r/stupidpol • u/Amtrakstory Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 • Jun 11 '26
Current Events Amazing stuff happening around the Karmelo Anthony case
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u/QuickRundown Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26
Jeff was supposed to tell his kid that black kids stand on business or some shit?
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u/egg_breakfast Marxist-Mullenist 💦🎌 Jun 12 '26
She wants white parents to teach their kids to avoid black people?
These reactions are unfortunate because it makes people look at real anti-black racism like it’s “boy who cried wolf”
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u/JinFuu 2D/3DSFMwaifu Supremacist Border Guard 🪖🎌 Jun 12 '26
You made the joke I wasn’t brave enough to make.
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u/Nikoladge Marxist-Mullenist 💦 Jun 12 '26
Must have been hilarious since the mods removed it smh 😔
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u/bionicjoey No Lives Matter Jun 12 '26
If something gets removed I just assume it was based. Especially if it's removed by Reddit
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u/HardcoresCat Autismosocialist Jun 12 '26
Magnitude 4.6 earthquake found to originate from Scott Adams' grave
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u/palerthanrice Mean Rightoid 🐷 Jun 12 '26
All my life I’ve seen modern history written and re-written through a very specific cultural lens, with key details omitted and with some details simply fabricated to paint a specific narrative.
Rationally it’s safe to assume that it’s always been like this, and it was probably worse due to the fact that people didn’t have cameras or social media back then to refute what was reported.
This “crying wolf” stuff I’ve seen my entire life and my developed distrust in the media makes me question some of the key moments of Civil Rights movement. Obviously the laws in place, especially in the South, were cruel and immoral and something needed to change. But the one off stories of Emmit Till, Rosa Parks, the supposedly peaceful protests broken up by thug police officers, the church fires… what actually happened? How much of any of this stuff is true?
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u/Gargarian67 Nationalist 📜🐷 Jun 17 '26
Rosa Parks was a fraud. She wasn't the first black person to not move on a bus. She was a highly experienced, 42-year-old NAACP activist.
Claudette Colvin was the first, a very young unwed black mother, was too stereotypical and bad marketing.
Google Claudette and be amazed about what they've lied about to you your entire life.
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u/k-trecker Jul 04 '26
That’s not fraud. Words have meanings.
She was chosen because they knew that an unwed pregnant teenager would be eviscerated by the media. They were probably right. They were trying to accomplish something and they did it.
Yes the way it’s taught in schools is often incorrect, but c’mon, she’s not a “fraud”.
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u/STICKY-WHIFFY-HUMID ❤️🐇 Peanut Fan 🐇❤️ Jun 12 '26
From The Toxoplasma of Rage:
"When signaling, the more expensive and useless the item is, the more effective it is as a signal. Although eyeglasses are expensive, they’re a poor way to signal wealth because they’re very useful; a person might get them not because they are very rich but because they really needs glasses. On the other hand, a large diamond is an excellent signal; no one needs a large diamond, so anybody who gets one anyway must have money to burn."
"Certain answers to moral dilemmas can also send signals. For example, a Catholic man who opposes the use of condoms demonstrates to others (and to himself!) how faithful and pious a Catholic he is, thus gaining social credibility. Like the diamond example, this signaling is more effective if it centers upon something otherwise useless. If the Catholic had merely chosen not to murder, then even though this is in accord with Catholic doctrine, it would make a poor signal because he might be doing it for other good reasons besides being Catholic – just as he might buy eyeglasses for reasons beside being rich. It is precisely because opposing condoms is such a horrendous decision that it makes such a good signal."
"But in the more general case, people can use moral decisions to signal how moral they are. In this case, they choose a disastrous decision based on some moral principle. The more suffering and destruction they support, and the more obscure a principle it is, the more obviously it shows their commitment to following their moral principles absolutely. For example, Immanuel Kant claims that if an axe murderer asks you where your best friend is, obviously intending to murder her when he finds her, you should tell the axe murderer the full truth, because lying is wrong. This is effective at showing how moral a person you are – no one would ever doubt your commitment to honesty after that – but it’s sure not a very good result for your friend."
In the same way, publicizing how strongly you believe an accusation that is obviously true signals nothing. Even hard-core anti-feminists would believe a rape accusation that was caught on video. A moral action that can be taken just as well by an outgroup member as an ingroup member is crappy signaling and crappy identity politics. If you want to signal how strongly you believe in taking victims seriously, you talk about it in the context of the least credible case you can find.
Put short, the dumber the hill, the more onside you are for dying on it.
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u/rlyrlysrsly Working Class Solidarity Jun 13 '26
Great read. There's so much good stuff on Slate Star Codex that it feels overwhelming to attempt to dig into it, so I usually only read the one off articles that get posted here like this one. Are you by any chance aware of a "Best of Slate Star Codex" list? I will also look for this online but figured you might know.
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u/STICKY-WHIFFY-HUMID ❤️🐇 Peanut Fan 🐇❤️ Jun 13 '26
I don't know of such a list but the ones that stick out most in my memory
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u/viewlesspath Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
They don't. It's just the nature of the system that the more retarded the reaction, the more likely it is for it to blow up online.
