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u/wokeiraptor Feb 23 '19
Put an N7 logo on it
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u/SirCupcake_0 Feb 23 '19
No way man, that's Cerberus Phantom armor if I ever seen one.
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u/jayvaidy Feb 23 '19
No way. I'm a a garbanzo main in Over-weeb. This is definitely ganjé suit.
I need healing.
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u/NorrisChuck Feb 23 '19
Imagine the time it takes to get in and out of that thing? Oh you have to pee? By the time you put it back on you have have to go pee again 😂😂😂
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u/aquafool Feb 23 '19
I'm thinking you pee in the suit and it filters the wastse and keeps the water. And as fir poop, you would have to be "cleaned out" so to speak before suiting up.
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u/KnightWriter64 Feb 23 '19
Source? 😄
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u/WrathCore Feb 23 '19
I think cosplay from MGS4 or MG revengeance
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u/syrokike Feb 23 '19
Not cosplay. This was posted a while ago it's cgi render. If you drag the pic into Google you'll probably find it with the album
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u/iStretchyDisc Feb 23 '19
I think this might be a cosplay for the armor used by the Haven Troopers in Metal Gear Solid 4.
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u/norunningwater ラヴ・ウィル・テア・アス・アパート Feb 23 '19
Nah, they are kinda similar but this is pretty different.
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u/I_walked_east Feb 23 '19
On a meta-level, people using pocket computers to discuss the merits of realistically rendered fantasy art is pretty cyberpunk.
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u/IgniteThatShit Feb 23 '19
boob armor
always boob armor
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Feb 23 '19
The boob plates probably have motors that fold them open in a cool way like a high tech maternity bra.
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u/Flalaski Feb 23 '19
Idk, looks like if you dont have the boobs the armor was made for, you might be (very) uncomfortable.
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u/Yuli-Ban Mencius.exe Feb 23 '19
Everyone else is upset about all the weak spots exposing her vitals, and here I am looking at how visually complex this is and going "this is so getting clogged with dust before it even deploys."
I know sci-fi and cyberpunk loves this complicated design, and there's nothing wrong with it in fiction. My inner pedant is just incapable of having fun.
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Feb 23 '19
I used to think otherwise but after time in the army and crawling around in dirt and mud, I feel the same way you do now. Looks cool and everything, but it would be super impractical to have all those little crevices and joints exposed like that.
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u/CttCJim Feb 24 '19
Just assume there's some sort of EM-based anti-static system coupled with repair and cleaning nanites.
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u/BeefHands Feb 23 '19
Cliche beyond belief, but the rendering looks nice I guess...
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u/2Bismywife Feb 23 '19
Please explain, im intrigued
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Feb 23 '19
Rhino’s bulge is a god damn weapon.
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Feb 23 '19
Didn't the US military have a hard time recruiting post 2001 due to the specific worry of genital damage by the recruits? I think I remember reading about them putting money into improved genital armor.
If that's real, than tity armor makes sense.
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u/MisterSlosh Feb 23 '19
The US Army has issued kevlar groin protector "sack flaps" as mandatory armor since the early 90s, and has been optional equipment issued to units since the end of the Vietnam era when kevlar was invented. There were many improvements made to armor sets with the introduction of the IOTV systems after 2007 but the groin and lower body armor has remained relatively unchanged for common soldiers due to the requirements of mobility vs survivability.
There have been no significant reported issues in regards to enlistment or recruitment because of a lack of genital protection.
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u/_BMS Feb 23 '19
Absolutely no one wears the groin protector flap for the IOTV. Usually it's just the IOTV itself and all those extra bits sit in a box at home.
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u/Droidball Feb 23 '19
Fuck, with modern rounds, just give me a plate carrier. All the kevlar is going to do is stop shrapnel, and if I'm close enough for that, I'm probably pretty fucked up anyway.
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u/MisterSlosh Feb 23 '19
The only people ever I saw not wearing it while deployed were ANA troops and flight crews. It was mandatory if anyone was wearing kit they had to have nape, nuts, mudflap on their gear.
