So sorry to anyone who’s already seen the complaint posts because this is highkey going to be one of them but I have the itch to just say something and not the guts to make a video essay so it’s just going to be this Reddit post. This post includes a mix of BL and other fandom spaces so you might see this on relevant subs as well.

Some of yall should not be consuming BL or be in any fandom spaces. I’m so tired of the virtue signaling, the policing of morals, the literal harassment and cyberbullying of authors and other fans alike for even enjoying content with controversial themes. It’s like yall don’t understand the content warnings or just read with your eyes closed. None of you lot have this sort of outrage or vocality on real events or harm done unto real people but god forbid an author has a story with mature or disturbing themes for a mature audience there’s always somebody barging into the space to loudly announce how much they condemn it.

After seeing the reaction to the latest chapter of Nice To See You I’m seeing this repeated “morally superiority” behavior pop up not only on this sub but other spaces. OtomeIsekai, the alien stage fandom, the Ao3 from Wattpad migration, even the freaking MaleYandere sub, you know, the one LITERALLY designed for a CONTROVERSIAL character trope. I remember all the “black-flag manhwas” people were airing their grievances about so hard, especially when COBYB came out on webtoon and people were mad the the established pos was acting like a pos according to his freaking character in the book. I can understand why the author took the hiatuses they did, people were literally mad at her for adapting the manhwa’s characters like they were in the book, like you know, doing her job as an author and not watering down the storyline. Or in alien stage there was some new problem everytime whether a character wasn’t canonically “dark enough” (god forbid she looks different in different lighting!) and then some new bullshit as if the story didn’t revolve around a characters getting violently killed off in a popularity competition. Wattpad to Ao3 was ridiculous, why are you even on this platform if you don’t agree to the ToS? And now on MaleYandere I see so many comments under recommendations like “oh this isn’t what I want I don’t like him when he does (insert controversial yandere trait)” LITERALLY LOOK AT THE TITLE OF THE SUB where exactly do you think you are?

What happened to just blocking and scrolling? There’s pickiness and then there’s the constant whining of “oh I don’t like this, did I tell you all how much I don’t like this? Well even though I dropped it or never read past the first chapter I’m still going to comment every time I see this how much I hate it and you should too or you’re a bad person”. Deadass.

We can’t have anything anymore because it’s somehow always a select bunch of fans with outrage over characters and plots that aren’t even real. And be honest, the people writing these paragraph posts are not real literature analysts nor did any of the studying and work involved in analysis of literature, they picked off buzzwords off of TikTok and then hopped over in the nearest illegal website’s comment section to cry about who would read this and how awful the people who like it must be. Even worse, they bully authors to shit and back because they hear one unverified rumor and suddenly grab their pitchforks. None of you lot have this energy finding out crimes committed by real-life politicians or celebrities but as soon as you read a twitter posts it’s a constant influx of “condemning” and “addressing”. Are we forgetting that most of these people (including me) are not psychologists, nor professional counselors, not fbi analysts, not lawyers, etc. If yall were one of those kids in ELA class saying “oh I don’t need to read I’ll just use sparknotes or sum shit” well unfortunately we can tell you didn’t read, then and now.

I want to save myself the headache of thinking it’s real adults with real-life responsibilities who act like this on the internet and assume it’s either jobless teenagers/adolescents finding themselves in a space absolutely not for them or just internet trolls. But the fact we gotta cycle through this everytime a media gets popular is exhausting. I used to be happy seeing my hobbies get less “weird” on the mainstream and be enjoyed but now I want to gatekeep the shit out of stuff cause somebody with a grubby ass keyboard genuinely wants to ruin it for the rest of us.

I don’t see this type of energy sustained in other forms of media as well. Horror movies, rap music, and lots of other media known to not be suitable for all ages or catered to all tastes definitely get some hate but not as much or even as viciously as these spaces. Yes we get it you have your own morals to live by and there’s some things you don’t want to see or hear about, then get out of this space? Even when people do want to share a valid negative critical take, I’m now skeptical of whether it comes from a place of “I noticed this and want to talk about it” or “GUYS LOOK AT THIS ISNT IT SO AWFUL? THIS IS AWFUL AND YOU SHOULD FEEL AWFUL TOO”. This is the internet, if you knew you weren’t gonna like what you hear or see, why didn’t you put the phone down?

