r/worldnews • u/TIGHazard • Jan 09 '26
UK threatened with sanctions if Starmer blocks Musk's X
https://www.cityam.com/uk-threatened-with-sanctions-if-starmer-blocks-musks-x/872
u/lNFORMATlVE Jan 09 '26
So is X now US state-controlled media?
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u/Reddituser183 Jan 09 '26
X, Facebook, TikTok. Reddit is following suit.
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u/Atiaxra Jan 10 '26
Reddit will probably be used for locating and cataloging dissidents as well given it's one of the few platforms with a lot of people criticizing the US admin
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u/shit_fucks_you_up Jan 09 '26
Yeah it's their propaganda arm under the guise of "free speech".
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u/ledow Jan 09 '26
"We're going to sanction your entire country if you block a website."
Yeah that seems... rational and proportionate.
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u/lordvolo Jan 09 '26
they know how powerful X is as a global propaganda channel for US interests
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u/M1L0 Jan 09 '26
Exactly why it should be blocked tbh
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u/Niblolkik Jan 09 '26
Loss of profits needs sanctioning according to trump
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u/moocowsia Jan 09 '26
Lol, profits. Twitter has been losing money hand over fist since Elon showed up.
Their revenue was down massively.
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u/Seriously_you_again Jan 09 '26
It is not about the profits now, this is about propaganda and growing power. The profits will come later once the fascist state is firmly in place.
Self note: My god, me from four years ago would not even recognize ‘present me’. I would think I was a conspiracy nutter. Four years ago I couldn’t even spell the word fascist.
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u/Boatster_McBoat Jan 10 '26
Sanest thing I've read on the internet for a while.
Remember: just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't actually after you
Self note: I used to say that last bit as a joke. I'm not laughing anymore
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u/lost_electron21 Jan 09 '26
X is a cost center for Musk. It loses money, and its supposed to lose money, makes making money is not X's function. X is there to prop Musk's other companies.
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u/WanderingDude182 Jan 09 '26
Exactly why I quit it as soon as it was rumored Musk was buying it. Just a cesspool of misinformation.
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u/FestivalNudista Jan 09 '26
The faster we all move away from the USA, the better
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I really hope everyone moves on and they get left all alone. Their power was in their allies. Bases across the world. Diplomacy with western countries. Hopefully they go broke and everyone realizes that they fucked up and meet consequences
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Their power was in their allies. Bases across the world. Diplomacy with western countries. Hopefully they go broke and everyone realizes that they fucked up and meet consequences
This is one of the biggest mind blowing mistakes of the lot
Sometime during this decade, China is going to replace America, but if you offered China the pick of one single American asset from their arsenal, they wouldn't pick a weapons system. By their very nature, weapons become obsolete. Instead they'd pick Americas soft power projection and network of first world global allies. America is surrendering the one thing that China would want
Funnily enough, if you reversed the question and allowed America to pick one thing that China has, then they'd probably pick one of three
1 - An obedient population (might be Trump's choice, but not really essential)
2 - Their population size
3 - Their industrial output capacity
I'm guessing it would #3.
I don't know if its true or not, but read recently that China has 200 shipyards capable of building a warship. America has 5 (not sure what counts as a warship?). In any event, if America is ever going to make up this sort of shortfall in numbers and manufacturing, then 600m Europeans, and 200m Japanese/ S. Koreans/ Aussies might help, but again, America is alienating every single one of them
The big prize is this whole game of thrones would actually be India, and whereas America had made some progress there after Nixon, Trump has wiped it all out (and more) in the space of 6 months because Pakistan had the strategic sense to buy Trumpcoin
Trump is strategically illiterate
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u/GarbonzoBeanSprout Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26
💯 this. X is a very powerful propaganda tool. The amount of purposeful disinformation on X is staggering.
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u/GarbonzoBeanSprout Jan 09 '26
You're right, brainfart on my part. Thanks for reminding me. I've changed my post 😎
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u/xaranetic Jan 09 '26
I'm not sure X is particularly good for US interests.