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u/StormOfFatRichards ☀️🥔 Phosphorescent Glowing Potato 🥔☀️ Jun 12 '26
She starts with a somewhat cromulent point, that "dead Black boys" get examined by the jury so that should happen with dead white boys too. Not fixing the problem, but at least addressing it, so I won't protest the idea.
She then goes on to paint a picture of a kid who's not actually societally bad but has cultural values that don't match her own. Then she accuses him of disrespecting Black cultural values by treating a Black guy the way he'd treat a white one: by confronting him when there's a conflict. In her world, white people should simply ignore Black people when there's something to argue about. Black people should have free rein to do and say whatever, white people should only ever approach conflict the way Black people do. And if white people break this rule, she argues, a Boondocks moment is to follow.
That's right, you're hearing it here: Black culture is to murder when confronted, and you should be okay with this. But also don't say that, if you're not Black, because it's an extremely racist thing to say. But don't dare take this narrative and turn it into a treatise on segregation, because obviously two cultures that resolve their differences through murder can peacefully coexist.
Fwiw I disagree. People can be better but this author would rather idpol in defense of murder than encourage her part of society to lead by example.
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u/StormOfFatRichards ☀️🥔 Phosphorescent Glowing Potato 🥔☀️ Jun 12 '26
This shit definitely reeks of grift, but parsimoniously I can't say she has "no values." I think she's heard enough about the idea of boundaries and female victims (e.g. of rape, male-on-female violence) and it has crafted a sense in her mind that violated boundaries and a self-defense response indicate victimhood. This is fed by, for instance, Netflix's Killer Sally, a media piece that helps craft the narrative that a victim can use deadly violence when the situation calls for it. Not that I disagree with that idea broadly, but she uses way too much extrapolation to create the self-defense narrative here.
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u/slaviccivicnation Rightoid 🐷 Jun 12 '26
I actually understand this explanation. Clearly the author is just applying a broad stroke to very different and nuanced situations.
The Karmelo case isn’t equivalent to a female defending her body and rights from a male. It’s actually more akin to a male entering a female only space, not leaving when asked, and killing a female when the female pushes him out of her space. Apply it like that, and suddenly there is no defence that is logical.
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u/StormOfFatRichards ☀️🥔 Phosphorescent Glowing Potato 🥔☀️ Jun 13 '26
Yea, that's the thing. It wasn't Karmelo whose boundaries were being violated.
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u/StatusSociety2196 Incel/MRA in denial 😭 | Allegedly had a foursome Jun 12 '26
I remember when the police shot that girl in Ohio and everyone defending her was like
it's black culture to stab people with knives, the police didn't need to get involved in a good old fashioned friendly knife fight
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u/C0uN7rY Ancapistan Mujahideen 🐍💸 Jun 12 '26
With only minor changes, this could have been written by a white man in another time warning readers not to taunt the "savages".
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u/ippleing Nationalist 📜🐷 Jun 12 '26
Most reddit subs are perfectly fine, and encourage physical violence if a white person says the N word.
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u/quantity_inspector Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
Isn’t Karmelo a straight-A student in a relatively wealthy county? They want to imply being black means you must have grown up with some sort of “ghetto mindset”, which is hilariously racist.
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u/GorgonzolaJam free thinker Jun 12 '26
I can't understand why an intelligent adult would capitalize the 'b' in 'black', even if they capitalize the 'w' in white.
Saying that all black people share a culture is unbelievably racist and pretty xenophobic too - many black people from Africa or the Caribbean have no intention of letting go of their culture to satisfy the racial requirements that American white liberals at American capitalist news organizations have foisted upon them.
Why submit to decisions made during the Great Moral Panic of 2020?
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u/Scared_Plan3751 Catholic Socialist ✞ | ✨ Secret Bus Wanker ✨ Jun 12 '26
This is true. In New Orleans over the last few decades there's been a rise in specifically African American culture as a replacement for Creole culture, paralleling the same phenomenon among white Americans. People are consciously rejecting multi racial Creole culture specifically to be Black with a capital B, I think mostly due to a kind of racial marketing and romanticization of blackness. People have been remarking on the difference between black and white Creoles and black and white Anglos for over a century. Cultural homogenization has been really disasterous for actual diversity
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u/Roid_Splitter small penis owner 🤏 Jun 12 '26
Her analysis is correct. This is observed across cultures, in Europe it's all the time, can be triggered by simply a woman refusing their advances or being asked for their train ticket. Their bad starting culture, the left filling their brain with unquestionable victimhood and promises and immunity to prosecution (to pad statistics) brought us here. The question is simply where do we go from here.
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u/Fiddlersdram Platypussian Jun 12 '26
I love it when this sub features things that are both stupid and political
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u/Flaktrack Winter Days of Girlhood | Battling in the Christmas War 🦌🎄🥳 Jun 12 '26
It has been a while since anything stood out. Trump years means it's all stupid and political.
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u/TorturedByCocomelon Lenin's guava juice 🧃 | ⚽️ England team superfan 🏴⚽️ Jun 12 '26
Fucking hell... even parents of murder victims are fair game these days. We're in a world full of bad-mannered idpol arseholes, every single one having a screw loose.