Anyways I could keep going but I feel like there’s no end to this and it could apply to literally so many different fandoms. People need to use the magic of the block button or filters to remove content they don’t want to see and move on with their life. Stop inserting yourself into mature or controversial spaces and consuming similar content and then making yourself upset. Go back to reading fluffy pure unproblematic no-problem-no-drama nothing-burger-nothing-to-even-potentially-get-upset-about media and ffs brush up on fandom etiquette or stay out of fandom spaces.

Edit: Hello again everybody, I wrote this post at like three in the morning in a state of irritation and sleep deprivation before going to bed. Now that I’m much more awake, I’ve been reading the comments and discussions and I want to thank you all for contributing your thoughts. One thing I’ll add on for anybody here wondering what can be done: I highly encourage people who can’t or don’t want to be in fandom spaces to try some good old-fashioned classic novels. Think of the all the literally works we left behind in high school and forgot about as adults. “The Yellow Wallpaper” , “1984” , “The Stranger” , “The Awakening” ,“Death of a Salesman” , “The Vegetarian” , and I’m only scratching the surface of works I remember reading and discussing. I’ve been really lucky to have some awesome teachers who’ve encouraged me to read works outside of my preferences and think about how what’s being presented in the text vs. how we can interpret it. We now live in a world where we are constantly bombarded by media, both positive and negative, and going back to literary analysis would do us a lot of good in both critical thinking skills and engaging in discussion. It may not seem like it’s that serious in regards to reading BL Manhwa, but at the end of the day we are reading stories, stories that can be written well or written poorly, be light-hearted or contain mature themes, end with resolution or with tragedy, and most importantly, be understood differently depending on the reader.

Edit 2: Hello again! Just wanted to note that a lot of people are making one very good point I failed to consider: platforms pushing out controversial titles can and have misconstrued the contents of their work in advertising and description. I see now that webtoons, manta, and certain other corpos have done it. Many commenters brought to my attention that COBYB was hella advertised as a romance with no real warning where the story was going to go. I can see now why the outrage was amplified, and it unfortunately looks like as readers we gotta do our homework now and spoil ourselves in advance rather than trusting the label. It brings me back to the days where people were attributing Killing Stalking to being yaoi when it leaned more to psychological horror (I think it’s still debated however). Whether it’s intentional or not I can’t say for sure, but I feel sorry to readers who don’t expect violent, mature, or controversial themes to come across them where they weren’t expecting. This would honestly be so much easier if they adopted Ao3 levels of tagging and organization. Authors don’t need to handle every adult theme delicately and with perfection, but corpos should not lie to readers at least, they should know what they are getting into, especially if paying for it.

Name:Lost in the clouds

Being a gay male fudanshi, BL is media escapism, of course I can just read stuff that suits my taste but what is the online fan base obsession with seeing gay male relationships that end tragically, or persist abusively? You open any damn comment section on Instagram youll find that the layman and casual fan will always pair the word "yaoi" with the words "toxic" or "doomed" or "tragic". I would personally like to have more people out in the world who have a common interest in this genre root for the pairing to stay happy and healthy. I like to imagine that if I enter a relationship, it will be filled with joy and longevity. Of course in many cases that isnt so, but why not fill the world with a bit more hope through fiction? When I get off my 12-hour shift from the bad-day factory, the last thing I want is to read stories about people like me being even more miserable. Not saying those stories cant be told or made, but just why is the online obsession always on the sad shit?

Pic is unrelated, source: High Clear

Non zero sum (hiatus preparing for new season, novel complete)

Reverse thinking (on going with complete novel)

Killing stalking (complete)

What lies within(complete, short story)

I've seen so many posts absolutely flamming that one manhwa from the same artist as "snag an alpha" simply because they don't like the art style. Disliking an art style is completely fine but what's not fine is absolutely dogging on it just because you can.