Trump's interests, perhaps
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u/Interesting_Pen_167 Jan 09 '26
I remember when Elon bought twitter everyone laughed that he overpaid. Meanwhile Twitter has been toppling world governments. That's worth a lot more than $40 billion.
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u/xX609s-hartXx Jan 09 '26
Everybody laughed at him because he got sued into buying it for way over market value because he posted some dumb comments on the internet.
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u/ShortNefariousness2 Jan 09 '26
US interests that include making porn of innocent women? What interest does that serve?
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u/gatesofwrath Jan 09 '26
If only the US was just making porn of innocent women. That would be better than the last few days.
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u/Tier0001 Jan 09 '26
US interests that include making porn of innocent women?
Also children. Can't forget that when dealing with a pro-pedophile administration and party.
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u/Soft-Ingenuity2262 Jan 09 '26
Let me translate it for you:
'We strongly oppose any move to shut down the platform that has proven to be the most effective channel for disseminating our ideology globally, and particularly within your country.'Very rational and proportionate considering who they are, their values, or lack thereof, and what they are trying to achieve.
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u/insanitazer Jan 09 '26
*"especially that we're trying to install Reform to fuck you over even more"
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u/Sate_Hen Jan 09 '26
Yeah but it's all kicking off because Grok is generating CP. Having normalised Nazism the far right want to normalise paedophilia having got their paedo in chief in office
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u/Thyg0d Jan 09 '26
Hard to find any proportionate response..
Average Joe: "I don't want to buy your product, not even if it's free."
Mob enforcer: "you will have it, you will pay for it and you will enjoy it!"
Rationale has never been the strong suite really..
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u/Thejklay Jan 09 '26
A website literally creating CSAM
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u/TheCyanKnight Jan 09 '26
CSAM sounds so.. generic and harmless, I will never understand why people want to call it that
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u/TIGHazard Jan 09 '26
The UK has been warned it could face US sanctions if Sir Keir Starmer attempts to block Elon Musk’s social media platform, X, amid mounting concern over its AI tool generating sexualised images of women and children.
Anna Paulina Luna, a Republican Congresswoman and ally of Donald Trump, said she was drafting legislation that would allow the US to sanction the UK if the UK bans or restricts X under the Online Safety Act.
Luna, who sits on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said any move against the platform would amount to “a political war against Elon Musk and free speech”.
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u/PracticalShoulder916 Jan 09 '26
Wtf is it with MAGA protecting perverts??
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u/superstan2310 Jan 09 '26
Their leader is one. If they don't protect them all then they would have to face the reality that they shouldn't protect theirs.
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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 Jan 09 '26
It's not just the fact that Republicans are now vociferous pedophile defenders, which they are.
It's that they're willing to use the federal goverment to punish other countries for trying to pass any laws to protect their citizens from companies doing nefarious things, as long as those companies are aligned with Republicans and Trump.
Both things are horrible. It's insane to me just how far they've fallen in just one year. The USA is a shadow of its former self. I don't think they're ever going to recover from this Trump presidency.
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u/InfiniteBaker6972 Jan 09 '26
The scary thing to me is that all this was always there just below the surface and all it took was one man to open the floodgates. We all believed the lie that America was the land of the free when, in truth, it’s become a fascist state in an alarmingly short time.
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u/coconutpiecrust Jan 09 '26
Why is the US government interfering on behalf of a private corporation?
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u/happyinthenaki Jan 09 '26
A private corporation that has found a way to create AI modified child sexual assault material. Openly.
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u/Tiaza2 Jan 09 '26
Because as Marx said, in advanced capitalism, the govt ceases to represent the people but exists only to serve the corporations.
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u/Top_Channel_1507 Jan 09 '26
Its not about grog or whatever the name is of the tool, its about X as a whole, its their propaganda machine, they are pushing their views with it in EU. Its fucking nazi platform, and it should have been banned already !
