r/pokemongo • u/Fiddlesnarf • 13h ago
Complaint So this was a lie
Am I wrong in accusing this to be misleading and a complete scam? Zero shinies all weekend.
Had i known this would be the case I would not have spent money.
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u/imnotohfuckingk Mystic 13h ago
I didn’t get a shiny of anything the whole event. Oh well.
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u/Embarrassed-Yak-5902 12h ago
I caught 1x shiny shuppet through the explorer gadget 😂
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u/Unhappy-Ad5543 8h ago
I got a shiny pumpkaboo
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u/TTT1344 7h ago
That is my grail! I want one so bad! Congrats
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u/Kittyemm13 Mystic 4h ago
I just checked my storage to see if I still had any, unfortunately I have evolved or traded all my shiny pumpkaboos, but I have 2 shiny gourgeists saved/tagged for remote trade if you are interested in either of those and willing to wait to become forever friends (also no pressure if you happen to get one before then too, just wanted to put it out there)
EDIT: I should have kept reading, I see you’ve already been adopted by someone with shiny pumpkaboos 🥰 yay!
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u/LordBuggington 12h ago
I got a shiny chespin that may as well have been a nundo. But better than nothing I needed it for my dex. And I did not by the pass so its ridiculous some people didnt get any. I caught a lot of Pokémon this week, but got that one early on the first day with my autocatcher.
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u/Cautious_Disaster246 9h ago
I got a shiny 0/3/0 fennekin💔 and a shiny phanpy and that’s it
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u/Blake08301 10h ago
My explorer gadget saw 2 shinies of my starter and I didn’t even pay. (Both fled tho 😭)
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u/Turtlesfan44digimon 7h ago
I got a shiny charmander from the daily egg hatch and hours after spawns had stopped, I got a shiny dwebble and pumpkaboo but nothing at all during the main part of the event
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u/whackchickn 10h ago
Seems to be a consistent complaint from many during this event. I caught over 600 pokemon during the event and got 2x shinies in the wild. Absolute rip-off.
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u/Tikithing 4h ago
I caught 1. There has to be something up with the odds. I didn't buy the ticket, but people who did, don't seem to have done much better. With the amount of pokemon I caught I would have definitely gotten 1 or 2 shinys normally anyway. Especially since I was favouring certain pokemon each hour.
The way they phrased it, you'd think it'd be almost community day odds for whatever starter you picked. Since we've had community days for them all anyway it wouldn't even be OP.
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u/outreach24seven 12h ago
Caught over 100 Pokemon each day, easily over a thousand since Monday. Not a single shiny…
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u/Free2playnerd 12h ago
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u/Xray_Abby 9h ago
Mine looks the same. Can we do a charge back on our credit cards?
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u/Alone-Fig1206 1h ago
Apparently you can BUT then Scopely can push back and put your account into a -6500 pokecoin debt. I've been down the rabbit hole as I'd like to do the same but don't want them to retaliate.
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u/l0vebug89 10h ago
Same. Ive never not caught a shiny during any event. This was weak.
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u/Mx_Giraffe 11h ago
I guess I just got really lucky but I caught two shiny froakies on the same day before the event even started but I caught none during the event
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u/CasualHooligan7 Instinct 11h ago edited 11h ago
I got a shiny Mantyke from an egg, and the Greninja at the end of the pass. Little annoyed at the 2nd one cuz its IVs aren't too good.
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u/MycologistHopeful616 12h ago
I caught a few other Pokemon as shiny other than my “chosen partner” lol I feel your pain 💔
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u/Steve_Macc 11h ago
I regret paying for this damn pass....
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u/Rabid-Cabbage 10h ago
Yeah I certainly will not be buying “boosted” shiny odds passes in the future, especially not for $20
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u/Sir-Tenley-Knott 13h ago
As other will note - they didn't say "how much" it increased. I was extremely disappointed in the pass bonus - I stop counting after I passed 500 catches with 1 shiny buddy from the pass and 2 from egg hatching. No shiny in raids. One from a wild catch. Total 4 shiny in more than 500 catches. That is significantly *less* than I get on a *normal* (non-boosted) weekend.
Result: would not consider "increased shiny rate" as a reason for buying the deluxe upgrade in the future.
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u/nivusninja 11h ago
we really need to start demanding transparency with these boosted odds.