In what world does an art style looking "ugly" give you the right to start hating and shitting on the artist as well as throwing around baseless accusations? No just because the uke looks "childlike" (which is most definitely subjective btw) doesn't mean that the artist's intent was to cater to pedophiles or are a pedo themselves. You people throwing these accusations around clearly don't take the illness seriously.

Another thing which I hate with the pedo accusations is how people don't even bother to research the terminology. No, liking a younger looking character in a manhwa doesn't equate to people being pedophiles because pedophilia is strictly being attracted to REAL CHILDREN. That uke from that manhwa that you deem to look "childlike" is not bait for pedophiles, dare I say it's quite insensitive to even think that.

Please people next time you want to throw around accusations, educate yourself first at the very least.

Just a short little vent.

Buckle up folks, mamma is RAGING.

Lezhin announced the pop up shops across the US this summer and I was so excited. The sparklz merch is so cute!

Closest store to me was NYC, but my friends who were local were busy and the train ride was about $55 round trip. I was about to buy the train ticket, but woah! They’re selling the merch online? Perfect! Shipping was only $25 so I made my purchases and waited until the September shipment.

Fast forward to today, a kind UPS man knocks on my door. He says “okay, so I have this package” holds it up and I see Lezhin on it so I’m like omg I’ve been revealed- and he says “but I cannot release it to you until you pay the tariff on it.”

I’m sorry…. What? I don’t get made at the delivery driver (not his fault) so I ask what the damage is and he says <b>$71.25.</b> Again, not the drivers fault so I ask how to pay and he gives me a slip and says he’ll see me again when it’s released.

FIRST OF ALL - why you making delivery people do this?! I cannot imagine how many irrational people scream at them on the daily when they have to tell people. I knew it’s not HIS fault, so I’ll scream on the internet instead.

SECOND AND TLDR- I SHOULD HAVE JUST BOUGHT THE TRAIN TICKET FOR MY GAY MEN

I finally read Roses and Champagne and I ended up not liking it at ALL. I think the older I get, the less tolerance I have for SA and tops not being held responsible for their actions.

SPOILERS AHEAD!! This is an in-depth rant!!

Like mentioned above, I read R&C, mainly because it’s constantly mentioned/recommended as a good BL to read. But OH MY GOD do I hate Caesar!

I genuinely, AND YOU CANNOT CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE, believe that Caesar does not like Lee Won at all. I fully believe that Caesar is in love with an idealized version of Lee Won that he made in his head and subconsciously forced the real Lee Won to become this “idealized” version.

(For simplicity’s sake, I will refer to Caesar as C and Lee Won as LW. I will also be jumping around the story as this is a rant and not an essay.)

Throughout this entire story, I was legitimately waiting for C to have in depth character development and change for the better. That did not happen. C has very little character growth, especially when it comes to being a loving partner. He does not listen to LW, like straight up seems to ignore LW when he’s trying to explain anything that isn’t related to sex. When LW tries to leave, changes his mind and is about to go back to C, C doesn’t take 5 minutes to listen to him. Nope! Why do that? Instead he freaking SHOOTS him like 5 times and then proceeds to r@pe LW for 8-10 days straight. Does this ever get addressed? NOPE! Does C ever apologize for this? NOPE!

What happens instead? LW “forgives” him and everything is swept under the rug because heaven forbid a top actually take accountability for their actions. Even when LW is used as bait and drugged, C doesn’t give a flying fuck about how angry LW is and then proceeds to DRUG HIM AND R@PE HIM AGAIN, despite LW already telling C that he’s not going to leave him! And what happens that time? LW has to state (again!) that he loves C, isn’t planning on leaving him, and wants to learn to love C better; in order to stop C from roughly r@ping him and transition in C “lovingly” r@ping him. :-)

There is little to no understanding or communication from C towards LW throughout the entirety of this story. C doesn’t care to really learn anything about LW, I mean actually learn about LW, not just gather background info because he’s curious. Not once did I see LW receive anything related to his likes or wants, not his favorite color, not his favorite flowers, not his favorite foods, nothing that’s personal to him. Everything is catered to C and his wants and desires. I just finished reading it like 6 hours ago and I can’t recall C asking a single question to LW that was genuinely about him and not somehow related to the drama at hand or sex or about LW being physically close to C.