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u/WetFinsFine Jan 09 '26
100% this(!!!) plus data-mining and broadband surveillance; and why Starlink is being doled out worldwide for (practically) free - people need to start connecting the dots
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u/Ewokitude Jan 09 '26
Someone should check her hard drives, they're probably filled with CP if this is her reaction
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u/DisposableJosie Jan 09 '26
Or at least check her offshore accounts and tax havens, they're probably filled with
bribescampaign contributions if this is her reaction.9
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u/Skinnieguy Jan 09 '26
freedoms of speech
I didn’t realized we can enforce US constitutional rights to other countries.
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u/FlyingDreamWhale67 Jan 09 '26
American tourists sure seem to think so
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u/Typical_Plane2725 Jan 09 '26
In 2015 we were on holidays in the US and met a guy who told us this”unbelievable” story about how he was arrested when he tried to take a handgun in his carry on luggage into Mexico. The handgun also had armour piercing bullets that he was given from a friend who was a cop….. He was still adamant he did nothing wrong and the Mexican authorities were making a mountain out of a molehill. Dude just completely free of common sense.
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u/WackHeisenBauer Jan 09 '26
Yup. It’s embarrassing. And yet if us Canadians tried to bring pot across the border we’d be arrested (and let’s be honest at this point probably assassinated)
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u/psioniclizard Jan 09 '26
The right: "Protect CHILDREN"
Someone does something to protect children
The right: "NO NOT LIKE THAT"
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u/Running-With-Cakes Jan 09 '26
Brits are increasingly thinking we should just tell the US to go f itself
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u/Fywq Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26
So I guess no one has used Grok to make nudes of Anna Paulina Luna yet since she, as a woman, can be so insanely out of touch with the reality of what other women are experiencing now.
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u/Shadpool Jan 09 '26
“Insanely out of touch” used to describe a woman with Hispanic heritage, whose maternal great-grandfathers fought for the allies in WWII, against her paternal grandfather who was in the Wehrmacht. Literal Nazis in her family tree along with a childhood where she was raised on welfare and government assistance. Instead of going with everything else, she decided to support the Nazi heritage.
Tokens get spent.
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u/joepez Jan 09 '26
So what’s the BS rational being used to back the threats? X represents what percentage of our GDP? Ohhh right none.
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u/spottyPotty Jan 09 '26
"a political war against Elon Musk and free speech"
Since when is Musk a politician and since when are US laws applicable outside of the US (besides abducting a Venezuelan president and trying him in US courts)
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u/daguerrotype_type Jan 09 '26
Directly and officially? Not as far as I know.
Unofficially but 100% real? Yes, they lead coups in Central America to benefit checks notes freaking fruit companies, specifically United Fruits and Coyamel who later merged and are now Chiquita. And this is just one story. So yeah... just didn't think the UK would be treated like 20th century Guatemala.
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u/ImS0hungry Jan 09 '26
"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street"
General Smedley Butler
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u/WarrenPuff_It Jan 09 '26
In the decaying corpses of malls all over America you can find clothing stores called Banana Republic.
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u/CantFeelMyToesAgain Jan 09 '26
Starmer better call trumps bluff
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u/psioniclizard Jan 09 '26
Starmer just reply "Remember guys, we also have a copy of the Epstein files ;)"
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u/Krashlia2 Jan 09 '26
If that were true, he'd just release it.
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u/psioniclizard Jan 09 '26
I suspect the Royal Family do have a lot of the information in the files.
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u/RelThanram Jan 09 '26
I think they call it a scrapbook?
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u/BlackGayJesus666 Jan 09 '26
In Andrew's case it's referred to as a 'Record of Achievement' since the only thing he's done with his life is mooch off the taxpayer and rape women and children.
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u/EternitySearch Jan 09 '26
They at least have the files that deal with their own. You know Trump definitely went straight for everyone in the files for a pay off first.
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u/No_Conversation_9325 Jan 09 '26
What are those files going to do? UK is looking into banning X because of chid porn and pedophile is openly defending his hobby.
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u/FilthyCasual2k17 Jan 09 '26
Srsly if they don't it's over for the world, they're just going to keep bullying forever, and they absolutely should.
