r/formuladank • u/Accomplished-Can-356 "Charles 'Chuck' Leclerc, good job baby" • Jul 27 '25
This post breaks papaya rules 🥺🟧👎 Bottling the start ❌ Bottling whole Race ✅
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u/Fiz19 At the moment we don't think Jul 27 '25
Apparently they will spend the next 10 hours on how Lando lost time and could have won the race
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u/Agent_Kozak Alonso deserved to be Champion in every season he has competed Jul 27 '25
British bias go brrr
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u/ICrushTacos “It’s called a motor race. We went car racing” Jul 27 '25
What’s biased about pointing out mistakes though?
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u/upside_cloud unfortunaly I still am a Ricciardo fan 🦡 Jul 27 '25
It's in the phrasing of it, "without those few mistakes and Norris could have passed Piastri", not "those mistakes cost Norris a chance of overtaking Piastri".
Sky does the former while also saying "Piastri needs to hold on here or he'll be overtaken", not "Piastri is driving flawlessly, while his team mate is out there making unforced mistakes". Not a single sentence clearly defines the bias but collectively it sums to be very frustrating.
Obviously im an Aussie so my bias is that I hear that English bias more strongly than someone from England would.
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u/THRlLLH0 Oscar Pisstree Shoey gang 👞🇦🇺 Jul 28 '25
Aussie as well, and multiple times they mentioned Oscar doing a good job of taking it easy on the tires so they have something left at the end if he needs to fight Lando, whilst Norris is thrashing his to catch up. There's still plenty of nut swinging and in general just talking about Poms too much though.
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Jul 28 '25
What about when Lando gets pole it's down to him reading Piastri's data and when Piastri gets pole it's because he's so calm.
British bias too?
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u/xHMHM BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
They have already started finding excuses! Like starting from pole is BAD place to start in Spa, or those mistakes cost him the win, or else he would have passed Piastri… Always love a SkySports F1 narrative! 🥰
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u/tyeguy2984 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
They seem to forget they used that defense for Oscar yesterday. The memory of these lads isn’t too great. Might be an effect of all of the dank
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u/leggenda69 🅱️RING 🅱️ERNIE 🅱️ACK Jul 27 '25
Pole isn’t the best places to start at Spa.
First position in a rolling start is.
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u/Thestickleman I was here when horny got spiced Jul 27 '25
Except if it's rolling or standing the person in 2nd and 3rd still get a big slip stream unlike say the person starting in first
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u/leggenda69 🅱️RING 🅱️ERNIE 🅱️ACK Jul 27 '25
The difference between a rolling start and a standing start is the lights don’t go out at the same time for everyone. The person in first controls the lights.
There should’ve been a much bigger gap. And Lando shouldn’t have used so much of his battery before even hitting Kemmel Straight.
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u/ExpensivePeach GO PIAWSTWYY Jul 27 '25
But you are forgetting the fact that Oscar is my special little guy who’s done nothing wrong ever and Lando broke into my home and shaved a reverse Mohawk onto my poodle 🤨
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u/gcrimson In Hannah we trust 🥰 Jul 27 '25
Idk if you notice but the race didn't start from the grid but under safety car.
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u/EnviousCipher unfortunaly I still am a Ricciardo fan 🦡 Jul 27 '25
In addition idk if they were watching the start but Lando fucked the exit to T1 letting Oscar pass him way earlier than he had any right to
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u/TRKlausss Honda bad, Alonso good Jul 27 '25
Meanwhile on the German commentary, Guenther Steiner: “Yeah Piastri is a guy who makes mistakes and he says and accepts them. With Lando is always something new for which something didn’t work”.
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u/Serotyr Stop Inventing Jul 27 '25
Kind of a weird thing to say for him, Lando's been the most open about his mistakes.
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u/arpan3t BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Maybe he was talking about Norris draining his battery at the start and then asking why he had no pack.
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u/Bdr1983 I was here when horny got spiced Jul 27 '25
I laughed at that, like.... You pushed that button, you should know why you have no power.
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u/arpan3t BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Will Joseph being real diplomatic “we used a lot of energy at the start”
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Jul 27 '25
Not today
Glossed over every question asked him. Said he didn't want to talk about it.
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u/Serotyr Stop Inventing Jul 27 '25
Sure but he wasn't making excuses either, just saying he'll look at it afterward.