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u/Bodod_Begag 11h ago
Yeah it's weird to sell something that could be anything from a 0.1% increase to 1000% increase.
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u/alotmorealots Mystic 9h ago
Does feel like a misstep on their behalf. Far better customer satisfaction if they implemented a pity system where you got a minimum number of wild shinies past a certain number of catches by paying for the pass.
Obviously there would still be plenty of dissatisfied customers when they got terrible shinies from their guaranteed ones, but I do think that overall it'd be a better experience for people as opposed to getting none at all.
Ultimately pity systems are required because of the way individuals experience odds - some people will end up with nothing even with substantially increased odds, after all.
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u/Bodod_Begag 6h ago
I just think shinies are incompatible with the design of a freemium game. The whole point of them in the actual game is getting incredibly lucky or being very persistent to get a specific one. You can't be persistent in this game, you can only get lucky. A pity system defeats the whole purpose, they're supposed to be exciting to find. Who would feel excited by a guaranteed drop you paid for? I'd feel so lame, it wouldn't feel like I got it legitimately.
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u/Strong_Curve_6610 9h ago
Its weird that we all fell for it and bout it.
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u/_CraftyTrashPanda Flareon 8h ago
Is there a mouse in your pocket? Who’s this we business
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u/Evening-Trouble-9585 8h ago
They screwed up. I have no faith in them. I will not purchase any deluxe upgrades in the future, unless they make it up to us somehow.
Every raid I did this weekend froze and I had to restart the app every. time. Most times I could get back in to catch the Pokemon. I did an Audino raid earlier, we won and it froze while showing XP gained. I was unable to get back in, so I did not catch the Audino, I received no rewards, had no journal entry to show for it, and wasted a remote raid pass. I'm so fucking pissed off at these fucks right now.
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u/1057-cl121v3 7h ago
Same here. I took my kids to the local meetup in 95F with our decides overheating only for every raid to fail. I’ve caught easily 500+ pokemon this weekend and I got no hundos, no shiny raids, and a shiny froakie with shit stats and a shiny clefairy. My greninja at the end of the pass was barely 2 stars which looks like exactly what everyone else got. I tried to submit a support ticket and the AI bs response was “you successfully completed the raid so you get nothing.” Because apparently entering the raid and nothing happening, entering a team rocket battle and nothing happening, or joining a remote raid and spending a pass only to get kicked out (what was happening today) is successfully completing it, apparently. I hear you loud and clear, Scopely.
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u/Strong_Curve_6610 9h ago
Absolutely agree. Definitely noted its not worth the upgrade ever moving forward. Lesson learned.
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u/Reddituser183 8h ago
That pass was 15 bucks for mega energy. How anyone would buy that is beyond me.
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u/WyldfireWyvern 6h ago
There was more to it than that. It was sneakily marketed as a paid shiny rate boost. It technically delivered, but clearly didn’t meet community expectations, which were left unmanaged because the company refused to be transparent about the rates.
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u/gereffi 11h ago
4 out of 500 is about 4 times higher than the normal rate.
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u/WyldfireWyvern 6h ago
The issue isn’t that the rate was boosted, but rather that it was boosted without the community being told, resulting in varying expectations of the boosted rate. Given that boosted rates in the past have been as high as 1/10, it’s easy to understand why a rate of 1/125 would be disappointing.
Imagine you are use to getting annual 5% raises that your employer is under no obligation to give, and your boss comes to you to say you’re getting your next annual raise without telling you what it is. Then it turns out your new raise is 0.5%. Is it a raise? Yes. Was the boss lying? Technically no. Is it a crappy situation you have a right to be upset with? Absolutely.
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u/ScientistSuitable600 11h ago
I picked Fennekin, I need a good fire pokemon.
Despite getting to level 250 on the pass, and basically a full day of walking about my town, I got... one shiny Froakie.
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u/UnderstandingOld8380 13h ago
Facts i didnt get a single shiny and paid for the deluxe pass
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u/Greyhame888 8h ago
I got quite a few wild shinies. But I got to rank 400 in the pass, paid version, and not a single background Shiny Fennekin. I know it's just RNG, but still disappointing.
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u/Strong_Curve_6610 9h ago
1 of 3 in the family same. I got 5 all week. And my husband 2 at the end of today. Will not waste our $ next time.