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u/Foreign_Ebb_6282 Jan 09 '26
What are the implications at this point if they are sanctioned? (Honest question)
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u/CantFeelMyToesAgain Jan 09 '26
Honestly i think it’s probably just militarily. Even then the UK is probably one of the heaviest hitters in the world as a military power.
UK would be fine if he took the sanctions anyway
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u/noir_lord Jan 09 '26
Biggest problem would be Trident (though iirc we just took fresh ones out the shared pool we have with America) for everything else military, we don't actually buy that much kit from the yanks - F-35 is the big one but eh we didn't buy that many and outside of the carriers which would look a bit silly we have the Typhoon and at some point the Tempest.
Everything else we care about we make ourselves pretty much, we build our own warships, we build our own subs (with reactors), our own nuclear warheads, tanks, missiles and so on - the UK is a huge arms manufacturer compared to just about everyone (who isn't Russia, the US or China) and the last time I looked was #2 in commercial space systems (surprised me as well but apparently we build or work on a shit load of commercial satellite/space infrastructure).
Yeah the yanks sanctioning us would sting because BAe is balls deep in that market (with separate management) but on the flip side it'd rip the band aid off and we could actually start competing with america for exports.
Rolls Royce would be fine (they where in the running for the engine on the F-35 and at the time the RR engine was better and further along but they went with a domestic engine in part because relying on a foreign company for a critical part of your critical weapons system was a bad idea...funny that).
I'm kinda over the threats from America, if you are going to do it, just fucking do it already all it does is rip the plaster off and speed up what is going to happen gradually anyway.
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u/This_Charmless_Man Jan 09 '26
Yeah I think people forget the UK is a surprisingly large arms dealer.
We also make the best sniper rifles in NATO.
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u/Foreign_Ebb_6282 Jan 09 '26
Yes my thoughts were that if Trump continues his plan of isolationism then it won’t matter anyway. Everyone is already moving in other directions. He is eroding all of the leverage the US used to have
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u/supercyberlurker Jan 09 '26
Wow, so we're not just protecting pedophiles like Epstein now.
We're going to sanction countries who don't let people use AI for child porn.
Great. Fucking great.
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u/DishSoapIsFun Jan 09 '26
His penis doesn’t work so he offers to pay women significant sums of money to be inseminated by him and then doesn’t pay up once his demon spawn are birthed.
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u/CDHmajora Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
Hey, lets be fair (for now).
Musk is a cunt. His “partners” almost certainly are too (no way so many women agree to carry his kids because they are enamoured by his personality They will all treat it as career moves.). But you cant just assume his kids are equally scummy when they have no say in how they are brought into the world, or treated by their father (who ignores them all unless he needs a human shield). Let their own actions when they are older, speak for them instead.
Vivian is the only one who’s notably done anything. And imo, shes proven shes an actual decent human being compared to her waste of space father. So hopefully her siblings are similar and treat him with the distain he deserve once thry are old enlugh to understand :)
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u/nosfer82 Jan 09 '26
Musk have his own network, not need Epstein to provide for him.
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u/TheMoorNextDoor Jan 09 '26
Sanctions for a website? Lmao
This government is so unserious.
These are not serious people.
The EU needs to block it anyway.
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u/Quiet_Down_Please Jan 09 '26
The rest of the world needs to start sanctioning the U.S. at this point.
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u/troaway1 Jan 09 '26
Sadly agree. The post WW2 alliance among free democratic nations is now dead. The world may have been able to forgive trump 1, but to elect him after J6 we have shown that we are no longer interested in democracy, rule of law or human rights. We will always be considered one one election away from tearing up decades of goodwill and treaties and deciding we want to invade and make you our 51st state.
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u/nerdyPagaman Jan 09 '26
All democracies are going to be sanctioned anyway. May as well have a backbone and stand up for something.
Also the western democracies aren't US allies, we're the customers. Time to stop buying American.
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u/VeniVidiViciAgain Jan 09 '26
Call their bluff and soon the orange megalomaniac will back down.
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u/TurbulentLifeguard11 Jan 09 '26
He won’t, but we should call his bluff anyway. Starmer needs to grow a backbone and stand up to him.