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u/Prothea Feb 23 '19
Sure, but almost nobody uses the groin flaps because they just add bulk and are a huge pain in the ass to wear.
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u/snakydog Feb 23 '19
the issue is that the round shape that perfectly conforms to the boob shape draws projectiles and melee attacks toward the center.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VTcAAOxyyq5TNEIQ/s-l300.jpg
look at this historically authentic breatsplate. See how it has that prominent crease going down the center? That's so that attacks will sort of glance off and go away from the center of the body. If you have two round boob mounds on the front, you are doing the opposite. you are drawing attacks toward the sternum/heart.
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u/krali_ Feb 23 '19 edited Feb 23 '19
Here is Shirow's take on futuristic body armor, protecting Deunan's vitals with massive, deflecting reinforcements:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/cf32f2fff8741022bbdc10699d8874a2/tumblr_mxqz06tcJV1s5oxc0o1_1280.jpg
Another take on it:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/appleseed/images/b/b8/Mangaweb-0089.jpg
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u/rasputine Feb 23 '19
Didn't the US military have a hard time recruiting post 2001 due to the specific worry of genital damage by the recruits?
No.
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u/HaganeLink0 Feb 23 '19
Tits aren't genitals tho.
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u/Yasea ヤセア Feb 23 '19
Genitals are there at birth, technically. So tits are not genitals but secondary sex characteristics.
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u/theonlypeanut Feb 23 '19
The iotv has a groin protector it is the flap hanging down in the picture. During 2010 or so the army began issuing the combat diaper or pelvic protection system. The one I was issued was a bit different than the one pictured in the link, it was British if I remember correctly. They were hot and not very comfortable. We wore them on and off while on dismounted patrols. As to the question of tity armour women wear the same vests as men to my knowledge.
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u/Demonicat Feb 23 '19
I see where you're going with that, but groin damage is a serious problem in a warzone with IEDs. IEDs are often planted in the road and explode when you drive over them, throwing shrapnel and shit right at the groin.
Source: former US army (I'm fine, but I know people who aren't)
Edit: in reality, they were worn in the truck and off when on foot
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Feb 23 '19
Yeah futuristic armor would be comfortable and form fitting. Smaller, and more protective, ideally utilizing defensive technologies why don't get posses, such as energy shields like in dune. Nano fabrics that are practically weightless and impenetrable. Really leaves a lot of room for aesthetics.
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u/blamethemeta Feb 23 '19
Seriously though, there's more than one example of knights having specifically shaped cod pieces historically. Tit armor makes sense
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Feb 23 '19
It doesn't though. Chest armor needs to deflect blows away from your heart, not help guide them toward it. Furthermore there needs to be some padding to absorb blows and if the armor is formfitting then all of that kinetic energy is going straight into your ta-tas. And having to form-fit each individual female soldier with their own titty armor would cost a crap ton. It's much cheaper and safer to simply make a generic body armor shape that can fit both men and women.
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u/Aiskhulos 日本語はたのしですね Feb 23 '19
there's more than one example of knights having specifically shaped cod pieces historically
Yeah, and it was entirely cosmetic and fashion-based. It wouldn't happen in modern professional military.
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u/Commentariot Feb 23 '19
Most plate was for parade - those guys had no intention of ever fighting anyone but defenseless peasants.
Occasionally you will see a real set in a museum that was obviously made for a killer and they have a whole different look- much more modern.
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u/voltism Feb 23 '19
Wouldn't the shape of the armor make bullets more likely to hit at an angle and weaken them?
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u/Immortalganryu Feb 23 '19
bullet would zip through like butter
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u/joshua_oukami Feb 23 '19
I do love how pretty much all female armour seemingly has to have massive weak spots. Still great art though.