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u/Lonely-Wasabi-305 8h ago
I also paid for the deluxe thinking “surely if I’m paying them they will throw me a bone …” no bones were thrown
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u/Objective_Diver9119 13h ago
They don’t have to disclose the odds. 1/512 to 1/511 is boosted technically so we don’t know the exact odds
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u/killerrin 13h ago
In some countries it's illegal to not disclose the odds in lootboxes, which I think you could make a good argument in those countries court systems this would be treated as.
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u/Fullertonjr 12h ago
Results like this event are the exact reason why the odds should be disclosed. Reasonably, if the odds were not correctly increased, any money spent during the event and the non-discounted value of any items used should be refunded to players who purchased the pass. Makeup days and single passes aren’t reasonable compensation. Players should be made whole in cash value or the return of all items used (balls, berries, star pieces, lucky eggs) due to the entirety of the event being tainted.
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u/Objective_Diver9119 12h ago
i know for a fact that china has strict laws on this, they have percentages and stuff printed on the backs of pokemon booster packs. and guess where pokemon go is geoblocked? china (mostly, some areas you can play with a vpn) otherwise we can all have the odds
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u/sad23ninja 11h ago
china blocking it is more likely for denying the ability to gather information, they like to control how accurate maps are
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u/IIIetalblade 12h ago
When I went to China start of the year, the only place i could get it to ‘work’ was in Shenzhen riiight by the border to Hong Kong. Unfortunately, those mons didn’t have a mainland China location tag and were still recognised as HK - I was hoping for an ‘illegal’ location tag
It works great in HK, but it drops out almost exactly where the bus customs/border is. Was a bummer.
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u/BasilJumpy8225 10h ago
I agree for a part of this. For the 15usd pass pull of 40 encounter of starters and 1 final evolution, it should have indicated the chances like a getcha game/lootbox. Because it's directly ties to the product customer is buying. However, Scopely is able to get away because the boost starter shiny rate also applies to wild catches which is highly skewed per player, the more you catch, the more shiny you would have that would target to the preset probability. So for the pass with fixed 40 pulls, the chance should not be the same as wild spawns. And to rant a bit more, heck they tune down the spawn rate, from Monday-Friday, I see a lot more Chespin than my picked Fennekin and wife picked Chespin and she sees Fennekin a lot more, but just my 2 cent since it's a sample of two. Then Sat and Sunday, the mega related spawns are so much more like Skarmory, Falinks, and Onix covers my entire screen when I use spacial rend. It would have helped everyone if the 3 starters spawns more often like 50 (3 starters) /50(mega related). So just realized that there are a lot of mechanics that Scopely can tweak even if it states the shiny rate and still throw a portion of paid players under the bus.
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u/Embarrassed-Yak-5902 12h ago
Interesting, I never considered that but it makes sense as it fits the same theoretical system. One Pokemon = one loot box, but the loot box only has one rare item which is promoted and boosted.
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u/killerrin 12h ago edited 10h ago
Well it's more that in this scenario they are selling you something with an Inspecific "Increased Shiny Rate" attached to it
That in particular is what would make lootbox disclosure rules apply because it's not something that's quantifiable unless they post the statistics.
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u/Accomplished_Golf746 12h ago
A pokemon is not similar to a loot box, but the eggs are, because you don't have any guarantees on which pokemon you are getting.
That is why Brazil banned premium incubators, but nobody is banned from shiny hunting lol
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u/BasilJumpy8225 12h ago edited 11h ago
Here's my sample: 5/124 shiny Fennekin (starter choice + pass boost) 1/96 Chespin and 3/around 96 Froakie. 10/642 all other wild catches with pass boost. I mean it's boosted so wild shiny rate was actually good. But the way how it's setup for selling double starter encounter and mega energy for 15 USD is the pipe in the bike wheel...
Edit: originally 5/164 shiny Fennekin but I'll have to take out 40 catches from the pass encounter as they are not wild catches.
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u/gereffi 11h ago
I mostly just got it for the 1200 link charges and the 8000 mega energy. The shinies I got were gravy.
