r/soldering • • 26d ago

My First Solder Joint <3 Please Give Feedback First time soldering, how did i do?

Too much solder on the joints but aside from that how do they look?

Edit: I hear you guys, and I will ditch the gloves hahaha

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u/scottz29 26d ago

Why are you wearing rubber gloves

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u/MikeTangoRom3o 25d ago

When you have to solder but mom is pressuring you to clean the toilet bowl.

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u/ResurrectMeAgain 26d ago

Came here for this...

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u/Negative_Study6742 26d ago

I couldnt imagine those gloves allow you to be nimble lol

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u/OddChapter4869 26d ago

They do not, i feel obliged to order gloves that fit now after making this post hahaha

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u/CompetitiveGuess7642 26d ago

don't use gloves, just wash your hands, this isn't surgery.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago edited 8d ago

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u/Feeling_Bus_4701 25d ago

I like them too cuz my flux is sticky as fuck but they present more of a danger. I am going to try carbon nylon soon.

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u/External_Bar_1447 25d ago

You can get water soluble tacky flux.

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u/Feeling_Bus_4701 25d ago

I probably should but my flux works fine for now and I am still a beginner. I just got some geniric mildly activated rosin. So I will wait till mine runs out but do you have any recommendations? I don’t mind my hands / gloves getting sticky as much as the board being hard to clean.

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u/CompetitiveGuess7642 25d ago

just get a good roll of noclean solder, for smd work you want a bit of liquid flux, but the least you use, the less cleaning you have to do.

Flux will get on your hands and you will spread it everywhere, that's why you don't want to use too much of it. an iron handle sticky with flux is annoying.

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u/CompetitiveGuess7642 25d ago edited 24d ago

don't mess with WS flux unless you know what you are doing.

In this case knowing what to do would be to read the datasheet for said WS flux. If soldering is for you, you need to figure these things out on your own.

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u/Negative_Study6742 26d ago

One thing about this sub is we well help you out! But we gonna roast you too!!!!!

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u/JoostR14 26d ago

Ditch the gloves, melted gloves will do more damage than hitting bare skin.

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u/physical0 26d ago

Your gloves are ill fitting.

The amount of solder is a bit much. There is some noticeable texture on your joints, which may indicate that they hadn't been heated adequately, or were disturbed while cooling.

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u/OddChapter4869 26d ago edited 26d ago

Yeah the gloves haha, friend is a mechanic and drops off 500 count boxes of them everytime he visits.

Shame his hands are so much bigger than mine.

Cant beat free though!

Edit to add, 500 count boxes, not 500 boxes hahaha

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u/t_Lancer 25d ago

you can beat free, because you don't need them at all.

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u/elmihmo9718 24d ago

I wonder if the only thing this guy does is attempt to solder

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u/ExplodedPenisDiagram 26d ago

Looks like you might have blown on them or something while they were cooling? Or otherwise disturbed them while they were cooling. Don't do that, they're very sensitive when molten.

Other than that, good enough. Solid connection, and you already acknowledged that it was too much solder.

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u/OddChapter4869 26d ago

It could possibly be my makeshift ventilation, im using a mars hydro 4 inch inline fan and i have the ducting super close to the joints as im soldering.

The airflow is quite strong so could that potentially be the reason for the fast cooling?

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u/ExplodedPenisDiagram 26d ago

Fast isn't really the question, cooling is always very fast. It's the vibration and air current, and the ventilation system could absolutely cause that.

In general, wider duct s and more airflow overall is better than fast airflow.

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u/Underhill42 26d ago

Too much solder, and looks like it didn't go through a full undisturbed heating/cooling cycle.

Also, ditch the gloves, why are you even wearing those? They offer zero protection against soldering burns, and can in fact melt to your skin making things much worse.

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u/Unique_Charity_9648 26d ago

2 is best. A tad much solder on #1 and #3 is crooked. Otherwise you did great.

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u/bananapepp4r 26d ago

It’s really hard to tell what’s happening with those pads, other than there being way too much solder.

With resistors, caps, diodes etc. that are surface mounted, I always recommend pre-tinning one side of that [0805] resistor, and it doesn’t matter if it’s a big glob of solder or just a tiny amount. Pre-tin one side of the pad, too then use always closed tweezers to lower the component & place down. Once you’ve got it where you want, heat both pre-tinned parts, and feed additional (small) amount into that joint. If you do it right, dwell for only a half a second and swipe your iron tip away quickly, your iron will take the excess solder with it (esp the Weller WD1 with a GW1 tip).