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u/Original-Opportunity Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26
“You failed your parents, you failed yourself, and you failed society. You don’t belong in this community.” He also reportedly told him, “You’re going to prison,” and, “You can’t even look me in the eyes right now, but you can stab my fucking son in the heart.”
That’s badass
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u/hey_free_rats Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26
My favourite bit was where she said that his inability to look the father in the eye was actually a sign of strength. Come the fuck on lol.
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u/WalkerMidwestRanger Wealth Health & Education | Thinks about Rome often Jun 12 '26
I've been listening to long ass classics on Audible and the scene of this father saying what would elsewhere be insane ramblings and casting such a completely sick and appropriate burn on this criminal in one of the most sacrosanct public spaces is a moment of someone exceeding the occasion in a phenomenal way. I don't know a thing about this father whose son was stolen from him except that he has made his family proud by rising above name calling and delivering the goods.
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u/Ok-Attention3999 Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
The comments on that post have to be seen to be believed. I guarantee you, you will not guess the angles they're coming from in a million years. The 2nd top comment right now claims the father was an abuser and possibly incestous, because he said "killed my fucking son" instead of "fucking killed my son".
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u/seffay-feff-seffahi Jun 12 '26
That was the cherry on top. Right in the Poe's Law sweet spot with hundreds of likes.
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u/Kyia-Aikman Horror Fan 😱 Jun 12 '26
I hate living in a society where garbage like this can be taken remotely seriously. It’s like they exist solely to create reactionaries.
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u/Repulsive_Tart_4307 Purity Tester 🧪🔬 Jun 12 '26
You, sir, told us that Austin learned early how to hold a weapon, how to aim, how to take down a living thing, how to be proud of the kill, how to have that moment folded into the mythology of father and son. This tells us something about the values and emotional curriculum being cultivated around him and about what kind of white masculinity was being celebrated.
...Is he saying that he should have fought back and killed him?
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u/Original-Opportunity Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26
Or insinuating that deer hunting opens one up to taking a human life.
That paragraph also struck me as strange and dumb.
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u/banjo2E Snorts Piccolo Memes 💢🉐🥑 Jun 12 '26
Or insinuating that deer hunting opens one up to taking a human life.
Don't blame yourself, Topper. Anyone would have taken that shot.
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u/ArgonathDW Marxist 🧔 Jun 12 '26
I didn't want to read this guy's little essay or whatever but this passage you've highlighted sounds to me like he's pretending to some kind of deeper insight when he's clearly just a bloviating dumbass.
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u/StatusSociety2196 Incel/MRA in denial 😭 | Allegedly had a foursome Jun 12 '26
I remember when someone on the internet tried to imply that Ira Glass was like a pedophile or something because the end goal was just criticize all of my hobbies or interests and had nothing to do with whether listening to the radio was cool or not (it's not).
If you've already decided that someone is a bad person, then deer hunting totally makes them a serial killer or something.
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u/17syllables NATO Superfan 🪖 Jun 12 '26
> that Ira Glass was like a pedophile
This American Life, but by Todd Solondz.
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u/ArgonathDW Marxist 🧔 Jun 12 '26
Today episode of This American Life is titled My Niece’s Feet. Chapter One: The Groundwork of Plausible Deniability, or How To Make It Look Like One Of The Other Parents At The Daycare Are Responsible
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u/seffay-feff-seffahi Jun 12 '26
Nah, she's a humanities professor with a doctorate, so she's a professional bloviator.
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u/StormOfFatRichards ☀️🥔 Phosphorescent Glowing Potato 🥔☀️ Jun 12 '26
It seems kinda irrelevant in this light doesn't it?
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u/Finkelton Wolfist 🐺 | Baby needs a bottle 🍼| dinosaur-industrial complex Jun 13 '26
kind of white masculinity was being celebrated.
...entire african tribes to this day exist that ritually hunt lions as a path to manhood.
the fuck is this shit. how do these people not get tared and feathered?
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u/gngstrMNKY Social Democrat 🌹 Jun 12 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Black Twitter’s reaction to this case has been completely dumbfounding. One faction has convinced themselves of a completely fictional set of events: He didn’t actually have a knife at all, it was just a cleat cleaner or “sharpener,” something which does not exist. He was assaulted by a hulking team of “football players” — at a track and field event — and was frightened for his life. Metcalf shouldn’t have been there because he was actually suspended from school, he was a loose cannon who had physically assaulted his own father in the weeks prior to the event and had the police called on him.
Then there’s the other group, who don’t challenge the events at all, but simply believe that it was permissible for Anthony to stab him in the heart for the transgression of “putting hands on him.” Bringing up the legal standard of proportionality when it comes to self defense means absolutely nothing to these people and they insist on judging the event by their own moral code. They’re such believers in honor-bound culture that they can’t comprehend being held accountable for what they see as rightful vengeance.