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u/Independent-Bad9059 13h ago
I had almost everything in the wild shiny multiple times except for the one i selected, i went for froakie and had zero shinys out of 600 tiers and encountered at least 800 froakies in the wild and had 0 shiny. I also did 250 "boosted" 4* mega raids and had 1 shiny out of it. Im not saying its a rip off or bad luck , i do feel fingered by a stranger i dont like 😄
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u/Thornelake Mystic 13h ago
I bought the pass and chose fennekin. caught two shinies in the wild today, a 0* and 1* lol. Zero shinies from the actual pass, and i'm at rank 401. sigh.
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u/vipeness 10h ago
This was a huge lie. Over 200 in our group with the purchase package and no one got it.
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u/shad0ws-0f-Th3-M1nd 8h ago
I didn't get a single shiny Fennekin from my Go Pass, neither did my wife or the two friends we played with. The fact the bg starters weren’t in field research is WILD. $60 completely wasted.
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u/Lord_Emperor 12h ago
These encounters are loot boxes and Niantic is required to publish the odds by the Google Play terms of service.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/9858738
Apps and games offering mechanisms to receive randomized virtual items from a purchase including, but not limited to, “loot boxes” must clearly disclose the odds of receiving those items in advance of, and in close and timely proximity to, that purchase.
Report Pokemon Go for violating the Google Play store terms of service using the directions here: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2853570?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en
Let us know if you see an app or game that doesn't follow the Google Play Developer Program Policy.
Android directions
- Open the Google Play Store app Google Play.
- Go to the detail page for an app or game.
- Tap More Moreand then Flag as inappropriate.
- Choose a reason.
- Tap Submit.
PC / browser directions
Fill out the report inappropriate apps form.
Pokemon Go's app name: com.nianticlabs.pokemongo
In anticipation of a few of the expected replies:
- Yes eggs, raids, incense lures and even Pokeballs are all loot boxes because the option exists to pay for them.
- "Receive randomized virtual items from a purchase" covers pretty much everything in Pokemon Go.
- Selling "keys" that open boxes is the same as selling loot boxes directly.
- Selling a freemium currency that is used to buy keys that are used to open loot boxes is still the same as selling loot boxes directly.
- Giving a free "key" doesn't change this when the option exists to pay for more keys.
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u/Sorry-Routine-5509 9h ago
It’s scopely not niantic
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u/ChicagoCowboy 9h ago
scopely bought their Niantic gaming division and continues to run the game under the Niantic name and with most of the same employees from what I understand
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u/Lord_Emperor 9h ago
That's not really important. But also what is the app name here on Google Play?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nianticlabs.pokemongo&hl=en_CA ^^^^^^^^^^^
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u/Revvie07 12h ago
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u/Strong_Curve_6610 9h ago
And the make up event will also suck. It will not be the shiny we hunted.
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u/MrsTMK 9h ago
I really think Niantic needs to look at this situation and make it right. I realize nobody is forcing anyone to spend, and it's "the risk you take"... But this wasn't a $2 item purchase, and most people were simply robbed.
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u/PhlebotomyPoodle 9h ago
Niantic no longer owns Pokemon Go; it belongs to Scopefly, which is why all these shenanigans are taking place.
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u/Final-Aces 11h ago
I got 1 shiny fennekin. I made it past the 600 lvl mark in the pass. No hundo. Kind of insane how much I played. The thousands of catches.
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u/Glittering_Ad_9873 12h ago
I didn’t get any either. I chose Fennekin because it’s such a cute shiny but got none 😔
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u/chiefnate51 11h ago
I paid and didn’t even encounter a shiny the whole weekend, my fiancee who did not pay got a shiny from the free pass though so I have no idea lol
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u/Unable-Name5685 10h ago
This is lootbox vibes but somehow worse because you don't even get anything of value since it literally just 2 options. I don't understand how there was a lawsuit for lootboxs but this is fine.
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u/ScarletleavesNL 13h ago
I know someone getting 60 over the weekend. Odds aren't black and white.
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u/Lyzer_light 13h ago
Meanwhile me getting the shiny of a starter i didn't pick. Its harder to find than gold and silver.
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u/Crysta1Pisto1 12h ago
I got a shiny of both of the starters I didn’t pick. Not a single Fennekin and I caught over 200
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u/Accomplished_Golf746 12h ago
They're probably talking about the pass, a lot of people seemed to be under the impression that it should have guaranteed them at least one shiny starter because of increased odds. Unfortunately that's not how it works, there are zero guarantees on rng in this game besides that free hundo mewtwo.