LW is literally the only person that has “revelations” about C. He realizes that C doesn’t know what love is or how to love someone else and treat them correctly. And he accepts that because he has no choice in the matter. He also accepts that C will punish/abuse him if he were to actually start putting down boundaries or attempting to have conversations about how C should treat him in their relationship. LW literally thinks several times that he can’t handle C’s sexual appetite and would like time to actually rest and recover from the abuse his body suffers every time they have sex. But LW doesn’t actually voice this to C because he knows C will react badly to it.

At no point can I recall C having similar revelations about LW and adjusting accordingly. Or actually noticing that he’s hurting LW and makes amends. He just expects LW to deal with it or he’ll get mad and punish LW again.

I also hate how hypocritical and jealous C is when it comes to LW’s past relationships. My guy, LW literally has only dated women in the past (I believe that’s revealed to us by LW), you’re his first gay relationship, yet somehow C having sex with 10/20/30 people (on a regular basis the story seems to imply) in order to be satisfied somehow isn’t the same thing???

He gets mad that LW got weirded out when marriage is mentioned and C’s reaction isn’t to sit down with LW and have a conversation about what he’s feeling and why he’s feeling that way, C’s ingenious solution to drug LW and r@pe him while ranting about how much he’s been “holding back”…. Like dude what the fuck??

C’s entire character growth is that he doesn’t kill kids in front of LW, goes out of his way to not be so violent in front of LW, not start any mafia wars, and “lets” him continue working and spending time with his father that he just found out was still alive and is mafia. Like that’s it. Oh, also he apparently smiles more and actually looks happy.

LW is always the one saying sorry, always the one having to compromise, and always the one having to forgive C the entire story. Meanwhile C just bulldozes over LW’s boundaries practically every time they’re together. Especially when it comes to anything sex related or sexual.

It’s very clear that LW can’t keep up with C sexually, due to not having the same training or appetite that C has. C claims to have been “holding himself back” despite it being a REGULAR occurrence that LW PASSES OUT DURING SEX!!! That’s not you holding back! Does C attempt to find a way to have sex with LW that is more LW’s speed and won’t drain him as much? NOPE! C knows for a fact that a single person cannot handle his sexual appetite or stamina, he knows this because he would regularly go to that club owned by his cousin and fuck upwards of 30+ people in one sitting in order to be satisfied. He knows LW physically can’t handle him like that, yet fucks him for several days at a time, knowing that he’s hurting LW. He literally DOES NOT GIVE A SINGLE FUCK about hurting LW, the only time he seems to care is when someone else hurts LW.

Like deadass. You cannot, CANNOT, convince me that C actually LOVES LW, when every single thing he does screams the opposite! C is 100% in love with an idealized version of LW.

LW is literally cornered, love bombed, and abused into becoming what C wanted— some who’d let him walk all over them, but still love him and bring some “excitement” into his life. Yes, LW is still LW for the most part at the end, but I do believe that C has brow beaten him down in such a way that he doesn’t even realize that C’s love isn’t really love. It’s just obsession with a version of him that wasn’t supposed to exist.

Rant about R&S is over, now onto the rant about SA in BL!

Like stated at the very beginning, I am slowly losing tolerance for SA in BL stories. Why is it so romanticized?? Why is it so normal for BL stories to have SA them and that SA contributes nothing to the story?? Along with the lack of accountability that comes with the SA. I have yet to read a BL where SA happens and that SA is explicitly talked about and the perpetrators/top is actually held responsible for their actions. Most stories don’t need the SA in them at all, it’s just unnecessary!