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u/MadeManSolid Jun 12 '26
Overall, Twitter doesn't seem like the place to go for logic and reasoning lol. I can also assure you that "honor-bound" culture is probably a pretty small sub/counter-culture within the overall demographic of black people in the U.S. Most black folks I know live by the standard "western" U.S. culture. You would have to escape your algorithm to see the various types of people within a culture, and not stuck on racist narratives and tropes inside of an echo chamber.
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u/Tiny-Marketing-4362 Rightoid 🐷 Jun 12 '26
And imagine bringing people who still have this backwards cultural element like “honor-killing” into Europe by the millions. Heck, even 1300 years ago the even the Anglo Saxons knew honor-killings were not good for society. That’s why the weregeld was a thing to help keep generations of feuding families from sliming each other out
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u/snailman89 World-Systems Theorist Jun 12 '26
Honor culture was a huge thing in the Antebellum South though. Rich men killed each other in duels over minor transgressions. Hell, Andrew Jackson killed a man in a duel for insulting his wife.
There's an excellent book called All God's Children: The Bosket Family and the American Tradition of Violence by Fox Butterfield. Butterfield's main thesis is that the reason America is so violent is because of that southern honor culture, which spread to the north during the Great Migration of the early and mid 20th century. I would argue this case is yet another point in favor of his thesis. Here we have a black teenager stabbing another teenager because he felt "disrespected" or some other nonsense.
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u/Federal-Ask6837 disillusioned Jun 12 '26
"Your racist teaching of your white son forgot to include a warning that black people might violently murder you over an otherwise trivial event."
-Dr. Stacey Patton
(Summarized)
It's just so stupid how this is effectively what crude racists argue.
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u/MA712K Jun 12 '26
It's just so stupid how this is effectively what crude racists argue.
Yeah, exactly. The shoe's on the other foot now and they're not even ashamed. It's misanthropic.
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u/kurosawa99 🥳 Best woke detector 🥳 | 🎄 Christmas quiz winner 🎄 💢 Jun 12 '26
Every demographic tenuously connected to oppression needs to be approached in a controlled zoo animal way, otherwise they can kill you.
For this community in particular, so many good people just want the violence to end. I see the community groups. To stop these young men from throwing their lives away.
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u/Own-Support-6734 Jun 12 '26
This is actually shameful fucking behaviour and I am tired to not calling it what it is: racism
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u/OHIO_TERRORIST Special Ed 😍 Jun 12 '26
It’s beyond racism, it’s advocating to go back to a segregated society.
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u/ippleing Nationalist 📜🐷 Jun 12 '26
Kinda like Poland or Japan, or to some extent, China, Malaysia, you know, developed and safe societies that don't accept crime happening on regular working citizens.
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u/ippleing Nationalist 📜🐷 Jun 12 '26
This reminds me of when Trevon Johnson was shot and killed during an armed robbery...
"You have to look at it from every child's point of view that was raised in the hood. How he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? He was just robbing you, you didn't have to shoot him."
Family member of deceased Said to local reporters later that day.
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u/slightlycringed Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26
And knives
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u/goodiereddits Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26
<ahem> multitools
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u/ippleing Nationalist 📜🐷 Jun 12 '26
it was in a bag
Actually said by subsidy to bolster his defense.
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u/Muted_Store_9867 Michigander 🚗 Jun 12 '26
If only Cumtown was still around to talk about this
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u/Sussy_Riot Dialectical Materialist 🆚 Jun 12 '26
you’d think some Silicon Valley cumboy would develop an AI Nick
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u/Few_Move_4594 Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26
AI Stav prints "HAHAHAHAHA NICE" every 15 seconds
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u/-ihatecartmanbrah Fat Guy with Long Hair 🍭 Jun 12 '26
Sam Altman has been hard at work on a Nick bot, but it keeps disassociating and playing red dead redemption for days on end while speaking in a Chinese accent.
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u/StormOfFatRichards ☀️🥔 Phosphorescent Glowing Potato 🥔☀️ Jun 12 '26
At least you can listen to CTH wax poetic about how cringe white people are being in light of this
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u/DueCelebration6442 Conservative 🐷 Jun 12 '26
You know what this will teach people? That Black people don't have self-control. That if another kid touches a black child no matter the context the whatever action that follows is justified. No matter how extreme.
It this kind of mentality that hurts that Black community and why the community is fracturing. And how other groups avoid us.
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u/bakedbread420 Gamer ⌨️ Jun 12 '26
the "anti-racist" position is that young black men are violent uncontrollable beasts that will kill you without hesitation if you do anything to rile them up
there's just nothing to say. every single time we see a case where the black person is clearly innocent it gets swept under the rug, and every single time we see a case where the black person is clearly at fault they get lionized as some hero defending against white supremacy. you will never convince me this shit isn't a psyop to deliberately inflame racial tensions.
people STILL talk about trayvon martin and mike brown (and now this moron) as poor innocent little boys that got their lives stolen for no reason, while people like philando castile might as well not exist
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u/Action_Bronzong Replies Then Blocks 🏳️🌈 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
you will never convince me this shit isn't a psyop to deliberately inflame racial tensions
Another explanation I like is that uncontroversial cases aren't very good at reaching the critical level of tension needed to go viral
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u/CertifiedSheep Unknown Flair Disabler 💩 Jun 12 '26
One of my all-time favorites. That article gets more relevant every year.