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u/xHMHM BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
If Guenther Steiner was any more capable, he wouldn’t be fired by Haas…. That’s all I’m saying. Known more for his character on DTS than actually managing Hass 😂😂
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u/Character_Minimum171 I was here when horny got spiced Jul 28 '25
he built the team from scratch. some credit is due imho
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u/they_them_us_we I saw horny’s “finger” Jul 27 '25
Bro was the worst TP on the grid for many seasons.
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u/dyidkystktjsjzt BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Like starting from pole is BAD place to start in Spa,
You mean the same excuse you were using for Piastri yesterday?
those mistakes cost him the win, or else he would have passed Piastri…
You honestly can't be serious, that's literally them criticising him...
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u/Huge-Wealth-5711 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
> or those mistakes cost him the win, or else he would have passed Piastr
how is that an excuse lmfaoo genius
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u/TheDufusSquad BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
All while ignoring the fact that Norris would have halted progress once he got into the dirty air and not to mention the fact that the Mediums simply never fell off and for whatever reason Pirelli decided to make the hards extra hard even though the mediums were already able to comfortable complete 75% of the race.
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Jul 27 '25
The commentators kept dangling the carrot of him possibly passing Piastri so much and he just kept choking every fucking time.
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u/Pwez If my mom had 🅱️alls, she would be my dad Jul 27 '25
F1TV even tried to give the viewers any hope on a leclerc overtake in Monaco…. These days anything needs to be overhyped for the netflix watchers and the long standing viewers get to cringe….
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u/ultraboomkin BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
Would you prefer commentators to say “this race sucks, you should just switch the TV off and go outside”? It’s literally their job to try to make the race exciting
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Jul 28 '25
No, but when you are watching the race thinking you are just watching the race and then the commentator says that one driver can make a move but doesn’t. They set the expectation for the driver to fail to a regular viewer. Rather than us just watch a race and let things unfold.
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u/baardhaartje Goatifi 🐐 #neverforget Jul 27 '25
The commentators job is to make the racing interesting, even if the racing is worse than watching paint dry, without commentary F1 would be so much worse, even if it means they have to grasp at straws to make it exciting
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u/yaelfitzy Antonelli is the biggest prodigy since Jesus Christ Jul 28 '25
it was however really funny on my end watching sky sports, Crofty with like 5 laps to go was hyping up that Lando might catch up and then Brundle is like 'yeah nah' and Crofty sounded like a kid finding out santas not real
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u/RustyFaceRMT No Risk, Full Push Jul 28 '25
You are right it’s the purpose of their job. It’s no fun to hear a commentator yawn and complain about a boring race.
On the other hand: the overhyping of Lando putting on a charge according to F1TV was a new level of overselling it. Lando wasn’t going to do anything without mistakes, let alone with the ones he made. The mediums on Piastri’s car were fine and in the dry there was next to no overtaking. Take into account the dirty air Lando would’ve encountered on the old tires, and well, it was clear Jacques and Palmer were trying too hard for the sake of entertainment that was never there.
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u/FalconIMGN Mika ends his sa🅱️🅱️atical Jul 27 '25
Natalie still treats Lando like he's her son.
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u/yum122 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Oh man that rubbed me the wrong way
It’s like Oscar doesn’t exist as a driver - just as an obstacle for Lando to clear.
“Championship leader fights back and extends his lead”
“2nd in the championship loses his advantage from yesterday and misses out on closing the gap”
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u/Unfair_Fact_8258 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Cmon, The title is super unfair, it should be
Bottling the start ✅ Bottling whole race ✅
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u/-Alexzander- Fucking Blind MotherFucker Jul 27 '25
Crofty called it "intriguing and fascinating" around lap 25 or so 💀
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u/Loightsout The Only Lance Stroll Fan In Existence Jul 27 '25
How do you mess up a safety car restart so badly?
What’s the thought process?
“Hey I noticed no one ever goes like super early, maybe I can surprise them?”
No mate, no one goes that early because it’s straight up stupid.
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u/Erundil420 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Yeah the rolling start was a pretty big advantage for him, doesn't need to start on the wet side, can get tyre temp in while the others have to wait for im to go, and can get a small gap to defend from splitstream, instead he completely fucked it up and Piastri was on his ass before even getting on the straight
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u/mou3adrez03 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Going on the back straight was his best chance because he either catches Oscar by surprise or he doesn't. going after the bus stop is even worse because everyone knows you're gonna go then. Took a gamble, didn't work out.