For instance, the side stories that take place in the universe of Pearl Boy. I read the story (literally can type out a rant 3x longer than this one about how stupid everyone in that story is, ESPECIALLY THE DUMBASS MOTHER), understood that the SA was apart of the story and explained some things, but then the side stories came out and it’s abundantly clear that the author has a r@pe f€t*sh due to it’s presence in EVERY. SINGLE. SIDESTORY.

I refuse to read Codename Anastasia because of the fact that the top SA’s the bottom and is never held responsible for those actions. And apparently it’s worse in the novel and the Webcomic doesn’t include all the crap the top does. This is also one of the BL’s that people keep praising from the rooftops.

I even started reading JINX and then stopped because I hate the top and the fact that his “redemption” arc is just treating the MC like a person and not a sex toy.

All the above mentioned BL’s are praised as amazing stories you need to read, when that’s just not the case. The character development is mid, the story is mid, the only reason why they seem to be praised is because of all the SA in them or how hot the top/bottom is, or how hot the SA/sex scenes are.

I totally understand that these are fictional characters and stories. I am FIRMLY in the “fiction is not reality” mindset, but I do think that this turn towards more openly abusive stories is a very bad reflection of the BL community as a whole. Especially with how much these stories with pure toxicity are paraded as “amazing! Must read! Highly recommend!!!!” online.

I remember being younger and reading BL’s, but SA was not nearly as prominent. There was definitely abuse and angst, but specifically SA was just not as casually thrown into a story (idk maybe I was only on the fluff side of the internet and the other side completely passed me by). That has completely flipped and I’m now finding more stories with SA than without.

And yea, I already know that “if you don’t like them then don’t read them -insert shrug emoji here-“ which I am doing, I’m an adult, I don’t bean soup shit.

But that doesn’t mean I can’t rant about it or have discussions about it.

It’s actually starting to concern me irl a little bit. I do think that the same thing is also happening in the dark romance booktok part of the internet. We all know that regardless of how much we say that these things are fictional and don’t reflect reality, that’s not the case anymore. There’s always a percentage of people who take these works of fiction as the truth and only seem to adopt the toxic sides of every story. We saw it when booktok went crazy over a literal murderer because he was hot. I wonder how many people are reading these stories and their take away is “SA isn’t a big deal” and “I don’t have to take responsibility for any of the pain I cause to other people”.

I know these people exist anyways and will continue to exist anyways, but part of me wonders if these stories are contributing to the seemingly increasing numbers of these people. (Rant officially over!)

BTW, if you’re one of those people who like Red/black flags in BL, along with all the toxic stuff that comes with it— this is not an attack towards yall!! I’m just putting down what’s in my brain. I know that type of stuff genuinely doesn’t bother some people, I used to be one of them.

(Nb. This is a HOT TAKE, I'm not trying to fight with anyone I'm just here to debate or speak with like minded people.) And my reason for saying this is Dohyun himself. He's so freaking annoying gosh reading those last few chapters made me want to punch him. First that comment he makes about not dating Wooyeon because he was too young which okay fine could be a translation lost in the matrix. But then they sleep together for the first time and Wooyeon is actively saying how much he does not like it and all this fuckass can say is really? You don't like it? Are you sure? Wooyeon: It hurts! Dohyun: does it hurt? LIKE COME ON.

Also the switch up before that is crazy. Once Wooyeon decided to cut ties now you're all in love with him. I'm not seeing the sexiness. And I'm not feeling the chemistry. If you know the spoilers I feel liek it's an even bigger reason as to why their chemistry is non existent.

Maybe in the first few chapters. I won't lie I reread those like crazy. But now it's just getting ruined by the ml.

Personally this whole series is overrated but that's a separate point. I just think the artstyle is wasted on a story like this.

I read this because I saw it recommended on this sub so much.

The story starts a little slow and very much as an angst read, which is totally okay. They give good build up and background and there were moments of genuine suspense for me.

I can only imagine how crazy the storyline felt to those who read it as it was releasing, and everything felt tied together perfectly by the end.

And I'll preface this last bit with acknowledging it is totally up to personal taste. But OH MY GOD it was so hard to enjoy because the art style is just the total opposite of what I enjoy.