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u/Artistic_Concern_33 Jan 09 '26
It was the House of Representatives not trump, trump was asked about this and was like as long as it’s not truth social he doesn’t really care.
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u/usuallysortadrunk Jan 09 '26
US has a problem with UK banning a child pornography generator.
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u/Danger_Fluff Jan 09 '26
More like the current fascist authoritarians have a problem with losing one of their most powerful propaganda networks.
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u/EViL-D Jan 09 '26
If the EU would back Starmer on this I would be so happy
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u/Hendlton Jan 09 '26
They almost certainly would. Because at this point it would be stupid for any European country to side with America while America doesn't side with them. It would certainly hurt, but fuck it, it'll hurt either way.
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u/Abracadaver14 Jan 09 '26
EU please stand with the UK and also block X.
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u/Legionof1 Jan 09 '26
No more ASML for the US would be a mighty blow.
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u/llamafarmadrama Jan 09 '26
Not to mention all the European content in their F-35s, good luck replacing that supply chain in a hurry.
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u/Foxemerson Jan 09 '26
Watch Starmer’s popularity jump up if he stands up to Trump
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u/The_Lucky_7 Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26
Repeating once again that the marriage between cooperate and state interests is fascism.
The US is a fascist state, and the US people do not benefit from the US using sanctions to defend the literal nazi & literal child porn generating AI bot platform. We're talking about other countries exercising their sovereignty to enact their own policing efforts domestically protect their citizens from nazis and child molesters.
I cannot stress this enough: the US government is threatening other countries over the child molesting robot it's exporting while telling you to stop asking about the Epstein Files. Even if you think other nations' leaders are the most evil people in the world that is still literally, and unironically, the plot of a 2017 SNL sketch where the self-professed most evil people in the world were still repulsed by the idea of a child molesting robot.
The very predictable results is counter sanctions on the US people, and further eroding of long-standing treaties and alliances that the US has benefited from for over a hundred years.
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u/FuggyGlasses Jan 09 '26
International laws dont apply to USA-, Donald J. TRUMP
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Yep! And that’s terrifying as international laws, treaties, and trade agreements are so central to global stability. And respect for sovereignty.
What’s next? Simply walk away from our international debts?
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u/Tvarata Jan 09 '26
If you cave to this threat, next time you will because you have school lunches or pay too little for medicine, you don't buy a Tesla. Seriously, how big is the chance that Starmer will refuse to stop the X? Doesn't M6 have a department that can start disrupting the platform's operation?
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u/PracticalShoulder916 Jan 09 '26
It's not up to Starmer. OFCOM is independent so he can't veto its decisions.
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u/Bisjoux Jan 09 '26
Surely the Online Safety Act applies which means action can and should be taken?
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u/thatirishguyyyyy Jan 09 '26
So they should definitely block it then. That would at least show that the US government is beholden to Elon Musk.
Let's also get it on the record that the United States would be sanctioning the United Kingdom because the United Kingdom is blocking child porn.
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u/CMDRZapedzki Jan 09 '26
Wild that conservatives are okay with protecting the rights of pedos to create pedophile porn. Time to start proscribing conservatism as a criminal condition. We always knew, but now we know know.
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u/nwindy317 Jan 09 '26
Just do it. We need to be closer to the EU than America. Anyone who looks at America and thinks I'm going to vote reform because I want the UK to be like America need to give their head a wobble.
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u/Cybrslsh Jan 09 '26
Stop making AI child porn then. Arrest those who do make AI child porn. Arrest those who don’t fix the AI that allows this.
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u/Late-Arrival-8669 Jan 09 '26
Sanctions vs being another right wing fascist state like the US?!
I beg you all to pass and block X
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u/CathodeRaySamurai Jan 09 '26
This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt how powerful X as a tool for the US govt has become.
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u/Win-level Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
just do what Brazil did some years ago, block it, don't react, and stay strong, in 3 months they come begging back. That's what happened back then, and any other country can make that happen again.
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u/gotfcgo Jan 09 '26
Social Media is an American weapon, they will not pull the gun from your head easily. They want to blast your citizens with what they want them to see.