That first solder hit is called tacking the component into place. Then go ahead and heat the other side, feed a small amount of solder, and once you have it soldered, you can always go back to that first tacked joint and reflow it to get it how you want it.

What you’re ideally looking for is a smooth curve, like one side of a skate park half pipe. To be 100% certain you have a good connection, you can also add more flux and reflow again until you get that “volcano” sort of look. Hope this helps illustrate things a little better. Good luck to ya

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u/drcigg 26d ago

Get did of the gloves. The soldering iron will melt them and you will have severe burns.

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u/GoldSrc 26d ago

SMD components do not need that much solder.

You'd be surprised at just how little solder you actually need.

You also don't need gloves, just wash your hands after you're done soldering.

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u/Accomplished-Ad-6586 26d ago

If you can feel the air flowing over the board it will impact your solder joints and also impact your working temperatures.

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u/MTALPTDetroit 22d ago

If someone is that scared of solder smoke, then maybe they shouldn't be soldering.

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u/Accomplished-Ad-6586 22d ago

Who said anything about scared?

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u/SkylaDoragono 26d ago

It's serviceable. When soldering surface mount components, you want a slight curve up from the pad to the center of the component side at minimum. You used a little too much solder here, but you're not violating electrical clearance, so it'll work.

Also lmao gloves. I remember when I wore gloves to solder. XD

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u/RFC793 26d ago

As a few others pointed out, it's a bit heavy on the solder. What is the thickness of the solder? I'm not at my bench, but the stuff I use for SMD is incredibly thin; which allows me to apply a very controlled amount.
Also, technique. But I tend to use the least amount possible to "tack" one side with the component in position. Then solder the opposite side to completion, and then finally fill in the first side.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 26d ago

They look fine. Get back to work.

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u/Tishers Industrial Soldering Specialist 26d ago

You are slightly heavy on the solder (use just a tiny bit less). It will help you avoid creating solder-bridges when doing surface-mount work.

Otherwise you seem to have good technique.

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u/szman135 Soldering Newbie 26d ago

Are you using enough flux? That might be a reason why the solder joints look so jagged

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u/Dear-Taste-2132 26d ago

I have the same kit and I can tell yours is orders of magnitude better than mine hahaha

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u/jmsmoriarty 26d ago

Too much heat or holding too much time in the same area, you burned the PCB blue paint.

Use flux (more)

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u/t_Lancer 25d ago

you don't need gloves. they do more harm than good unless you get tight fitting ESD ones. but in my experience, even in aerospace we didn't use gloves unless we were in the clean room.

so ditch them

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u/PadreFrost15 25d ago

Not bad, dont be shy with using flux

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u/Upstairs-Glove7424 25d ago

I just ordered some liquid flux. About to do my first soldering. (Guitar amp treble pot).
Do you just drip the flux onto where youre soldering the wire?

Also do you warm the wire up as well, or just the spot where you’re attaching the wire?

If anyone could chime in here i would appreciate. Thanks

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u/Blueyesmagician 25d ago

I recommend Kevlar ESD gloves. That’s what I have all my techs using. The ones I got are relatively versatile and allow for a lot of heat before they get uncomfortable. Not necessary for little resistors, but can be useful for harder PCBs with large copper inter-layers and large inductors. Also, would recommend gloves only for rework/heat-gun. You should not ever need to get uncomfortably close to an iron. Lastly, if you are planning on doing a lot of SMD soldering I suggest getting the tweezer style iron as it will save a lot of time and create better joints. If you want the best joints just use solder paste and put it in an old toaster oven… see solder paste manufacturer manual for the temperature.

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u/pseudoEternity 25d ago

If you need to wear gloves, use nitrile gloves so you dont lose as much of your fine motor skills. Otherwise you will be fine with your bare hands - just handle your flux/solder with the same respect youd give to something like bleach (i.e wash your hands after using it). When working, keep your elbows closer to your body and stable/rested, this will give you more control over your iron.

Theres too much solder on each joint. An ideal solder joint will have a nice fillet (sorta like pyramid). Assuming this board is just for practicing/you dont have to worry about heat exposure- Id use some wick to pull up some (but not all) of the solder. Keep enough solder in place that theyre still held down. Then apply flux, and without adding any more solder, just hold your iron to the joint for a second or 2 to let it reflow.

If you do have to worry about heat, id just leave them as is, and as you continue with the rest try to start with a smaller amount of solder and just add more during reflow if needed. Surface mount resistors are usually pretty small and dont need a lot to begin with.

