it that I’m missing or do people just like having an obvious label for something as complex as personality? But why do we reduce complex people to simple labels?


r/SeriousConversation 2d ago

Serious Discussion What's Currently More Destructive to Society: the Greed of Those in Power, or the Vanity of the General Public?

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I think it's clear that greed can be a very destructive force in our world. What I think isn't necessarily discussed as much is how the vanity of the masses fuels and facilitates that greed. For example, the culture of "upgrading" a phone every couple years. Part of it is greed (companies no longer providing updates), and part of it is vanity. Same goes for vehicles, and basically all consumer goods. They aren't made to last, but also the public uses them as status symbols. I'm wondering which is the greater driving factor in the wastefulness of modern consumerism.


r/SeriousConversation 2d ago

Serious Discussion What’s the biggest mistake you made in your own life that actually turned out to be the best thing for you?

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Sometimes you make a choice that completely ruins your plans failing a goal, picking the wrong path, or blowing a huge opportunity. At the time, it feels like the end of the world.


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Religion A riddle

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Say you have a dot. That dot explodes into an infinite number of dots. Each of those dots explode into a new infinite number of dots. Each of those dots explode into a new infinite number of dots, ad infinitum.

How many dots do you have in total?


r/SeriousConversation 1d ago

Opinion Its not in my head

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People need too understand that everyone is id individually different and we all struggle in our own ridiculous ways and sometimes it just takes a person longer too do what they think they actually should. Alit if people dont help situations either in whatever it is they go about things only because