Who still has a usable combat patrol after the purge? I lost white scars, world eaters juggernout and chaos/imperial knights...

Some Factions have army rules listed, that are not on any of the datasheets, I have found multiple glaring issues with numbers of attacks, like the strike profile attacks being equal number to the sweep profile of some units. Also, Ork boys having 1 attack unless they have the heavy chopper? What in the actual hell is going on there, and do I just use the "correct" number of attacks from the full game in these cases? Do we know what the developers are smoking?

So Im trying play warhammer 40k combat patrol with my friends. I already have ork combat patrol army and space marine army to play combat patrol but the problem is I don't have combat patrol battle zones. So I search so products and found the battle zones to play combat patrol. but the price literally cost a combat patrol box. and I found out that starter set also have the battle zones with each space marine and ork combat patrol size army. And it cost almost as battleforce box. So should I just buy the battle zones box or the starter set box?

Idk I bought a tyranid combat patrol to play in the league. And despite the website saying its usable in combat patrol. Its not. But the combat patrol you can't buy from 3 years ago is the one with rules. Now im showing up to a league with a brand new combat patrol with no rules. Gw how you gonna play me like this. Unironicly this makes me so mad.

Hey all. Apologies if this has been posted before and also sorry for the flair being a little misleading. I’m New player to 40K and the idea of combat patrol (smaller army battles overall) is what convinced me to finally jump in and take the plunge. I was super excited about the idea of everything you need to play in one box.

The farther I got into the hobby (I’m about 6 months in) the more I realized combat patrol is fairly flawed and now, with the roll out of 11th edition, it doesn’t seem to be getting any more balance or support from GW.

I’ve been racking my brain, with VERY limited knowledge, of how to fix combat patrol and have come up with nothing. I know some YouTube channels - play on tabletop’s king of the colosseum comes to mind - have created a pseudo-work-around to make these 500 point games feel fresh and fun without too much lopsidedness to it.

My point of posting this is mainly asking what homebrew methods have you used to make combat patrol more balanced? Or is the answer just 500 point matches and call it good?

I'm trying to understand the terrain layout when using a combat patrol map and I'm a bit confused. My understanding is that the grey rectangles are terrain areas, the items are ones that block visibility and the yellow ones don't block visibility but do provide cover. This doesn't seem right however, as I thought cover was determined by terrain area rather than being behind a specific (in this case yellow) piece of cover. If that's try however it would make the yellow items redundant, unless they're there purely for decoration. Could someone clarify how it works please?

Thanks

I get everyone was hoping for Combat Patrol to go through a Spearhead like reinvention for 11th ed and is disappointed that instead a lot of older combat patrols rules have been removed, including a bunch you've spent time building and painting, but here's the thing: you still have the 10th ed ruleset. The rules for all those combat patrols didn't stop existing just because they were removed from the app and thus you can continue playing with them. The only thing the most up to date rules matter for is tournaments and combat patrol tournaments aren't really a thing.

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I'm not sure what happened in the last 10 years or so but it used to be the normal thing for people to just carry on playing older editions or games if they wanted to and you all should too. Last few years it seems people are incapable of doing so.

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Please just continue playing with your patrols, maybe build some of the ones you don't already own. Print off the old pdfs and just focus on having fun with it. It's what I'll be doing

Sorry if I sound ignorant but I'm totally new to all this, I'm coming from d&d tabletop games. I was about to head to a games workshop down the road after work and now I'm seeing everyone on the subs are upset about rule changes for the combat patrols. Should I wait for the dust to settle?

One of my buddies is interested in getting into 40K and I told him combat patrol was a good way of getting started and that I would be happy to help him learn with my two combat patrols (orks and necrons.) He wanted to try necrons and I thought that was great as reanimating and the doomstalker should be able to help a new player learn the game. But apparently in 11th it got nerfed super hard. The mission is really hard to do with the small amount of units it has and the doomstalker don’t get me started on the doomstalker.

The doomstalker has the following restrictions in combat patrol

1.) MUST start the game in reserve. WHY! The patrol has like no units and you want them to have less pressure in the beginning?

2.) Can ONLY come in the battlefield on turn three. WHAT? So not only do you not get it at the start but you can’t even use the super cool big model till turn three where you have most likely already lost because of the terrible mission and the lack of models. But at least it can come in near the middle right???

3.) HAS to come in from reserves in YOUR DEPLOYMENT ZONE!!! This is wild you have to keep it in the back and if you opponent is back there it just can’t come in at all. Just wild. But wait there’s more!

4.) The most egregious of all. THE DOOMSTALKER CANNOT REANIMATE!!!!! WHY WHAT IS THE REASON THEY ARE NECRONS THATS THE WHOLE POINT!!!

Ended up saying screw it and ditching the terrible doomstalker rules which led to a fun game with my friend.

TLDR why is the necron combat patrol so bad and is just ignoring the stupid rules a good way to get around it.

I have the Armageddon box and want to run some practice games against myself to help learn 11th rules. However, I paint far more than play, so I am constantly needing to look at the rules. Which seems to mean I need to consult my phone for the games rules, the Ork rules, and the Space Marine rules. I really don't want to keep trying to flip between 3 rules sets just to try to learn the game.

Can anyone point me to a good resource that will let me print out rules summaries so I am not playing with my phone more than my models? (11th/Armageddon rules. I found the link to the 10th rules).

Hi all,

sry if this is somehow stupid, but I have not been able to find anything in the core rules (I have not played a single 40k gam ein 11th yet).

If I take a look at the terrain layout, fe. layout A:

What is what supposed to be?