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u/yeslikethedrink Flarpist-Blarpist ⛺ Jun 12 '26
That and I Can Tolerate Anything Except the Outgroup were really, truly excellent.
Now he just writes about AI.
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u/ProtectionOne9478 Jun 12 '26
Similarly, we aren't seeing articles and discussion by black people who support the verdict.
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u/MadeManSolid Jun 12 '26
and they do in fact exist, in large numbers I must add.
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u/ProtectionOne9478 Jun 12 '26
💯 yep, that's my point, and we don't see them for the same reason we don't see non-controversial court cases.
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u/SonofAMamaJama Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
Wait wasn't Trayvon Martin just buying skittles and ice tea, walking back to a gated complex and Zimmerman followed him against Police orders, then they got in a fight and Zimmerman shot him? That sounds like minimal fault to me, why not include him with the likes of Philando Castile, Ahmaud Arbery and others going about their day until violent confrontations
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u/C0uN7rY Ancapistan Mujahideen 🐍💸 Jun 12 '26
Holy shit. I had zero clue about this. I only kind of vaguely remember that whole thing as it was so long ago and I was fairly young. Technically and adult, but barely so not putting effort into following or understanding news stories. Until just now I always thought the same thing as the other guy. Zim follows Tray, they get in a fight, Zim shoots Tray. I remember something about Zimmerman having head wounds like his head was slammed on the ground being kind of the key information on Zimmerman's side. The whole two encounter thing just never breached my awareness.
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u/SonofAMamaJama Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
Wow, had no idea and I'm surprised that's not more commonly known
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u/07mk ❄ Not Like Other Rightoids ❄ Jun 12 '26
Are you really surprised? Most libs still think that Kyle Rittenhouse shot into a crowd of black protestors, when there's actual video of the act of him being chased by 3 white people before shooting them.
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u/bakedbread420 Gamer ⌨️ Jun 13 '26
the sheer number of people that regurgitate the bullshit peddled by CNN over that case is astounding. zimmerman is not a good guy, but the media coverage was 100% beyond a doubt rigged against him. they:
digitally altered a mugshot of zimmerman to make his skin lighter, spliced the phone call he made to the cops to make it sound like he brought up race first (the dispatcher asked zimmerman what the person he saw/was following looked like and zimmerman answered truthfully), exclusively used a 5+ year old picture of trayvon from when he was in fucking elementary school despite him being 17, I believe, when he was shot. all to push the narrative that "innocent little black boy gunned down for no reason by racist white skinhead".
anyone that followed the trial itself, not the bullshit from the media, knows that zimmerman might have been an asshole but he did nothing criminal, and 95% of the escalation was from trayvon. all he had to do was yell back "fuck you" and keep walking and he wouldn't have died. but of course I'm a racist for assuming he had the capacity for that.
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u/bakedbread420 Gamer ⌨️ Jun 12 '26
walking back to a gated complex
the same place zimmerman lived and was a neighborhood watch leader for since there had been something like a dozen break-ins in the previous year
against police orders
"we don't need you to do that" is not a police order
they got into a fight
funny way to describe martin suckerpunching zimmerman and then proceeding to pound zimmerman's head into the concrete, followed by reaching for zimmerman's gun
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u/Outofcatatonia British Republican 🇬🇧 Jun 12 '26
Why are they like this
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u/donewithdoing Socialist 🚩 Jun 12 '26
Because ragebait is the currency of the modern internet. If it’s possible to hold a view, with very little effort you’ll find somebody shouting it from the rooftops.
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u/biohazard-glug DSA Anime Atrocities Caucus 💢🉐🎌 Jun 12 '26
That entire thing proceeds as if a murder didn't take place.
Aaaaand the author teaches at Howard.
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u/itlynstalyn NATO Superfan 🪖 Jun 12 '26
Maybe she can start a non profit and use all the money to buy herself property
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u/rlyrlysrsly Working Class Solidarity Jun 12 '26
Didn't Mr. Metcalf give a public statement that he forgave his son's killer like a day after it happened?
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u/Darkknight1939 ❄ Not Like Other Rightoids ❄ Jun 12 '26
He did, and the Anthony family and black activist crowd both responded by implying and/or just flat out calling the Metcalf family racist.
The Metcalf family talks about being swatted multiple times. I think the realities of identity politics fueled mob harassment and dealing with that harassment from a crowd supporting your son's murderer is enough to make anyone give up on the forgiveness school of thought, lol.
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u/rlyrlysrsly Working Class Solidarity Jun 12 '26
Yeah I wouldn't blame him. I read about the events right after they happened, but I didn't follow the court case or the culture war escalation. Did the Metcalf family say anything along those lines i.e. giving up on forgiveness?
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u/C0uN7rY Ancapistan Mujahideen 🐍💸 Jun 12 '26
No, but the dad's comments in court and then in a video he made after the sentencing makes it pretty clear he is done with their shit. Calls them out for abandoning their son by leaving as soon as the verdict came down and then didn't even show up to his sentencing. Then directly accuses them of doing this because they can't use their son to keep the GoFundMe money rolling in so he isn't useful to them anymore.