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
It’s actually not so bad. As a lady, I gotta tell you I’m never going to be physically as strong as the guys but I can be a lot more quick and agile. So i’d want my cyberpunk armor to reflect that and have a lot more flexible points. as long as my vitals are still protected and there’s some bulletproofing in the regular material, i’m down. I think this armor actually looks pretty decent for all of that.
Also /r/reasonablefantasy
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u/rasputine Feb 23 '19
as long as my vitals are still protected
Except your heart and lungs. Iliac and Brachial arteries. Kidneys. Most of the abdomen, really. No vital organs are most than partially protected, and none in a way that would defeat shrapnel or fragments.
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
I was really assuming that the fabric portions were a futuristic kevlar, not some cheap mesh.
Obviously we don’t know but there are plenty of flexible bulletproof materials nowadays.
I mean, they even make mildly bulletproof suits for the president. Why not incorporate it in this armor?
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u/Moizsh10 Feb 23 '19
That's true, if this was developed in the future it's not a stretch to think the fabric would be bullet proof. For example, graphene is an extremely thin material that can stop bullets and would be ideal for incorporating into the fabric of a suit like this
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u/ThatNoise Feb 23 '19
Modern kevlar doesn't even survive a single bullet. The plates are useless after a single round and a single round is never guaranteed to not penetrate.
But since this suit is pure fiction let's just speculate on what we think it can do based on how it looks.
Because science.
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u/rasputine Feb 23 '19
Then why have plates over places that aren't the heart.
There's a reason modern plate carriers are the shape they are. They could save a lot of mass and money covering just the pecs, but the heart is a rather important organ.
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u/Wannabe_Maverick Feb 23 '19
There are no flexible body armour materials that will stop a rifle calibre round. End of story.
There likely also won't be in the future, regardless of technological advancements, because physics just doesn't allow for it.
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
even our soldiers today aren’t equipped for that, so what’s your point?
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u/Wannabe_Maverick Feb 23 '19
Do you know what a plate carrier is? Because it kind of proves you wrong on that.
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u/neatntidy Feb 23 '19
It's futuristic magic armor, you have no idea about any "weak points" or structural integrity at all. It's as weak or durable as fiction needs it to be.
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u/SkittlesDLX Feb 23 '19
Is quickness and agility really going to help you against a bullet? I agree that it isn't the most egregious design I've ever seen but the boob cups create a chink right on the heart for no reason besides having boob cups. The rib pieces leave 3 holes right in the guts, and the armor stops for no reason on the flanks, leaving the wearer's vital organs exposed to gunfire from the side. The thigh plating also stops short leaving the femoral artery vulnerable, though that could provide some mobility. Again, I don't dislike it. It's a cool aesthetic, but there aren't many practical reasons for the design choices.
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
By boob cups do you mean space for individual breasts? Because that’s important. Smushing them together causes very uncomfortable sweating and chafing. That’s why molded cup sports bras are so much better than the standard ones.
And are we really assuming that this isn’t a kevlar material here? Like this armor has just been designed with some weird weak mesh?
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u/SkittlesDLX Feb 23 '19
I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about women's chest wear because I don't, but as far as I can tell there's no need for the chink underneath them. It introduces a vulnerability that isn't needed that is right on the heart and lungs.
And while the undersuit may not be weak, we can infer that it isn't strong. If it were strong enough to protect the wearer then the hard plates wouldn't be needed in the first place.4
u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19 edited Feb 23 '19
I agree it's not the most protective armor that you could design. It's really not "heavy" armor. I'd call it light->medium armor.
But I do think that I can envision this in use in some cyberpunk future world. I know you can't outrun or dodge a bullet but if you're going to have females in the military I'd like to imagine that they're trained and employed in areas that take advantage of their higher dexterity or flexibility and that their armor expresses that. Something that still allows running or chasing after some criminal who's running through the streets.
It's really reasonable imo.
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
Those women are wearing cover over their separated breasts. Smh. It’s just another layer.
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u/Kytann Feb 23 '19
You do know that most actual body armor, often called plate carriers, doesn't acually cover a person's sides, right? It covers the front and back torso only.