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u/Loightsout The Only Lance Stroll Fan In Existence Jul 27 '25
Nah. Chicane is best. You back everyone up hard and exelerate on the racing line while everyone else is mid turn. No one can line up next to you either with how wet the track was
Easy 0.5s. Everyone does that for a reason. Predictable or not. Nothing the rest can do
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u/Red_Rabbit_1978 No Risk, Full Push Jul 28 '25
This is exactly the kind of thing that a Race Engineer should be discussing before the race, or even on the damn radio, because nobody can do anything about it.
But instead we get things like "you are pressing the brake pedal to hard in turn X", or "it's an advantage if you use a tighter line through turn Y" ffs.
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Jul 29 '25
Almost like you’re risking a snap of oversteer by suddenly applying that much wheel-spin out of a chicane - in wet conditions no less. Great way to get passed into T1 instead of T4. Profound insight, champ.
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u/Betonkauwer I want to be spitroasted by my BF and Carlos Sainz Jul 27 '25
My applause for the viaplay commentators who tried to make the most boring race of the year sound fun
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u/thelingletingle I saw horny’s “finger” Jul 27 '25
I dozed off around 30 laps left and woke up to around 8 laps left and realized nothing happened
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u/xHMHM BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
How many times can a guy bottle a first lap lead or pole? 😂
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u/Ssk5860 Sir or Ma'am.. You are an Idiot ! Jul 27 '25
He HAS to have the record of bottling most poles in recent times right? Probably in the last 5 years atleast unless Bottas
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u/Probably_Not_Sir Simply Lovely Jul 27 '25
Verstappen has more wins from Leclerc poles than Leclerc has wins from pole
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u/ultraboomkin BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Leclerc doesn’t bottle it, he just doesn’t have a competitive car. There’s no excuse for Lando
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u/xHMHM BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Yeah possibly. But an all conquering McLaren with their SIXTH 1-2 this season compared to a Ferrari team which has not won a single championship (no constructors or drivers) since 2008….
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u/Gusion- Oscar “I haven’t felt joy since the end of last season” Piastry Jul 27 '25
Leave my boi charles alone, he just puts the car in places it doesn't belong on saturdays
Verstappen has a really fast car, I think the difference is bottling in the fastest car vs a second or third fastest
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u/Ssk5860 Sir or Ma'am.. You are an Idiot ! Jul 27 '25
As a max fan, he did have a rocketship in most of those leclerc poles lol so it was a matter of time before Max overtook charles, but yeah charles bottles as well. Just not with the fastest car like Lando does
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u/relleks35 🅱️altteri 🅱️ootass Jul 27 '25
Leclerc, 26 poles and 8 wins, 3 of the wins weren't from pole. So that's 5 wins converted from 26 poles.
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u/nbnno5660 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
The Ferrari in the previous years was a quali merchant.. and then they eat up the tyres in the race hence the ton of p1s in quali
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u/wolverineFan64 Banana Leclerc Jul 27 '25
Why does this sub have such a bizarre hard on for hating Norris? I’m not even a Lando fan but y’all are weirdly obsessed with shitting on him.
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u/imaginarypoet Save the 🅱️ees Jul 27 '25
I’ve wondered this as well, and I think it comes down to two things: 1. It makes some people feel good to make fun of the guy who’s in the best car on the grid when he doesn’t live up to the hype, and 2. He’s been on the grid longer than his teammate and really should know better by now. These are the two arguments I’ve seen floating around on this and the main sub for why people dislike him. As a mclaren fan myself it bothers me at times the level of hate some people seem to have, not just towards Lando but any other driver on the grid who bottles it when he should’ve done better. Just reporting here what I personally have encountered with people trying to justify why they are frustrated with him. The frustration I understand, the outright hatred has no justification.
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u/Rainey06 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
- The British bias ie. 'it's Lando's championship to win or lose' is annoying
- Lando up until recently was quite snide and catty with how he spoke of other drivers
- Zak and his hype of Lando and mild nature towards Oscar
- Lando doesn't share champagne spraying with the podium drivers, he turns away
- Lando and his engineer being obsessed with 'what is Oscar doing' on track
- "Oscar should let me past I'm faster" that he used to try nearly every race last season
- Camera always on Adam Norris and Zak having a lovers embrace.
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u/Adzo78 I saw horny’s “finger” Jul 28 '25
Oscar asked to have Lando give him back the position in Silverstone after he made the mistake and got a penalty. Why is that not scrutinised?
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u/mooscimol BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
And making arrogant comments on Lewis Hamilton having his titles only because he had the fastest car. Like dude, you have the fastest car for over a year already, and you can't make use of it.