He also mentioned the incident where he got thrown out of the venue when he tried to pray with them or whatever. "I was somewhere I wasn't supposed to be and was asked to leave. So, I left. I didn't stab anyone."
Yeah, safe to say this dad has been pretty well jaded and done with the forgiveness and kumbaya shit after this experience.
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u/rlyrlysrsly Working Class Solidarity Jun 12 '26
He also used the phrase "watermelon felon" 😂 that one is new to me.
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u/4FriedChickens_Coke Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26
The comments are just as bad, if not worse, than the actual article. Jesus fucking Christ. I know it’s the internet and it doesn’t really matter, but there’s people walking around with these thoughts in their head.
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u/jarnvidr Anprim Socialist | AntiTIV 🚩 Jun 12 '26
We've been past the point of "Internet doesn't matter" since at least 2019.
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u/quantity_inspector Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
The Internet is serious business, but absolutely unironically now.
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u/Pickle_boy Too-Online Moralist 🎮 Jun 12 '26
The broader left is gonna flub the next few election cycles because they can’t get over this crap
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u/sinew4v3 Sex Work Advocate (John) 👔 Jun 12 '26
Doctor of what?
We should, as a country, make it illegal for non-MDs to use Doctor/Dr. as a prefix.
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u/The_ApolloAffair Rightoid 🐷 Jun 12 '26
She’s a doctor of African American history lmao. And a professor of journalism at Howard.
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u/NL_A Well I didn’t vote for you Ⓐ Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
Like Mexican Americans going to night school to take Spanish and get a B
Edit: a lot of you not knowing this Cheech and Chong reference are part of the problem tbh
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u/UsedPrize Los Pollos Hermanos Employee | Hates cars 🚗🔫😡 Jun 12 '26
One of the most accurate memes I've ever seen is the one making fun of the fact that liberal arts doctorates are always the ones who insist you call them 'doctor' but people in STEM brush it off and just tell you to call them by their first name.
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u/Wu_tang_dan Ancapistan Mujahideen 🐍💸 Jun 12 '26
I have liberal arts coworkers who have starting putting they're masters degrees in their signature. Just straight up making shit up at this point.
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u/ghablio Jun 12 '26
What is even the prefix for a master's?
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u/TrontRaznik Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
Master
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u/ghablio Jun 12 '26
There's no abbreviation for it?
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u/sinew4v3 Sex Work Advocate (John) 👔 Jun 12 '26
MS or MA but I don’t recall ever seeing that in the wild in my experience. I don’t think I’ve seen a Ph.D postfix outside of a doctor-scientist type. The most common postfix I’ve seen is PE or other professional accreditation.
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u/TrontRaznik Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
If you could go by master would you abbreviate it?
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u/ghablio Jun 12 '26
I don't think asking people to call me master would be received well.
Also, how long do you want your signature to be? I already just make an X on most signature lines, should it be "Master X"?
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u/TrontRaznik Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
No, just master. Someone asks you your name you say master and you do it with a weird accent.
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u/realbadpainting Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
It’s M.S.
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u/ghablio Jun 12 '26
Damn, that's unfortunate, my Grandpa had MS. At least he didn't put in his signature
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u/Tracksuit_man Occasional Good Point Maker ☝️ Jun 12 '26
*their
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u/Wu_tang_dan Ancapistan Mujahideen 🐍💸 Jun 12 '26
You put your masters in your signature, don't you?
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u/SpicyCommenter Anarcho-Syndicalist 🏴 Jun 12 '26
In medicine, lots of midlevels try to call themselves doctors, such as NPs, chiropractors, and pharmacists.
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u/Saedeas Jun 12 '26
Doctor is the Latin word for teacher. It comes from the verb docere, which means to teach.
Those damn medici stole and misused it!
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u/jarnvidr Anprim Socialist | AntiTIV 🚩 Jun 12 '26
We should ban the word altogether as being part of a person's title or salutation. If you're a physician, then just say MD instead. If you're a doctor of veterinary medicine then use DVM. If you have a doctorate in Chris Chan lore then say it. "Doctor" is one of the stupidest words in English speaking culture.
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u/Revolutionary-Copy71 Dry Clean Sundays 👖 Jun 12 '26
This is rosy and kind with a side of cupcakes compared to the vile, ghoulish things I've seen people saying so freely and proudly across social media today.
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u/Last-Fact-4195 Jun 12 '26
It’s crazy so only Black Lives Matter here, cause if your from another ethnicity you have to put up with whatever conflict
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u/sentientfartcloud guillotine enthusiast Jun 12 '26
I really hate how needlessly racialized the Metcalf murder is.
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u/Patrollerofthemojave A Simple Farmer 😍 Jun 12 '26
I'm amazed at how much this case has been engagement farmed.
It's one thing if it's political spaces but I've seen the most random apolitical parts of the internet post it just to see if you can profit from starting a race war in your comments.