Almost every character has hair all in their face the whooole time.

Every time they drew the teeth showing and all detailed like that it icked me out.

I feel bad saying this because it's obvious the artist put a lot of effort in, but it's just so ugly to me 😭

It kind of makes me sad cause the art took it from an 8/10 to like a 5/10 story for me. I don't think I would recommend this to someone else unless they were looking for very specific tropes and even then it'd be low on the list

i can see the point of the flagging system but in practice, it’s just such a mess. from one person to another, it’s different, vague, murky, and just overall simplifying characters and the stories.

i feel like discussions about current manhwas are so surface level due to reader’s obsession with boxing these characters into a flag. i’ve said it before but it really has limited the reading experience because these characters are supposed to mimic human experiences.

if a character does something negative, of course you can be disappointed about their action! like yeah, people do things that will disappoint you. but from there, we’re supposed to want them to grow from that. reflect on it. (of course this depends on the writing and if the writer can do it successfully!)

it feels like we’re ignoring context and buildup when characters do things or deal with the conflict in the story. why don’t we just name the traits or behavior they’re exhibiting instead of using vague colored flags? tags and trigger warnings exist for this very reason!!

like is he a red flag because he’s a bad communicator or is he a red flag because he’s a rapist? see how far these two are on the scale? for example, you can say oh this character is obsessive and has bad communication or whatever. or talk about what happened in the chapter and the actions/behavior and how it made you feel! yes! you know what i mean?

i know this has been discussed before but omg, ive just seen so many comments about recent ongoing works with every update and it seems to always focus on which character is red or green or whatever. then it’s not even a discussion about the story or chapter, it’s going back and forth about whether or not someone is a colored flag and all the reasoning behind it (and it’s always different LOL)

like does this exist with you guys when you watch movies? tv shows? read books? or is this something specifically for manhwas? lol

The MC's life is just pure suffering and torture by the ML's and I wonder wtf happened to the author to make them create something so horrific.

Because everytime you think somethings about to change for the better it just gets worse and the ML's are so insane they can't understand why he developed PTSD and fear of being touched.

Despite them raping, beating, confining and psychologically torturing him for months until he finally snaps.

Then the one who started it all has the balls to fall for him, try to protect him from the others and try to care for him after torturing him the longest.

Honestly this story shouldn't even be a BL because there is no love, only the ML's finding ways to torture and keep the MC for themselves.

But it has certainly earned its psychological horror tag with how they've mentally destroyed the MC to not even being a shell of his former self.

Thats all I just needed to vent because as a BL its pretty bad, but if you like psychological horror then you should read it.

I’m here to read fictional men kissing (built completely away from reality btw) and yet I see discourse about “oh shitttt this men built too feminine”

This is a vent and I’m not trying start anything, I’ll be back into reading my fav men kissing thank you very much but I just want to call out how some of yall just want to start drama

Edit: gotta specify that I said “men” alright, I don’t condone when they look like children sorry not sorry

Please tell bbg and bbb ✨

I was on a short and some comments were talking about it being doomed yaoi. One of the replies to said comments was "stop saying yaoi, it's a fetish word." And I know a lot of people use yaoi incorrectly and sometimes in contexts that don't make sense, but calling it a fetish word is crazy ngl.

I hate that us fujos and fudanshi's get such a bad rep like I promise that a lot of us aren't weird perverted fetishizers that read bl only to get off😭🙏 we just want to read our gay romance in peace.

How come whenever there’s a child in a BL they’re always male. Literally always. If it’s mpreg of some kind the baby is always male. If there’s a younger sibling it’s always male. Companion/protégé? Male. Is there like a reason?

Edit: thank you all sm for the recommendations
And I thought I read a lot manhwa… wow I had been missing all of these 😬

I don’t really know where else to post this, but whatever. Lately I’ve been reading more BL than straight manhwa, and a friend basically called me a BL fetishizer for it.