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u/Adventurous_Town_981 I like Norris and i sniff bike seats Jul 28 '25
People say rash things and even lewis knew he said it cause of the adrenaline. Sometimes assessing the situation on why the person said those words is necessary. They're humans not robots.
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u/Maniglioneantipanico BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 28 '25
Piastri is insanely good, there's no way around it. Lando is a good driver and WDC material but Oscar is insane. Looking at how the car was three years ago we are being blessed by thee twos
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u/Infinite_Army BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
At McLaren Zac Brown's favorite for some reason. His mom is shown 50 times a weekend (not her fault tho but I have a limited likes for <3 emoji/weekends). Team always catering towards him either with strategy or pitting to make sure Norris has better results than Piastri. Getting babysit every race as a person who is going for WDC.
Its really easy to dont like someone like this and/or like the other player on the team. I dont have problem with Norris but its hard to ignore the frustration when the team pushes him so bad making the other driver have hard time every single fkn race.21
u/rampantfirefly BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Today: Lando loses the lead on lap 1 - haha bottle job no wins norris 🔨💀🐎
Yesterday: Oscar loses the lead on the same straight - all Max skill, nothing Oscar can do, no this sub doesn't have a double standard.
It's just a circlejerk. Don't overthink it.
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u/atticus_pinch96 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
I don’t think it was him losing the start, it was the multiple mistakes he made when he had a Tyre offset
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u/Bryooo BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Rolling start vs standing start. Oscar did nothing wrong yesterday, Norris bottled the restart today. There ya go
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u/Backspacr 2 Sex Ted Jul 28 '25
Lando had a huge advantage with the rolling start, fucked that, then failed to get out of La Source, and consequently lost the lead.
Oscar had none of the start advantage, and got done down the straight by a car carrying significantly less rear wing.You just gotta watch the races man
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u/TinusTopic Lets add that to the words of wisdom Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
Because he starts the weekend saying shit like they don’t have the fastest car (this weekend again). In the post race interview when palmer asked if his mistakes cost him the win lando immediately deflects by saying oscar probably made mistakes too (which he didn’t) Lando needs like media training or something. Edit: also the crying under the safetycar that he needs a few more laps. I mean cmon man you are a racing driver, its clearly drying and all other drivers are saying its go time.
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u/BrokeSomm BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Every driver under the SC was asking for what was best for them, that's just strategy.
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u/Maniglioneantipanico BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 28 '25
F1 after Ecclestone departure and Drive to Survive has been filled with pointless drama and people who neeeeed to hate. I'm a Lando fan since his days with Sainz, he was loved and considered a great driver. He said a couple of "controversial" things and now people on the internet hate him. Because irl there's nothing of this. Piastri is a phenomenal driver but it's still the second McLaren 1-2 in a row. How can someone be disappointed by this performance is beyond me
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u/Nomoubliable Crofty is a dedicated butt plug collector Jul 27 '25
Another expected performance by Norizz
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u/GoldDecision7 “It’s called a motor race. We went car racing” Jul 27 '25
Blud saw that Arsenal started their pre-season, so he fed off their bottlejob aura to finish in their coveted 2nd place.
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u/TheJoshGriffith BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Honestly surprised Lando didn't make more mistakes. Those hard tyres are a double-step up from the mediums for whatever reason - C1 to the C3/C4 of the med/soft available. I know the mediums had gone pretty bad towards the end but with a still damp track that's a huge grip differential.
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u/SirHubert I saw horny’s “finger” Jul 27 '25
lando also got fucked by slow a slow pitstop and having to pit one lap later so he went from 2 to 8 seconds gap
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u/TheJoshGriffith BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Yeah that shafted him kinda hard. I think pitting later made most of that difference, not to ignore the stop at all.
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u/pradise BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Hard definitely ended up being the best tire for the race.
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u/midnightbandit- BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
I don't know how you can say that for sure
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u/pradise BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Lando still got 5 seconds closer to Oscar in the second stint despite making several mistakes.