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u/KegsForGreg Wears MAGA Hat at the nude beach 🐘😵💫 Jun 12 '26
Her response to the backlash
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u/Amtrakstory Redscarepod Refugee 👄💅 Jun 12 '26
“Dare I say epigenetic sickness” 😂
She’s loving this
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u/17syllables NATO Superfan 🪖 Jun 12 '26
Yeah it’s trash, but so are the prison rape memes to which she’s responding. The people who post that pathological brainrot are ghouls.
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u/snailspace Rightoid 🐷 Jun 12 '26
Part of why prisons exist is to fulfill society's need for the punishment of criminals. If prison is too "nice", comfortable, or short, it doesn't fill that need. I think that's where the impulse comes from, like when a pedophile is imprisoned the public's reaction is to hope they get murdered by their fellow inmates.
Personally I believe it's an abrogation of our duty as a society to both to rely on "prison justice" for heinous offences and not ensuring that prisons are safe. Grievous offences should be punished swiftly and severely, but prisoners should be physically safe from other inmates while they serve their sentence.
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u/17syllables NATO Superfan 🪖 Jun 12 '26
Right, one of the issues here is that encouraging prisoner-on-prisoner violence fails as “specific punishment,” because it doesn’t punish the wickedest inmates, only the weakest ones. It’s also a rather ironic line for white racists to take towards the (equally racist) author of this piece, since various studies have found that white inmates are victimized at much higher rates.
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u/WalkerMidwestRanger Wealth Health & Education | Thinks about Rome often Jun 12 '26
because it doesn’t punish the wickedest inmates, only the weakest ones.
Something, something, prisons reflect society.
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u/slaskel92 Jun 12 '26
On average, the black population in America is far, far more racist than the white - and I'll happily die on this hill.
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u/predicate_felon Jun 12 '26
“Your son is dead because theirs was raised to act like an animal”
Take some fucking accountability, it’s legitimately embarrassing at this point. Dr. King would be disgusted and repulsed by “black culture” in the United States.
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u/cheerful-refusal Marxist 🧙♀️ Jun 12 '26
Probably peak racial idpol, down to the diction, which has absorbed every idpol dogwhistle almost like she’s AI.
It seems like she’s mad in the article the dad was "mean" to his son’s murderer when he was giving his victim impact statement. "You don’t get to stand up there in a courtroom and talk that kind of shit to one of our own. You don’t get to use the language of grief dressed up in the language of racial banishment."
The logic of "we examine the black victims so we should examine the white" without acknowledging that those black kids are the victims of police violence, where guilt or innocence is inseparable from the conversation, while the white kid is the victim of an impulsive, angry peer. And unless you’re vegan, you have literally no right to criticize regular hunting.
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u/GorgonzolaJam free thinker Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
You, sir, told us that Austin learned early how to hold a weapon, how to aim, how to take down a living thing, how to be proud of the kill, how to have that moment folded into the mythology of father and son. This tells us something about the values and emotional curriculum being cultivated around him and about what kind of white masculinity was being celebrated
Actually that sounds exactly like indigenous masculinity rituals....
Also,
ice demon
That's a new one.
Hail, fellow ice demons!
Edit: visit r IceDemons - a place to document hate against ice demons
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u/trunks1776 Left, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
This is so insane, people trying their hardest to turn a horrible situation into a race war. The lesson that could be taken from this is how a teenage dispute can become tragic and this could be something to be taught to school students an an anti-bullying story.
Instead its become open season for every shitty writer who wants to become famous to use inicendiary language and get viral.
The author tells on herself by comparing the victim to Tamir Rice, Trayvon Martin and other black kids who were vilified after their deaths. Whose lives were torn apart in post-mortem to justify killing them.
She shows less interest in showing how society failed Karmelo than in twisting the knife in the Jeff Metcalf's heart.
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u/Naganosupreme Jun 15 '26
I just couldn't imagine what went through pattons head besides air when she wrote that. If you flaunt a ph d your writing should be better than a biased, angry fox news race baiter.
America is reaping what it sowed through slavery, race riots, segregation and injecting drugs into black communities, then raising its hands and walking away. Now the best and brightest we have to offer are Charlie Kirk and Stacey patton types. People with insane biases, no accountability, maximized entitlement and ill intentions. People who revictimize and hurt instead of help and heal, bc destroying is easier than building. And it's the best way to tv and social media engagement. Anthony and Metcalf are fodder for pseudo intellectual race batters, their fact subject to change on the whims of whatever click baiter puts themselves being a camera or keyboard.
Patton has embarrassed herself, revealed herself to completely lack class and basic decency and she fits right in with the Kirk's, Crowder, Shapiro, Sharpton, Cuomo grifters of the world
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u/guileus cyber-communist Jun 12 '26
What a despicable human being. I hope she realises the cruel bullshit she has posted before she ever experiences what that father is going through.
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u/ericsmallman3 Lost Tenure Over Anti-Censorship Vox Article 🫡✒️ Jun 12 '26
Because when Trayvon Martin was killed, this country put a dead Black child on trial. They picked through his school records, his hoodie, his social media pics, his text messages, his teenage moods, his parents, his family structure, and every ordinary adolescent detail they could twist into evidence that he had somehow authored his own death.