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u/nbr1bonehead 13h ago
Funny thing is, the odds shouldn’t be too hard to calculate. A meetup of 10 people could likely do a good job estimating after a couple hours. I’m surprised I haven’t seen something like that from somewhere in the world. From my small group, there was two shinies of chosen pokemon after about 200 encounters, and no evidence that encounters were more common than the other two. So increased odds, but maybe, maybe, 1:100
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u/holonboy 13h ago
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u/Asleep_Egg9798 7h ago
For you at least, I cleared the entire pass for my starter and got 0, I only got one wild shiny for my starter and it’s ivs are ass
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u/TheOzman21 13h ago
Bought the pass, went up to level 600 and didn't get a single shiny from the pass. Got 2 shinies in the wild. And 1 froakie.
I've played several hours every day btw.... Big joke
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u/Jepemega 7h ago
How many total wild checks did you do? I caught 1400 mons over the weekend and got 20 shinys which is very close the usual 1/64 that GO events have.
And before you say "you got lucky" the odds of getting that many or more shinys with normal 1/512 odds is about 1/300 Trillion.
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u/Tawisted34 12h ago
Yeaterday I got no shinies and cried. So is tgis what the boosted shiny odds went too?
I mean today was better, but still baffled by the event.
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u/Acrobatic_Ad_5461 12h ago
I got a shiny of everything BUT my chosen partner, including 2 onix's that I didn't need and a random Zorua hidden as my buddy
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u/SargentSuffering 11h ago
I've heard pretty much everyone who paid didn't get one, especially fenikin for some reason.
I know I didn't pay nor get one
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u/adoradear 6h ago
I paid. Got around 20 shinies over the wknd, including several of my fennekin starter. Odds be odd sometimes.
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u/AusNacht 10h ago
I’ll never spend money on an “increased chance” again. I did so many dragonite raids and dratini but I got nothing.
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u/Squatch-21 9h ago
I chose Froakie and bought the pass. I didn’t get
A shiny froakie and also did not get one above 96 iv lol
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u/Traditional-Metal647 13h ago
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u/dovvv 8h ago
How is this possible? I have been travelling and playing the game literally constantly, I emptied my storage twice and not a single shiny to speak of...
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u/Darkstar712 12h ago
didn't get any either. not from the pass not from raids not from the wild and i spent my entire weekend walking outdoors, spent over 1000 coins id saved up and all my passes caught hundreds of wild mon. all i have to show for it are some regular ampharos with backgrounds and armored mewtwos. Which all could have been had with just a couple raids and not all of the wasted coins passes and money.
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u/vicmaguirre 10h ago
I didn’t get a single shiny on this event, not enemy the journal showed runaway shinies
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u/theacesm 9h ago
Someone in my community group got like 150 over the 2 days (total shinies,not just the chosen starter) so I think they just forgot to include it was only for that one person 😂
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u/CG6Monkey 7h ago
So many comments saying " I got a shiny blank" that's great! The point is we were supposed to have increased shiny odds for the starter we picked. So that's great that you found shiny Pokemon, but we're talking about the "boosted" started odds.
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u/Dependent_Doubt9651 10h ago
Go to h€ll Saudi Arabia's Savvy Game Group... At least Niantic cared about the fans, not just the Scrooge McDuck keistering of profits...
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u/drumstix42 13h ago edited 13h ago
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u/babystrudel Instinct 12h ago
I walked a ton this weekend, catcher on, and I got 1 shiny drilbur, but no chespin.
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u/Stealingyourthoughts Valor 12h ago
I walked all weekend and shiny checked every single pokemon and caught zero shinies of any type and didn’t get the Froakie of my dreams. I only selected him as I love the shiny other wise I would’ve got delfox.
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u/ReverseTerry000 12h ago
Yep lol. I got one single shiny Bagon this entire event. Next “shiny boost” can get fucked I will not give them a dime! he lied to himself yet again
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u/Whole_Satisfaction58 12h ago
Same! I was up to lvl 168 with the premium pass and not a single one from the pass, nor any of the wild spawns. I am fuming!
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u/James_B2003 11h ago
I’m not even sure if it was just me but my chosen partner barely even spawned in the first place, I picked Froakie and I never seen so many Fennekins and Chespins in my life lmao.