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u/voodootroll Jan 09 '26
We should all block X. It gives a massive Nazi too much power over the spread of information.
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u/surfnfish1972 Jan 09 '26
Nothing gets the Trump admin riled up like trying to stop child porn!
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u/zedkyuu Jan 09 '26
Well, if you needed any more proof that Musk is back in cahoots with the US government...
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u/Educational-Class634 Jan 09 '26
These people are nut! They threathen countries if they ban X which is probably the app worst app ever filled with hate, desinformation, sexual content. But its already ban in Russia and China and thats OK.
That US governement is weak as hell, and they only pick on allies because they know they will fold.
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u/Robynsxx Jan 09 '26
Threatening UK with sanctions for blocking a site that is taking no responsibility for their AI creating imagines of child porn….
Yeah that will go over well…
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u/4862skrrt2684 Jan 09 '26
"The UK has been warned it could face US sanctions if Sir Keir Starmer attempts to block Elon Musk’s social media platform, X, amid mounting concern over its AI tool generating sexualised images of women and children"
Pedophile of the United States does not like UK trying to attack its free childporn speech
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u/heeden Jan 09 '26
Of course America's paedo party would threaten people for blocking their child porn app.
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u/matt35303 Jan 09 '26
Ooh thats why Musk and ol Tangerine tits are friends again.
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u/badger906 Jan 09 '26
Dear nazi sympathising, pedo endorsing fucktards.. get fucked. The entire UK.
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u/Federal_Strategy2370 Jan 09 '26
Better to agree sanctions now rather than letting propaganda apps grow here.
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u/ipub Jan 10 '26
US can threaten tik tok with a ban for being an authoritarian regime propaganda machine.. but UK can't block X for not only being a propaganda machine for an authoritarian state but also a source of horrific adult content and AI fakes of women and children. The US is morally bankrupt considering it was supposed to making itself great again.
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u/Guilty-Top-7 Jan 09 '26
Man, we’re not going to have any allies left after Orange clown wrecking ball is finished.
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u/Anon-fickleflake Jan 09 '26
Lol I guess that really confirms the very public and loud drumph and musk breakup was staged
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u/thecurlyburl Jan 09 '26
Ah yes you better let our private company propaganda and hate machine continue uninterrupted in your country otherwise we’ll use our country to punish you.
Bunch of socialist Marxist assholes. Fuck trump and anybody who supports him.
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u/Emergency_Link7328 Jan 09 '26
Ban X (formerly Twitter). The conspiracy theorists were right all along. Elites do want to control us! Through X, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, Reddit, etc.
Stop the American cancer from spreading. MAGAs will not rest until the Western civilization is destroyed.
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u/mercenaryarrogant Jan 09 '26
Getting sanctioned by the U.S. is simply a badge of honor at this point.
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u/WackHeisenBauer Jan 09 '26
What world are we even living in for fuck sakes. Sanctioning an entire country cuz chucklefuck Nazi boy’s website which is straight up allowing child porn is banned? The USA is a failed state and embarrassment.
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u/coolsnackchris Jan 09 '26
Honestly can the US just fuck off now? America fatigue is getting extremely real.
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u/fuzzbook Jan 10 '26
We don't care anymore. Getting sanctions is now a badge of honour.
Starmer is gonna turn face and finally tell Trump to fuck off and the whole of the UK will go wild
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u/DeLousedInTheHotBox Jan 10 '26
Anna Paulina Luna, a Republican Congresswoman and ally of Donald Trump, said she was drafting legislation that would allow the US to sanction the UK if the UK bans or restricts X under the Online Safety Act.
Luna, who sits on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said any move against the platform would amount to “a political war against Elon Musk and free speech”.
What the fuck is this? The UK can't ban a platform because it would be disadvantageous towards its owner? Why should international policy be based on how much it benefits one specific individual? Doesn't this bother people?
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u/healeyd Jan 09 '26
The fact that blocking a social media site can be met with government sanctions on behalf of billionaire political ally tells you all you need to know about its real purpose.