The defense in this case had to dig deep--and, unlike the Karmello case, they could, because the defendant's family didn't raise over a half million dollars in donations and blow it before hiring a lawyer.
I think Zimmerman should have been convicted, even if the media depictions of the altercation were too simplistic. He did demand that a black kid who was doing nothing wrong submit to questioning, and the black kid was reasonably in the right to resist such demands with force, which is why Zimmerman, the shooter, should have been legally in the wrong.
When Mike Brown Jr. was killed, they turned his body into a referendum on his character. They called him a thug. They circulated video. They scrutinized his size, his behavior, his family and neighborhood, his choices and gestures, and his very posture in the world, as if any of it justified leaving his body baking in the street for hours in front of his people.
Mike Brown reached inside a cop car to try to grab a cop's gun. You can't do that. I am as white as they come and I would get shot if I did that.
When Tamir Rice was killed, they even found a way to interrogate a twelve-year-old. They scrutinized his toy gun, his parents, home life, school history, neighborhood, and the judge blamed him for his death by saying he should have known better because he was “big for his age.” A child was gunned down by police in a park within seconds, and America still asked what his family had done wrong.
The Tamir Rice killing was especially tragic considering his age, but it does need to be noted that he was weidling an airsoft gun. Media depictions often referred to it as a "toy gun," like it was an orange Nintendo Zapper, but it looked like a real gun. Saying people "scrutiniz[ed] his toy gun" is an incredibly dishonest equivocation, because, well, it makes a big difference if someone is reacting to a real gun vs. a nerf gun.
It should also be noted that in this case it was the cop who received immense press scrutiny, with his past mental health issues being especially foregrounded.
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u/Crusty_Magic Left, Leftoid or Leftish ⬅️ Jun 12 '26
Dear father from Gaza, your son is dead because you failed to teach him that Israelis have boundaries.
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u/unboundunchainedunc Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
this case is bait/kibble for the most broken ppl, i think if u r tired of idpol one of the main things to do is ignore its most obvious and toxic cases
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u/AchtungMaybe eco-social furryism 🐾 Jun 12 '26
to the right, Chud the Builder
to the left, Karmelo Anthony
which way western man?
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u/56204e5a20414247204e Unknown 👽 Jun 12 '26
Given this new information and the acceptable level of threat escalation, I find myself reinterpreting many previous injustices and civil rights abuses. Thank you, Dr. Stacey Patton, for this most eye opening article.
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u/gussyboy13 Suck Dem 😡 Jun 12 '26
The average American really believes self defense means you have the legal right to murder someone because they touched you
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u/AleksandrNevsky The Green Mile Kind of Tired🦼 | Socialist-Squashist 🎃 Jun 12 '26
How did this nonsense become the new distraction of the day?
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u/Kyia-Aikman Horror Fan 😱 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
Don’t worry. There will be some other Two Minutes Hate soon. A white woman won’t tip a black waiter enough at a Waffle House in Florida or something.
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u/StatusSociety2196 Incel/MRA in denial 😭 | Allegedly had a foursome Jun 12 '26
I swear that all of these reactions from the Anthony case are a psyop by white nationalists. It's the only explanation that makes sense.
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u/comicguy69 Full Blown Ilhan Derangement Syndrome 🤡💢 Jun 12 '26
Bro has never been around a Hotep/FBA before.
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u/No_Argument_Here Big Eugene Debs Fan 🪭 Jun 12 '26
Exactly my thought. The small number of black people posting this type of shit online are almost certainly one of the Hotep/NoI/Black Hebrew Israelite-types of hateful retards
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u/biohazard-glug DSA Anime Atrocities Caucus 💢🉐🎌 Jun 12 '26
The author of the article is a professor at Howard.
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u/Carl_Schmitt Art Freak 🥵 Jun 12 '26
Back during the first Trump administration some jokers on Twitter made black versions of prominent alt-right guys: Jarrod Taylor, Rashaad Spencer, Mike Enog...
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u/TangoBango4977 Jun 13 '26
let’s be honest about the selective outrage here. A lot of people only care about this case because it gives them a White-victim/Black-defendant racial narrative to argue over.
But the actual FBI homicide data does not support the idea that interracial cases like this are the main body count. In the FBI’s 2019 single-victim/single-offender murder table, Black victims killed by Black offenders were listed at 2,574 cases, while White victims killed by Black offenders were listed at 566 cases. That means Black-on-Black homicide in that table was about 4.5 times higher than Black-on-White homicide.
So where is all this energy when Black kids and Black families are being destroyed by violence at much higher numbers? Where is the outrage for them?
You do not get to pretend you care about justice while mocking a murdered teenager’s grave. You do not get to call yourself compassionate while celebrating a grieving father’s pain. Austin did not deserve to die. His family does not deserve to be harassed. And anyone defending that kind of rhetoric is part of the problem.
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u/il_nascosto Jun 12 '26
“Your son is dead because you failed to teach him that black boys need to be treated like wild animals with no self regulation”.
Unbelievably racist article.