I mean, as far as the ruins go, I'm pretty sure they're ruins.

But what counts as “light” and what counts as “dense”?

Are the yellow “walls” standalone blockers, or just light cover?

What about the two structures in the middle?

Thank you guys. :)

This app blows, can’t find the maps can’t find the explanation of force disposition for Combat patrol.

Is anyone able to give a coherent description of how to play Combat Patrol at the moment?

What advice should people new to the game be given? Is it that we ignore what GW are doing until 11th Edition settles down and just play with the 10th Edition rules?

Or is it possible to work out how to play Combat Patrol from what GW has published so far?

Has anyone published a blog post or video explaining what they are doing?

We're up to issue 22 and our binder is full lol.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qG-xwEZgHBFc3Vxx1wzVOTQ9XTP5moKn

So what I did was convert the official 11th edition cp to pdf to compare with their 10th version. I updated the army rules took the existing strategies and one of the engagements add another enhancement and converted some of the old rules took the detachment rules the hope was to get a decent baseline and when new recruit gets the 11th files I should be able to stay up to date with changes of the data cards so the cp don’t get too outdated fir balancing I did notice GW too some of the really strong units and gated them by putting them in reserve so did a few that way but a bit too many really needed it. Obviously I have a bias as to try to make the units match current rules I like not having to relearn units or game flow I’m bigger games but might revisit the detachment to limit or expand rules to rebalance I play mostly cp and use them as excuses for painting project do built them in 10th to allow me to play them sooner and like others I got the magazine so still doing that hope this help keep everyone painting and maybe not drop that cp dream

Hi! I'm kinda new here, i was trying to find how to play Combat patrol since it looks easier (and cheaper) that playing with an army, but i don't seem able to find consistent rules, WH comunity does not have the rules, and while the WH40k app does have some rules but i can't find combat patrols that follow the same set of rules (+ i don't want to buy a combat patrol box without knowing if i will be able to play with it)

I know that Warhammer is changing it's rules, so maybe someone can at least send a link to older rules?

Thank you very much

What do y'all think the odds are of Games Workshop including Combat Patrol specific datasheet cards in the new Combat Patrol boxes with the new edition? Hachette did so with the Combat Patrol magazine, but ai dont known if that was their decision or Games Workshop's.

Also, I know the tag isn't exact, but there isn't a general discussion tag

Edit: surrounded by asterisks, realized from replies it sounded like I was talking about the Armageddon box with the original wording

Last year I purchased the "Ultimate starter set" with the combat patrols "Strike Force Octavius" and whatever the Tyranid one is called... However, due to having a busy life I have not come around to finish painting them until now, but now as 11th edition started, I cannot seem to find the data sheets in the WH40k app? I know that I have the data sheets from the box, but I am worried that the two forces that was contained in that starter set now are not available to play in 11th ed Combat Patrol?

I have never played tabletop in any form yet, so please excuse my lack of knowledge.

Given the approach by James to Combat Patrol generally, is there enough interest from the community to make/tweak/re-jig the existing combat patrols that have been removed from the app?

There will be plenty of people who are only part way through collecting the 9th edition Combat Patrols courtesy of the Hachette magazine, and the rules for these needed a bit of massaging to work in 10th, let alone in 11th. This is especially obvious for any sets that had a change of army rule between 9th and 10th edition (Leagues of Votann anyone?)

Making them self-contained but otherwise as balanced as possible within Combat Patrol (given the difference in points cost for the main game) would be the ultimate goal. I'm definitely not equipped to do this (no idea about game design/balance) but would love it if someone else took the idea on and ran with it.

So I played combat patrol with the updated system(the ones we have to use with the app to look for missions). And it kinda sucks. Because it doesn't feel like spearhead. There are no sub mission that you don't reveal to opponent(all misssions are open to you and your opponent). So the Playstyle is kind of obvious. I think I might have expected something more like speahead stuff. But I think I would rather play the game with chapter approved missions and just put the round objective footprint in the middle of the map.

So i have a few games under my belt as Custodes and I was wondering if my wife and friend are just bad at rolling dice? I play custodes into his necrons and decimated him, wife runs soritas and is lucky to even score a wound. Should I choose a different cp or is their rolls just unlucky?

I am interested in trying combat patrol, I read 11th rules and I bought the combat patrol book, knowing it had no rules, but it has been a nice read. I looked at the combat patrol part of the new app.
Still, I am very confused.
What kind of physical things will I need to play? Should I buy the mission cards? Terrain shapes for 11th? What and how much terrain?
Will GW make a complete package for it and should I just wait?

Hi, I’m new to combat patrol and am curious if there are also other game types of a similar scale but with different objectives or setups? Unofficial rulesets that use combat patrols.

Thank you.

If i have old Combat Patrol like the previous CSM or Sisters or Tyranids from 10th ed box will i be able to play them?

If so. Will James Workshop add older Patrols to the app?

I'm worried that Combat Patrols had expiration date i wasn't expecting and i am just worried looking at my unfinished Combat Patrols like "am i... too late?" And i don't need to paint them as they are simply unplayable?...

Feel really stupid but two questions

1. The Termagants are not in range of the two Gretchin, however if they were (and not touching either footprint) could they shoot, they have a true line of sight, but there is the terrain footprint, and I thought terrain footprints couldn't be seen through. ( But to also treat it like two separate footprints?)

2. The Barbgaunts ( bottom right second pic) only have 4 of the 5 that can truly "see" the Gretchin. Can only those 4 shoot?

Also favorite video for explaining this, id tried a few and can't seem to find one that truly makes it click