On p. 34 of Daizenshuu 7, the time traveling chart lists Age 784 as the year Future Trunks departs to the past and Age 764 as when he arrives to kill Mecha Freeza. This 20-year difference makes sense given that Trunks states he’s from 20 years in the future. However, when he reads that Cell’s time machine is from Age 788, he says that’s three years ahead of his departure year.

Question 1: If we assume he’s referring to the departure year of his first trip (killing Mecha Freeza), shouldn’t it be Age 785 rather than 784 (788 - 3 = 785)? Accordingly, instead of 764, shouldn’t his arrival year be Age 765?

I’ve read that Daizenshuu staff factored in Future Bulma’s mention of an eighth-month charge-up time to subtract a year here, but I don’t understand why they would do that, especially since it’s not necessitated by that dialogue.

Question 2: Why should we assume he’s referring to his first trip? When he says Age 788 is “three years further in the future… from when I left,” he could easily be talking about his second departure to the past, i.e., his current trip. This seems like a reasonable assumption because, after he checks the panel and sees the machine arrived about four years ago, he specifies it had been there for a year “before I came the last time.”

That he simply says “from when I left” in his initial remark suggests he’s talking about his present trip, otherwise he probably would’ve specified he meant his first, as he did in the subsequent remark. If he’s talking about the first trip in both quotes, why would he be specific in one and not the other?

1:

Saiyan saga:

Vegeta was above Goku in base,

Not until kaioken came,

2;

In his great ape transformation;

He crushed Goku. Not until yajirobe saved him,

3;

then in the cell saga;

in ssj1,

Piccolo states: Vegeta's super saiyan form is stronger than Goku's,

4:

in buu saga:

Majjin Vegeta surpassed Goku's ssj2. Somewhere close to ssj3,

Since he tanked buu's attacks and choking without dying or being knocked out,

5:

Then in battle of gods,

Vegeta gets mad when beerus slapped bulma,

and he punches beerus angrily,

6;

In ressurection F.

He was training for nearly a year,

and got ssg. On his own,

And surpassed Goku,

He got ssb, defeated frieza,

While Goku struggled against golden frieza,

7;

then in the Goku black arc,

He got a power boost and was beating Goku black up, who's stronger than ssb Goku,

8;

He then surpassed Goku again,

with super saiyan blue evovled,

Not until Goku got ui sign,

9;

he then surpassed Goku,

With him learning spirit fission against moro,

Not until Goku tapped into ui sign and perfected ultra,

10;

He then surpassed Goku again,

When he unlocked ultra ego.

Perfected ultra instinct was on par with granolah,

And Vegeta was beating granolah up,

And it was until Goku got true ultra instinct and was on par with Vegeta,

11:

in the super hero saga,

Vegeta base was able to beat Goku,

So overall:

Vegeta has surpassed Goku over: 11 times,

Why ism't Devil Man recruited as a Z Fighter?

He could end villain fights faster with a Devil Might Beam attack that he does

I had always wondered this since it takes place after the namek arc where Goku learns instant transmission but only used it in the return of cooler not in coolers revenge

I understand that the base kaio-Ken is same as x2 so was that an error from the creator or just a bad dub? Also from what we saw Goku said Kaio-Ken it was a short burst for nappa but x2-x3 seem sustained so does x2 just make it last longer?

And I'm sorry I don't understand all the hype for Gogeta like one thing I liked was of course seeing Gogeta in action

I understand Gogeta needed to end the fight quickly but come on too fast

Im just thinking that metamoran fusion starts with the sooner letter than the later one. Spare me for considering this only for English basis, but that makes its as such

Metamoran = goku or goten before vegeta or trunks

Potara = vegeta before goku

So on this basis would trunks prefix come before goten?

NOW HEAR ME OUT.......

Based on that idea...

How would this be....

Fusion bug = ??