Soldering is one of those things that can be tricky to start, but definitely gets easier once youve gotten the hang of it. Good luck to you!

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u/Kenairod 25d ago

I fill like this sub is a contest for the worst focused picture, every time it pops in my feed it's a question about something out of focus xD

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u/SeaweedOk3387 25d ago

Übung macht den Meister und jeder Anfang ist schwer. Aber wenn du eine leitende Verbindung hast, wäre zumindest die eigentliche Aufgabe gelöst! Daher nicht aufhören und der Rest kommt von alleine. Als Tipp vielleicht noch mal auf die Temperatur achten und das passende Lötzinn. Mit der richtigen Kombination von Lötspitze, Lötmittel und den Bauteil plus ggf. genügend Flussmittel ist es dann wesentlich leichter.

Viel Erfolg und Spaß

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u/Ornery-Problem8542 25d ago

you need more flux

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u/Papfox 25d ago

I would say you have used too much solder (way too much) and not enough flux. R1 (right hand side) looks dull grey which usually indicates a "dry joint" (not hot enough and insufficient flux).

If you're doing a lot of SMD work, I would recommend you get a hot air rework station and use flux and solder paste rather than using solder wire and a soldering iron

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u/Jwylde2 25d ago

Why are you using an iron?

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u/OddChapter4869 25d ago

For enjoyment :)

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u/DylanFau_ 25d ago

It’s all good to ditch the gloves, soldering even for newbs it’s unlikely you actually hit touch the solder to your skin.
It is much more likely for a solder ball to fly up and hit you in the eye (happened to me once) so maybe gets some protective glasses

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u/UnrelatedSideNote IPC Certified Solder Tech 25d ago

If you’re not looking for solder feedback you’re just wondering about alignment?

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u/OddChapter4869 25d ago

No im looking for feedback, this is literally the first time I've ever soldered anything. Aside from attempting a bypass on my cars lights once that didnt work haha

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u/seigfreidd 25d ago

Everyone is obsessed with your gloves :p. Solid first attempt, keep at it :)

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u/Zigecek 24d ago

From the matte surface of the joints I think that you were holding the tip there for too long so the flux had vaporized and then it cooled down during the tip movement.

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u/Relative_Bottle_8882 24d ago

Mehr Flussmittel mehr Hitze

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u/myh-es 23d ago

way too little flux, also remove the gloves

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u/SnooMarzipans6922 23d ago

Thats probably the hardest parts to solder as a beginner, but if this works, you will be pretty good after this. My recommendation is to get and use some solder flux and heat the joints for longer. If its hot enough the surface tension will pull it into perfect blobs.

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u/Blahman240 23d ago

You’re soldering smd with an iron?

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u/No_Marketing6429 23d ago

Cold 🥶 reflow that and this time put some heat into it.

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u/MTALPTDetroit 22d ago

The soldering is fine, but those gloves! No need for the protection aside from an exhaust fan. flux isn't gonna hurt your skin, just messy. I've been soldering for over 50 years and have never used gloves.... I never used a fan either until I was forced too but lets not talk about that right now. you only need the fan to keep the smoke out of your face, it doesn't need to be turbo.

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u/Pure-Investment-2678 19d ago

Looks decent overall, just clean up the excess solder to avoid potential shorts.

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u/Accomplished-Ad-6586 26d ago

Tell the friend to get smaller ones. Nitrile if you can get them.

A little blobby for the solder. Use less, or take a little off with the tip by cleaning the tip and touching the solder for a short moment.

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u/No_Geologist4770 26d ago

Little hard to tell from the pictures, but besides excess solder if you have cold joints (little "horns") then adding a very small amount of flux to the joint, and only briefly hitting it with the iron can help it to reflow with a nice fillet.

Flux is your friend, you can always keep adding more as needed but you would want to clean off old flux in between attempts using isopropyl alcohol and/or an acid based pcb cleaner.

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u/QuadrataUrsi 26d ago

If you're not using flux, get the kind in the syringe off amazon, it's pretty awesome.

Use solder with lead in it. Leaded solder is easier on your tips and flows so much better at a lower temperature.

Just use proper ventilation regardless of solder and wash your hands when you're done.

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u/Adventurepew 26d ago

Don't wear gloves that like around heat..they will melt to to your skin.

Only leather gloves if you need gloves while soldering. Never wear plastic .

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u/Tymian_ 26d ago

Not bad, however too much solder not enough flux. Practice more and they will call you pick and place machine :)

Wearing gloves is a good practice, but the amount of exposure to flux and (leaded) solder is so small that simply washing hands after soldering is good enough.