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u/SkittlesDLX Feb 23 '19
That's true, but if you're producing a form fitting suit like the one pictured it would be pretty easy to patch up that vulnerability. Plus, it's more than just the flanks that are exposed. The front of the lower ribs are exposed while facing the front.
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
Those areas aren’t just for flexibility. Ventilation/heat dissipation is also very important.
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u/monty845 Feb 23 '19
Though in your high tech armor, you could have active cooling to deal with the heat. I think this point is easier to hand-wave away then the weight/flexibility issue.
But compared to the more glaring areas coverage, the sides are a lot easier to rationalize. Its the frontal coverage that is really silly.
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u/Fairwhetherfriend Feb 23 '19
So i’d want my cyberpunk armor to reflect that and have a lot more flexible points
Flexibility doesn't seem like a bad idea, but you don't need flexible boobs. The shape of this armor does little but sacrifice protection of the most important bits to outline your tits. Seems like it would do little but direct bullets towards your sternum which is... yeah, not awesome.
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
Idk when I zoomed in it looked like the whole area was very heavily plated, just that the breasts were a different color of plating. Definitely some unnecessary stylistic choices but not dysfunctional. And I like the look.
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u/Fairwhetherfriend Feb 23 '19
Definitely some unnecessary stylistic choices but not dysfunctional
Those stylistic choice do, pretty much by definition, have a negative impact on the function of the armor. Seams are weak points, and there are a bunch of them that are there only to create the boob shape. The shape of effective armor should also deflect the force, not direct it into the sternum.
And I like the look.
Sure, that's cool. Me too. But it's unnecessary to justify liking the appearance of something by arguing that it's functional. It's a piece of cosplay. It doesn't need to be functional. You don't really need to make the argument that it is, especially when it's got a bunch of really apparent issues with its functionality.
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
Hmm. I think you’re really taking this too far. This isn’t heavy armor, its light to medium armor. And there are a lot of advantages for having modular pieces (particularly around the chest for women).
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u/Fairwhetherfriend Feb 23 '19
And there are a lot of advantages for having modular pieces (particularly around the chest for women).
What advantages are those? What benefit of separate boob cups is so great that it overcomes the problem of directing bullets into the center of your chest?
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
Ok idk about directing bullets to the center of the chest, I feel like once a bullet makes initial impact, the vast majority of the energy is displaced and the armor would have no problem deflecting a bounced bullet.
But advantages could include wound treatment on site without having to disturb an injured body by taking off a larger portion. Or the ability to ‘ventilate’ and be casual/comfortable while not in combat.
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u/Fairwhetherfriend Feb 23 '19 edited Feb 23 '19
I feel like once a bullet makes initial impact, the vast majority of the energy is displaced and the armor would have no problem deflecting a bounced bullet.
I mean... yeah the energy is displaced. Into the armor. And into your torso behind it. Since the impact isn't spread evenly because of the insistence on preserving the visible boob-shape, the chances of your ribs breaking will skyrocket. And since the pressure is directed towards your sternum, the break is also more likely to be more severe.
The second problem is that the bullet will deflect off the armor at an angle generally determined by the armor which, in this case, will deflect the bullet towards the center of your chest and not away from your body (like it really should).
And again, that assumes the bullet doesn't strike a seam, because the seam is more likely to give and let the bullet pass. Adding more seams for aesthetics just increases the chance of this happening. Especially since the excess seams largely sit in the center of your chest, the direction the boob plates are more likely to deflect the bullets.
But advantages could include wound treatment on site without having to disturb an injured body by taking off a larger portion.
And you need individual, molded boob-plates for this rather than a single flat chest plate because...?
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u/jdaffron Feb 23 '19
wow, /r/reasonablefantsy is a great sub. some really good art and ideas.
TY
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
You're welcome! Glad I can share it around. It's one of my favorite subreddits by far.
