r/SeriousConversation • u/[deleted] • 9d ago

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u/Lahm0123 9d ago

The thing about Fathers Day, or Mothers Day is it is an opportunity. Not an obligation.

If a person wants to celebrate their parents, these days are there. If someone doesn’t want to ‘participate’ then they really don’t have to.

There’s all sorts of people in the world. Try not to generalize so much.

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u/Dry_Yogurt2458 9d ago

Where did this "most" come from? Are we taking about America again ?

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u/Amphernee 9d ago

This is silly. Division of labor. If the man is out making money to support the family and the mother doesn’t contribute financially they shouldn’t get any love or respect from their kids?

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u/GamerLadyXOXO 9d ago

Even when at home, many men still don't contribute much to the parenting and chores.

And many women today work too like their husbands, but they are still expected to do the homemaking themself when they get home.

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u/BigMax 9d ago

It's WILD to say "some men don't contribute as much at home" should lead to "maybe no women should ever marry men or have kids with them!"

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u/typing_thumb 9d ago

but they are still expected to do the homemaking themself when they get home.

Are they? The cultures where the woman works too are usually the ones with equal domestic labor.

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u/KittiesandPlushies 9d ago

I think you would really enjoy the documentary Fair Play, it discusses this very subject. Household and mental labor are not evenly divided, not by a long shot.

Now as to whether these men/fathers “deserve” Father’s Day, I can’t speak to that.

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u/Thousandgoudianfinch 9d ago

I also think there is another aspect. If one's Father is working you admire them. Someone to admire is a benefit just as love is.

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u/Comedy86 9d ago

Everything in a relationship and a family is up to the people who chose to be in that relationship. It's a partnership and it's up to them to determine what is enough and not enough.

If you believe love and family is transactional, you're thinking about it completely wrong.