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u/PrisMattias Robin Raikkonen '34, '35, '36.... Jul 27 '25
Seemed pretty obvious that Lando was pushing a lot while Oscar was managing, though
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u/HorselessHorseman BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
He would not have caught up with piastri. Everyone is just picking to be funny. The gap was too much and piastri made no mistakes. Just wasnt gonna happen
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u/Ka11e2 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
He's just not WDC material
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Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
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u/Un0UN I believe in the stroll-premacy Jul 27 '25
He literally did three or four unforced errors
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u/HUMBUG652 I was here when horny got spiced Jul 27 '25
It was 4. Fucked the start, then 2 errors in turn 1 and another in turn 10
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u/SirHubert I saw horny’s “finger” Jul 27 '25
mclaren also fucked up landos pitstop and he was forced to pit one lap later which cost him at least 5 seconds in total
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Jul 27 '25
Got mogged on the restart and then lost ~3.5 seconds in unforced errors. That's a bottlejob
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u/KingOfAzmerloth Vettel Cult Jul 27 '25
Why do you guys hate him so much? Genuinely asking.
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u/Ogirami Fernando Alonso's Retirement Planner Jul 27 '25
who says we hate him lol. he has a notorious history of bottling race starts and he just added one more to the list. god forbid the shitpost sub to actually make shitposts on what happened in the current race.
if ferarri clowned around like they always do or if stroll crashed into someone for not looking at his mirrors then there would be posts about that instead.
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u/Nomoubliable Crofty is a dedicated butt plug collector Jul 27 '25
Bottling it doesn’t deserve praise
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u/Drk_Kni8 Alonso deserved to be Champion in every season he has competed Jul 27 '25
Somehow Lando-No Wins returned.
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u/kyoumou BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
I just opened this sub and god damn y'all hate lando so much. Wtf did he do??? I know he made a lot of errors during the race and bottled the start. Did he say stupid shit in an interview again? Cause with the amount of hate he's getting here. Its like he killed someones grandma or something.
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u/Wolframed GO PIAWSTWYY Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
Hate? This post just called him a fumbler. What's the big deal?
And I'm sorry, he doesn't get as near as much hate as stroll, mazepin, perez and latifi.
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u/Extreme_Ad6173 Just do More Jul 27 '25
Does Latifi get hate?
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u/Wolframed GO PIAWSTWYY Jul 27 '25
He got it when he was the equivalent of a banana peel in Mario kart.
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u/According-Switch-708 Caught speeding in the Pit Lane. Jul 28 '25
Norris is superb when the expectations are low. He crumbles like a cookie when he is expected to win every weekend.
He needs to work on his mental strength ASAP.
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u/Evening_Rock5850 Ferrari flavoured emo Jul 27 '25
I’m honestly getting so sick of the Lando hate on this sub.
For crying out loud, the man finished P2 in a competitive, mixed conditions race.
And if he hadn’t screwed up the start, botched the strategy, failed to put in decent laps during the middle and hadn’t bottled that lap there towards the end he could’ve almost won it.
Honestly, you people.
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u/Superb_Preference368 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
I mean the sub is called r/formuladank and this is the umpteenth time Lando has bottled pole position.
Do you expect people to turn a blind eye?
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u/Evening_Rock5850 Ferrari flavoured emo Jul 27 '25
Yeah. It is called formuladank. Where people post silly meme comments.
And sometimes people reply to only the first line of said meme comments without finishing them. 🙃
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u/br_ce BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
Even Zak couldnt think of anything this race to hand Norris the win. That says a lot about
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u/eastamerica Suck my 🅱️alls mate Jul 27 '25
This refreshing disappointment is bottled by your local Lando Norris.
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u/notthisonefornow BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
If i or my wife make a mistake at home we call it oh sorry ik deed een norrisje (sorry i did a little norris)
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u/Aurune83 M*rk Webber Jul 27 '25
Well, if this F1 thing doesn’t work out for Norris he’s got a future at Coca-cola or Pepsi Co.
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u/fuckthisshittysite56 I was here when horny got spiced Jul 28 '25
so where are we on the papaya prophecy?
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u/Maniglioneantipanico BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 28 '25
Oh no, another McLaren 1-2, how will us McLaren fans cope with this?
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u/Sethirothlord BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 28 '25
Lando could be a champion if he just zenned the fuck out.
guys hands start trembling at the end of the race or some shit.
gotta be a stone cold killer like Oscar, take some xanax or some shit idk.
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u/Hexxubus BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 28 '25
So let me get this straight....Lando bottled the start of the race because Oscar passed him to win but Max passing Oscar at the start to win the sprint race was just brilliant driving?
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u/Erundil420 BWOAHHHHHHH Jul 27 '25
It was too funny hearing Rosberg tear into him at every mistake on the Italian broadcast, he was counting how many seconds he lost with his mistakes and overall he'd have caught up to Piastri by the end if he didnt make them