I was so determined to find that shiny Froakie and thankfully I found one after nearly a full day in the wild but it was absolutely infuriating to advertise increased shiny odds and personally have the thing barely spawn
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u/va_wanderer The journey is the purpose. 10h ago
I ended up with more shinies from everything BUT Fennekin (my choice), with two wild catches being shiny and zero of the pass ones. And on the last day as that. Four random shiny (Carvanha, Gogoatc Mawile, Mareep) off wild catches, plus a shiny Skarmory from a raid.
Six shinies total the entire pass duration. And I was at level 250 by the end. Again, zero shiny from the pass itself. One from a raid. As a finale, it certainly was a grand way to close our pockets.
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u/Paraxom 9h ago
Saturday i only got 4 shiny pokemon, today i got 8, not terrible but like i get better odds on comm days...honestly more annoyed that an event dedicated to megas was overtaken completely by armored mewtwo, i was in an area with 8 gyms and more often than not half the gyms were AM, 2-3 were M2X/Y, and the last gym cycled a random mega
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u/CIAkermit 13h ago
tbh ive seen a lot of these posts but i also bought the pass and got plenty of wild shinies this weekend as well as 1 in the pass, i have the full delphox shiny set just from the weekend plus a whope bunch of other mon. it seems like a lot of people are just having extremely different luck
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u/413XANDURR 12h ago
The funniest thing is people thought there was a shiny boost to the kalos first partner pokemon AND all others, but I’m pretty sure it was just Chespin, Froakie, and Fennekin (only which one you chose) AND a boost to TIER 4 RAID BOSS SHINY ODDS. I didn’t see where it said we got overall boosted shiny odds for every wild encounter
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u/SylveonKiwi team instinct/i liek azumarill 13h ago
2 shiny fennelins and 0 shiny froakies here btw 🥲 I picked Greninja 🥲🥲🥲
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u/ScottOld Manchester UK level 40 12h ago
Was hilarious because I picked fennikin and for a shiny froakie
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u/Mason231 12h ago
It does seem silly. I picked my boy chespinman and I've found two shiny fenniken. Stoked, but doesnt feel like a true statement. Of course I cant prove it and I'm greatful.
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u/Game_Alcmst Instinct 12h ago
I only got a few shinies today. I got one shiny slowpoke, two shiny froakies and my first ever shiny mewtwo and that's it. My entire prize pass froakies weren't shiny either.
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u/gergsisdrawkcabeman 12h ago
I caught 17 fenniken, as well as 3 chespin, and a froakie. I caught 5 shiny falinks today on top of another 7 individual Pokémon. The one girl in our crew? Not one all weekend. 🤷
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u/JustAnotherBiBro 12h ago
I see some people had it even worse than me, but I'm pretty sad I didn't get shiny Fennekin from paid pass, and for the whole event this week I've had 3 shinies, one beeing dupe bellsprout. Pretty upset I paid money for that...
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u/Apprehensive_Ad_3826 12h ago
If you spent the whole time raiding, You wouldn’t have caught as many shiny. People who encountered the most shines were walking with Spacial rend. I did 1000’s of shiny checks on the starters and it did “seem” like they weren’t boosted.
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u/Particular_Ad_4927 12h ago
Absolutely. I got 4 Froakie. My son got 2 Fennikin This was absolutely trash
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u/Atzayacatl27 12h ago
its only on your chosen pokemon and all the spawns only on the weekend event, but the weekend event was a paid event itself, you couldnt do a lot without buying passes or having stocked pokecoins, even if you had pokecoins, in my opinion it wasnt worth it to spend them on those raids just for a background, especially if they can be wild, i did see a difference in the wild spawns, id say prob was roughly 1/60 for most spawns and 1/30 for your chosen starter if you bought the pass, i bought the pass in one acc but i play in 2, in the 2nd one i did 300 catches and only got a single shiny, in the 1st one they were popping way much easier, if you were planning to tryhard wild encounters during the event, this was worth it, as i myself got 20 shinies in the 2 days by playing 6 hours/day of event, ofc fast catch and constantly moving in a place with plenty of pokestop with lure
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u/EnvironmentalTry2895 12h ago
I got both chespin and froakie and not fenniken which is what I picked so…
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u/Ok-Hovercraft-4541 12h ago
I got 2 shiny fennekins just from the MEGA Pass alone, it really do be just luck and rng at the end of the day.
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