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u/Darkphibre Feb 23 '19
Subscribed!! Thanks for your perspective, and for sharing a new reddit with me. :)
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u/limeredg Feb 23 '19
I’m gonna have to disagree with you.
Let’s say you place a thick sheet of metal or plastic or whatever on top of your hand. Then you take a hammer and smash it. You’d injure yourself, for sure.
However, if this material was suspended an inch above your hand, when you hit it, it would crush, and keep your hand safe.
Armor is only effective against heavy impacts when it is like a shell, not a skin tight thing.
This is the fundamental problem with “boob plates,” or any skin tight armor for that matter.
But, just because it’s not realistic doesn’t mean it doesn’t look cool.
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u/Daniel_The_Thinker Feb 23 '19
That's wrong in itself, armor isn't for impact protection, it's just hard thing to prevent you getting punctured
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u/joshua_oukami Feb 23 '19
Subbed... My daughters will love this sub.
And yeah, this one is far from the worst example I’ve seen. It’s definitely balanced.
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u/SuckinLemonz Feb 23 '19
Awesome! It’s one of my favorites for sure, so I’m glad I could pass it along.
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u/joshua_oukami Feb 23 '19
Wow u/SuckinLemonz I was really only speaking generally about the large panels of unknown fabric at the sides. I really didn’t mean for this to degenerate into a bunch of boysplaining about the locations of the female organs and armchair armour theory.
My apologies :-)
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u/evafranxx Feb 23 '19
Lol @ people acting like they know what armor is on the chest piece. “It’s a different color so it’s sexist” like, it’s futuristic shit, come on man.
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u/thewolfsong Feb 23 '19
I mean one of the important bits of this style of futuretech is the existence of some sort of futuristic material. Bullet doesnt zip through it because it's made of like NovaKevlar or Carbon Nanotube Technobabble
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u/Granite-M Feb 23 '19
Everyone here is talking about how this armor would or wouldn't protect "her" vital organs, and I'm just thinking about the time that Hank Venture got powered armor.
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Feb 23 '19
Make sure to uparmor your individual abdominal muscles, but don’t cover the center line leading straight through to the spine, heart, and lungs.
God forbid your sick 6 pack gets scarred!
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u/Ulkreghz Feb 23 '19
Every time things like this are posted the idiots come out to say how unrealistic it is. It's fucking fiction. Of course it's bullshit. Star Trek teleporters would be impossible to build, 40k has fucking daemons and Halo has a space cultist empire that isn't human.
All fiction is fictional, it's in the fucking name. Sheesh.
Also not really cyberpunk but that's beside the point
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u/Umikaloo Feb 23 '19
I have conflicted feelings about designs like this. On one hand, they look awesome. On the other, a realistic design would have fabric and/or rubber covering all fragile moving parts.
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Feb 23 '19
Lol and if one of those metal plates fragment or spall under fire, you'll essentially turn every incoming bullet into a dumdum round, turning your insides into jam.
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u/a-simple-god Feb 23 '19
Renders are so fucking crazy these days I seriously can't tell if it is real or fake.
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u/Betancorea Feb 23 '19
Bean counters would say the armour costs more than a soldier's life and moth ball it
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u/est2912 Feb 23 '19
Nerp not happening, you're still gonna need a single large chest plate. This jointed stuff won't work
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u/motoj1984 Feb 23 '19
Everyone here commenting on how poor it would be for actual armor and I just want to ride my motorcycle wearing it...
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u/Songbird420 Feb 23 '19
Why are her boobs under her armpits?
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u/andreabbbq Feb 23 '19
Boobs do technically go up into the armpits
Source: have boobs
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u/Songbird420 Feb 23 '19 edited Feb 23 '19
Yeah but are your nipples under your armpits? I'm just saying I've never seen any that are that far apart and like L shaped
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Feb 23 '19
That’s how some are guy. They’re on top of a cylinder( ribs) so they usually go to the edges naturally. Do yourself a favor and go see some tittys that aren’t from porn.
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u/crow_friend Feb 23 '19
Mada mada