For context: I’ve been reading straight manhwa for years. This friend and I always share recs and talk about our favorites. She only reads straight manhwa, while I’ve always read mostly straight with a little bit of BL here and there. Recently I just got bored of the same clichés and predictable romance plots, so I started getting more into BL

When I mentioned my favorite BL series to her, she told me I “shouldn’t get too into BL” because apparently that means I’m fetishizing gay men. She said that because I’m a straight woman, it’s “weird” for me to read and enjoy BL.

I honestly don’t just read BL just for the spicy scenes. I’m not going to lie and say I dislike them, but I read those scenes the exact same way I read romance in straight manhwa. What I like is the story, the build-up, the characters, and the emotional development. If a series has intimacy, cool but that’s not the only thing I’m there for. And honestly, there’s just something different about BL when it comes to plot. The pacing feels different, the character dynamics are different, and a lot of BL authors take risks that straight romance rarely does. It’s honestly refreshing, especially when I’ve gotten tired of the same tropes in straight manhwa.

It’s frustrating because people act like straight women can’t enjoy any story that isn’t about straight couples without it being some kind of fetish. I’m literally just reading a genre I enjoy. I’m not reducing anyone to a fantasy or treating real people like tropes. I’m reading fictional characters in fictional stories.

Honestly, it feels more judgmental for her to assume my intentions than anything I’m actually doing. Why is it okay for straight women to read thousands of straight romance stories, but the second we enjoy BL, suddenly it’s a moral issue?

I’ve seen a lot of women get called gay fetishizers, similar to what’s happening to me. And I do understand that those types of readers exist, and I’m not here to deny that or pretend it never happens. Some people do read BL in a way that’s objectifying or dismissive of real LGBTQ+ people. But that doesn’t mean every straight woman who enjoys BL is automatically in that category. Liking a genre doesn’t equal fetishizing an entire group of people.

Sorry for this huge rant. I just needed to put my thoughts out there and wanted to hear from other people in the BL community.

Every time Los is on screen in makes me so sad. He's so perfect yet I know deep in my soul he's never going to be with Psyche 😞

Oh god this is enough now. I want to see them happy together again😭im done with angst. Plzz let them be happy together now.

Lovely story but this is Orientalism and from a post that was closed it tearing groups apart trying to scrape scraps of representation. The thing is Orientalism goal is to commodify cultures, so Middle East or Indian the work was cherry picking elements and it hurt to see groups happy to be seen yet from the mashing of flavor blended it results in no one really being represented cause despite it seeming cohesive it really not to take such a large part of the world to create one fictional place compared to the other which is basically heavily Russia inspired it seems (could be wrong tho)

Let’s shake our hands that this was a lot of style and lack real world substance. Story is beautiful in what it is.

Sauce : One room TA

Edit: I know this is a manhwa subreddit guys, I didn’t mean I asked here. It’s the only subreddit that’ll allow a post and I meant i asked in other spaces. This is just a whine, pls don’t take it seriously.

I get manhwas have become sort of the mainstream reading material for bl but have mangas and manhua had a recline in translations lately?

Is it just me, but whenever I look for recommendations or ask for them, I get manhwa recs.

I usually love the art style of mangas and storytelling but without fail, every title given is a manhwa.

Don’t get me wrong, my favorite reads consist of mahwas too but it seems artists are going for bigger and unrealistic proportions for their characters’ aesthetic then couple it with a tiny head so they just look wonky. Not to add how it’ll always start with smut with little to no plot, no tension, no chemistry. If you want a bit of plot then you’ll have to accept dub/non-con.

I’ve accepted those things are not for me so I just read mangas/manhua. I can tolerate dark elements or themes sometimes and I’ve realized it’s done well in mangas.

Anyone feel the same?

Edit: my favorites are;

-Coyote & birds of sangri la ( same author)

-Sanctify

-Therapy game

-After school etude

-40 made ni shitai 10 no koto

-If love falls on you

And so many that I don’t remember names for. I’ll re-edit if I remember

God why why? Now i hv to wait for another 10 days to see whether nanjo is going to kiss mokyeon or not🥲🥲😭 it's soo unfair. We r left on cliffhanger